The zygote of a cockroach can only develop into a cockroach

The zygote of a tilapia fish can only develop into a tilapia fish

The zygote of a frog can only develop into a frog

The zygote of an alligator can only develop into an alligator

The zygote of an ostrich bird can only develop into an ostrich bird

The zygote of an elephant can only develop into an elephant.

The zygote of a gorilla can only develop into a gorilla.

This implies that zygote of a particular animal species must possess a particular set of encoded information representing the physical and behavioral characteristics of that very species of animal.
It is this very encoded information that scientists described as DNA.

This DNA template contains a lot of biological information encoding the physical and behavioral characteristics possessed by different animal species.
Hence, different animal species must have different DNA sequence.

Therefore, before the evolutionists can proclaim that changes in environmental conditions lead to emergence of new species by process of natural selection, they have to explain how these environmental changes can affect the DNA sequence.


If there is no any physical and behavioral changes occurring at the level of DNA, then natural selection has nothing to act upon . In other words, without changes in the DNA sequence, macroevolution of one species into another species by natural selection is impossible.


But what are the factors that can cause the DNA sequence to change ?
There are only THREE possible factors ;

1. It is either the DNA sequence changes by obeying a certain natural law

2. Or it changes by the process of pure chance (i:e it changes by random mutations)

3. Or it changes by following the guidance of a particular intelligence.

Now let us analyze each of these possible factors one after the other;

The nucleotide bases that make up the DNA sequence are four in number; adenine (A) , guanine (G), thymine(T) and cytosine(C). Therefore, if the different sequences of DNA found in all living species were determined by a certain natural law, then the nucleotide bases that make up the DNA sequence have to be recurring at regular intervals. This is because the arrangement of nucleotide bases would no longer be random but must be strictly guided by such natural law. Hence, one particular nucleotide must be followed by a known and specific nucleotide. That is to say, the DNA sequence should be something like this; AGTCAGTCAGTCAGTC...... where AGTC would be repetitive throughout the sequence.

In other words, if the arrangement in the DNA sequence obey a certain natural law, then the sequence should consist of nucleotide bases reappearing at regular intervals.

However, this is not the case: the nucleotide bases that form the DNA sequence in all extant species do not reappear at regular intervals. Their arrangement are purely random and not predictable.

This implies that there is no any natural law guiding the arrangement of nucleotide bases that make up the DNA sequence of all living species.

In fact, if there is a certain natural law guiding the arrangement of the FOUR nucleotide bases that make up the DNA sequence, then different arrangements found in the nucleotide triplets (i:e the codons) that encode TWENTY different amino acids present in most proteins would not be observed.

Now, if different arrangements of nucleotide bases that make up the different DNA sequence in all living species were not generated by any natural law, then were the arrangements came to exist by process of chance ?

If the different sequences of DNA (that determine the physical and behavioral characteristics found in most animal species) came to exist by the process of chance i:e caused by random mutations, then PERFECT CORRELATION between the male and female reproductive systems found in most animal species would not be observed.


Take a look at six classes of animals listed below ;
# Invertebrates (like worms, snails and insects)
# Pisces ( like fishes and other marine organisms)
# Amphibians ( like frogs and toads)
# Reptiles (like lizards, snakes, crocodiles and alligators)
# Birds (like eagles, ducks and chickens)
# Mammals ( like whale, goat, dogs, elephants, horse and gorilla)

All these animals have their corresponding males and females whose their COURTSHIP BEHAVIOR and REPRODUCTIVE STRUCTURES are complex but perfectly matched with each other


For example, while male ducks have corkscrew-shaped phalluses, female ducks have anti-corkscrew-shaped vaginal tracts.
Again, while male blue whale has the largest phallus throughout the animal kingdom, female blue whale has the largest vaginal tract.

If different sets of reproductive structures found in all these animals were created by a process of chance (i:e by random mutations), then there is no way for different set of male and female reproductive structures to be COMPATIBLE with each other in terms of ; i. SHAPE, ii. SIZE and iii. FUNCTION.

Are we to believe to that as the phallus of a male duck gradually change to become corkscrew in shape by a process of chance, then vaginal tract of a female duck also gradually change in a CORRESPONDING manner to become anti-corkscrew in shape by another process of chance ?

Again, are we to believe that as the phallus of a male blue whale increases in size gradually and gradually by a process of chance , the vaginal tract of the female blue whale also increases in size gradually and gradually in a CORRESPONDING manner by another process of chance ?

Can two independent processes of chance (random mutations) work toward the same goal over millions of years ?


Therefore, if the differences in the DNA sequence (that determine the physical and behavioral characteristics of different animal species) were neither generated by any natural law nor by any process of chance (random mutations), then such differences have to follow the guidance of a particular intelligence.

Of course, it is only intelligence that can make different sets of two complex entities to be compatible with each other in terms of shape, size and function.

If nobody can deny that different sets of "lock and key" installed in many of our domestic doors were designed by intelligence, then nobody should deny that different sets of male and females reproductive structures that exist in the world of animals ( which is analogous to different sets of lock and key ) were also designed by intelligence.

Since intelligence cannot be the owner of itself, the owner of this very intelligence must actually exist even if we are yet to physically observe his existence.

Of course, the fact that we are yet to see the owner of intelligence directing the movement of a toy car through a remote control should never prompt us to deny his existence !

it is only a fool that says in his heart: there is no God

OluwasureGig:
it is only a fool that says in his heart: there is no God

Same way fools say in their heart.... no one created God

Isinweke:


Same way fools say in their heart.... no one created God

But SOMETHING must be ETERNAL (i:e always exist without being created by anyone).
Here is the reason; if there is absolutely 'NOTHING' in the long past, then there is no way we can have 'SOMETHING' at this present time because something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing.
This simply shows that something must be eternal i:e always exist and infinitely old without being created by anyone.

Please @OP leave atheists alone. I'm tired of having them insulting my God. Opening a thread about them is an invitation to more insults. The word of God is everywhere, let those who have ears, let them hear. You can teach a word of God but please don't mention them. If they will be saved, it is up to them. Salvation is not by force

Abdulgaffar22:


But SOMETHING must be ETERNAL (i:e always exist without being created by anyone).
Here is the reason; if there is absolutely 'NOTHING' in the long past, then there is no way we can have 'SOMETHING' at this present time because something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing.
This simply shows that something must be eternal i:e always exist and infinitely old without being created by anyone.

That's Nature.

peggywebbs:
Please @OP leave atheists alone. I'm tired of having them insulting my God. Opening a thread about them is an invitation to more insults. The word of God is everywhere, let those who have ears, let them hear. You can teach a word of God but please don't mention them. If they will be saved, it is up to them. Salvation is not by force

We're talking of Science, not one man and his begotten son

I wasn't talking to you. Are you @ Abdulgaffar22. I don't care about what you talk about.

Isinweke:


We're talking of Science, not one man and his begotten son

peggywebbs:
Please @OP leave atheists alone. I'm tired of having them insulting my God. Opening a thread about them is an invitation to more insults. The word of God is everywhere, let those who have ears, let them hear. You can teach a word of God but please don't mention them. If they will be saved, it is up to them. Salvation is not by force

Thanks for the advice.
May God guide everyone of us to His truth.

They are the Zygote of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Isinweke:


That's Nature.

Nature ? Did you really understand what I posted up there ?

Pls explain how nature can affect the DNA sequence

No intellectual will stick to an idea that lacks substance!

If you make a convincing presentation before them, sincere and honest hearted ones amongst them will see reasons with you.

One thing is certain! "Atheists do not feel intimidated by the threat of your HELL FIRE or punishment after death", because they knew perfectly well that if not for the fear of this so called hellfire, most religionists will live, struggle to survive, accumulate the material possessions they're able to in life and die as atheists!

Abdulgaffar22:


But SOMETHING must be ETERNAL (i:e always exist without being created by anyone).
Here is the reason; if there is absolutely 'NOTHING' in the long past, then there is no way we can have 'SOMETHING' at this present time because something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing.
This simply shows that something must be eternal i:e always exist and infinitely old without being created by anyone.

So the SOMETHING that is always "eternal" actually defeated your logic of "something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing"
or
Many things are actually eternal and they all have their roles. Like Greek mythology

TVSA:

So the SOMETHING that is always "eternal" actually defeated your logic of "something can NEVER come out from absolutely nothing"

Honestly, it is very difficult to grasp the message you're trying to pass across.

Well, let me just answer you the way I understood your points

My statement which says "something is always eternal" and my statement which says "something can never come out from absolutely nothing" do not defeat each other because it is the something which is always eternal that brought the OTHER things into existence. Therefore, other things were not caused to exist by absolutely nothing. Other things were rather caused to exist by that very something that is always eternal.

TVSA:


or
Many things are actually eternal and they all have their roles. Like Greek mythology

Science has proved that many things were brought into existence 13.8 billion years ago during the period of big bang explosion. Therefore, Greek mythology failed completely because many things are not eternal. They began to exist 13.8 billion years ago

Abdulgaffar22:



Honestly, it is very difficult to grasp the message you're trying to pass across.

Well, let me just answer you the way I understood your points

My statement which says "something is always eternal" and my statement which says "something can never come out from absolutely nothing" do not defeat each other because it is the something which is always eternal that brought the OTHER things into existence. Therefore, other things were not caused to exist by absolutely nothing. Other things were rather caused to exist by that very something that is always eternal.

And many things could've been eternal working together. Why your insistence on only "SOMETHING" being eternal?

Abdulgaffar22:


Science has proved that many things were brought into existence 13.8 billion years ago during the period of big bang explosion. Therefore, Greek mythology failed completely because many things are not eternal. They began to exist 13.8 billion years ago

how did big bang preclude many things being eternal? Where did eternity of an entity come in the big bang? Explicate how big bang support one eternal entity.

By the way, you're the one confusing me. You believe big bang now, that the world started 13.8 billion years ago? or you just want to use it to prove your point?

TVSA:


And many things could've been eternal working together. Why your insistence on only "SOMETHING" being eternal?





how did big bang preclude many things being eternal? Where did eternity of an entity come in the big bang? Explicate how big bang support one eternal entity.

By the way, you're the one confusing me. You believe big bang now, that the world started 13.8 billion years ago? or you just want to use it to prove your point?

Many things like what are eternal ?

If many things are eternal, then they have to retain their ORIGINAL characteristics. But nothing in the universe retain its original characteristics. Everything in the universe keeps changing. Even the
universe itself is expanding and the fundamental particles will undergo DECAY with the passage of time. This implies that many things are not eternal but they were brought into existence when a gravitational singularity suddenly undergo big bang explosion 13.8 billion years ago.

Abdulgaffar22:


Many things like what are eternal ?

If many things are eternal, then they have to retain their ORIGINAL characteristics. But nothing in the universe retain its original characteristics. Everything in the universe keeps changing. Even the
universe itself is expanding and the fundamental particles will undergo DECAY with the passage of time. This implies that many things are not eternal but they were brought into existence when a gravitational singularity suddenly undergo big bang explosion 13.8 billion years ago.

many gods mat have been eternal. That's what I mean