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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:01pm On Oct 24, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:09pm On Oct 24, 2019
CAS HOLDS THIRD QUARTER INTERACTIVE MEETING WITH AWOs, RSMs, CHARGES THEM ON DISCIPLINE, INNOVATIVENESS

As part of efforts to further enhance professionalism and efficient service delivery through sustained discipline and regimentation, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF), today, 23 October 2019, held its Third Quarter Interactive Meeting of the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) with Air Warrant Officers (AWOs) and Regimental Sergeant Majors (RSMs) of all NAF Units and tri-Service Formations and Institutions. The quarterly retreat, which held at the Headquarters NAF Abuja, provides a forum for interactions aimed at consolidating on the existing smooth working relations between the NAF leadership and all ranks within the Service for enhanced operational effectiveness and efficiency.

In his remarks during the meeting, the CAS, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, reminded the AWOs and RSMs, who are the link between the Officers’ Cadre and the Other Ranks, to remain loyal and impartial in the discharge of their responsibilities. He enjoined them to always give necessary feedback to their Commanders with a view to enhancing policy implementation as well as consolidating on the advancement of the Service. He also laid emphasis on the expected roles of the AWOs and RSMs in promoting regimentation and discipline, urging them to continue to give their best to ensure that the NAF remains the pride of all Nigerians.

The CAS also encouraged the AWOs and RSMs to be innovative in the area of Research and Development (R&D), noting that the NAF had intensified efforts to produce locally-made spares and other related equipment in a bid to address the challenges associated with spares procurement from other countries. While speaking on personnel welfare, Air Marshal Abubakar added that the NAF would not relent in ensuring that its personnel were properly accommodated and provided with the requisite equipment to do their jobs effectively. He reiterated that the Interactive Session was part of the NAF Leadership’s deliberate bottom-up approach towards facilitating continuous feedback from personnel of the Service, to ensure that the Leadership consistently takes the best decisions.

During the interactive session, the AWOs and RSMs took turns to brief the CAS on activities in their various Areas of Responsibility. The briefs mostly focused on suggestions to improve operational effectiveness and efficiency as well as matters pertaining to general welfare. The AWOs and RSMs also commended the CAS for creating the enabling environment for women to thrive in the Service as evidenced by the recent winging of the first female fighter pilot and helicopter pilot in the NAF, promotion of the first woman to the enviable rank of AWO as well as the reversion of the Air Force Girls’ Comprehensive School (AFGCS) in Jos back to Air Force Girls’ Military School (AFGMS). A lecture on “NAF Policy on Civil Military Relations” had earlier been delivered by the Director of Civil Military Relations, Air Commodore David Aluku.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:15pm On Oct 24, 2019
Toju200:
CAS HOSTS PRESIDENT AIRBUS AFRICA, URGES GREATER SUPPORT FOR AIRCRAFT, EQUIPMENT SERVICEABILITY

The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, has urged Airbus Africa & Middle East to improve its maintenance and logistical support to the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) in the areas of training and prompt provision of spares in order to better serve the NAF in its efforts at dealing with the security challenges confronting the Nation. The CAS made this known today, 23 October 2019, while receiving the President Airbus Africa & Middle East, Mr Mikail Houari, and other executives of the Company on a courtesy visit at Headquarters NAF Abuja.



Images from the event; check out the drone models on the COAS conference table.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 12:15pm On Oct 24, 2019
Jimi24:


You are getting this very wrong. First of all, as said before and someone also repeated, "in the trench with us " merely means something like "the choppers would be parked inside the Super Camp under NA control.

Pls what is this one about comparing a single incident involving a company of US troops trapped inside a built up area inside a densely populated city in Somalia with Nigeria Army's current context of aggressive patrols from Super Camps, hunting and killing the enemy and denying them territory over wide sparsely populated areas.

Kindly understand our problem statement before distracting the authorities with poor advice who have been trying to bring the war to a quick close. Choppers have been fairly effective against BHT but the NA needs more stand off missiles.

You are correct about long range detection of attacks on camps but some of the recent haul of weapons Nigeria Army received recently were GROUND RADARS capable of more than 20km detection of hostiles and many other electro optical observation equipment.

Lets us not distract the NA. Aggressive patrols on land backed by choppers will destroy ISWAP. If we can keep just 10 choppers and 5 aircraft in the air for two months waoiling and kiling, ISWAP would be dead

Broz, a few 5 ground radars for 100 FOBs, air bases and barracks? How enough Broz? Radar is wrong, NA need thermal imagers like these green colors, to detect and I.D. approaching BHT vehicles and foot men 10 to 20 km away, radars don't identify friend or foe. It's only those who don't understand war that an army General can confuse because he was shouting. Me too I shout when I lecture in classroom grin

You are asking 15 aircraft for NA when NAF uses over 100 aircraft and started shouting air power alone cannot win this war?

Let Senate transfer to NA aviation all 6 armed Agusta NAF ordered newly and let army see practical of operating aircraft, they overestimate capability of air power. How many Super Camps in N.E. land bigger than Liberia? 15 aircraft can only defend limited areas near super camp, ISWAP will rampage freely beyond range of small helicopters, you forget limited range, endurance flight hours, horrible maintenance wahala in sandy dusty army base limiting helo operational availability? Its time for Nigerians in the know to tell NA what to do, we allowed them free decision for 10 years, they keep buying wrong type of vehicles and use DSHK to fight KPV, they do wrong things expecting right result.

Its my view, we can freely agree to disagree. Am just tired of wrong decisions.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:17pm On Oct 24, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 12:28pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
bros he didn't mean it literarily when he said the helos will be in the trenches with them, he ment that they will be at their bec and call 24/7. Bottom line is that the army needs helos bro. Somalia was an urban theater it's different from what we have in the North East pls.

No air fleet flies at bec and call 24/7 its impossible, they are limited by service availability percentage due to down time for maintenance and shut downs.

My man I get it too, but super camp is a trench of large size, frontline is frontline. NAF already has frontline air bases for years closest as possible to battlefields. You said North East Nigeria is not urban theatre like Somalia? Sorry, are you a Nigeria at all grin So all 10 million people of N.E. live inside open empty sand desert? Maiduguri has no urban houses? You guys fit cause laughter on dis platform, no wonder somebody use uniform rank to confuse you easily grin No vex o, we free to disagree my bruz.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 12:50pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


My man I get it too, but super camp is a trench of large size, frontline is frontline. You said North East Nigeria is not urban theatre like Somalia? Sorry, are you a Nigeria at all grin So all 10 million people of N.E. live inside open empty sand desert? Maiduguri has no urban houses? You guys fit cause laughter on dis platform, no wonder somebody use uniform rank to confuse you easily grin No vex o, we free to disagree my bruz.
let the army employ air assets oga, you seem to underestimate the power of army aviation o SMH. Me I still stand with the army getting helos, you seem to forget that most ISWAP attacks that overrun FOB's occur over the night for long periods of time without support from airforce air assets with army helos these situations will be far from what we have now and pls the airforce has limited air assets deployed in the N.E lol no dey exaggerate abeg grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 12:57pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
let the army employ air assets oga, you seem to underestimate the power of army aviation o SMH. Me I still stand with the army getting helos, you seem to forget that most ISWAP attacks that overrun FOB's occur over the night for long periods of time without support from airforce air assets with army helos these situations will be far from what we have now and pls the airforce has limited air assets deployed in the N.E lol no dey exaggerate abeg grin

I have agreed boss, I said give NA the NAFs 6 new armed Agusta to see practical. I dont underestimate air power, I lecture its strategic benefit in school, just saying if 100 cannot win for 10 years 115 birds cannot win. ISIS was defeated by land forces not army aviation, thats another practical lesson my bruz.

Me, I no be senator, I cannot stop army getting helicopters, NA already ordered 3 AS 350 helicopters from France and paid first deposit. Its a done deal already, lets see what happens when NA aviation helos enter frontline service.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 1:07pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


I have agreed boss, I said give NA the NAFs 6 new armed Agusta to see practical. I dont underestimate air power, I lecture its strategic benefit in school, just saying if 100 cannot win for 10 years 115 birds cannot win. ISIS was defeated by land forces not army aviation, thats another practical lesson my bruz.
read about Iraqi army aviation and their employment in the capture of mosul and see practical example of the effectiveness of army aviation ya

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 1:26pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
read about Iraqi army aviation and their employment in the capture of mosul and see practical example of the effectiveness of army aviation ya

The blood of 2,000 KIA Kurdish fighters and 10,000 WIA, defeated ISIS, not Iraqi army aviation. Helicopters will help but not the winning tool. We all read about it, and experts who witnessed the war tell the world that Kurdish men on ground were main key to victory over ISIS not helicopters.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 1:34pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


The blood of 2,000 KIA Kurdish fighters and 10,000 WIA, defeated ISIS, not Iraqi army aviation. Helicopters will help but not the winning tool. We all read about that war, experts who witnessed the war tell the world Kurdish men on ground were main key to victory over ISIS not helicopters.
my point exactly they will "help" a great deal!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 1:38pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
my point exactly they will "help" a great deal!

Bruz but NA says helicopters will win the war and finally finish Boko Haram.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 1:40pm On Oct 24, 2019
Jimi24:


Yes. Cameroon would by Pantsir for just one reason although they lied by saying it was because of Boko Haram.
They are buying it because Nigeria is getting JF 17Block 2 and possibly SU 30s.
Even if it's because of Us I don't think the Pantsir will be enough to possibly stop the JF17. just saying grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 1:43pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


Bruz but NA says helicopters will win the war and finally finish Boko Haram.
shitty talk! But dey deserve air assets
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 3:00pm On Oct 24, 2019
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by shadowprimezero: 3:46pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
Nigeria To Buy 12 Attack Helicopters From Russia
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailysabah.com/defense/2019/10/24/russia-lands-bombers-in-south-africa-sells-helicopters-to-nigeria/amp

That was Nigér and not Nigeria. The reporter probably confused the two countries.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 3:47pm On Oct 24, 2019
shadowprimezero:


That was Nigér and not Nigeria. The reporter probably confused the two countries.
for real?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 4:33pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
Nigeria To Buy 12 Attack Helicopters From Russia
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailysabah.com/defense/2019/10/24/russia-lands-bombers-in-south-africa-sells-helicopters-to-nigeria/amp
I knew it was not Nigeria cos I was wondering 12mi35 again...
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by shadowprimezero: 4:39pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
for real?

Yeah, Nigeria's FM is Jeffrey Onyema and NOT Kalla Ankourao who is his Nigérien counterpart. All the same, this will be of major added benefit to the MNJTF
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 4:52pm On Oct 24, 2019
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 4:54pm On Oct 24, 2019
Augustine on the loose again
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 4:58pm On Oct 24, 2019
oyinpr:
the airforce has limited air assets deployed in the N.E lol no dey exaggerate abeg grin

Bruz you dont know? Its not exaggeration, NAF has 70 helos 30 jets fleet. 50 Mi-24 n 35, 20 Puma, Agusta, Eurocopter, 30 Alpha, F-7, L-39, let's say 100 NAF combat aircraft to use on BH ISW.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 5:07pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


Bruz you dont know? Its no exaggeration, NAF has 70 helos 30 jets fleet.

50 Mi-24 n 35
20 Puma, Agusta, Eurocopter
30 Alpha, F-7, L-39

Estimated 100 NAF combat aircraft to use on BH ISW.
cheesy grin grin
I know you also don't believe all these, you just want attention.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by pacretus(m): 5:25pm On Oct 24, 2019
Heard a chilling story few days ago from a priest.
I guess he is a chaplain. According to him, they were heading somewhere in a borno village when they noticed the Bush ahead was wavering without wind. So they decided to lie low and send an empty hilux ahead of them.
Immediately the vehicle got to the spot many bokoharam boys pounced on the car firing on it. With that they were able to kill every single one of them. Not one BH soul escaped. It was a total victory for the army..
Many stories will go unheard in this war.Godbless and preserve our soldiers.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 5:36pm On Oct 24, 2019
pacretus:
Heard a chilling story few days ago from a priest.
I guess he is a chaplain. According to him, they were heading somewhere in a borno village when they noticed the Bush ahead was wavering without wind. So they decided to lie low and send an empty hilux ahead of them.
Immediately the vehicle got to the spot many bokoharam boys pounced on the car firing on it. With that they were able to kill every single one of them. Not one BH soul escaped. It was a total victory for the army..
Many stories will go unheard in this war.Godbless and preserve our soldiers.
the priest is a soldier?
Not everything is reported in a war scene
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by pacretus(m): 6:17pm On Oct 24, 2019
seankafor:
the priest is a soldier?
Not everything is reported in a war scene
yes he is. A chaplain and they also handle weapons
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 6:21pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


Bruz you dont know? Its not exaggeration, NAF has 70 helos 30 jets fleet. 50 Mi-24 n 35, 20 Puma, Agusta, Eurocopter, 30 Alpha, F-7, L-39, let's say 100 NAF combat aircraft to use on BH ISW.
oga na AFIT I go so relax when we dey talk about airforce I've seen it all, I've got buddies that fly both fighter jets and attack helos so no even come dey talk about actually numbers of platforms abeg no go there lol
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jimi24: 7:45pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


Bruz you dont know? Its not exaggeration, NAF has 70 helos 30 jets fleet. 50 Mi-24 n 35, 20 Puma, Agusta, Eurocopter, 30 Alpha, F-7, L-39, let's say 100 NAF combat aircraft to use on BH ISW.

The real helicopter gunships are not up to 70. Nigeria had about 12 to 34 A109s doing nothing but utility for many years.
MI 24/35P/35M not all in active service.
I agree we should be using a lot of L-39s in the daytime. F7NI is useless on the battle field only good for destroying bases

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:39pm On Oct 24, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


Bruz you dont know? Its not exaggeration, NAF has 70 helos 30 jets fleet. 50 Mi-24 n 35, 20 Puma, Agusta, Eurocopter, 30 Alpha, F-7, L-39, let's say 100 NAF combat aircraft to use on BH ISW.
I see a lot of inaccurate figures

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 10:44pm On Oct 24, 2019
https://dailytimes.com.pk/483898/pakistan-to-export-jf-17-thunder-fighter-jets-to-4-countries/

Myanmar has already purchased four thunder jets through Chinese assistance. Pakistan also plans to export JF-17 to Malaysia and Azerbaijan as well as additional fighter jets to Nigeria, which now has three JF-17s, as per the sources.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 10:45pm On Oct 24, 2019
Have or expecting.
I guess we get cloaking tech on our jf's grin

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