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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by slegend(m): 11:01am On Oct 23, 2019
Humility017:


sir you mean indigenous coaches like imama? ??
c'mon Rohr is miles ahead of that guy .

in transparency and even tactically.

rohr have been slightly fair like 60-70% in players selection I doubt we'll ever achieve that with an indigenous coach
Seconded
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by slegend(m): 11:04am On Oct 23, 2019
Humility017:

I later said any tactical foreign coach..... will do better
okay But must understand African football with experience,not just one European dude.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:13am On Oct 23, 2019
witorwitoutyou:



MR TWO MOUTH FOREIGN ASS LICKERS WELDONE...ALWAYS CHANGING MOUTH..LET US WIN ANODA MATCH NOW,THIS MR TWO MOUTH WILL SING ROHR PRAISES TO HEAVEN.

You know the guy grin

He has no stance, he waits for people to think up things then he goes with the wave, when another group of thought arises he joins them

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:14am On Oct 23, 2019
slegend:

okay
But must understand African football with experience,not just one European dude.

yeah...you're right.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:17am On Oct 23, 2019
tbaba1234:


Nigeria has an under 13 and under 15 program, already. What you are proposing will not go far enough.

The most important thing to do for the development of local talents is having professionally run football teams in our league.

Imagine if all the league teams have well coached/structured academies. You will kill age cheating and export good talent.

Alternatively, we can establish a national under 16 league with players required to pass MRI tests and show their school certificates.

This can be done zonally and then a super 6 in Abuja or Uyo.

Talents from across the country will be found and it will even help national team coaches.




exactly we can start from there..... but the problem lies in the fact...that this indigenous coaches and football administrators will barely engage in any programs where money does not grease palms...
and more over we have a bad maintenance culture in this country... starting this programs is not the problem but continuation is the issue at astake

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Toylove: 11:18am On Oct 23, 2019
komekn:


First of all you need to update your approach.

Globalisation has changed everything, that's why we have a brain drain in nearly every field of endeavour.

The modern approach is not necessarily competition but synergy. In otherwords how can we take advantage of strategic partnerships and cooperative agreements to create value for ourselves.

The sole responsibility for football development does not rest with the NFF. It's a partnership with local league and football clubs working in unison. In this regard the NFF is an enabler creating the framework and support to enhance football development. They can not do it by themselves.

In England as it is across Europe what you have is the local grass root youth teams from age 5/6. These teams are administered by the local county FA 's, who are in turn supported but not necessarily controlled and or Financed by the FA.

These local teams are the nursery farms from which the best seedlings ( young infant players) are selected to different football academies across the league system in England.

The EPL clubs generally attracting the cream of the crop.

This is where in general talent and potential are nurtured, developed and trained to become top professional players.

The Nigerian league system does not collectively and comprehensively seek out young youthful talents for thier academies to graduate to first team football.

In the past thier were football competitions from high school level from where the best talents were selected. That level went right to local villages and local government areas before proceeding to the finals. That system seems to have died in Nigeria. But unfortunately without a any alternative to take up the gaps.

What we have instead is a plethora of football academies of differing quality some very very poor and some good. but the entire motivation of the privately owned academies is to make money by selling these players to Europe based teams. And they have positioned themselves in the gap.

That business model is underpined with slave contracts, TPI and age cheating.

Until there is a partnership with a collective vision not based on quick profit and treating players as commodities. We will remain where we are.

That partnership will start with village primary and secondary schools, proceed to local government capitals and state capitals.

This is why in times past the former Bendel state was ruling football in Nigeria for many years particularly at youth level. The partnership of grass roots football through school competitions that were well funded by the state governments not the NFA at the time.

Until there is buy in too strategic partnering with the LGA, State government to institute and organise a well funded structure through school competitions to enhance football development. Which the NFF has to facilitate and support,, we will REMAIN where we are.

That's the foundation before we even begin to look at our local league NPFL that seems to be dead on its feet. Poorly funded and patronised. As a consequence they local professional football clubs in Nigeria seem to play lip service to youth football development in thier academies.

Well said bro. Well said!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 11:23am On Oct 23, 2019
Manchester United will buy Osimeh January


Watch out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 11:26am On Oct 23, 2019
Samueltemi337:
Manchester United will buy Osimeh January



Watch out

Well, he fits the coach's profile of Young and talented potential . But he did not meet up with one important criteria, which is he's not British grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:04pm On Oct 23, 2019
timay:


Well, he fits the coach's profile of Young and talented potential . But he did not meet up with one important criteria, which is he's not British grin

That british part you said is the real fact

Osimhen issa complete talent

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 12:18pm On Oct 23, 2019
andrew444:


That british part you said is the real fact

Osimhen issa complete talent

But of Man utd get sense, they can still buy him in January for less than 40million .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:21pm On Oct 23, 2019
timay:


But of Man utd get sense, they can still buy him in January for less than 40million .

Am not sure they wanna or will even buy

If that boy ends up with 18 or 20 goals lille will sell for more than 40 as you are already suggesting
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:03pm On Oct 23, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Even if Rohr invites the right people, his poor tactical play will inhibit their potentials. See how Osimhen was at the AFCON.

We need thorough overhaul of our system. Unfortunately, I doubt Rohr has the knowledge to meet up tactically with the modern game.

His negative tactics even hinders his selection. That is why he preferred Shehu to Ebuehi.
Oga, you don start o undecided He played just 45 min so how was he?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chidi1: 1:28pm On Oct 23, 2019
PurpleHouse:
The first and only thing Rohr thinks of, is Defence, Defence, Defence. I mean, what happens to ATTACKING the enemy?

He only plays to hit the enemy at the counter while soaking in the pressure. Reason why we always conceded goals.

We have a bursting attacking minded young lads, fast wingers, skillful legs in Iwobi and Aribo, great defensive legs who can push forward in Aina and Ebuehi, yet all we do is wait for the enemy to attack and then counter.

This is a perfect way to waste your potentials. ���

There is a saying that goes thus "offense sells tickets while defense wins games." My dear playing to the gallery gets you no were in football. Moreover, a quality needed by a good coach is the ability to adjust your tactics based on your opponent and circumstance you find your self in. It would be suicidal for Nigeria to go all offensive on a team like Brazil and Ukraine(while playing at home). This is particularly important when you do not have a full compliment of your trusted regulars and are trying out new players for the first time. My dear Rohr has his many faults but this decision is not one of them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:43pm On Oct 23, 2019
chidi1:


There is a saying that goes thus "offense buys tickets while defense wins games." My dear playing to the gallery gets you no were in football. Moreover, a quality needed by a good coach is the ability to adjust your tactics based on your opponent and circumstance you find your self in. It would be suicidal for Nigeria to go all offensive on a team like Brazil and Ukraine(while playing at home). This is particularly important when you do not have a full compliment of your trusted regulars and are trying out new players for the first time. My dear Rohr has his many faults but this decision is not one of them.

Nigerians don't know what they want, if he had gone offensive against Brazil and was hammered 5:0 the same people would be saying 'why didn't he have a good defense, why should we be beaten 5:0 by Brazil'

When I read their comments and I remember they're not in charge of the NFF I just thank God

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iSlayer: 1:43pm On Oct 23, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
He should have used his right. In such situations where the ball is coming from the left you use your right foot because it in a far better position and balance to steer the ball towards goal with the first touch.


Shows Pepe is not that experienced and lack some shooting intelligence.


Exactly.


I'm of the opinion he'll come good though. Pepe is a good player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick93(m): 1:47pm On Oct 23, 2019
timay:


But of Man utd get sense, they can still buy him in January for less than 40million .
he will be a flop just like Pepe at arsenal is right now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick93(m): 1:55pm On Oct 23, 2019
chidi1:


There is a saying that goes thus "offense buys tickets while defense wins games." My dear playing to the gallery gets you no were in football. Moreover, a quality needed by a good coach is the ability to adjust your tactics based on your opponent and circumstance you find your self in. It would be suicidal for Nigeria to go all offensive on a team like Brazil and Ukraine(while playing at home). This is particularly important when you do not have a full compliment of your trusted regulars and are trying out new players for the first time. My dear Rohr has his many faults but this decision is not one of them.
A Nigerian team should always be offensive minded....that's the Nigerian football culture,thatz our DNA.....
With all this supposed defending and he still won't win the world cup, infact they couldn't win the Afcon yet you are talking as if we are witnessing a defensive masterclass....
I will rather lose (5-3etc) by playing attacking football than defending and still come out with nothing...at least you will be entertained....
The 94 team were loved not because they were world conquerors but because their brand of football was exciting...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:07pm On Oct 23, 2019
Eeeyah! kiss
TheGoodJoe:


Did you read develop football in Nigeria?

The under 17 is minute to the kind of exports we could have if we focused on correcting the ills in our local football.

By the way, Rohr is not doing anything special that an indigenous coach wouldn't have done. He is just overhyped because he is white.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:41pm On Oct 23, 2019
Eartquake1:


Nigerians don't know what they want, if he had gone offensive against Brazil and was hammered 5:0 the same people would be saying 'why didn't he have a good defense, why should we be beaten 5:0 by Brazil'

When I read their comments and I remember they're not in charge of the NFF I just thank God
'Attacking coaches like SiaSia, Amunike, Imama' yen yen yen. Two times Siasia failed to get us to Afcon, Amunike couldn't make U-20 afcon loosing to Sudan right here in Nigeria, no need to talk about Imama

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:42pm On Oct 23, 2019
kendrick93:
A Nigerian team should always be offensive minded....that's the Nigerian football culture,thatz our DNA.....
With all this supposed defending and he still won't win the world cup, infact they couldn't win the Afcon yet you are talking as if we are witnessing a defensive masterclass....
I will rather lose (5-3etc) by playing attacking football than defending and still come out with nothing...at least you will be entertained....
The 94 team were loved not because they were world conquerors but because their brand of football was exciting...
LMAO, I can bet you are a Man Utd fan na this kain thinking go make them hire Ole
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:42pm On Oct 23, 2019
jihday:
'Attacking coaches like SiaSia, Amunike, Imama' yen yen yen. Two times Siasia failed to get us to Afcon, Amunike couldn't make U-20 afcon loosing to Sudan right here in Nigeria, no need to talk about Imama

You forgot Sanusi that is like Guardiola according to Humility017 grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:44pm On Oct 23, 2019
Eartquake1:


You forgot Sanusi that is like Guardiola according to Humility017 grin
Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick93(m): 2:44pm On Oct 23, 2019
jihday:
LMAO, I can bet you are a Man Utd fan na this kain thinking go make them hire Ole
can never be a man U fan......
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sdmtavern: 3:03pm On Oct 23, 2019
kendrick93:
can never be a man U fan......

Guardiola is playing attacking football and he is winning trophies. In fact, he is playing attacking, technical football in a so called physical league and proving everybody wrong.
Besides there is a difference between defending well and playing defensive football. They are two different things that people confuse together.
Attacking football with a good defense and strikers that convert chances works

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kendrick93(m): 3:13pm On Oct 23, 2019
sdmtavern:


Guardiola is playing attacking football and he is winning trophies. In fact, he is playing attacking, technical football in a so called physical league and proving everybody wrong.
Besides there is a difference between defending well and playing defensive football. They are two different things that people confuse together.
Attacking football with a good defense and strikers that convert chances works
you are quoting the wrong post
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chidi1: 3:18pm On Oct 23, 2019
sdmtavern:


Guardiola is playing attacking football and he is winning trophies. In fact, he is playing attacking, technical football in a so called physical league and proving everybody wrong.
Besides there is a difference between defending well and playing defensive football. They are two different things that people confuse together.
Attacking football with a good defense and strikers that convert chances works

My friend you work with what you have. Using your anology, would Guardiola use the same offensive mindset if he was the manager to Shaffield United? We do not have world class players like we had in 1994. Players we have now are younger, faster and more suited for quick counter attacks. Until we get dependable, consistent midfielders that can work in tight spaces, I think Rohr should continue with team his build up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 3:28pm On Oct 23, 2019
sdmtavern:


Guardiola is playing attacking football and he is winning trophies. In fact, he is playing attacking, technical football in a so called physical league and proving everybody wrong.
Besides there is a difference between defending well and playing defensive football. They are two different things that people confuse together.
Attacking football with a good defense and strikers that convert chances works
In his first season before he spent 500mill pounds didn't he chop beating like Seun Egbegbe? He struggled to make top 4. So using club football to compare NT is a no-no

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:54pm On Oct 23, 2019
Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that the oldest player in the Golden Eaglets squad Olakunle Olusegun is attracting interest from top European clubs even before a ball is kicked at the 2019 FIFA U17 World Cup.

This website can exclusively report that the Nigeria U17 goal machine traveled to Russia about three months ago for contract talks with an unnamed club in the country.

Spanish La Liga side Atlético de Madrid are one of the clubs showing interest in the striker ahead of the tournament in Brazil.

Premier League champions Manchester City are also keen on the ABS Ilorin teen sensation, who won the Golden Boot at the WAFU-UFOA B qualifiers with four goals and netted the winner against Angola in the group stage of the U17 AFCON.

Scouts representing the Citizens were expected in Nigeria to check the progress of Olusegun after the U17 AFCON but eventually did not show up, and it is believed they will monitor him during the World Cup.

The 17-year-old is aiming to become the fourth Nigerian player to win the Golden Boot at the U17 World Cup after Wilson Oruma, Macauley Chrisantus and Victor Osimhen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 3:54pm On Oct 23, 2019
chidi1:


My friend you work with what you have. Using your anology, would Guardiola use the same offensive mindset if he was the manager to Shaffield United? We do not have world class players like we had in 1994. Players we have now are younger, faster and more suited for quick counter attacks. Until we get dependable, consistent midfielders that can work in tight spaces, I think Rohr should continue with team his build up.
Same way Chelsea team is younger, faster and less experienced but they don't rely on counter but play explosive footbal not minding the opponents. They will only fail a few times and get better. There is no gain in cowardice. Even bible said " Be anxious for nothing". Express yourself, you might fail a few times but you would be to sure learn and get better. I can never be a fan of Rohr's Conservative football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:55pm On Oct 23, 2019
Valencia defender Mouctar Diakhaby faced the cameras ahead of Wednesday evening's Champions League match against Lille and one of the subjects he touched on was the form of Victor Osimhen.

Just over two months after the start of the 2019-2020 season, the Nigeria national-teamer has scored 7 goals in the Ligue 1 and one more in the Champions League which he netted against Chelsea on matchday two.

Asked what he expects from Osimhen in today's game, Diakhaby told reporters at the pre-match press conference : ''I have watched Lille's matches and I have friends on the team.

''He is a great player. He has quality and speed. We have to defend well, but Lille also has other great players that must also be watched''.

Lille are without a point after two matches in Group H of the Champions League following losses to Ajax Amsterdam and Chelsea while Valencia have three points.

Osimhen has been an ever-present in Lille's starting line-up in the Champions League so far this season and is set to make his third start against Los Ches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:01pm On Oct 23, 2019
chidi1:


My friend you work with what you have. Using your anology, would Guardiola use the same offensive mindset if he was the manager to Shaffield United? We do not have world class players like we had in 1994. Players we have now are younger, faster and more suited for quick counter attacks. Until we get dependable, consistent midfielders that can work in tight spaces, I think Rohr should continue with team his build up.

Bro you deserve this

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:02pm On Oct 23, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Valencia defender Mouctar Diakhaby faced the cameras ahead of Wednesday evening's Champions League match against Lille and one of the subjects he touched on was the form of Victor Osimhen.

Just over two months after the start of the 2019-2020 season, the Nigeria national-teamer has scored 7 goals in the Ligue 1 and one more in the Champions League which he netted against Chelsea on matchday two.

Asked what he expects from Osimhen in today's game, Diakhaby told reporters at the pre-match press conference : ''I have watched Lille's matches and I have friends on the team.

''He is a great player. He has quality and speed. We have to defend well, but Lille also has other great players that must also be watched''.

Lille are without a point after two matches in Group H of the Champions League following losses to Ajax Amsterdam and Chelsea while Valencia have three points.

Osimhen has been an ever-present in Lille's starting line-up in the Champions League so far this season and is set to make his third start against Los Ches.

Lille players are relying too much on Osimhen for goals

They have to start chipping in their own

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