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Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nobody: 9:02am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: The question is, How many Churches spend the tithe they collect on the needy: widow, poor, fatherless, etc,?. Most pastor divert the tithe into their private pockets in the name of being levites. They live extravagant lives which make the tithe payers feel cheated. In the time of Jesus no levites was richer than tithe payers. But today our levites are the richest in town; and the widows, the fatherless , the poor are left uncared for. How do you explain That? 4 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by EzekaUdenee: 9:04am On Oct 13, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:07am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Techydude: 1. Have you asked where the Levites worked in those days? Go and read Exodus and Leviticus to see that they worked in the Tabernacle of God before a temple was built. After the temple got built, they continued working there. Simply put, they were workers who performed same activities as workers in Churches today. They were paid from the tithe given to the temple. Now, how do you expect those who clean and take care of the church today to feed? They are simply paid from the tithes which most times is even very little. Ask yourself, do you clean or do any work in God's house? Why don't you think those who do should be rewarded? 2. The church is the house of God. The temple also means church. We know the church to mean the body of Christ. Jesus himself said "destroy this temple and I will...". The below verse also said the Church today is the house of God. 1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 3. Only those whom God calls specifically to start a church can do so. 1 Like |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:09am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Sammiejokes: Can you eat the full cow you are tithing? The verse says thou shall eat there. It doesn't say thou shall EAT IT there. You are to eat there what the temple prepares for a feast from the tithe you all brought. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by decasey(m): 9:09am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Wow, I really appreciate the OP, dis is an eye openiner. No body have really educate us on tithe issue like. That unfortunate albino keep disseving people. OP thank u very much. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:10am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Squillaci: When Abraham paid tithe in Genesis, was it from agricultural produce? No. He paid a tithe of all he got. All means all, and all is all what all means. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:11am On Oct 13, 2019 |
LordReed: Are you expecting Jesus who is God to pay tithe? Okay, show us where the apostles used the toilet. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nobody: 9:12am On Oct 13, 2019 |
jboycrb:Quote the full verse/chapter let us see. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:12am On Oct 13, 2019 |
lifefaith: Since the disciples also didn't go to the toilet, make sure you never used the toilet too. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Neekado(m): 9:14am On Oct 13, 2019 |
From what was quoted in that Deuteronomy passage, I didn't see where it was stated that the tithe should be given to any body. What I can understand from what I read is that you take your tithe to the place God has called his own (maybe church) and you enjoy your tithes there with others. If you decide to convert your tithes to money and take it to church, you use the money to buy whatever you like including wine and strong drinks (alcohol) and enjoy yourself in the house of God. But I don't see many so called tithe payers doing anything like this but rather they twist everything and even condemn those that will actually pay their tithes just exactly the way it was instructed. If there is really hire fire, one thing I know for sure is that majority of people who pays tithes to a pastor or church will still go to hell fire because they don't understand anything about the bible. 1 Like |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Topmaike007(m): 9:14am On Oct 13, 2019 |
jboycrb:I tell you bro, even as it stand now self to drop offering dey hard me, na only if I hear that they need to build anything in church I don't waste time to drop the little I have |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:16am On Oct 13, 2019 |
sshyne: Look at you regurgitating what you have been deceived with. You even said Jesus never preached tithing. Who was talking below, saying tithing should never be neglected? Matthew 23:23 (KJV) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:17am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Ornament2003: Leave them for God to judge. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:19am On Oct 13, 2019 |
decasey: Welcome |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by BluntBoy(m): 9:19am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Thisis2raw: God no longer lives in those types of houses. Even the levites are now scattered abroad, and because no temple or a levitical priesthood needs maintenance, even the levites are now working for their own money. But your pastors, who are not of that priesthood, want your tithes by all means. 1 Like |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by BluntBoy(m): 9:22am On Oct 13, 2019 |
1Sharon: Don't mind them. Even the Levites, for whose sake tithe was primarily instituted no longer collect tithes because there is no functioning temple. There are levites scattered abroad, even in the United States, and they are working for their money. The Jews still practise tithing, but they eat their tithes, and only the farmers and herdsmen do. Many of the levites in Israel work for their money. 4 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by osaweseforme(m): 9:24am On Oct 13, 2019 |
[They will never read Nehemiah 13 cos that was where the priest stole and in Malachi condemn them. They should continue to deceive the gullibles that doesn't read their Bible.No more temple, your heart is now the temple of the Lord if you believe Him, no more levites and priest, believers are now kings and priests to the Lord. The new testament is about sacrificial giving, like the early church with signs and wonders, not the lukeworm church of these days , May God give us more understanding of His word quote author=Blackvic1 post=83092148]you wrote all this rubbish here to convince people to tithe, why are Nigerian Christians so concerned about tithing?first of all Tithes were given to the Levites and priests, but there are no Levites and priests in the new covenant. Levites and priests were tied to the sacrificial system of the old covenant. Now all believers are priests (1 Pet. 2:9; Rev. 1:6; 5:10; 20:6), with Jesus as our Melchizedekian high priest (Heb. 7) Secondly Israel was supposed to celebrate a tithe every three years in Jerusalem. But that requirement cannot apply to Christians today. It related to the Jews as a nation—to Jews who lived in the land of promise and you are here saying rubbish that it should be done every month thieves and criminals in the house of God , everything about Nigeria is built on Lies and deceit If you hve money give generously to the poor that is what Jesus commanded us to do ,when the Bible said about robbing God he was referring to the levites and the priests , give give give to the poor...that’s whats important not tithing it’s specifically for the Hebrews and Jews in the old mosaic religion [/quote] |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 9:26am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Neekado: The passage you read is not the ultimate rule for tithing. The first time tithe was mentioned was in.... Genesis 14:18-20 King James Version (KJV) And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. As seen above, Abraham gave the tithe to the Priest of God. That's the foundation of tithing and it involved giving to the priest fo God. Now, Deuteronomy 14 doesn't say you should go eat the tithe in God's house. It only says you should feast there which is from what the temple prepares from the collective tithes. Or can you eat a full cow in one sitting? You even mentioned strong drink. Are you also to drink the gallon of oil mentioned in the same verse? Check my profile for a sermon on alcohol. 1 Like |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by wickedtuna: 9:27am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Thisis2raw:so where is Gods house? |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Ceoking6: 9:28am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Blackvic1:I totally agree, these people actually believe those who oppose it aren't Christians themselves. The propaganda has stayed too long from the pulpit that they can't even search the truth themselves. Need I also add that their was coins and other monetary tenders in the old testament but the bible always referred to animals and crops as the only commodities to tithe with because by ordinances these were the only things that can be burnt as offering (just as it was with Cain and Abel sacrifices). The bible didn't even mention money or coins for the priest, the meat in the store house was enough for them. Today our fraudsters of pastors are against been given farm produce for harvest let alone tithe. All they want is money, they fraudulently assume the role of a levite priest and yet claim to be serving the only chief high priest that exist. Christ can't be the chief high priest yet you continue to practice the system his existence has come to abolish 2 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Apination(m): 9:29am On Oct 13, 2019 |
The Gospel is what is important, no one is saved by giving money to a pastor or being asked by a pastor to bring material gifts to receive God's blessings, that's simply SIMONY. Our inheritance is not the land given to the Jews as Christians but the sanctifying blood of he who died for us. The levites were to receive tithes since they had no land inheritance and not a law for everyone. At Jesus's death, the veil of the temple was torn in two, bringing an end to that covenant of the Leviticus mode of sacrifice and supplication. Mary pouring the ointment on Jesus's feet has no link to tithing, it was an act which pointed to his impending death. Stop quoting scriptures when you have no understanding of what it means, tell your lazy pastor to go and work and let people give to them out of their free will 2 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Unrated900(m): 9:29am On Oct 13, 2019 |
StrikeBack: Your post has stricked back truly |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by osaweseforme(m): 9:29am On Oct 13, 2019 |
They will never read Nehemiah 13 cos that was where the priest stole and Malachi condemn them. They should continue to deceive the gullibles that doesn't read their Bible.No more temple, your heart is now the temple of the Lord if you believe in Him, no more levites and priest, believers are now kings and priests to the Lord. The new testament is about sacrificial giving, like the early church with signs and wonders, not the lukeworm church of these days , May God give us more understanding of His word 3 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by wickedtuna: 9:31am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Even the OP sef don run. I wonder why this tithing is the only doctrine they hold unto from the old testament...lol 2 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Trueigbo: 9:32am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: brother that passage said use the tithe money and buy whatever your heart lust after. it is after you have finished enjoying that it said do not forget the levites. please read again 1 Like |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Trueigbo: 9:33am On Oct 13, 2019 |
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, 27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Unrated900(m): 9:34am On Oct 13, 2019 |
nonny1212: You know in the days of the Moses and Abraham and more.their belief in the lord is very strong compare to this modern days believers Some churches will mandate you to pay tithe by all means,they will even tell you it’s the gate way to success.yes we all Given to the poor is much extremely much ways to prosperity. Who are the Poors,the less privilege Not those who pretends on the street I will prefer if you want to give Go to any near by orphanage homes Buy them stuffs. Doing this will open supernatural blessings for you and your generations You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by BluntBoy(m): 9:34am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Do you know that the tithing law was tied to the Promised Land which is why tithes were purely land-based, and money wasn't even encouraged. If you had to redeem your tithes with money, there was a slight burden. Why didn't carpenters, fishermen, and others pay tithes? Was there no money in those days, even in the days of Jesus Christ? And yet Jesus Christ hinted tithes to be land-based agricultural products. There were a lot of fishermen in those days, and yet nowhere was it mentioned that Jesus Christ (a carpenter) or his disciples (fishermen, tax collector, zealot and others) paid tithes. 2 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Trueigbo: 9:35am On Oct 13, 2019 |
wickedtuna: i tireooo. even the same deut said do not plant different crops on the same land. yet we plant yam beans corn etc deut 22 vs 9 1 Like |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by badmrkt(m): 9:36am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Must tithe be monetized? what about other form of payments?? |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nobody: 9:36am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:We are not leaving them.for God to judge. We are making sure the poor and needy get what they deserve by giving them our tithes. You can go ahead and make your pastors richer,nobody cares. Just don't deceive others to do same. 2 Likes |
Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Blackvic1: 9:37am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Ceoking6:You are right christians maintain no Levitical priesthood. No “clergy class” exists among them, for whom tithes are collected. “All you are brothers.” (Matt. 23:8-11, NW) Those given oversight of Christian congregations, therefore, are unpaid slaves, not hirelings, not lovers of money or greedy for selfish gain. (John 10:13; 13:15, 16; Heb. 13:5; 1 Pet. 2:16; 5:1-4, NW) This is why Paul, the overseer, instead of collecting tithes for his support, worked with his own hands making tents. (Acts 18:3; 1 Cor. 4:12; 1 Thess. 2:9) Christians in those ancient times, in proving love for God and fellow Christians, made voluntary contributions for the needy, yes, but no oppressive tithing system was established.—Acts 11:29, 30; Rom. 15:26; 1 Cor. 16:1, 2; 2 Cor. 9:1-7; Gal. 2:10. Unknown in the early church, tithing was not introduced until wolves had entered in and spoiled the simple purity of the Christian flock. (Matt. 7:15; Acts 20:29, 30; Rom. 16:17, 18; 2 Pet. 2:1, 3) Apostasy in turn spawned an oppressive and expensive hierarchy of bishops, archbishops, metropolitans, popes,pastors and GOs etc., who placed heavy financial burdens on the necks of the people. 2 Likes |
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