Jokerman:


How dare you compare a 3 time World Cup winner to a zero time champion??

Pele was a
Low budget Mbappe in 58 World cup(Didi won the World cup best player award)
Low budget Dembele in 62 World cuo(Garrincha won the World cup best player award)
Low budget Klose in 70 World cup (Jarzinho also deserved the World best player award together with Pele)

Pele had superior teammates in a Non-competitve era!!!

SirKomA:




Let me say it again, when it comes to Soccer, no one plays better than Messi. Leave aside achievements, cos I don't want to go into that. I repeat, there hasn't existed a footballer that plays finer and better than Messi. Just stop the argument and get the point. Besides, you don't even like cr7 more than I do.

Fine.... Let's talk football alone

What does Messi do better than these players on the pitch of play??

Ronaldinho
Romario
Zidane
Maradona
Pele

eni4real:

Pele was a
Low budget Mbappe in 58 World cup(Didi won the World cup best player award)
Low budget Dembele in 62 World cuo(Garrincha won the World cup best player award)
Low budget Klose in 70 World cup (Jarzinho also deserved the World best player award together with Pele)

Pele had superior teammates in a Non-competitve era!!!

Pele that finished a WC with 10 assists or the Pele that made 3 assists in a WC final??

Beverlyjean:


Is it by that one?? Fake award... Undeserving... Someone that has only la Liga to show for it , against those that won the same domestic titles or CL or Copa or nations league... Crap award... When they gave modric last year, that's when I knew the award is crap... Real fans know who the greatest is... Local la Liga Champion

there is no rue that says a player must win the champions league to be the best. I think d European best player award is given to d best player in the champions league. Last I checked, it's an individual award in recognition for a players brilliance.

Jokerman:


How dare you compare a 3 time World Cup winner to a zero time champion??

So dembele didn't win world cup?

LZAA:

Maradona had three assists in that final yet he was carried
Walahi i give up
Btw ppl keep going on about his world class second goal against england yet he scored a better one in his brace against Belgium in the semifinals

Just 1 assist.. The Buruchaga own..

Assists happen when you don't have Higuain who miss..

Someone score the goals for him...

Mario Kempes scored a brace for Argentina in 1978 World cup final and he never get overhyped like Maradona who was largely a VARadona.. !!!

hopefulLandlord:


Imagine the rubbish of comparing Pepe's brutality to that of defenders in those days? Pepe would be like one of the softest defenders if he played in that era

Na dia way
Just mention cr7 or messi to get their attention

hopefulLandlord:


Pepe at his brutal worst can't hold a candle to the butcher of bilbao at his mildness. mind you, butcher of bilbao came when football rules have started to favour attackers bit by bit so I leave what was happening before then to your imaginations

Hope you know that Vidic>>Vinie Jones??

Being senseless on tackle shows how technically deficient you are..

Those defenders will never be as good!!

mystical109:
there is no rue that says a player must win the champions league to be the best. I think d European best player award is given to d best player in the champions league. Last I checked, it's an individual award in recognition for a players brilliance.

Nonsense talk... Was modric better than CR7 the season b4 ... But because he got to the final of the WC that yr , he was awarded best player.... But now they changed rules to favour Messi as usual

hopefulLandlord:


These guys don't know Ronaldo won FIFA world player of the year in 1996 at the age of 18, That was the year he lost Olympics to Nigeria. Then won FIFA world player of the year the next year too at the age of 19. he would've won that of 1998 if not for his food getting poisoned before the final match against France. then injuries started piling up but even through these injuries and thyroid problems which made him gain weight he still came for 2002 world cup and won another WPOTY. these kids can't know this and think football started existing in 2009

. Aswear them no sabi say Ronaldo na the king of all strikers it’s only Marco van basten that comes close cod that guy to was so much exceptional Ronaldo nazario De Lima first of his name king of all strikers Ronaldo can do everything he is neither a tap in merchant all someone whose main strength is playing shots I still remember the step over he used to dribble the Ghanaian go at the 2006 World Cup which was his last I tried it I couldn’t I have never seen anyone else do such impressive skills in a longtime I don’t know who invented the step overs but Ronaldo is who made step overs popular you don’t just call him Ronaldo you stress the Naldo part lol like Ro-Naldo! Il fenomeno the world of soccer has not seen another like him since he quit I’m not sure we would see another self he is special exceptional phenomenal amazing and unbelievable

Fladm:


So dembele didn't win world cup?

Is dembele in contention for GOAT status??

eni4real:
Just 1 assist.. The Buruchaga own..

Assists happen when you don't have Higuain who miss..

Someone score the goals for him...

Mario Kempes scored a brace for Argentina in 1978 World cup final and he never get overhyped like Maradona who was largely a VARadona.. !!!

So its higuain fault now abi
Maradona overhyped?

Jokerman:


Oga even cristiano has surpassed cryuff in both European and world football

Cruyff is still laughing... When Cristiano win the World cup golden ball, then we can talk

m140:

Qualified,
And how do you conclude your goat

Everything should be included. I believe Messi is in top 10 of 1:most trophies won, 2:Most goals scored, 3:Best player, 4:most assists, 5:most awards, 6:Most consistent, 7:best dribblers. No player dead or alive can tick all the boxes. You can mention

eni4real:
Hope you know that Vidic>>Vinie Jones??

Being senseless on tackle shows how technically deficient you are..

Those defenders will never be as good!!

Can you tell us any defender of fhis present era better than these names

Franco Baresi
Bobby Moore
Pasarella
Beckenbauer

eni4real:
Hope you know that Vidic>>Vinie Jones??

Being senseless on tackle shows how technically deficient you are..

Those defenders will never be as good!!

Well jones was a midfielder so your argument lacks substance
He mentioned the butcher of Bilbao

Jokerman:


Lol... When Pele even lost the COPA America, he was still awarded the best player of the tourney... Pele has also won both the youth and WC best player convincingly... Not like one that blatter dey dash award

Pele that was playing in a Non-competitve era

I use his highlight for comic relief... Those defenders are very funny..

eni4real:
Cruyff is still laughing... When Cristiano win the World cup golden ball, then we can talk

Lol... So it's by World Cup golden ball now??

Jokerman:


Can you tell us any defender of fhis present era better than these names

Franco Baresi
Bobby Moore
Pasarella
Beckenbauer

Cr7 and messi

LZAA:

Well jones was a midfielder so your argument lacks substance
He mentioned the butcher of Bilbao

Butchers of Bilbao that will not make any best XI of all time...
Overrated!!!

eni4real:
Butchers of Bilbao that will not make any best XI of all time...
Overrated!!!

Jokerman:


Lol... So it's by World Cup golden ball now??

That is the same reason why Modric won the Ballon d'or, FIFA best player award, UEFA best player award, IFHSS best player award and Goal 50 award ahead of Cristiano in 2018!!!

Even Cristiano understands the power of World cup golden ball that year!!!

mystical109:
Everything should be included. I believe Messi is in top 10 of 1:most trophies won, 2:Most goals scored, 3:Best player, 4:most assists, 5:most awards, 6:Most consistent, 7:best dribblers. No player dead or alive can tick all the boxes. You can mention

Lol... You believe Messi is in top 10... This should have been your argument... Not calling him the number 1...

Now I will give you players that can tick all the boxes

Pele
Cristiano
Alfredo Di stephano
Ronaldo delima
Maradona

eni4real:
That is the same reason why Modric won the Ballon d'or, FIFA best player award, UEFA best player award, IFHSS best player award and Goal 50 award ahead of Cristiano in 2018!!!

Even Cristiano understands the power of World cup golden ball that year!!!

So why didn't Forlan or Messi win FIFA best in the years they won WC golden ball??

m140:

Ask zlatan if messi is better than he is , am sure he will say no , tell him R9 is better he will tell you he is his idol, that guy R9 bad ghan, i swear social media hyped players these days

Don’t mind them me self no be say I be methuselah o na my football knowledge just deep small but how would you call yourself a real soccer fan and you’re at least 25 and you have not seen or heard bout the greatness of the Real Ronaldo nazario de Lima ll Fenomeno then you shouldn’t put your mouth where greatness his being discussed at the peak of Thierry Henry’s career he played some kinda football that C.Ronaldo wouldn’t match till he retires I’m talking play wise especially his crazy solo runs I believe if he was playing in one of Spain or Italy’s top clubs then he would have won the ballon Dor and FIFA best at least ones still Henry is not even close to The Real Ronaldo ability and talent wise putting someone like CR7 above the Ronaldo is quite disrespectful I’m sorry but not sorry!

Jokerman:


Is dembele in contention for GOAT status??

You said zero time champion..
So i just want to clarify that

mystical109:
Everything should be included. I believe Messi is in top 10 of 1:most trophies won, 2:Most goals scored, 3:Best player, 4:most assists, 5:most awards, 6:Most consistent, 7:best dribblers. No player dead or alive can tick all the boxes. You can mention

In what tournament does he , European football ball, what record did he break in copa America, or wc, this are very important tournament. And those he got those stats from is from yearly tournament, it easily to rank up stats. GOAT na beens , he hasn't broken records in wc and nationals team, he hasn't broken records in different leagues, and you call him goat .... Mr go sit down,,,, he only broke laliga record, all this ballon d'or na wash, 2010 is there na wash, na that stat , after barca ,spain give me him stat,

hopefulLandlord:


This shows you have no idea what you're talking about. Brazilian football in those days was arguably the best league in the world as players rarely move out of their countries for football and Brazilian league contained the best talents at the time

And yet the Brazilian president had to beg him to keep playing in santos when offer came from europe.

I here you.

Gentile low budget Pepe smh. Please do not mention Pepe when we are talking of world class defenders even the brute class that Gentile belongs.He sent the two best players of 82 world cup (Zico and Maradona) out of the tournament with the most brutal markings ever witnessed.Was Pepe ever named in the tournament team in any FIFA rated competition he has played.Please stop viewing football from the prism of youtube views.

Please get your hands on Pele's book all his goals were documented there.This is a player that was held in awe by all famous presidents even nations like US where football was not popular when he played.

eni4real:

Arthur Friedrich 1300+ goals
Josef Bican 2500+ goals..

Sham goals!!

Pele's official goal is 767

643 for Santos!!!

Claudio Gentile was low budget Pepe tho!! !

Jokerman:


Can you tell us any defender of fhis present era better than these names

Franco Baresi
Bobby Moore
Pasarella
Beckenbauer

You are picking the best of the bunch..

Pele played against this particular ones once in 100 games considering the fact that he played in his native land throughout his active careers!!

Baresi was a 80's defender tho
Bobby Moore : Hope you are not referring to 66 World cup tho!! Brazil crashed out of the group stage!!
Pasarella was a 70's and 80's defender too. I don't know how relate to Pele
Beckenbauer was a great defender of the 70's but he offered more than defending.. He was a total player and that is why he won the Ballon d'or!!

I repeat, Pele played with average defenders in the 50's and 60's... Before Nigeria even gain independence.. Abeg.. Drop the hype!!

Everything evolved! ! All Sports and football will not he an exception...

If Athletucs were to be like football, I am sure many sprinters of the 60's will claim to be better than Usain Bolt

Carlyboi:
Don’t mind them me self no be say I be methuselah o na my football knowledge just deep small but how would you call yourself a real soccer fan and you’re at least 25 and you have not seen or heard bout the greatness of the Real Ronaldo nazario de Lima ll Fenomeno then you shouldn’t put your mouth where greatness his being discussed at the peak of Thierry Henry’s career he played some kinda football that C.Ronaldo wouldn’t match till he retires I’m talking play wise especially his crazy solo runs I believe if he was playing in one of Spain or Italy’s top clubs then he would have won the ballon Dor and FIFA best at least ones still Henry is not even close to The Real Ronaldo ability and talent wise putting someone like CR7 above the Ronaldo is quite disrespectful I’m sorry but not sorry!

Game play that guy no be their mate. Advancement in medicine, rules makes player last longer these days.No player can be Goat, how you wan do am, break records in major leagues, break records in worldcup, nations cup, even messi no playwell pass barca, cr7 even qualified pass am for goat level

Jokerman:


Pele that finished a WC with 10 assists or the Pele that made 3 assists in a WC final??

When you have the best teammates in the history of World cup, you can record 5 assists..

When you have a teammate(Jarzinho) that score in all games of the World cup, you can achieve anything...

Put Pele together with Dante and Jo, let see what he will achieve with them