spillo1:

Alaye Jor . Focus your energy on telling us how Ronaldinho and Henry are both in your GOAT List lol. See like I told you before you started watching football during the Ronaldinho era.

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See above

afrodoc2:

Henry in a GOAT list?
Boko haram generation.

Lol... Leave the guy.

nihilistjnr:


He brought the same wack argument to our thread and was promptly shut down.

Messi and Ronaldo are above any other footballer that ever did it.

We're talking about niggas with 700+ career goals here

That's 35 goals a season for 20 seasons.

ddippset:
GOAT is not determined by your criteria.

You are entitled to your own list.

But millions of fans beyond the 234 should speak as well.

Millions of people can be wrong too.

See how many people voted for Buhari TWICE

nihilistjnr:

He brought the same wack argument to our thread and was promptly shut down.
Messi and Ronaldo are above any other footballer that ever did it.
We're talking about niggas with 700+ career goals here
That's 35 goals a season for 20 seasons.

Who is this one spewing trash here again.

spillo1:

Who is this one spewing trash here again.

Did you ask this question while looking in a mirror?

afrodoc2:


Henry in a GOAT list?

Boko haram generation.

Forget about number 10.

He's a personal favourite.

Focus on the rest.

nihilistjnr:


Millions of people can be wrong too.

See how many people voted for Buhari TWICE

Haba Nihilist

I put your man on number 3 na


What do you expect of me?

Give him numero uno?

ddippset:
Haba Nihilist

I put your man on number 3 na


What do you expect of me?

Give him numero uno?

Of course.

Say the truth and be healed of your afflictions.

Confess your iniquity

nihilistjnr:


He brought the same wack argument to our thread and was promptly shut down.

Messi and Ronaldo are above any other footballer that ever did it.

We're talking about niggas with 700+ career goals here

That's 35 goals a season for 20 seasons.

Messi and Ronaldo are special no doubt and their achievements are to be respected, however it is marginally easier to get to those numbers in an era in which tackling (especially tackling from behind and sliding tackles) is frowned out, defenders are chosen partly cos off their attacking ability, and part-time traffic wardens like Van Dijk are being lauded as the best thing since fried rice.

Messi and Ronaldo would still have scored goals in the hundreds in the 80s and 90s but most likely just at a slightly slower rate.

afrodoc2:


Messi and Ronaldo are special no doubt and their achievements are to be respected, however it is marginally easier to get to those numbers in an era in which tackling (especially tackling from behind and sliding tackles) is frowned out, defenders are chosen partly cos off their attacking ability, and part-time traffic wardens like Van Dijk are being lauded as the best thing since fried rice.

Messi and Ronaldo would still have scored goals in the hundreds in the 80s and 90s but most likely just at a slightly slower rate.

Marginally easier for who?

Why is nobody coming even remotely close to those numbers even in this easier era?

nihilistjnr:


Marginally easier for who?

Why is nobody coming even remotely close to those numbers even in this easier era?

You are so ignorant it's irritating. This era of moi moi defenders. The sheep you Stan is just the modern day gerd muller.

ddippset:
Forget about number 10.

He's a personal favourite.

Focus on the rest.

He is part of the list you typed now. Do we make GOAT lists based on personal favorites?

So Nihilist can as well write his own top 10 GOAT list and put Muzzy Izzet and Andy Impey because they are personal favorites. Lol

ddippset:
modified
See above

Lol what are you modifying.?

nihilistjnr:


Marginally easier for who?

Why is nobody coming even remotely close to those numbers even in this easier era?

Already said they are special.
If you think the defenders that we have now have the same level of focus and aptitude like those of the 80s and early to mid 90s it just shows how little you followed that era.

Then factor in all the things defenders used to do with impunity back then to gain advantage on the attacker. Things like shirt pulling, slide n scissors tackling, tackling from behind.
Even if ref blew then there possibly would be no card.

afrodoc2:


He is part of the list you typed now. Do we make GOAT lists based on personal favorites?

So Nihilist can as well write his own top 10 GOAT list and put Muzzy Izzet and Andy Impey because they are personal favorites. Lol

1. You are disrespecting Henry.

2. Stop hiding behind my controversial number 10 placement when in actual fact you are mad at my number ONE.

I don play all this kain wayo before when dey primary school.

afrodoc2:


Already said they are special.
If you think the defenders that we have now have the same level of focus and aptitude like those of the 80s and early to mid 90s it just shows how little you followed that era.

Then factor in all the things defenders used to do with impunity back then to gain advantage on the attacker. Things like shirt pulling, slide n scissors tackling, tackling from behind.
Even if ref blew then there possibly would be no card.

The question is;

Since the current generation of defenders are so soft and sissy why are there not 20 or 30 strikers in Europe scoring 60 goals like Messi and Ronaldo?

ddippset:
1. You are disrespecting Henry.

2. Stop hiding behind my controversial number 10 placement when in actual fact you are mad at my number ONE.

I don play all this kain wayo before when dey primary school.

1) Your no 10 has no controversy. It is downright ignorant. Henry is not on that level.
Ask people to teach you about events that happened before your Boko Haram generation.

2) Who are you for me to hide my opinion from you? LOL.

3) I am not mad about your no 1. Messi, Cronaldo, Maradona, Pele are all reasonable candidates for that position. Some might throw in Cruyff or Di Stefano.
I HAVE NO HORSE IN THIS RACE.

spillo1:

You are so ignorant it's irritating. This era of moi moi defenders. The sheep you Stan is just the modern day gerd muller.

It's always surprising how Gerd Muller's name is overlooked when it comes to GOAT
discussions.

ddippset:
The question is;

Since the current generation of defenders are so soft and sissy why are there not 20 or 30 strikers in Europe scoring 60 goals like Messi and Ronaldo?

1) Already said Messi and Cronaldo are special.
Nobody near their level now and all time they are at the top level along with a couple of other players.

2) I just said they would post big numbers in that era too but just not as big as what they are posting now.

3) Question you should ask is this: If the current defenders now focused a bit more on defending , and were allowed to pull shirts, push, tackle from behind, slide tackle etc with little risk of getting carded will the strikers score as many goals ?

You need to go and read a bit more about why GKs were banned from catching back passes and why they changed it to 3 pts for a win instead of 2 pts.

nihilistjnr:


Marginally easier for who?

Why is nobody coming even remotely close to those numbers even in this easier era?

I wonder ooo.

ddippset:
The question is;

Since the current generation of defenders are so soft and sissy why are there not 20 or 30 strikers in Europe scoring 60 goals like Messi and Ronaldo?

I wonder ooo.

Some people are just stupid.

ddippset:
Abi o

That's another valid point.

Defenders are not good and that's why Messi and Ronaldo are scoring 50 to 60 goals.

Oya remove Messi and Ronaldo,

Who else is scoring 50 to 60 goals?

Spillo1 brain never mature to reason that one.

That one is just insular.

ddippset:
Abi o

That's another valid point.

Defenders are not good and that's why Messi and Ronaldo are scoring 50 to 60 goals.

Oya remove Messi and Ronaldo,

Who else is scoring 50 to 60 goals?

Spillo1 brain never mature to reason that one.

Does the fact that Messi has scored a lot of free-kick goals mean that today's goalkeepers are mediocre too?

afrodoc2:


1) Your no 10 has no controversy. It is downright ignorant. Henry is not on that level.
Ask people to teach you about events that happened before your Boko Haram generation.

2) Who are you for me to hide my opinion from you? LOL.

3) I am not mad about your no 1. Messi, Cronaldo, Maradona, Pele are all reasonable candidates for that position. Some might throw in Cruyff or Di Stefano.
I HAVE NO HORSE IN THIS RACE.

It's a taboo to mention arguably the premier league's greatest ever player cannot be mentioned in the top 10

Henry isn't that useless.


Saying Henry cannot be in a top 10 list is nothing but your personal opinion.


I put it to you that you are mad at my number ONE.
Stop covering up with my number 10.

Otherwise carry your keyboard and type your own instead of crying over mine.

ddippset:
It's a taboo to mention arguably the premier league's greatest ever player cannot be mentioned in the top 10

Henry isn't that useless.


Saying Henry cannot be in a top 10 list is nothing but your personal opinion.


I put it to you that you are mad at my number ONE.
Stop covering up with my number 10.

Otherwise carry your keyboard and type your own instead of crying over mine.

I put it to you that you are a boko haram generation and deeply ignorant to put Henry in a top 10 GOAT list.

P.S I was laughing at your list not crying.

ddippset:
It's a taboo to mention arguably the premier league's greatest ever player cannot be mentioned in the top 10

Henry isn't that useless.


Saying Henry cannot be in a top 10 list is nothing but your personal opinion.


I put it to you that you are mad at my number ONE.
Stop covering up with my number 10.

Otherwise carry your keyboard and type your own instead of crying over mine.

Henry won't even make it into top 10 in his position of all time. Stop being naive.

afrodoc2:


Henry in a GOAT list?

Boko haram generation.

See as I just dey read dey smile Henry ko Jamiu ni

ddippset:
1. You are disrespecting Henry.

To say the truth, Henry invented the art of choking

raumdeuter:


See as I just dey read dey smile Henry ko Jamiu ni

Boko Haram generation don flood Nairaland.

afrodoc2:


3) Question you should ask is this: If the current defenders now focused a bit more on defending , and were allowed to pull shirts, push, tackle from behind, slide tackle etc with little risk of getting carded will the strikers score as many goals ?
.

Maybe not, but will this reduce the gulf in output between mororo and the rest?

It's not as if we never watched some of those historical games, even i was to young to watch them live

Sometimes you watch highlights from that era and you will see the likes of Pele will stand in one place for 30 seconds and the defender will be there just staring at him.

Defenders these days are much more fitter and more tactical in this era than they ever have been in history.

Hear Roberto Carlos here

The Brazilian defender, now Real Madrid ambassador and commentator at Real Madrid TV, spoke about some of the rules they imposed to the managers.

Vicente del Bosque, the most successful one and winner of two Champions League, is the best, according to Roberto Carlos: “We didn’t need rules. The player knows what to do. He understood us perfectly.

Monday trainings sessions were at 17:00, and sometimes also Tuesday. He didn’t schedule them at 11:00, because almost nobody arrived on time”, the Brazilian said.

Vanderlei Luxemburgo wasn’t very lucky at Real Madrid as he was sacked only few months after his arrival.

These are some keys of what happened: “In the second game in La Liga, after arriving to the hotel, we were used to leave the luggage and have a beer or a glass of wine.

On the table there were always two bottles of wine. Ronaldo and I told him ‘Professor, people here has their habits, you’ll see them, but try not to change them. Do not remove the wine bottles or the beers before the dinner because we will have problem.

What did he do? First, he removed the beers and then the bottles of wine. He stayed three months”.

Imagine drinking two bottles of wine before a game.

Moyes only removed Ketchup and the players went mad.

These drunkards were drinking 2 bottles of wine pre-match, and resuming for Monday training by 5pm in the evening.

Yes, the rules were more lenient those days, but those attackers weren't fit.

How do you want to run away from a defender with Potbelly? That's how we saw DeLima at Milan looking like a baby elephant

Those chain smoking red eyed defenders would not be able to come anywhere close to current 33 year old Ororo, let alone Ororo in his peak.

The only thing I will say is that the risk of serious injury was higher in that era....but if you're talking defensive skill, outside of less than 3 Italian names who were themselves equivalent to the Messi/Ororo of defending, nobody is touching those two bros

Infact, they would be scoring more Gaan

afrodoc2:


I put it to you that you are a boko haram generation and deeply ignorant to put Henry in a top 10 GOAT list.

P.S I was laughing at your list not crying.

You shouldn't keep on having erection over my list na.

It's so easy to make yours, do that and stop wailing.

Shuoooo!

Where this one come from?