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Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 6:02pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
LordReed:Are you dodging the question? |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 6:30pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
shadeyinka: You've already said you can't prove god so end of discussion. 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? by malvisguy212: 7:48pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
what if God reveal Himself to a lady ( though privately) Even if the evidence for such encounters is not publicly accessible to the atheists. the theist persuaded about God’s existence through such encounters is warranted in that belief, the atheist can not fairly rule out this possibility. Now what if I am speeding down the highway but not paying attention to the signs ? If the highway patrol stops me, I could not say, “I am innocent ; I did not seen the sign.” My ignorance would be culpable since I have an obligation to pay attention to speed limit signs. I am afraid many people who claim ignorance about God’s existence are more like this. |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 7:52pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
LordReed:I didn't ask you for my opinion. I asked you for yours. Fear of appearing unreasonable is causing you to adopt this evasive technique. Let me refresh you: 1.Let's agree that we currently do not know any method better than the "observables" that can be used for establishing facts about realities. 2. Let's also agree that If God truly exist as the Uncaused First Cause of Everything, He must be beyond our current laws of thermodynamics, logic and mathematics. Then, be truthful: How do you LordReed know that the observables and concepts like logic, entropy and thermodynamics apply beyond our observable universe? Very simple question 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 8:09pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
shadeyinka: Will my answer prove or disprove your god? |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 8:48pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
LordReed:It depends on how intelligent and unfalsifiable your answer is. |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 9:13pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
shadeyinka: At first you said no one can prove or disprove god, now you expect my answer to do just that. If you are confused I am not. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Created God? by kole88(m): 10:12pm On Oct 15, 2019 |
LordReed:I DOUBT IF GOD EXIST BUT BELEIVE THERE IS A A SUPER HUMAN WHO CREATED HUMAN, WHO MAY NOT BEING IN EXISTENCE, HISTORY DESTROYED, FALSE STORY TOLD, NEW IDEALOGY DEVELOP BY THE WICKED HUMANS TO ENSLAVE HUMAN, WHO IS G O D? WHAT IS GOD, WHERE IS GOD, |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 5:55am On Oct 16, 2019 |
LordReed:When did my views start becoming important to you? You asked kole88 a beautiful question: Well the failure will be yours. How do you believe a god that has no verifiable evidence ? ...."Verifiable Evidence" is thus important to you as the "intelligent Yardstick" with which to use in deciding to believe or not to believe. 1.Let's agree that we currently do not know any method better than the "observables" that can be used for establishing facts about realities. 2. Let's also agree that If God truly exist as the Uncaused First Cause of Everything, He must be beyond our current laws of thermodynamics, logic and mathematics. So, How do you LordReed know that the observables and concepts like logic, entropy and thermodynamics apply beyond our observable universe? Very simple question 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 6:05am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka: The question was to you not kole88. Go look at your answer. |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 6:09am On Oct 16, 2019 |
LordReed:Only the fearful would not be able to answer a simple direct question about their beliefs. How do you LordReed know that the observables and concepts like logic, entropy and thermodynamics apply beyond our observable universe? |
Re: Who Created God? by ultimatekint(m): 6:37am On Oct 16, 2019 |
It is simply a waist of time asking for disk kain question. |
Re: Who Created God? by Nobody: 7:02am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka:Spambot (alongside my busy schedule) kept getting me before I could raise down your ridiculous arguments with links to facts. But anyways 1> Atheists do not claim to know anything prior to the universe. Your question is based on a strawman fallacy (not that you care obviously about the dishonest logic you always present to validate your bombast) 2> Christians such as yourself, claim a non-temporal being existing before the universe. Therefore the question is more apt for you lots. 3> There is no need to negate a deity you can demonstrate ZERO evidence for If the over sensitive spambots don't restrict me this time. Hopefully, we can move on from here. |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 7:22am On Oct 16, 2019 |
I ask you not to negate or affirm anything but to answer a plain question XxSabrinaxX:I have not defined Atheism nor what I think Atheists believes. I have only asked a logical question based on just one of the several objections of Atheists. It's not even about my claims it's about you. Let me spread it out for you again: 1.Let's agree that we currently do not know any method better than the "observables" that can be used for establishing facts about realities. 2. Let's also agree that If God truly exist as the Uncaused First Cause of Everything, He must exist beyond our current time and laws of thermodynamics, logic and mathematics. So, How do you Sabrina know that the observables and concepts like logic, entropy and thermodynamics apply beyond our observable universe? Very simple question 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? by Nobody: 8:06am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka:How can I be concerned with this when I've made no claims? This is getting boring fast. Logic without evidence is mental masturbation. You can make all the attestations you want to make. Your three premises about cause and effect were faulty and I kept trying to show links but to no avail. But that's all good. Just for your sake, I'll open a thread to talk about causality, retrocausality, higgs boson, norton's dome etc when the time is ripe Mark this post and have a nice day |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 8:19am On Oct 16, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:I have asked you a question about evidence and not logic. But I understand you well. Why enter the "Truth trap" you can't possibly logically or Scientifically escape from!? But why does the implication of the Truth disturb so much? Is ignorance truely a bliss? |
Re: Who Created God? by Nobody: 8:21am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka:What "Truth" please? He he he. Just cool your horses. I do not have the time I need to do proper justice to your bunkum. Like I said, mark my post. We'll journey down this rabbit hole yet again and I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to miss it for the world ![]() |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 8:22am On Oct 16, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:The Truth is bravely facing the implication of questions asked 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? by Nobody: 8:30am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka:I see no implications based on the fact that you've already admitted unwittingly that only LOGIC and not EVIDENCE can be provided for your god/first cause. And LOGIC is NOT science. Consequently, I having NOTHING to face ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 8:41am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka: You can't manipulate me into answering your questions get that through your skull plate. If all the various answers that have come since the beginning of the thread is not enough for you then I won't oblige you any further answers. |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 8:44am On Oct 16, 2019 |
LordReed:Fear! No problem, You can run off now 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 8:48am On Oct 16, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:If you checked well,the question has nothing to do with my views or what I believe. It is about your views concerning a simple question that has to do with evidence. So, How do you Sabrina know that the observables and concepts like logic, entropy and thermodynamics apply beyond our observable universe? Very simple question. It has nothing to do with logic or even science. It has everything to do with speaking the truth |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 8:50am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka: LMFAO! In your dreams. |
Re: Who Created God? by Nobody: 8:55am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka:My views have been made known to you 5,063 times from the beginning if you had focused on being honest instead of making up word salads and getting us stuck in this ridiculous loop: I do NOT know and I do NOT claim to know. And guess what? Neither do YOU. Like I said, too much talk and/or epistles make me weary. Let's kill this pointless babble for now and wait for the appointed time ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Created God? by shadeyinka(m): 9:09am On Oct 16, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:I assume your answer to your question is: I do NOT know and I do NOT claim to knowDo you then think it makes any sense to dispute Assertively Scientifically against that which our observables are not equipped to grapple with? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? by LordReed(m): 9:10am On Oct 16, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: Let him keep asking questions that have been answered a 1000times already. 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? by Nobody: 9:25am On Oct 16, 2019 |
shadeyinka:Another failed at strawmanning me. LOL. Its really painful watching you lie. Check out my last response to budaatum where I said that "anyone who can conclusively prove or disprove a cause or an eternal universe will win a Nobel Prize". Keep trying to tag me with assertions. Ko le werk ![]() AGAIN, give it a rest shadeyinka. Let's do this some other time. |
Re: Who Created God? by budaatum: 1:21pm On Oct 17, 2019 |
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Re: Who Created God? by MuttleyLaff: 10:10am On Aug 22, 2020 |
Wrong thread |
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