airmark:


Maybe he will bring Tomori in, by 85th minute.

89th minute sir.

SkimpleD:
89th minute sir.

that is why choosing england over nigeria is a bad choice?

SkimpleD:

Barkley?

You wan give me L cos of Barkley?

Lol. Barkley is average sha but Southgate got this one right at least against a shocking Bulgarian side.

DeadPresidents:


Lol. Barkley is average sha but Southgate got this one right at least against a shocking Bulgarian side.

Yeah

DeadPresidents:


Lol. Barkley is average sha but Southgate got this one right at least against a shocking Bulgarian side.

Barkley is beyond average and you know this. Though I agree that Southgate got this one right this time.


I still dey laugh cos of the L you been wan give me cos of Barkley o baba

Whizlight:

that is why choosing england over nigeria is a bad choice?

Nah. Tammy and Tomori would get their chance and grab it.

SkimpleD:

Barkley of all people starts over Mount. Rashford starts over Sancho

Southgate sha

You say?

Barkley, 2 goals and 1 assist

SkimpleD:

Nah. Tammy and Tomori would get their chance and grab it.

Ok oo. But to england that british origin matters. Even an half breed is not too accepted.

Raheem Sterling is definitely the most underated player in the Premier League.

Dare I say it's because of his skin colour..

Bulgarians with racist chants directed towards Sterling..

A40, Bulgaria 0 - England 5, subs are Wilson,Mount and Sancho. No Tammy despite being 5 nil up.lol

Adiwana:
A40, Bulgaria 0 - England 5, sub's are Wilson,Mount and Sancho. No Tammy despite being 5 nil up.lol

Last match when they brought Tammy in as a sub, you complained, Today they didnt bring him as a sub you still complained

TAA one of the most in form player is on the bench, In football you have to sit on the bench some times

If Tammy continues to be in form, he will get his chance than to come play for a country he knows nothing about

Omo, e no go easy for Tammy and Tomori o

raumdeuter:


Last match when they brought Tammy in as a sub, you complained, Today they didnt bring him as a sub you still complained

TAA one of the most in form player is on the bench, In football you have to sit on the bench some times

If Tammy continues to be in form, he will get his chance than to come play for a country he knows nothing about

TAA has never been fancied by Southgate despite being good for Liverpool for at least 2 seasons now.And I said Tammy will only be good when England are losing.You think if England were losing this match,Wilson be brought in ahead of him??

See what Lampard have done for mount...and the rest

Adiwana:
TAA has never been fancied by Southgate despite being good for Liverpool for at least 2 seasons now.And I said Tammy will only be good when England are losing.You think if England were losing this match,Wilson be brought in ahead of him??

Tammy has a different style of play to Wilson and offers something different which is height and physicality. So it is a bad thing to bring a different type of striker on when you need a goal and everything you are doing till now hasnt produced goals

If Tammy maintains his form he will get his chances, Just like Sterling and co

Tammy is one of the newest members of the English team and you expect him to walk into the starting eleven just like that? Those on the bench are they not footballers too

SkimpleD:
Omo, e no go easy for Tammy and Tomori o

lets take a moment to laugh at them


glad he didnt give tomori time though. may be he will eventually get sense.

SkimpleD:

89th minute sir.

Hmnnn.

raumdeuter:


Tammy has a different style of play to Wilson and offers something different which is height and physicality. So it is a bad thing to bring a different type of striker on when you need a goal and everything you are doing till now hasnt produced goals

If Tammy maintains his form he will get his chances, Just like Sterling and co

Tammy is one of the newest members of the English team and you expect him to walk into the starting eleven just like that? Those on the bench are they not footballers too

Except you forget Tammy is a pure 9,not a player you can play on the wings.England will not play a 4-4-2 with him and Kane up front when they have truck load of wingers.Rashford plays well in England so where is he getting that shirt from.He will never bench Kane no matter how good he gets unless England goes for a total rebuilding. Kane as it is right now is a leader on the field for England and is playing well and scoring goals for the team.

Football at times is not a matter of form.If Southgate leaves tomorrow, a new coach may drop Trippier for TAA but it will be extremely hard to drop Kane for anybody.Displacing Kane is like Dybala saying he's displacing Messi from Argentina.Even though both play the same position,Its not going to be possible until Messi hangs his boots for Argentina.Same with Kane

Adiwana:


Except you forget Tammy is a pure 9,not a player you can play on the wings.England will not play a 4-4-2 with him and Kane up front when they have truck load of wingers.Rashford plays well in England so where is he getting that shirt from.He will never bench Kane no matter how good he gets unless England goes for a total rebuilding. Kane as it is right now is a leader on the field for England and is playing well and scoring goals for the team.

Football at times is not a matter of form.If Southgate leaves tomorrow, a new coach may drop Trippier for TAA but it will be extremely hard to drop Kane for anybody. Displacing Kane is like Dybala saying he's displacing Messi from Argentina.Even though both play the same position,Its not going to be possible until Messi hangs his boots for Argentina.Same with Kane

He is a top 9 just like Kane and will be Kanes backup
Being backup to Kane is not the worst thing in the world. Many strikers in the world with more experience will sit on the bench for Kane. So what is the big deal with Tammy sitting for Kane?

If he is not in form he will be dropped whether he chose England or Nigeria. So why should he pick a country where he probably doesn't understand their language and has barely been to?

If he drops form Nigeria will also drop him like we dropped Iheanacho

ukrain that nigeria bullied beat portugal with ronaldo on the field.

raumdeuter:


He is a top 9 just like Kane and will be Kanes backup
Being backup to Kane is not the worst thing in the world. Many strikers in the world with more experience will sit on the bench for Kane. So what is the big deal with Tammy sitting for Kane?

If he is not in form he will be dropped whether he chose England or Nigeria. So why should he pick a country where he probably doesn't understand their language and has barely been to?

If he drops form Nigeria will also drop him like we dropped Iheanacho

How has being backup for Messi worked out for Dybala?? Dude barely has an international career despite the things he has done in his club career. What's the point of playing well as a striker only to see the bench hoping Kane gets injured or whatever to be able to see game time when you can be a continental king down here contending for Afcon,African player of the year etc.In terms of football played on the field you are better off here than there.England will win games but you are not playing.Chances of winning any trophy with them is almost non existent. More chances of achieving with Nigeria than England.Only problem is NFF and all the bs that comes with them.

You can't even compare him to Iheanacho.Dude is not even making Leceister first team anymore.A drop in form for a player means just that spell things are not going well.Not a scenario you don't score for more than a year and not making bench anymore.If Tammy was in a situation things were not stable,he will still play for Nigeria. The shirt is almost guaranteed for him

airmark:


Hmnnn.

The matter na really hmmmm something

Adiwana:


How has being backup for Messi worked out for Dybala?? Dude barely has an international career despite the things he has done in his club career. What's the point of playing well as a striker only to see the bench hoping Kane gets injured or whatever to be able to see game time when you can be a continental king down here contending for Afcon,African player of the year etc.In terms of football played on the field you are better off here than there.England will win games but you are not playing.Chances of winning any trophy with them is almost non existent. More chances of achieving with Nigeria than England.Only problem is NFF and all the bs that comes with them.

You can't even compare him to Iheanacho.Dude is not even making Leceister first team anymore.A drop in form for a player means just that spell things are not going well.Not a scenario you don't score for more than a year and not making bench anymore.If Tammy was in a situation things were not stable,he will still play for Nigeria. The shirt is almost guaranteed for him

So if Dybala had chosen Greece instead or Ukraine how would he have been better for it. What is AFCON? Who watches AFCON? The last 5 AFCON I didnt even watch the group stages of games involving Nigeria.
The same AFCON some players will plead injury or excuse themselves from to focus on their club.
Players like Matip and KPB even announced International retirement so no one will call them for one useless AFCON.
Matip and KP-Boateng knowing they cant make it into European country squads, declared for African countries so that they can attend world cup, immediately after world cup and they started inviting them for AFCON they quickly announced their retirements.
Is that the same AFCON that Tammy should worry himself about?
Is playing for Nigeria a guarantee that he would win AFCON? We have only won 3 times. So its not like we win every time

We won in 1994 and 2013, That is almost a 20yr gap,, 2 generations of players played for Ngeria and didnt smell the AFCON. Kanu our greatest player ever did not win the AFCON

England has as much chances of winning the next Euro as Nigeria has of winning the next AFCON. I dont know which player will rather win AFCON over Euros

How does the guaranteed shirt in Nigeria benefit him? You have a chance of working with Amazon as a Software Engineer, why will you prefer Konga ?
Playing for England benefits his pocket in terms of salary negotiation, sponsorship and playing in a familiar environment with his friends, Nigeria guarantees him AFCON

Adiwana:


How has being backup for Messi worked out for Dybala?? Dude barely has an international career despite the things he has done in his club career. What's the point of playing well as a striker only to see the bench hoping Kane gets injured or whatever to be able to see game time when you can be a continental king down here contending for Afcon,African player of the year etc.In terms of football played on the field you are better off here than there.England will win games but you are not playing.Chances of winning any trophy with them is almost non existent. More chances of achieving with Nigeria than England.Only problem is NFF and all the bs that comes with them.

You can't even compare him to Iheanacho.Dude is not even making Leceister first team anymore.A drop in form for a player means just that spell things are not going well.Not a scenario you don't score for more than a year and not making bench anymore.If Tammy was in a situation things were not stable,he will still play for Nigeria. The shirt is almost guaranteed for him

You are the same one that will label Tammy as Victor Agali the minute he plays rubbish for Naija and call for Osimhen to replace him

Let's be honest, Tammy is a very vertical striker like Lewandowski and co. Nigerians may not take to him like they didn't take to Efan Ekoku. They may prefer more fluid strikers. Allow the boy bide his time with England.

The likes of Andy Cole, Ian Wright and co who rode bench for England are more successful and renowned than SiaSia, Amokachi, Yekini who started for Nigeria. They have so many media opportunities now compared to SiaSia and Amokachi who are looking for where to eat.

raumdeuter:


So if Dybala had chosen Greece instead of Ukraine how would he have been better for it. What is AFCON? The same AFCON some players will plead injury or excuse themselves from to focus on their club. Is playing for Nigeria a guarantee that eh would win AFCON? We have only won 3 times. So its not like we win every time

We won in 1994 and 2013, That is almost a 20yr gap,, 2 generations of players played for Ngeria and didnt smell the AFCON. Kanu our greatest player ever did not win the AFCON

England has as much chances of winning the next Euro as Nigeria has of winning the next AFCON. I dont know which player will rather win AFCON over Euros

How does the guaranteed shirt in Nigeria benefit him? You have a chance of working with Amazon as a Software Engineer, why will you prefer Konga ?

Your Dybala scenario doesn't make sense. Am just saying,there are players you just can't displace from their position. If Dybala was offered to play for Italy and thought that for some strange reason he would displace Messi at Argentina or if he maintained his form he will play knowing fully well he can't play any other position for Argentina if not for that No 10 postion,then he would've been really dreaming.Same thing with Tammy.If he is comfortable playing behind Kane then its all good.But if he ever went with England other than Nigeria with the hope of playing then he's fvcked.

Not saying he will win it with Nigeria. But he has higher chances winning Afcon than Euro especially since he's was going to be a big boost to the squad.He will contribute more to Nigeria than England which boosts his chances of winning the title.For example,Ighalo's goals took the team to the SF of this years edition. Now if he reaches his potentials,he will be better than Ighalo and that's potential extra goals to win the trophy

Guaranteed shirts means he could write his name as an African great,African player of the year.He will be a lion here rather than mouse there.Overall positive outlook for his career.And please its better to be a CEO of Konga than gate man at Amazon.That's exactly what's been played out here

Adiwana:


Your Dybala scenario doesn't make sense. Am just saying,there are players you just can't displace from their position. If Dybala was offered to play for Italy and thought that for some strange reason he would displace Messi at Argentina or if he maintained his form he will play knowing fully well he can't play any other position for Argentina if not for that No 10 postion,then he would've been really dreaming.Same thing with Tammy.If he is comfortable playing behind Kane then its all good.But if he ever went with England other than Nigeria with the hope of playing then he's fvcked.

Not saying he will win it with Nigeria. But he has higher chances winning Afcon than Euro especially since he's was going to be a big boost to the squad.He will contribute more to Nigeria than England which boosts his chances of winning the title.For example,Ighalo's goals took the team to the SF of this years edition. Now if he reaches his potentials,he will be better than Ighalo and that's potential extra goals to win the trophy

Guaranteed shirts means he could write his name as an African great,African player of the year.He will be a lion here rather than mouse there.Overall positive outlook for his career.And please its better to be a CEO of Konga than gate man at Amazon.That's exactly what's been played out here

Italy and Argentina are peers in football in terms of exposure ranking and everything, Nigeria is not mates with England in football.

England to Nigeria is like Argentina to Ukraine which is what is analogous to Tammy leaving England for Nigeria

Some players dont even want to play in AFCON cos its a bloody waste of time. Do you think Kante regrets not playing for Mali? or Pogba regrets not playing for Guinea? How are his brothers who chose Guinea faring

Pogba in Guinea is guaranteed a shirt for life, should he choose Guinea?

Does Amazon employ Software engineers as gatemen?
Gabriel Jesus is a backup striker for Brazil, Ask him if he will rather go play for New Zealand so he can be an Oceania football legend?

Juninho Pernambucano was a backup for most of his National team career, Would he have been better if he decided to play for Venezuela or Costa Rica

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You are the same one that will label Tammy as Victor Agali the minute he plays rubbish for Naija and call for Osimhen to replace him

This makes no sense at all.So because he plays for Nigeria,if he plays rubbish I should clap for him.So because Ighalo was Afcon highest goal scorer,when he failed to square up the ball to Ahmed Musa I should have called to congratulate him.smh

Let's be honest, Tammy is a very vertical striker like Lewandowski and co. Nigerians may not take to him like they didn't take to Efan Ekoku. They may prefer more fluid strikers. Allow the boy bide his time with England.

Let's not act like that boy will not be liked and given play time here.Iwobi who is probably the most average and overrated player i have ever seen that should be playing for Norwich is a starter here.Playing for this country won't have been an issue

The likes of Andy Cole, Ian Wright and co who rode bench for England are more successful and renowned than SiaSia, Amokachi, Yekini who started for Nigeria. They have so many media opportunities now compared to SiaSia and Amokachi who are looking for where to eat

Am talking about football on the field.Not what one does outside of it.So there are no African players that are eating well and have media opportunities. Drogba,Okcha,Eto'o and a host of others?? So Andy Cole,Ian Wright had more successful careers than Drogba or Yaya Toure?? Lol

Adiwana:
m talking about football on the field.Not what one does outside of it.So there are no African players that are eating well and have media opportunities. Drogba,Okcha,Eto'o and a host of others?? So Andy Cole,Ian Wright had more successful careers than Drogba or Yaya Toure?? Lol

Some opportunities on the field are total waste of time like AFCON qualifiers and AFCON itself. If most players have a choice they will rather avoid it. England played Bulgaria see the amount of people with financial power who watched it. When Nigeria is playing Burundi for the AFCON qualifiers how many people like that will watch? The match might even be played on a substandard field

If these players you mentioned were to be Europeans pray tell how much more they will have

Zidane is an Algerian like Rabah Madjer, Dessailly is a Ghanain like Tony Bafoe, Pogba is a Guinean like Titi Camara,
If Zidane had chosen Algeria do you think he will be at this level? or Dessaily chosen Ghana

raumdeuter:


Italy and Argentina are peers in football in terms of exposure ranking and everything, Nigeria is not mates with England in football.

England to Nigeria is like Argentina to Ukraine which is what is analogous to Tammy leaving England for Nigeria

Some players dont even want to play in AFCON cos its a bloody waste of time. Do you think Kante regrets not playing for Mali? or Pogba regrets not playing for Guinea? How are his brothers who chose Guinea faring

Does Amazon employ Software engineers as gatemen?
Gabriel Jesus is a backup striker for Brazil, Ask him if he will rather go play for New Zealand so he can be an Oceania football legend?

Juninho Pernambucano was a backup for most of his National team career, Would he have been better if he decided to play for Venezuela or Costa Rica

It has nothing to do with tier level of both countries.If he considered strictly how his internatonal would be,he would play for Italy. If he thought that maybe he doesn't care about those and really cares about just representing his country,then Argentina to the rescue.But if he thought him choosing Argentina was kicking the ball with Messi around,them I would like to have those drugs he had

When the news came out of Tammy and Tomori call up,I said Tomori will benefit from it cause England have been looking for a partner for Maguire.So far as he continues playing well,he will cement his place in the team.Trying to compare Kante and Pogba's situations of playing either for their African countries or France don't relate cause they will play for France irrespective of anything.There are no Xavi and Iniesta there.The positons they both play is an open one

Them no born you well to say you were signing for Barcelona as a midfileder during the days of Xavi and Iniesta.Prime Alex Song was relegated by Busquet.What happened to Fabregas at Barca?? Pirlo would've been cleaning the entire bench despite how good he was during the time of prime Xavi.

There are positions you can walk into in any team and compete.If Tammy was a midfielder,winger he would play. If he was a defender,he will play.But to say he's walking into England to play as a CF when Harry Kane is hale and hearty is simply being delusional

Brazil doesn't have a decent striker.Firmino is no Ronaldo.Hes good in link up play but hat is it.Jesus has chances of playing especially when it comes to scoring goal and he plays for the team.If I had option as a striker to play for either Brazil or Nigeria I will go for Brazil.Because I know if I can perform at least one quarter of Ronaldo,I will be in their starting eleven

Adiwana:


It has nothing to do with tier level of both countries.If he considered strictly how his internatonal would be,he would play for Italy. If he thought that maybe he doesn't care about those and really cares about just representing his country,then Argentina to the rescue.But if he thought him choosing Argentina was kicking the ball with Messi around,them I would like to have those drugs he had

When the news came out of Tammy and Tomori call up,I said Tomori will benefit from it cause England have been looking for a partner for Maguire.So far as he continues playing well,he will cement his place in the team.Trying to compare Kante and Pogba's situations of playing either for their African countries or France don't relate cause they will play for France irrespective of anything.There are no Xavi and Iniesta there.The positons they both play is an open one

Them no born you well to say you were signing for Barcelona as a midfileder during the days of Xavi and Iniesta.Prime Alex Song was relegated by Busquet.What happened to Fabregas at Barca?? Pirlo would've been cleaning the entire bench despite how good he was during the time of prime Xavi.

There are positions you can walk into in any team and compete.If Tammy was a midfielder,winger he would play. If he was a defender,he will play.But to say he's walking into England to play as a CF when Harry Kane is hale and hearty is simply being delusional

Brazil doesn't have a decent striker.Firmino is no Ronaldo.Hes good in link up play but hat is it.Jesus has chances of playing especially when it comes to scoring goal and he plays for the team.If I had option as a striker to play for either Brazil or Nigeria I will go for Brazil.Because I know if I can perform at least one quarter of Ronaldo,I will be in their starting eleven

Playing for Italy and Playing for Argentina holds no significant difference in finances and exposure

Playing for Nigeria vs Playing for England is significantly different

With Xavi and Iniesta playing David Silva still played, Would David Silvas career have been better if he chose to play for Venezuela instead

Fabinho is behind Casemiro in ranking for Brazil, should he have gone to play for Angola instead? So that he will get a chance to play AFCON and become an Angolan legend

raumdeuter:


Some opportunities on the field are total waste of time like AFCON qualifiers and AFCON itself. If most players have a choice they will rather avoid it. England played Bulgaria see the amount of people with financial power who watched it. When Nigeria is playing Burundi for the AFCON qualifiers how many people like that will watch? The match might even be played on a substandard field

If these players you mentioned were to be Europeans pray tell how much more they will have

Zidane is an Algerian like Rabah Madjer, Dessailly is a Ghanain like Tony Bafoe, Pogba is a Guinean like Titi Camara,
If Zidane had chosen Algeria do you think he will be at this level? or Dessaily chosen Ghana

You keep on saying Afcon is useless but winning it is still better than having 0 international career trophies.Messi has 0 international trophies despite copa America being more uselss than afcon.A competition they have to hand over invites for other countries in other continets to come and join them in playing due to shortage of teams.Only Argentina, Colombia and Brazil are decent there.Add Chile and you have an already set up semi final even before the competition even began.Still its a silverware that have escaped Messi which he may never win.


I can also call a couple of African players that would've been crazy players for European countries.It really goes both ways