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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:10pm On Oct 14, 2019
Lana1:
Azpilicueta has been excellent in defence for Chelsea? cheesy
He is aging now, he used to be one of their best defenders...

Point I'm actually making is that 1 vs 1, Azpi is had to beat but playing him as a RB requires more than just defending, his attacking play is average and that's why you have Chelsea fans rooting for Reece James to nail that position. He isn't better defensively but for his attacking play, he best fits the football Lampard wants his team to play...

Watch Liverpool vs Salzburg and you'll see how Robertson and TAA combined for Robertson's goal, that's how much fullbacks contributes to a teams attacking play.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:38pm On Oct 14, 2019
codedguy1:


Which spirit abeg? grin Please be specific?

So that we know from which angle the prayers will start.

Even me I’m confused.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:51pm On Oct 14, 2019
patrickmuf:
He is aging now, he used to be one of their best defenders...
Then he should retire if age is no longer on his side. That one no consign anybody. Once you're on the pitch, your club and fans deserve to see you giving around 8/10 at least every game.

Point I'm actually making is that 1 vs 1, Azpi is had to beat but playing him as a RB requires more than just defending, his attacking play is average and that's why you have Chelsea fans rooting for Reece James to nail that position. He isn't better defensively but for his attacking play, he best fits the football Lampard wants his team to play...

Watch Liverpool vs Salzburg and you'll see how Robertson and TAA combined for Robertson's goal, that's how much fullbacks contributes to a teams attacking play.
Now ask urself which kind of attacking play this team deploys that the full backs can contribute to.

I'm sure you didn't see his cross against West Ham that useless Rashford couldn't finish.

Of everybody in the whole team, AWB has the most dribbles going forward. Young is the only defender with more crosses and key passes than him....yet, how many assists Young get?

You can compare him with TAA and Azpi all you want. Fact is those 2 have forwards who are always present in the box to tap in their crosses unlike AWB.

If AWB played in a better team like everyone you compare him to, i'm sure he'd be pulling his weight in attack too. Right now, United hasn't been a significant upgrade on Crystal Palace for anyone to be coming up with these kind of conclusions on AWB.

If TAA played for United, he wont even be better than Young talk-less of seeing assists every matchday.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamoyindamola(m): 1:55pm On Oct 14, 2019
hensben:
Lol. Linzy the presser.
The dancer
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:23pm On Oct 14, 2019
patrickmuf:
He is aging now, he used to be one of their best defenders...

Point I'm actually making is that 1 vs 1, Azpi is had to beat but playing him as a RB requires more than just defending, his attacking play is average and that's why you have Chelsea fans rooting for Reece James to nail that position. He isn't better defensively but for his attacking play, he best fits the football Lampard wants his team to play...

Watch Liverpool vs Salzburg and you'll see how Robertson and TAA combined for Robertson's goal, that's how much fullbacks contributes to a teams attacking play.

TAA and Robertson are able to join attacks because Klopp deploys midfielders who cover for them when they go forward

When AWB attacks who will cover for him? If the team concede goals because AWB decides to go forward wont you come back to blame him?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 3:34pm On Oct 14, 2019
raumdeuter:


TAA and Robertson are able to join attacks because Klopp deploys midfielders who cover for them when they go forward

When AWB attacks who will cover for him? If the team concede goals because AWB decides to go forward wont you come back to blame him?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 3:48pm On Oct 14, 2019
hensben:
Mehn this is funny and at same time ridiculous.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nihilistjnr: 3:50pm On Oct 14, 2019
thorrvik55:


No way mehn.

Rashy in place of Firmino and Lingzy in place of Salah for sure.

Lingzy is one of the most underated footballers in the world. His PRESSING ability is second to none..

He has a lot of potential sha. Make una no too diss am like that - it's very difficult for these youth players like Lingard and Greenwood to break into first team

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TalabiAudu: 3:55pm On Oct 14, 2019
hensben:
Mehn this is funny and at same time ridiculous.

Low-key, this is very true
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 4:04pm On Oct 14, 2019
TalabiAudu:


Low-key, this is very true
Low key it's fallacy. Pogba is better than all the midfielders paraded there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 4:38pm On Oct 14, 2019
Sanchez out injured for 3 months.......but.....but......but.....why did Ole let him go on loan na??




Useless unreliable players.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 4:42pm On Oct 14, 2019
Lana1:
Sanchez out injured for 3 months.......but.....but......but.....why did Ole let him go on loan na??




Useless unreliable players.
Whether he's here or not, doesn't make any difference.
The guy is like a curse Jose put on us before he left

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 4:44pm On Oct 14, 2019
chrisley024:
Whether he's here or not, doesn't make any difference.
The guy is like a curse Jose put on us before he left
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 4:45pm On Oct 14, 2019
hensben:
Mehn this is funny and at same time ridiculous.
Will it be any different if it was Chelsea or Arsenal?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 4:46pm On Oct 14, 2019
spillo1:

Will it be any difference if it was Chelsea or Arsenal?
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:53pm On Oct 14, 2019
raumdeuter:


TAA and Robertson are able to join attacks because Klopp deploys midfielders who cover for them when they go forward

When AWB attacks who will cover for him? If the team concede goals because AWB decides to go forward wont you come back to blame him?
You saw Bernat and Meunier combine to down Madrid...Who provides cover for them? Marquinos alone abi?

Marcelo and Carvajal are very attacking with or without Casemiro starting...

Alaba is very attacking so is Kimmich when he is deployed at RB...

The truth of the matter is that Wan-Bissaka is poor going forward. Dalot joins the attack from that same position, I guess he has Roy Keane covering him...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:00pm On Oct 14, 2019
Lana1:
Then he should retire if age is no longer on his side. That one no consign anybody. Once you're on the pitch, your club and fans deserve to see you giving around 8/10 at least every game.

Now ask urself which kind of attacking play this team deploys that the full backs can contribute to.

I'm sure you didn't see his cross against West Ham that useless Rashford couldn't finish.

Of everybody in the whole team, AWB has the most dribbles going forward. Young is the only defender with more crosses and key passes than him....yet, how many assists Young get?

You can compare him with TAA and Azpi all you want. Fact is those 2 have forwards who are always present in the box to tap in their crosses unlike AWB.

If AWB played in a better team like everyone you compare him to, i'm sure he'd be pulling his weight in attack too. Right now, United hasn't been a significant upgrade on Crystal Palace for anyone to be coming up with these kind of conclusions on AWB.

If TAA played for United, he wont even be better than Young talk-less of seeing assists every matchday.
No be everything be argument, Wan-Bissaka is renowned for his defensive qualities rather than attacking...Asking that he improves or having a different opinion isn't bad after all...I have watched enough of him to draw conclusion already...

Robertson played for relegated Hull City but his attacking quality was obvious.

Maguire played for same Hull City but you could spot his composure with the ball at his feet.

Erik Pieters plays for Burnley but you can't question his attacking play or are the strikers at Burnley better than those we parade?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:44pm On Oct 14, 2019
patrickmuf:
You saw Bernat and Meunier combine to down Madrid...Who provides cover for them? Marquinos alone abi?
Marcelo and Carvajal are very attacking with or without Casemiro starting...
Alaba is very attacking so is Kimmich when he is deployed at RB...
The truth of the matter is that Wan-Bissaka is poor going forward. Dalot joins the attack from that same position, I guess he has Roy Keane covering him...
PSG have Verrati they have Gana Gueye and they have Herrera
If Casemiro does not start Madrid still has players covering for them
Alaba and Kimmich have midfielders who cover for them when they go forward, Alba does. A full-back shouldn't just bomb forward without cover

Have you seen Chelsea fans complains about Alonso who goes forward and they concede from his side?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:32pm On Oct 14, 2019
Dalot joins attack more than AWB? patrickmuf you may need to calm down o. Dalot has been joining attack to do what exactly? How many crosses does he have and how many have hit the target? What exactly has Dalot brought to our attack since he joined playing from RB?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrDojo(m): 6:46pm On Oct 14, 2019
spillo1:

Will it be any difference if it was Chelsea or Arsenal?

It's tough. Personally, I'd take Auba over Bobby.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:06pm On Oct 14, 2019
raumdeuter:

PSG have Verrati they have Gana Gueye and they have Herrera
If Casemiro does not start Madrid still has players covering for them
Alaba and Kimmich have midfielders who cover for them when they go forward, Alba does. A full-back shouldn't just bomb forward without cover

Have you seen Chelsea fans complains about Alonso who goes forward and they concede from his side?
But Chelsea has Kante, no?

The truth is that an attacking fullback will push forward regardless of the cover, he might be a little cautious but that quality will be obvious...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:07pm On Oct 14, 2019
eph12:
Dalot joins attack more than AWB? patrickmuf you may need to calm down o. Dalot has been joining attack to do what exactly? How many crosses does he have and how many have hit the target? What exactly has Dalot brought to our attack since he joined playing from RB?
Dalot is the best crosser of the ball amongst all our full backs...Watch him closely when he plays.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:29pm On Oct 14, 2019
patrickmuf:
But Chelsea has Kante, no?
The truth is that an attacking fullback will push forward regardless of the cover, he might be a little cautious but that quality will be obvious...

Kante cannot cover everyone, before you overlap, you need a plan to cover your area. When TAA and Robertson overlap, Fabinho Wijnaldum Milner and Henderson are readily available to cover them. Does Man Utd have such plan or you just want him to bomb forward regardless?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 7:32pm On Oct 14, 2019
spillo1:

Will it be any different if it was Chelsea or Arsenal?

So u will take Fabinho over Kante.

No Liverpool midfielder comes close to Kante Jorg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:02pm On Oct 14, 2019
patrickmuf:
Dalot is the best crosser of the ball amongst all our full backs...Watch him closely when he plays.
I should watch out for his crosses when he plays? Alright
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 8:09pm On Oct 14, 2019
Obere4u:


So u will take Fabinho over Kante.

No Liverpool midfielder comes close to Kante Jorg
No Liverpool midfielder comes close to Pogba as well.


I hope that's not who I think that is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 8:10pm On Oct 14, 2019
Uncle Rashidi scores a range cracker for England.

About time grin He knows he can't be useless forever grin grin

Maybe we should look at him rotating with James on the left. He looks better there..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bjteensdes24: 8:21pm On Oct 14, 2019
Hello, Please anyone to share me Man United WhatsApp group link or any Sports group WhatsApp link?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 8:24pm On Oct 14, 2019
MrDojo:


It's tough. Personally, I'd take Auba over Bobby.
In my opinion as well Auba is too much of a poacher. If he doesn't score he is mostly invisible so nay. Their is a better striker at your club even he won't start over Bobby.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 8:33pm On Oct 14, 2019
spillo1:

In my opinion as well Auba is too much of a poacher. If he doesn't score he is mostly invisible so nay. Their is a better striker at your club even he won't start over Bobby.

I disagree.

Firmino's pattern of play is all about allowing the attack to be fluid, creating chances and even dropping to midfield just to create chances for his wide forwards.

Not every team can afford to have a striker that's not all about goals. He complements that Liverpool attack perfectly because Mane and Salah are goal getters.
Such pattern of play would not work at a club where the only thing their wing forward cares about is the "I dribbled Van Dijk" trophy.
If Mane and Salah were not producing the goals then there is no way he would be lauded for his style of play..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SkimpleD: 8:36pm On Oct 14, 2019
Bjteensdes24:
Hello, Please anyone to share me Man United WhatsApp group link or any Sports group WhatsApp link?
Leyqute can help you. He is an admin of the largest United Whatsapp group.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:57pm On Oct 14, 2019
spillo1:

In my opinion as well Auba is too much of a poacher. If he doesn't score he is mostly invisible so nay. Their is a better striker at your club even he won't start over Bobby.

We are lauding Firmino for being a striker who doesn't score but makes others score, So what happens when you have wingers who dont score as much what will be the use of Firmino

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