The truth is this the lady in question Mrs whatever wouldn't have said anything about been raped if this man was on the street selling Gala sausage or Taxi driver so she saw him rich and also an avenue to rip him down and tarnish his image as a senior pastor in COZA but she's a failure.

Safarigirl or whatever u call yasef...be guided oh, u think u can just come online and spill thrash abi..nonsense and bbn

wman:
I'm anti-rape and I support Busola Dakolo. But I don't like the way this thing has turned to a social media circus. Everyone is just jumping on it to trend.


A lot of people just jumped into this stuff because their favourite celebrities and social media influencers are involved. Not because they care so much about rape or Busola Dakolo.

What is right is right even if no one is doing it. What is wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it. Stand out from the crowd and pursue what you believe in - you don't need a herd to endorse your convictions because after the trend and noise dies, one thing will stand out, your consistency.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4aEfh46yFs

queenitee:
I'm telling you, people saying why don't they speak up then, I pray you never experience it. Rape most times is from people you love so much, people you trust so much. It would be hard for you to believe they actually did that to you, so tell me how the he.ll do you tell, explain or narrate to others what you find so difficult to believe yourself, what seems like a dream to you, what feels, I can't explain the feeling, all I know is even if it takes 50 years for you to be able to stand up to your victim, it is still rape and that 50 years is your now, it's the right time.

And who would people say a 17 years old is old enough or nonsense? So far she never said yes to the sex, so far she never gave her consent, even if she's 50 years old, it's still rape.

And the fact that she waited for him to bring a drink and share it with her or something, you people don't know the emotional and mental trauma that follows rape, you don't. And that it happened many times, you still don't know, you don't know how a rapist is capable of toying with your emotions, making you feel no good, spoiling your self esteem, you just don't know.

And that she could have told a family member, you don't know how a rapist will manipulate you to thinking telling your family member will not belive and hate you and yes that's true. Most parents are insensitive, they really are. If not, a kid that's always cheerful on seeing an individual or always wanting to be with the person suddenly becomes isolated from the individual and never wants to be around the individual, wants to be alone instead of being with the individual and you dismiss it as a childish behaviour or childish rebel, you simply don't know what's up, most times it's not

And saying she's married and so she should keep quiet, you don't know how the psychological effect of the rape is affecting her marriage, you don't know how it's affecting relationships, you don't know. Forget the smiles and all, you really don't know.

You don't know how it hurts seeing your rapist move on with his/her life and living fine while you carry the hurt and trauma all along, while they are the reason why certain things are never the same in your life, You don't know.

Yes, you don't know the everlasting effect rape has on an individual psychologically. It's true that if you've never been in someone's shoe, never say you know where it hurts, because you don't and you can never do.

There are just some hurts we don't speak about, some hurts that's difficult to speak about and if someone eventually find the courage to speak about it, we just have to encourage them because they will never go away until we have spoken about it.

I am glad the mods didn't rush this topic to the FP because the noisemakers will drown the message.

This post of yours is reminiscent of the Catholic Priests Abuse. The pain hardly goes away and the victims want to voice out. What it shows is how powerful people in positions of authority gang up to perpetuate evil. In Nigeria, what we fail to do is to tackle the issue by thinking it's about our faith, our brothers or sisters or some family members. We want to defend evil or sweep it under the carpet. It shows that a lot of people don't know the effects of something until they experience it.
This issue is not limited to Nigeria. It is all over the world and takes place in different ways and institutions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6DPc37L4q0

Seun, lalasticlala Nairaland is biting more than it can chew, why bring such a topic that supports defamation of fatoyinbo for a case that has not been sorted in the court of law, if fatoyinbo Sues Nairaland what would you people put up in defence.

Nairaland is suppose to be a public forum and not a home of sentiments, it's just too degrading to see this.

This rape saga again?

Thought we moved past it since na!


Just chill y'all,the courts would soon decide and one way or another,justice will be served!

abbey621:
The post is not objective at all and is clearly one sided. Even police and any lawyer worth their stuff would tell you to name your accuser early and preserve as much ecvidence as possible. The questions raised were mostly useful and very damaging once it gets to court. Remember it's not what actually happened but what you can prove happened! If the pastor was a nobody, would she be so high pressed to come out after all these years? I mean she said he did it twice and she even ended up going to work for him at his home with his wife and their newborn child, does this not sound fishy to anyone? In this age of social media it is easy to take sides and be very sentimental, this is why she knew her best bet was to put it out there and let the ever ready public tear him to pieces. Guilty or not, we'll never know. Justice has already been served!

Has it really?

I.don't think so. For millions of Nigerians who believed the girl,there are equally millions who believed the pastor. Or his church would be empty by now.

Only time will tell who is lying or not.

And TIME OUT IS OVER!!!

safarigirl, public opinion isnt the court of law, public opinion functions by emotions, so your point on public opinion is invalid

if a person commit crimes, the first point of destination is the police station not social media, as i have said social media runs by emotions and emotions cant decide who is guilty and who is not.

Ganduje went through the public opinion and nothing happened, public opinion might wants something but the court of law is the decider for all legal decisions

My question to you

Do you think, it is right for rape victims to demand money from their perpetrators?

why is money now the goal of all rape victims?

Some years ago, a colleagues daughter innocently told him that her uncles ( a young in law staying with them) had put his hand in her vagina while bathing her.

That was the end of the boys stay in the house. My guy and his wife did not even for a moment think the girl was lying, they did not for a moment try to defend or excuse their blood relations behavior, and they had a relationship with their child that meant the child told them immediately. It could easily have gone a different way, and this uncle would have been molesting and raping the daughter for years.

It is very important that your children are able to tell you anything that happens

There is a lot of similarity between unilags Boniface and our coza pastor. If there was no video, and that lady who had been with him came out to make allegations, the same things said about Busola Dakolo would have been said about the girl. The man was also a celebrated pillar of society who smoothly transited and mixed fatherly pastor mode with lewd lecher mode. If the bbc had hired a porn star, or if it had been an expose by some tabloidish reality tv show, we may have seen events lead to actual rape.

There’s a family I know that has a son who we all knew back in school to be a prolific rapist. It was an open secret. This guy was a madical student from a very wealthy family. It was also a paradox of sorts, and instructive in its own right. This guy had five siblings we knew. Medical and law students. One sister was hit party chick, one was abaya down to the socks. One bro was fine boy, the other was Alfa with Shokoto anabi. The guy himself Dey always form Alfa, greeting people with asalam alaikum. He caught a case once, where the victim, a poly student had a psychiatric incident after he raped and threatened her, and a friends dad got involved in the investigation. Nothing came out of his arrest, and I remember meeting the guys family and his dad talking about the time a girl framed his son.

Unfortunately for this guy, rape became a very dangerous escalating habit for him, and he moved to gang rape with photo souvenir and weird fetishes. He and a friend took a police chiefs daughter on a date, gang raped her, shaved her pubic hair, took photos, threatened her. The girl went back home and that is how it might have ended if her strong willed friend did not intervene. The guy was arrested again and this time, there was too much evidence. His mum has a stroke from the shame. His dad was already dead at this time.

But today, the guy is married, ‘born again’ a free man and the last time I checked, successful. He may even be running for some political post. If someone else were to accuse him today, his wife would probably also come out to defend him, even though it is impossible she does not know some of his history, as all this happened in unilorin and we were all students there.

ornicus:
Some years ago, a colleagues daughter innocently told him that her uncles ( a young in law staying with them) had put his hand in her vagina while bathing her.

That was the end of the boys stay in the house. My guy and his wife did not even for a moment think the girl was lying, they did not for a moment try to defend or excuse their blood relations behavior, and they had a relationship with their child that meant the child told them immediately. It could easily have gone a different way, and this uncle would have been molesting and raping the daughter for years.

It is very important that your children are able to tell you anything that happens

There is a lot of similarity between unilags Boniface and our coza pastor. If there was no video, and that lady who had been with him came out to make allegations, the same things said about Busola Dakolo would have been said about the girl. The man was also a celebrated pillar of society who smoothly transited and mixed fatherly pastor mode with lewd lecher mode. If the bbc had hired a porn star, or if it had been an expose by some tabloidish reality tv show, we may have seen events lead to actual rape.

There’s a family I know that has a son who we all knew back in school to be a prolific rapist. It was an open secret. This guy was a madical student from a very wealthy family. It was also a paradox of sorts, and instructive in its own right. This guy had five siblings we knew. Medical and law students. One sister was hit party chick, one was abaya down to the socks. One bro was fine boy, the other was Alfa with Shokoto anabi. The guy himself Dey always form Alfa, greeting people with asalam alaikum. He caught a case once, where the victim, a poly student had a psychiatric incident after he raped and threatened her, and a friends dad got involved in the investigation. Nothing came out of his arrest, and I remember meeting the guys family and his dad talking about the time a girl framed his son.

Unfortunately for this guy, rape became a very dangerous escalating habit for him, and he moved to gang rape with photo souvenir and weird fetishes. He and a friend took a police chiefs daughter on a date, gang raped her, shaved her pubic hair, took photos, threatened her. The girl went back home and that is how it might have ended if her strong willed friend did not intervene. The guy was arrested again and this time, there was too much evidence. His mum has a stroke from the shame. His dad was already dead at this time.

But today, the guy is married, ‘born again’ a free man and the last time I checked, successful. He may even be running for some political post. If someone else were to accuse him today, his wife would probably also come out to defend him, even though it is impossible she does not know some of his history, as all this happened in unilorin and we were all students there.

This doesn't still help the busola-fatoyinbo's case, we need facts and evidences not silly stories.

[quote author=zeuss post=79806185]Kai! Something just didn't make sense to me there.
I have no intention of making anyone feel bad here but I think there was no rape in the whole saga. There was rather a silent attraction that gave birth to mutual conjugality.
Why be around a man for that long if you never liked him?
Why keep mute on him raping you while your sister was in the house if you never liked it?
Why didn't you shout and raise alarm when he was leaving, after the purported rape if you never liked it?
Why didn't you share the first and second rape issue immediately to your beloved family if you never liked it?
Why still go to his church if you never liked it?
Why go stay at his house to help his wife and even sought to sleep in their master bedroom if you never liked it?
Why follow him in his car to drop you if you never liked it?
Why didn't you struggle when he took the u-turn to give you the supposed second rape if you never liked it?
Why didn't you tell anyone again or even the police if you never liked it?
After the third day, when he came to find out why you didn't go to church, why didn't you refuse going to the same church when he asked you to if you never liked it?
Why didn't you show any sign of what he did to anyone? Why conceal the whole issue if you never liked it?
Are you totally innocent
Why didn't you tell us if you ever seduced him?
Why didn't you tell us if you fell for his looks?
Why did you do what you did and are still doing what you're doing to him now? Is it fair?
So because someone accused you of sleeping with pastors in the past and is accusing you of being unfaithful in your marriage now you want to pick on the pastor who was in your past just to cover up on the accusation meted on you?
Who knows if you probably seduced him to push him to that extent?
What looks did you give him when he entered your house with your nighty on? Why didn't you rush to change? Why allow him to come in when you were probably Unclad in a transparent gown?
Please,
Pastors are humans. Let's be fair on them and their weaknesses as human as they are.
Don't go seducing a man with your talent and beauty and expect him to act as brother Paul in the Bible when you refused to leave him and his territory.
A man will chase you and get what he wants when he knows you're interested in him.
We're not fools please ����
The woman should just admit that she was wrong as much as she claims that he was wrong[/quo

zeuss:
Kai! Something just didn't make sense to me there.
I have no intention of making anyone feel bad here but I think there was no rape in the whole saga. There was rather a silent attraction that gave birth to mutual conjugality.
Why be around a man for that long if you never liked him?
Why keep mute on him raping you while your sister was in the house if you never liked it?
Why didn't you shout and raise alarm when he was leaving, after the purported rape if you never liked it?
Why didn't you share the first and second rape issue immediately to your beloved family if you never liked it?
Why still go to his church if you never liked it?
Why go stay at his house to help his wife and even sought to sleep in their master bedroom if you never liked it?
Why follow him in his car to drop you if you never liked it?
Why didn't you struggle when he took the u-turn to give you the supposed second rape if you never liked it?
Why didn't you tell anyone again or even the police if you never liked it?
After the third day, when he came to find out why you didn't go to church, why didn't you refuse going to the same church when he asked you to if you never liked it?
Why didn't you show any sign of what he did to anyone? Why conceal the whole issue if you never liked it?
Are you totally innocent
Why didn't you tell us if you ever seduced him?
Why didn't you tell us if you fell for his looks?
Why did you do what you did and are still doing what you're doing to him now? Is it fair?
So because someone accused you of sleeping with pastors in the past and is accusing you of being unfaithful in your marriage now you want to pick on the pastor who was in your past just to cover up on the accusation meted on you?
Who knows if you probably seduced him to push him to that extent?
What looks did you give him when he entered your house with your nighty on? Why didn't you rush to change? Why allow him to come in when you were probably Unclad in a transparent gown?
Please,
Pastors are humans. Let's be fair on them and their weaknesses as human as they are.
Don't go seducing a man with your talent and beauty and expect him to act as brother Paul in the Bible when you refused to leave him and his territory.
A man will chase you and get what he wants when he knows you're interested in him.
We're not fools please ����
The woman should just admit that she was wrong as much as she claims that he was wrong

You said you are a lawyer, seriously is this the way a lawyer thinks?

BigJoe19:
This doesn't still help the busola-fatoyinbo's case, we need facts and evidences not silly examples.

there are facts,

on September 20, 2019, Fatoyinbo lawyer told the court to dimiss the case on the ground of statute-barred

why is he asking to dismiss the case on statute barred, if nothing happened?

lilwetdick:


there are facts,

on September 20, 2019, Fatoyinbo lawyer told the court to dimiss the case on the ground of statute-barred

why is he asking to dismiss the case on statute barred, if nothing happened?

Ok post evidence of him trying to dismiss the case. I am waiting.

BigJoe19:
Ok post evidence of him trying to dismiss the case. I am waiting.

https://punchng.com/dismiss-busola-dakolos-rape-suit-against-me-fatoyinbo-tells-court/

statute-barred: right that can no longer be the subject of a legal action because the time limit imposed by the limitations act has been exceeded.

lilwetdick:


https://punchng.com/dismiss-busola-dakolos-rape-suit-against-me-fatoyinbo-tells-court/

statute-barred: right that can no longer be the subject of a legal action because the time limit imposed by the limitations act has been exceeded.

OK, Still doesn't give fact that he raped her.

BigJoe19:
OK, Still doesn't give fact that he raped her.

so explain to me why his lawyer is filing statute-barred if nothing happened?

lilwetdick:
safarigirl, public opinion isnt the court of law, public opinion functions by emotions, so your point on public opinion is invalid

if a person commit crimes, the first point of destination is the police station not social media, as i have said social media runs by emotions and emotions cant decide who is guilty and who is not.

Ganduje went through the public opinion and nothing happened, public opinion might wants something but the court of law is the decider for all legal decisions

My question to you

Do you think, it is right for rape victims to demand money from their perpetrators?

In Nigeria, especially for the poor, there is no justice. The reason why people go to social media is because it is often an effective ( also easy to abuse) tool to get some sort of justice. You see people with greviances was against companies on social media everyday. They are there because that is the only way they can be heard. The story will get killed if they follow regular channels. That is why DSTV is on fp today.

Unless you are wealthy, very few people will involve our police. Our police are predatory, exploitative bastards whose only goal is to make money off any crime reported to them. Every time I have had an issue, that requires interaction with police, I have come out feeling sick. Years ago I was in a very bad accident outside Lagos. I could have died. This was ore, and the police stand on the matter was I should settle them for police report. That was all they were interested in.

Now imagine police, who are often directly implicated in rapes themselves, in a rape case. Is it not our police that were being used to intimidate the dakolos?

I live in FESTAC, and a lot of business men here engage police for debt recovery. The moment you are paying a policeman well for some sort of service, you can use him to do anything

The case of Ganduje is not applicable for a simple reason. Even if he was caught on camera committing rape, he is a governor in Nigeria and he has immunity through his term. The only way ganduje could be officially investigated at this time is if he was impeached. That is what obj did to fayose during his first term during that chicken farm scam. He had him impeached. That was when fayose went into hiding until gej resurrected his political career

As to rape victims demanding money from their rapists, if you cause me trauma I can legally take you to court. The reason why you see billion naira defemation lawsuits is because they cause emotional trauma to the victim, they can also cause other damages. If you were falsely and publicly accused of rape, it would affect your reputation , your career, business opportunities etc. if you were proven innocent, and your accuser had wealth, you could sue for some form of restitution. So the same applies to rape victims. In fact , a lot of us politicians with issues like this regularly pay hush money to victims from their past. There is a former republican us speaker who had raped a boy during his time as a school coach in the 70s/80s who spent his entire term making settlement payments to keep it out of the news.

lilwetdick:


so explain to me why his lawyer is filing statute-barred if nothing happened?

I am not saying he is guilty or not, who knows his lawyer may just be applying the law to save them of legal expenses.

BigJoe19:
I am not saying he is guilty or not, who knows his lawyer may just be applying the law to save them of legal expenses.

so a lawyer will just apply statute-barred for a man like fatonyinbo to save legal expenses are you serious, dont you know that filing statute barred is like admitting that an event occurred but the court of law shouldnt take it up because the victim didnt file the case within a certain period.

the lawyer is filing that because there are evidence and witness

I wish I could like this post twice. You are making the world a better place my dear.

Is Busola now a Bishop?!!

luminouz:

Has it really?

I.don't think so. For millions of Nigerians who believed the girl,there are equally millions who believed the pastor. Or his church would be empty by now.

Only time will tell who is lying or not.

And TIME OUT IS OVER!!!

Trust me the damage is not to be underestimated.

ornicus:


In Nigeria, especially for the poor, there is no justice. The reason why people go to social media is because it is often an effective ( also easy to abuse) tool to get some sort of justice. You see people with greviances was against companies on social media everyday. They are there because that is the only way they can be heard. The story will get killed if they follow regular channels. That is why DSTV is on fp today.

Unless you are wealthy, very few people will involve our police. Our police are predatory, exploitative bastards whose only goal is to make money off any crime reported to them. Every time I have had an issue, that requires interaction with police, I have come out feeling sick. Years ago I was in a very bad accident outside Lagos. I could have died. This was ore, and the police stand on the matter was I should settle them for police report. That was all they were interested in.

Now imagine police, who are often directly implicated in rapes themselves, in a rape case. Is it not our police that were being used to intimidate the dakolos?

I live in FESTAC, and a lot of business men here engage police for debt recovery. The moment you are paying a policeman well for some sort of service, you can use him to do anything

The case of Ganduje is not applicable for a simple reason. Even if he was caught on camera committing rape, he is a governor in Nigeria and he has immunity through his term. The only way ganduje could be officially investigated at this time is if he was impeached. That is what obj did to fayose during his first term during that chicken farm scam. He had him impeached. That was when fayose went into hiding until gej resurrected his political career

As to rape victims demanding money from their rapists, if you cause me trauma I can legally take you to court. The reason why you see billion naira defemation lawsuits is because they cause emotional trauma to the victim, they can also cause other damages. If you were falsely and publicly accused of rape, it would affect your reputation , your career, business opportunities etc. if you were proven innocent, and your accuser had wealth, you could sue for some form of restitution. So the same applies to rape victims. In fact , a lot of us politicians with issues like this regularly pay hush money to victims from their past. There is a former republican us speaker who had raped a boy during his time as a school coach in the 70s/80s who spent his entire term making settlement payments to keep it out of the news.

your last paragraph is troubling, so basically you are trying to say that if a victim was raped, once the perpetrator pays the amount of money she wants, all her rape injuries and trauma is gone??

i thought the main reason rape victims call out their perpetrators is because they want justice and justice means going to jail not financial payment

i have noticed the trend, it is the rich guy that most rape victims want money from not the poor guys? why is that?

Decent write-up. Nigerians need total re-education about rape including statutory rape

lilwetdick:


so a lawyer will just apply statute-barred for a man like fatonyinbo to save legal expenses are you serious, dont you know that filing statute barred is like admitting that an event occurred but the court of law shouldnt take it up because the victim didnt file the case within a certain period.

the lawyer is filing that because there are evidence and witness

So if there is evidence, what is budola waiting for?

lilwetdick:


your last paragraph is troubling, so basically you are trying to say that if a victim was raped, once the perpetrator pays the amount of money she wants, all her rape injuries and trauma is gone??

i thought the main reason rape victims call out their perpetrators is because they want justice and justice means going to jail not financial payment

why do you think the family of ojs simpsons wife went after him in a civil suit after he was acquitted? you think going to prison is the only means of seeking justice?

you also forget that the US has a statute of limitations on rape. 14 years if i recall.

if pastor fatoyinbo was sacked and forced to dole out his entire earnings and live at a significantly reduced standard for the rest of his life, is that not justice?

you think civil suits are all about financial gratification of the victim? why do you think there is the word punitive damages? so you can hit the man where it hurts - in his wallet.

i have noticed the trend, it is the rich guy that most rape victims want money from not the poor guys? why is that?

how many rape victims do you know? how many cases are you actually aware of? outside of this coza case, how many rape cases are the public space?

also, that is life. if you become rich and famous, your sins from the past will come after you.

BigJoe19:
So if there is evidence, then what is busola and timi waiting for.

wating for what, arent you seeing that the case is in court already. it simply means they filed against him.

on September 6 2019, they filed against him

Time is the greatest enemy of secrets and lies,with time both get exposed. These guys may be all powerful and connected now later in life they won't have the means to continue to exert these qualities for ever.

For decades the catholic body was able to block the truth from coming out,oppress the families of poor kids, both boys and girls sodomized or raped and even young women ,nuns raped by the local catholic church reverend fathers,archbishops etc Right now most of the secrets are out ,even the pope has now apologised for all the evils that has taken place in the catholic body.Some of these events happend as long as 30 to 40 yeras ago.What do the defenders of the catholic reverend fathers,arcbishops e.t.c have to say now?

These things also happen in pentecostal churches rape is worse than consensual sex.Even though both shouldn't happen at all in the first place in the church.Nigerians are affected by my-pastor-can-do-no-wrong-syndrome until it happens to them or someone close to them and no one also believes them before their eye go clear.However in Busola's case, plenty similar claim of rape by other women by thesame pastor will definitely help her claim.This happened in Bill Cosby case where about 60 women accused him of rape.

The hypocritical thing about this issue is that those that do not believe her rape claim because of know evidence are the ones that believe the Jesus and God story hook,line and sinker without any evidence including the certified lawyers among them.Leading to automatic belief that Pastors are error-proof.

I know the Nigerian legal system is still flawed but we are making amends and it will keep on improving. Time will come in the near future some of these pastors will be doing their jail time at old age like Bill Cosby and maybe R.Kelly soon.

lilwetdick:


wating for what, arent you seeing that the case is in court already. it simply means they filed against him.

on September 6 2019, they filed against him

Ok, let's see how it goes.