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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 1:20pm On Oct 25, 2019
RabbiDoracle:


Hmmm... Thanks for the clarification. The error was from Oak.

If it was 30M units, then @Oak is right in the over 1m USD.

Oh... don't mention bro !! cool
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Coolcash1: 1:33pm On Oct 25, 2019
Agbalowomeri:


Now I know where the problem lies
You never moved on from your secondary school bubble
Welcome to the real world
I bet you, you wouldn't want to hear about some people's academic prowess here Lol
But they grew beyond that 'inflated' ego grin

The guy is very distasteful and stinks of arrogance, pride and egoism...I detest people with such haughty, exasperating and condescending attitude.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Coolcash1: 1:36pm On Oct 25, 2019
onegentleguy:


TRIPLE GBAM !!
...ur head dey there.
Pls meet me up @ mama ejiro' place. wink cheesy grin

Will there be "ukwu" to check out after the meal.... wink grin cool
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 1:48pm On Oct 25, 2019
Zee supplies /dumping @ 17.00 ..maybe they go continue next week

Watching
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 2:00pm On Oct 25, 2019
lancee:
Zee supplies /dumping @ 17.00 ..maybe they go continue next week

Watching


10-20% gang is/will soon be on stage but bears not yet over.

I like am.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by meshpips(m): 2:01pm On Oct 25, 2019
onegentleguy:


Sharrup there !!
A3 na him u make for MATHS, come dey make noise for here.

Some of us did much better in MATHS and even FURTHER MATHS then, but we still dey maintain SIMPLICITY and HUMILITY !!
Go learn how to imbibe the 2 in bold, if u truly wish to EXCEL in life !!




A3 for SS1 student writing GCE.

As at my SS 3 I graded an A1 and every other subject was also an A.

If you din't grade better than 7 As, please keep quiet!
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by dipoolowoo: 2:01pm On Oct 25, 2019
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:03pm On Oct 25, 2019
REFLECTING ON GUINNESS NIG PLC...

http://www.nse.com.ng/Financial_NewsDocs/27892_GUINNESS_NIG_PLC_FINANCIAL_STATEMENTS_OCTOBER_2019.pdf

I recall advising some folks to SELL off their stake in this coy a few months ago.
Current fundamental stance leaves more pessimism with risk than optimism for reward(risk-return in view)
The brewery sector is suffering. ...no thanks to margin squeeze from contracting volume push amid lower purchasing power, despite price stability.
The recent border closure has also added to the strain for earnings drive.

When u remember that INTERNATIONAL BREWERIES is currently parked(on full offer in days) @ N12.60 with NO bidder, while looking for money(to raise funds via rights issuance @ N9 per share), u will appreciate the FACT that GUINNESS NG PLC might still be expensive even @ the current market price of N23.85 !!
...no wonder its on full offer too.

The coy is now a loss-making entity, following a gap down accross all KEY revenue and earnings line in its latest financial print.
NB and INTER BREWERIES started out this way(at the time, we also warned about the red flags) as loss-making coys, before their serious plunge in share price.

I still maintain a sell guidance on GUINNESS. ...though expectedly, price is now closer to that point when feasible REWARD should overtake inherent RISK.
Folks will recall that I called for a SELL in the stock when price was still hovering around N41-45.
...it has since lost over 70% given the present market price.

NOTE: Still NOT an investment recommendation. Due diligence should remain ur 1st priority.
My advise? ...Pls follow ur instinct.

Btw, I have since advised a SELL in coys like TOTAL, MOBIL and PZ PLC. ...particularly the 1st 2 coys.

It is well.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 2:05pm On Oct 25, 2019
Nothing wey Aisha no go see for Presidential Villa.

So we are now counting how many A's we made in school.

Biko, how many A's did Aliko Dangote be get for school? How many A's did Bill Gates get for university?

Make una keep quiet mbok.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:06pm On Oct 25, 2019
Coolcash1:


Will there be "ukwu" to check out after the meal.... wink grin cool

With due respect, pls where is Pastor Vee? wink cheesy grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 2:09pm On Oct 25, 2019
meshpips:


A3 for SS1 student writing GCE.

As at my SS 3 I graded an A1 and every other subject was also an A.

If you din't grade better than 7 As, please keep quiet!

So if you hear 8A1s, will that make you keep shut and leave us alone? grin
Olodo rabata grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 2:11pm On Oct 25, 2019
Its like we are sighting green small small........we keep observing. tongue
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TLAX: 2:11pm On Oct 25, 2019
robobo:



Hello Chief

God bless you plentiful for this

it was full of insight and hard question,
e.g August surge in foreign flow largely MTN driven (though it still doesnt explain that of September or could that be as per Airtel)
why are PFA not inclined to the equity market despite near certainty of outperformance in the long term
reconfirmation of the fact that NSE (rise & fall) is deeply tied / correlated to foreign inflow (NFA) e.t.c

whats d source please

Possible answer to bolded below

Conclusion: the sentiments are consistent across board

Response 1
You're shaking a broken table
Equity isn't a generic name in Nigeria. Nah not even a noun. As a name describes attributes and character of the underlying. PFAs have bought something hard to describe. The last 10 years has produced significant negative returns save for year 2013 and 2017. 8 solid years of losing money not in single digits but mid and upper teens.

If the money was left in cash it would have been better. If we add inflation considerations, your guess isn’t going to get there. You also missed the blatant destruction of value by unexplained, unexpected shut downs and nationalization of how many banks? Oceanic bank, Intercontinental, Bank PHB. Notably there is that special oil and gas company that is always raising money, Skye Bank - What did PFAs get? Zero. These were banks that had big 4 audits and CBN affirmative reports 3 months before an overnight take over. Check in and see what the industry lost
PFAs are fiduciaries and will not ignore the concerns of the plan owners who already live with the hope that these monies will amount to something. It's not risk-aversion but common sense. How do you stay invested in an asset class that drops to zero overnight . When PFAs complained about small trades (market manipulation) affecting portfolio valuations what happened? 2 nondescript brokers will trade 10,000 units of a stock and make a single PFA lose 2bn in one day. Is that a market?
There were 120 banks and over 300 insurance companies in this country at some point , where are we today. Has the market grown or we should just continue to plow in? Trust is a precious commodity. Once broken, in any relationship, It will take a long time to rebuild. That's happened in this market and unfortunately not being looked at.

Response 2
Greetings and good to read your write up as always.I asked the question after reading through; what exactly is the answer you are expecting to your question?
Where should the loyalty of PFAs lie? To the market or their RSA holders? I would say to RSA holders/members of course.
Do you Invest Longterm to destroy value or to grow value? Are Nigerian Equities positive for LT investors or value eroding? Look back 10, 15 years and you will come to the same conclusion that the majority of Names on the NSE are value destructive for a Long term Investor. Look at the 10 year look back that was published recently showing that only a few names outperformed inflation and devaluation, over the 10 year horizon; one banking stock – Guaranty Trust Bank, FCMG – Nestle Nigeria, two Agriculture Company – Okomu and Presco….
Also, we have found out that the so called equity premium does not exist for most names in Nigeria; certainly not in the last 15 years.
You raised the question on whether Fixed Income is risk free? The professionals know that nothing is risk free; not even US Treasury!!! However, there is the believe that if you are a Naira investor, and Nigeria does not implode or explode, the Federal Government will print money to settle Naira bonds/Treasury bills obligations if it needs to. Euro Bonds holders may not have such consolation.
I am not sure therefore that Fund Managers should put clients’ money at risk, just because they want to be or be seen to be LT players. This behavior will subsist until the Macros, the fiscal and the monetary line up, and rational analysis supports playing Long term. Till then……..
Anyway, I always enjoy your writes up, and I like the emotion behind them.

Response 3
For most PFA’s there is also concern that you could be penalized for performance below industry average. As result, if you are being measured against peers that have little or no equities (and you are heavy on equities) the possibility of having returns below peer average is high…this could come with penalties. I even think things could worsen once the transfer window opens…as managers may be under pressure to deliver short term returns.

From An Equity Salesman

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Coolcash1: 2:13pm On Oct 25, 2019
onegentleguy:


With due respect, pls where is Pastor Vee? wink cheesy grin

Even pastor vee sef dey chop onions.... wink grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 2:14pm On Oct 25, 2019
GT on the move too....... slow and steady. smiley

Una no dey buy from other sector ni? Unilever is on its yearly low now.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TraDeRR: 2:14pm On Oct 25, 2019
735i:


Sexy result!... Very Very Sexy. Zenith and GTB should watch their backs. At this rate, Access will knock them off in a few years


It is now 100% that what I sent to a friend will happen..”if they continue with this sexiness “
I dumped it for Transcorp but no probs..

Transcorp Wey your result oo

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lancee(m): 2:14pm On Oct 25, 2019
zee gt, uba ,access battling the bear .. orders keep coming
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OakPearl(m): 2:14pm On Oct 25, 2019
mendes911:

Nothing wey Aisha no go see for Presidential Villa.

So we are now counting how many A's we made in school.

Biko, how many A's did Aliko Dangote be get for school? How many A's did Bill Gates get for university?

Make una keep quiet mbok.

grin grin grin
Maybe we dey new syllabus sir. grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:20pm On Oct 25, 2019
Agbalowomeri:


So if you hear 8A1s, will that make you keep shut and leave us alone? grin
Olodo rabata grin

Folks dey EXCEL in ABSTRACT ALGEBRA(math 55a) and COMPLEX MATH ANALYSIS(math 55b) and that olodo dey here dey make noise !!
The dude get brain tumour that's in dare need of a SURGICAL DRAINAGE !! grin grin grin

We no need to waste TIME on that guy.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:24pm On Oct 25, 2019
Coolcash1:


Even pastor vee sef dey chop onions.... wink grin

I know not what u are talking about !! wink cheesy grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Homextras: 2:25pm On Oct 25, 2019
The manipulations in this market is something else.
Forte Oil..yesterday +10% today -10%.

Scam of the century.
Where are our regulators?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TraDeRR: 2:29pm On Oct 25, 2019
Homextras:
The manipulations in this market is something else.
Forte Oil..yesterday +10% today -10%.

Scam of the century.
Where are our regulators?

NSE for you.. I can’t wait to leave and never look back..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yok: 2:30pm On Oct 25, 2019
TraDeRR:


Transcorp Wey your result oo

The result will likely look like this? This will be the standard to measure if the actual is good or bad.

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 2:32pm On Oct 25, 2019
TraDeRR:


NSE for you.. I can’t wait to leave and never look back..

My love please don't leave us grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TraDeRR: 2:33pm On Oct 25, 2019
yok:


The result will likely look like this? This will be the standard to measure if the actual is good or bad.

shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by veecovee: 2:34pm On Oct 25, 2019
Generation of for...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 2:35pm On Oct 25, 2019
Homextras:
The manipulations in this market is something else.
Forte Oil..yesterday +10% today -10%.

Scam of the century.
Where are our regulators?


What do you want regulators to do?
Do you want them to think for investors
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by PETERiCHY(m): 2:38pm On Oct 25, 2019
PETERiCHY:


So they don't know they will get regulatory approval b4 going public . Well like I said its all part of their plan to lure in more gullibles which they have succeeded .

As for BARGAIN HUNTERS we are patiently waiting at their N6:00k fair value

I said it moons ago that FO AUDIO TAKEOVER plan is an orchestrate to take more prisoners.


Now it's on FULL OFFER @#15:85k grin

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 2:39pm On Oct 25, 2019
pluto09:



What do you want regulators to do?
Do you want them to think for investors

Make una no push pastor Vee to withdraw his thanksgiving o grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:43pm On Oct 25, 2019
Homextras:
The manipulations in this market is something else.
Forte Oil..yesterday +10% today -10%.

Scam of the century.
Where are our regulators?

Yes, but if u have clear answers to WHY u hold the stock, then u would worry less about matters like this.
It's no secret that most fundamentally sound coys are currently been 'padded' to shake-off weak hands.

Btw, the stock actually lost <9% and not 10%.
In the end, we will see if FORTE OIL carries or holds VALUE behind the current market price.

It is well !!
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 2:54pm On Oct 25, 2019
mendes911:


On top FO that will soon reverse gear? Relax joorrr

You prophesy is happening .
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 2:55pm On Oct 25, 2019
jideflash:
Today is my saddest day of this year. I didnt act on FO tip from reliable source. cry

You can buy your FO if your are still interested grin grin grin

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