A40:

How many goals did Olivier Giroud and Stephane Guivarch score when France won the World Cup. If all of France's players waited on their strikers to score I'm sure the nation of France would have 0 World Cups

How many clear cut chances did they miss? What stopped Messi from taking bull by the horn as the goat you claim he is?

Go and watch those finals and see the light. Messi scoring in Argentina is just an extra like I said earlier on. Ronaldo has never turned up in any final for Portugal but no one says anything because other players bail him out.

A40:

Yet you were boldly listing Olympics and other inconsequential age grade competitions that nobody cares for either

I then reconsidered and brought up the fact that even in that tournament, Bernado Siva who plays for Portugal was the player of the tournament.

That really tells a lot

Friendly reminder

TLona1:


Go and watch those finals and see the light. Messi scoring in Argentina is just an extra like I said earlier on. Ronaldo has never turned up in any final for Portugal but no one says anything because other players bail him out.

That's right.....Ronaldo isn't the goat and neither is Messi....
If Messi wants to be called the Goat then he has to win a world or even a Copa America.....no matter how you twist,that's a blemish on his achievements/records.

nihilistjnr:


International accolades are what they use to placate losers

5 world cups over the last 20 years and nobody from the winning team has ever won the golden ball

In Messi's case sef, the president of FIFA himself even came out to say the Messi's award was a mistake.

Just to reiterate, Messi getting the consolation hold body prize, that is usually given to one of the losers, was actually as a result of a mistake by the organisers.

Less goals, no trophy, and mistaken identity award

Alaye jor jor jor

Mistake? Debatable, we all saw the surprise on messi’s face that day after receiving the award because he knew someone else deserved it but let Cr7 mistake receive only just Wc golden balloon in that same circumstance , he go hang am for shoulder dey do marketing and PR. He usual line will be
“In my mind I deserved it, I don’t care what anyone else thinks”

TLona1:
Friendly reminder

Wicked you!

You just sucker punched them all with one strike!!

TLona1:
Friendly reminder

Don't ever disrespect De Lima next time. Don't ever drag a god in the debates of Kings. Alaye Jor

Lol

This whole thing is just like comparing 2 footballers pound for pound, and then any small thing you leave their individual numbers and start running to one team trophy that is not even the FIFA World Cup, flexing over a trophy which is far far far from a GOAT-level trophy.

Messi thumps Ronaldo in play making and assists so Ronaldo prides himself with the tag of a super goal scorer, A GOAL MACHINE.

But then the unmasking is done and it feels very awkward for his fan boys;

700 goals in 974 apps.
674 goals in 828 apps.

24 more goals in 146 more games!

Goal Machine!!!



So they abandon all comparisons on individual basis and all scramble to "international trophy"


A SHORT STORY.

Ronaldo plays at Euro 2016 and is superb against Hungary, a country that Is actually very very Hungry, in fact starving on the football scene.

Messi also demolishes the USA.

They both get to the finals; one loses on penalties after 120 minutes and the other basically misses the final but his team mates deliver the goods.

And then certain people are able to conclude from this short story above that one is greater than the other.
As As how now
How is it possible from the above scenario?

Oh Oh Oh, my bad. He cheered his team from the sidelines.
Yeah that's it. He cheered then to victory! He abandoned his boots and picked up a mic.



*A World Cup Golden Ball.
*2 Copa America Golden Balls.
*A Junior World Cup Golden Ball.
*All time top Scorer for Argentina.
*All time top Assist maker for Argentina.

But he's the flop for country.

Someone else who's never had any notable performance in any international tournament but has had his team mates carry him over the line constantly is the GOAT.

Ronaldo fan boys are always trying to take someone's else's crown.

TLona1:
Friendly reminder

Come take your time. Don't ever disrespect De lima next time. You don't drag a god into a debate about Kings.

A40:
He was talking about Champions League Golden Boot

Is that so?

Still not forgotten this;
700 goals in 974 apps.
674 goals in 828 apps.

Would never stop to rub this in.


If this is not a nail in the coffin then what is?

Stay down!

spillo1:

Come take your time. Don't ever disrespect De lima next time. You don't drag a god into a debate about Kings.

It's not disrespect, it's a fact.

Anything in this world can lie except numbers.

kendrick93:

That's right.....Ronaldo isn't the goat and neither is Messi....
If Messi wants to be called the Goat then he has to win a world or even a Copa America.....no matter how you twist,that's a blemish on his achievements/records.

You have to understand that it is not in the 10 commandments of Moses nor the Hadith nor the laws of the land that a player must win an international trophy to be called GOAT.

Messi's honours (team and individual) is already
more than enough for him to be the greatest ever.

Winning an international trophy to attain GOAT height is nothing but a false premise.

ddippset:
Wicked you!

You just sucker punched them all with one strike!!

One playmaker vs two poachers.

Amazing

TLona1:


You have to understand that it is not in the 10 commandments of Moses nor the Hadith nor the laws of the land that a player must win an international trophy to be called GOAT.

Messi's honours (team and individual) is already
more than enough for him to be the greatest ever.

Winning an international trophy to attain GOAT height is nothing but a false premise.

How is it a false premise? The greatest of all times Pele,maradona,etc did it for club and country and those are the people Messi is aiming to overthrow..
The world cup is the biggest football event.....You have to win one to be a Goat or at least dominate by your performances..

kendrick93:
How is it a false premise? The greatest of all times Pele,maradona,etc did it for club and country and those are the people Messi is aiming to overthrow..
The world cup is the biggest football event.....You have to win one to be a Goat or at least dominate by your performances..

When will Ronaldo your goat make it to the finals or dominate to win the golden ball ?

Afobear:


When will Ronaldo your goat make it to the finals or dominate to win the golden ball ?

Assumption is the mother of all feck-ups.....I'm no Ronaldo fanboy and neither do I think he is in the conversation of being the GOAT

kendrick93:
How is it a false premise? The greatest of all times Pele,maradona,etc did it for club and country and those are the people Messi is aiming to overthrow..
The world cup is the biggest football event.....You have to win one to be a Goat or at least dominate by your performances..

Yea I agree but it doesn't always work.

Ramos and Pique are world cup winners, Paolo Maldini isn't


Maradona never won the UCL. Maybe we use it against him also.

TLona1:


It's not disrespect, it's a fact.

Anything in this world can lie except numbers.

So what is your aim of posting it? is it not to show Messi is superior to the Ronaldo's. Again don't drag a god into the discussion of Kings.

TLona1:


One playmaker vs two poachers.
Amazing

Alaye Jor Jor Jor ..... De Lima a poacher? Really how old are you?

TLona1:


Yea I agree but it doesn't always work.

Ramos and Pique are world cup winners, Paolo Maldini isn't


Maradona never won the UCL. Maybe we use it against him also.

Maradonna took his country to 2 world cup final. Their is no argument you can use against him. Again stop bringing gods into arguments about Kings.

spillo1:

Alaye Jor Jor Jor ..... De Lima a poacher? Really how old are you?

I saw everything then. The dribble, pace, feints, agility, finishing etc. But there are times when you have to make some kind of comments to sweeten your narrative.

spillo1:

Maradonna took his country to 2 world cup final. Their is no argument you can use against him.

Messi took his country to 3 straight final. Praise that achievement first before looking into any other thing.

TLona1:




I saw everything then. The dribble, pace, feints, agility, finishing etc. But there are times when you have to make some kind of comments to sweeten your narrative.

Lol now I understand....LMFAO.

Why can ronaldo fans allow us to celebrate messi individual achievement in peace.
Must everything b long episodes.
Una just day recycle the argument

TLona1:



Messi took his country to 3 straight final. Praise that achievement first before looking into any other thing.

Not debating Messi with you. Just stop bringing the O.G's like Maradonna,De lima into an argument between lesser beings.

spillo1:

Maradonna took his country to 2 world cup final. Their is no argument you can use against him.

There is.

He never won the Uefa Champions League even though he tried to.

ddippset:
Lol


Someone else who's never had any notable performance in any international tournament but has had his team mates carry him over the line constantly is the GOAT.

.

Hungary Euro 16

When will Messi have a notable performance AND cross the line?

nihilistjnr:


Hungary Euro 16

When will Messi have a notable performance AND cross the line?

Whenever Ronaldo gets to a world cup final and wins the golden ball by the same mistake.

spillo1:

Not debating Messi with you. Just stop bringing the O.G's like Maradonna,De lima into an argument between lesser beings.

You're only respecting those ones because they've retired a very long time ago.

Statistically, Messi shits on them.

Honorary, Messi still shits on them

Find something else to say abeg.

GrammarNazi1:

There is.

He never won the Uefa Champions League even though he tried to.

We are talking about the world cup here. He took his country to 2 finals back to back. The rest competition can take a back seat.

TLona1:


You have to understand that it is not in the 10 commandments of Moses nor the Hadith nor the laws of the land that a player must win an international trophy to be called GOAT.

Messi's honours (team and individual) is already
more than enough for him to be the greatest ever.

Winning an international trophy to attain GOAT height is nothing but a false premise.

Try telling that to the guy who was crying inside a cupboard at 2am

TLona1:


You're only respecting those ones because they've retired a very long time ago.
Statistically, Messi shits on them.
Honorary, Messi still shits on them
Find something else to say abeg.

See fallacy. Whatever rocks your boat man