Eruditor:


You are not talking about his time in Bayern you were talking about Mou in Inter and Porto.

I have to play the same false equivalence with you.

No he did not win those at Bayern. He only won 7 other titles at Bayern which no other Bayern coach had done in 3 years before.

No popizaino said Mourinho time at Madrid was a failure and pep time at Bayern was a success which is garbage. That's what brought us here. You guys are the one shifting from that to six trophies,fergie treble,Inter Milan,Klopp etc

spillo1:

And now we are back to the basics. Thank God you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern when it comes to the Champions league. Mourinho meet a team that haven't gotten the quarter final in 6 successive seasons at Madrid while pep meet a Bayern than went to three finals in 4yrs and just won a treble. Only a daft mind will even smsay those 2 circumstances are equal. If pep is a success to you at Bayern then so is Mourinho at Madrid.

You are worse than Smalltihex and he is the poster child for pseudo-intellectualism.

The team did not get to SFs but won 4 UCLs after him. Success.

The team got to 3 finals before Pep. Then stopped smelling SFs after he went. Failure.

Does your head not pain you from all the pus in your brain?

spillo1:

No popizaino said Mourinho time at Madrid was a failure and pep time at Bayern was a success which is garbage. That's what brought us here. You guys are the one shifting from that to six trophies,fergie treble,Inter Milan,Klopp etc

Lol.

Let me tell you how you judge success.

Mou was successful at Inter because nobody after him could achieve what he achieved.

Now use that to judge Pep. Lol

popizaino:
Cc Eruditor


You should know when to drop an argument.

Someone claims Barcelona were the favourite team and the best team coming into 2008/2009 and you still haven't given up then I must commend you for your patience.


Someone claim tree trio of eto, Messi and Henry were more deadly in attack than c.ronaldo, Rooney Tevez and you can't call it a day?.

Drop this shit

They already shot themselves.

I even wanted to give the guy links but I realized bobo no sabi

I don rest my case unto the matter.

I reply because na banter. I don't take any of these people seriously.

Eruditor:


You are worse than Smalltihex and he is the poster child for pseudo-intellectualism.

The team did not get to SFs but won 4 UCLs after him. Success.

The team got to 3 finals before Pep. Then stopped smelling SFs after he went. Failure.

Does your head not pain you from all the pus in your brain?

Can't you see how daft you are . We are talking about Mourinho time at Madrid and comparing it to pep time at Bayern you are talking of what happened after when the metric should be what happened before they took over. You just confirmed what I knew ever since.

Eruditor:


You are worse than Smalltihex and he is the poster child for pseudo-intellectualism.

The team did not get to SFs but won 4 UCLs after him. Success.

The team got to 3 finals before Pep. Then stopped smelling SFs after he went. Failure.

Does your head not pain you from all the pus in your brain?

This ain't it chief. Madrid winning 4 ucl after Mourinho left does not help your argument. The conditions in which both came into both teams is light years apart.

spillo1:

Can't you see how daft you are . We are talking about Mourinho time at Madrid and comparing it to pep time at Bayern you are talking of what happened after when the metric should be what happened before they took over. You just confirmed what I knew ever since.

Lol.

So compare what other bayern coaches achieved after Pep. If we are talking about what happened before. I am using your own argument style.

It is funny that you are now arguing against yourself.

If I want to prove that Pep failed in Bayern..all I need to do is show that someone else came after him and did what he could not do.

Do you remember when you claimed Rijkaard already won the UCL so Pep winning it was not special? That was your argument. But you are now calling it daft.

Can you see why I called you daft off the bat?

Kimbeast:

This ain't it chief. Madrid winning 4 ucl after Mourinho left does not help your argument. The conditions in which both came into both teams is light years apart.

The conditions in which both came into what?

You argue maturely don't lose that reputation via your emotions.

spillo1:

You have jumped from Lagos to London and I am not coming with you. The Koko is before pep Bayern made 3 finals in 4 years under 2 different coaches. Can you tell us how many final they made with pep and after Pep ?

Can you tell us how many league titles they won in those years?

popizaino:



Can you tell us how many league titles they won in those years?

No no. That one is not relevant.

That is what they will say.

They want you to argue their own argument with them and not put forward your own.

Eruditor:


Lol.

Let me tell you how you judge success.

Mou was successful at Inter because nobody after him could achieve what he achieved.

Now use that to judge Pep. Lol

Pep was a failure at Bayern. Before him 3 Champions league finals in 4 years. With him and after 0 finals. Hence why everybody agrees pep destroyed Bayern with his rubbish style of play.

spillo1:

Pep was a failure at Bayern. Before him 3 Champions league finals in 4 years. With him and after 0 finals. Hence why everybody agrees pep destroyed Bayern with his rubbish style of play.

So every Bayern coach must be judged off the UCL?

LOL.

It means only Jupp was a success. Getting to the final is rubbish. Poch and Wenger have done it.

Also, Mou failed at Chelsea and RM.

SAF failed for 24 of his 26 years in United.

Kimbeast:

This ain't it chief. Madrid winning 4 ucl after Mourinho left does not help your argument. The conditions in which both came into both teams is light years apart.

Eruditor is daft. Madrid winning the Champions league in 2018 helped Mourinho in 2013 . Just imagine the rubbish.

spillo1:

Another eye sore

Before Pep 2 coaches took Bayern to 3 finals in 4 years. Regular customers in champions league finals. During pep and after Pep how many champions league final did they make? Pep ruined Bayern with his rubbish style of play
Be shameful for once and accept pep was a failure at Bayern.

With this fergie also failed with man united from within this time frame 2000 - 2008

spillo1:

Pep was a failure at Bayern. Before him 3 Champions league finals in 4 years. With him and after 0 finals. Hence why everybody agrees pep destroyed Bayern with his rubbish style of play.

Why did Ancelotti not even make the same semi that Pep made

popizaino:



Can you tell us how many league titles they won in those years?

When you called Mourinho a failure did you tell us how many league titles Madrid have won the previous seasons before he took over.

Eruditor:


So every Bayern coach must be judged off the UCL?

LOL.

It means only Jupp was a success. Getting to the final is rubbish. Poch and Wenger have done it.

Pep couldn't get to the rubbish at Bayern or at city. Try harder

spillo1:

Eruditor is daft. Madrid winning the Champions league in 2018 helped Mourinho in 2013 . Just imagine the rubbish.

I know you don't know what light years means in the context.

He is saying the way Pep came into Bayern is different than how Mou came into RM. Essentially claiming Mou getting to 3 SFs was a big deal because other coaches before were not getting there.

Can you see why I did not waste words? Because he is doing the before/after argument.

The very same thing you are refusing to let me do.

Mehn...catch up.

spillo1:

Pep couldn't get to the rubbish at Bayern or at city. Try harder

Yea. Neither did Mou.
But one still has a job and can still do it.

sleekdot:


Why did Ancelotti not even make the same semi that Pep made

Why did pep not a make a Champions league final Bayern were going to regularly before he came?

Eruditor:


Yea. Neither did Mou.
But one still has a job and can still do it.

If pep is a success at Bayern so was Mourinho at Madrid.

spillo1:

When you called Mourinho a failure did you tell us how many league titles Madrid have won the previous seasons before he took over.

Mou spent 3 years in RM.

He won one la liga. One copa del rey. One Kings cup.

In 3 years at Bayern

Pep won.....to be continued. Lol

spillo1:

If pep is a success at Bayern so was Mourinho at Madrid.

How can you not see this is a false equivalence?

You want to claim Mou succeeded because of what others did not achieve before him but won't allow the argument that he failed because others achieved more after him.

Yet want to claim Pep failed because others went to finals more (they did not achieve more) but don't want to accept that others after him did less than him.

Eruditor:


I know you don't know what light years means in the context.

He is saying the way Pep came into Bayern is different than how Mou came into RM. Essentially claiming Mou getting to 3 SFs was a big deal because other coaches before were not getting there.

Can you see why I did not waste words? Because he is doing the before/after argument.

The very same thing you are refusing to let me do.

Mehn...catch up.

. Before Pep Bayern 3 champions final in 4 years. After pep 0. Man damaged Bayern.

Before Mourinho...Madrid 6 successive round of 16 elimination..... With Mourinho 3 semi finals....after Mourinho 4 Champions league trophies.

Are you happy now .

popizaino:



With this fergie also failed with man united from within this time frame 2000 - 2008

So you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern?

spillo1:

No popizaino said Mourinho time at Madrid was a failure and pep time at Bayern was a success which is garbage. That's what brought us here. You guys are the one shifting from that to six trophies,fergie treble,Inter Milan,Klopp etc

Mourinho was a big failure at Madrid.

One league title with those superstars at their prime.

No ucl

Got knocked out by the borussia dortmund of this world.

Give pep guardiola that real Madrid team for any number of years and no team will lift any trophy real Madrid compete in. #factsonly

spillo1:

. Before Pep Bayern 3 champions final in 4 years. After pep 0. Man damaged Bayern.

Before Mourinho...Madrid 6 successive round of 16 elimination..... With Mourinho 3 semi finals....after Mourinho 4 Champions league trophies.

Are you happy now .

Lol.

With Pep 3 semi finals as well (consecutively) other managers never achieved.

So if Pep damaged Bayern (which is rubbish because you said anybody will win a league with them).

How come the same anybodies who can win league with Bayern are finding it hard to get to the same SFs he was getting to yet anybodies in RM were winning the UCL that Mou could not win?

spillo1:

So you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern?

If winning the UCL is the only criteria. Yes.

But interestingly, nobody else has done so.

Next, Mou failed too at RM but 2 other people won 4 after.

So failure pass failure. Agreed?

Eruditor:


How can you not see this is a false equivalence?

You want to claim Mou succeeded because of what others did not achieve before him but won't allow the argument that he failed because others achieved more after him.

Yet want to claim Pep failed because others went to finals more (they did not achieve more) but don't want to accept that others after him did less than him.

I am not claiming anything. If you believe pep was a success at Bayern then automatically Mourinho was a success at Madrid. What ever your opinion on pep time at Bayern is automatically what will be used to judge Mourinho time at Madrid.

popizaino:



Mourinho was a big failure at Madrid.

One league title with those superstars at their prime.

No ucl

Got knocked out by the borussia dortmund of this world.

Give pep guardiola that real Madrid team for any number of years and no team will lift any trophy real Madrid compete in. #factsonly

Yes Pep was a success at Bayern for getting demolished and raped by Spanish teams and winning a League jupp won with a 24point gap. Man won a 34game championship with 24fecking point gap.

Eruditor:


LOL. Awww.

He wasted Milli after signing him...and shooting expensive videos for him?

I did it for free is not putting anyone out there. Putting people out there is spending money on them so they can blow.

Defense to attack indeed.

You argue needlessly, go and ask Milli what he said about MI ruining his career.