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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 4:48pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:No popizaino said Mourinho time at Madrid was a failure and pep time at Bayern was a success which is garbage. That's what brought us here. You guys are the one shifting from that to six trophies,fergie treble,Inter Milan,Klopp etc |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 4:48pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: You are worse than Smalltihex and he is the poster child for pseudo-intellectualism. The team did not get to SFs but won 4 UCLs after him. Success. The team got to 3 finals before Pep. Then stopped smelling SFs after he went. Failure. Does your head not pain you from all the pus in your brain? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 4:49pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Lol. Let me tell you how you judge success. Mou was successful at Inter because nobody after him could achieve what he achieved. Now use that to judge Pep. Lol 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 4:51pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
popizaino: I even wanted to give the guy links but I realized bobo no sabi I don rest my case unto the matter. I reply because na banter. I don't take any of these people seriously. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 4:52pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Can't you see how daft you are . We are talking about Mourinho time at Madrid and comparing it to pep time at Bayern you are talking of what happened after when the metric should be what happened before they took over. You just confirmed what I knew ever since. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 4:57pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:This ain't it chief. Madrid winning 4 ucl after Mourinho left does not help your argument. The conditions in which both came into both teams is light years apart. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 4:57pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Lol. So compare what other bayern coaches achieved after Pep. If we are talking about what happened before. I am using your own argument style. It is funny that you are now arguing against yourself. If I want to prove that Pep failed in Bayern..all I need to do is show that someone else came after him and did what he could not do. Do you remember when you claimed Rijkaard already won the UCL so Pep winning it was not special? That was your argument. But you are now calling it daft. Can you see why I called you daft off the bat? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 4:58pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Kimbeast: The conditions in which both came into what? You argue maturely don't lose that reputation via your emotions. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:59pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Can you tell us how many league titles they won in those years? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:00pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
popizaino: No no. That one is not relevant. That is what they will say. They want you to argue their own argument with them and not put forward your own. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:01pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Pep was a failure at Bayern. Before him 3 Champions league finals in 4 years. With him and after 0 finals. Hence why everybody agrees pep destroyed Bayern with his rubbish style of play. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:03pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: So every Bayern coach must be judged off the UCL? LOL. It means only Jupp was a success. Getting to the final is rubbish. Poch and Wenger have done it. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:05pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Also, Mou failed at Chelsea and RM. SAF failed for 24 of his 26 years in United. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:05pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Kimbeast:Eruditor is daft. Madrid winning the Champions league in 2018 helped Mourinho in 2013 . Just imagine the rubbish. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:07pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: With this fergie also failed with man united from within this time frame 2000 - 2008 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sleekdot(m): 5:07pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Why did Ancelotti not even make the same semi that Pep made 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:08pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
popizaino:When you called Mourinho a failure did you tell us how many league titles Madrid have won the previous seasons before he took over. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:09pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Pep couldn't get to the rubbish at Bayern or at city. Try harder |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:09pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: I know you don't know what light years means in the context. He is saying the way Pep came into Bayern is different than how Mou came into RM. Essentially claiming Mou getting to 3 SFs was a big deal because other coaches before were not getting there. Can you see why I did not waste words? Because he is doing the before/after argument. The very same thing you are refusing to let me do. Mehn...catch up. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:10pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Yea. Neither did Mou. But one still has a job and can still do it. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:10pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
sleekdot:Why did pep not a make a Champions league final Bayern were going to regularly before he came? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:13pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:If pep is a success at Bayern so was Mourinho at Madrid. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:13pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Mou spent 3 years in RM. He won one la liga. One copa del rey. One Kings cup. In 3 years at Bayern Pep won.....to be continued. Lol 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:15pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: How can you not see this is a false equivalence? You want to claim Mou succeeded because of what others did not achieve before him but won't allow the argument that he failed because others achieved more after him. Yet want to claim Pep failed because others went to finals more (they did not achieve more) but don't want to accept that others after him did less than him. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:16pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:. Before Pep Bayern 3 champions final in 4 years. After pep 0. Man damaged Bayern. Before Mourinho...Madrid 6 successive round of 16 elimination..... With Mourinho 3 semi finals....after Mourinho 4 Champions league trophies. Are you happy now . |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:18pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
popizaino:So you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:19pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Mourinho was a big failure at Madrid. One league title with those superstars at their prime. No ucl Got knocked out by the borussia dortmund of this world. Give pep guardiola that real Madrid team for any number of years and no team will lift any trophy real Madrid compete in. #factsonly |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:19pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: Lol. With Pep 3 semi finals as well (consecutively) other managers never achieved. So if Pep damaged Bayern (which is rubbish because you said anybody will win a league with them). How come the same anybodies who can win league with Bayern are finding it hard to get to the same SFs he was getting to yet anybodies in RM were winning the UCL that Mou could not win? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:21pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: If winning the UCL is the only criteria. Yes. But interestingly, nobody else has done so. Next, Mou failed too at RM but 2 other people won 4 after. So failure pass failure. Agreed? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:22pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:I am not claiming anything. If you believe pep was a success at Bayern then automatically Mourinho was a success at Madrid. What ever your opinion on pep time at Bayern is automatically what will be used to judge Mourinho time at Madrid. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:27pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
popizaino:Yes Pep was a success at Bayern for getting demolished and raped by Spanish teams and winning a League jupp won with a 24point gap. Man won a 34game championship with 24fecking point gap. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:27pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor: You argue needlessly, go and ask Milli what he said about MI ruining his career. |
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