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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:53pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


North East Nigeria makes no oil from any east place look at this boy talking of things you do not understand you sound like a two year old trying to do Pythagoras

Lagos got the 10th highest Federal allocation now all oil money just goes to Lagos most of the money Lagos uses is money made in Lagos from things over than oil which you Kenyans so blindly think the whole of Nigeria depends on I will say it again if we completely depended on oil than when the recession came our economy would have gone down to 20 billion dollars did it NOO
Global vOil prices recovered and you got out of recession..if oil drops back to 20-40 dollars a barrel your economy dies.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:57pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Same difference...I am estimating..I don't have to be precise to make my point. The point is next year Nairobi will have more dollar millionaires than Lagos.

No it won't you don't even have any dollar billionaires you think too highly of your country and do not use facts or proper information you simply guess and believe any single source that says something good about Kenya regardless of who wrote it

Lagos is going to build a lot of dollar millionaires with lekki let me tell you this Lagos is going to expand into the rest of it's landmass but this time they have made a rigorous masterplan for this area with another port which will be more efficient and much better, a railway, good roads and finally real estate will be making a lot of jobs for people with all the vast land someone has to own it eh and sell it once the price goes up due to the port and free trade zone they will quickly become millionaires and live the good life

Please compare yourself to your own friends not Nigeria we are going to progress on unprecedented levels and we are not going to be on level with Africa we will not continue saying largest economy in the Africa but rather one of the largest economies in the world and the only African country in the top 15 place

Just so you know with all forecasts even when Nigeria was in it's recession people predicted that by 2050 Nigeria would be the world's 13th largest economy with Ethiopia next at 14th then south Africa at 20, Egypt at 22nd and DRC at 25 there was no Kenya so please do not think way too highly of yourself because frankly we are not your mate

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:00pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
How many rice mills in Asia have close shop because their biggest export market Nigeria is now self sufficient.Some nonsense only a Nigerian can believe in.Zero intelligence.Not much difference with a bonobo.When Asia ships carrying rice stop heading Nigeria or wheat from Europe or Sugar from Brazil or corn from US...come and talk about your agriculture.Otherwise you're using 20B officially to import food without factoring the smuggled ones.When Benin stop importing parboiled rice from Thailand and India...rice they don't like or consume.. come and we shall celebrate this feat.

But Nigeria isn't their biggest market is it and Benin can continue Importing all of that rice it will simply have it there to rot or they will try and go through the forest instead

We have stopped using 20 billion dollars it is now 14 billion dollars by 2023 the government says it would reach about 5 billion dollars and that will be for things like apples, fish and products you cannot produce in Nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:00pm On Oct 26, 2019
samorobo:



Common will you erase that nonsense you wrote...That nonsense report is definitely wrong....Aside leaopard tower which is africa tallest building joburg has like 10 towers under construction as we speak this is even outside the high rises that is under construction..Cape town has 6 towers under construction with the lowest out of that six being 28 floor and the highest being 48 floor...Durban has a 47 , 32 and 28 floor building under construction and this is outside the numerous high rise under construction...just visit skyscraper city and cure yourself from all this ignorance....


Look at you think your zoo is expanding better that other African nation..compete with Adissa abba if you can grin grin
I think Nairobi has 20 skyscrapers under construction..100m tall..the high-rise are not countable.The malls are so many we are closing the gap with South Africa.We are also spending nearly 2b in road infrastructure.We soon modernize our commuter rail.We are building 0.5m Housing units..mass housing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:02pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


But Nigeria isn't their biggest market is it and Benin can continue Importing all of that rice it will simply have it there to rot or they will try and go through the forest instead

We have stopped using 20 billion dollars it is now 14 billion dollars by 2023 the government says it would reach about 5 billion dollars and that will be for things like apples, fish and products you cannot produce in Nigeria
Benin don't eat parboiled rice..if they continue importing it means they are still finding ways to beat your border closure and that I bet is what will happen.Your food import bill is dropping because you refuse to sell dollars to food importers who import thro smuggling route..next will be Chad and Niger...re exporting to Nigeria

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:03pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
I reject with good reasons which I have stated here.You are not a poverty capital for nothing.Data is easy to cross check.See you rice story... officially you claim to be self sufficient with great rice production...but look at Benin and Cameron almost immediately importing your usual share of rice in Asia.So you inflated your agriculture to mind boggling 100B and yet nobody has ever met a Nigerian ship exporting food..You will equally inflate manufacturing...food processing by claiming phantom factories mill phantom rice from phantom farms.


We never said we were self sufficient will you actually read for once we will be self sufficient by 2020 and we are slowly cutting the deficit with locally produced rice I do not know where you keep on getting this news of 100 billion dollar agricultural produce or that we are self sufficient but anyway here is an image of a rice mill company in kano getting ready to export their produce after they experienced a bumper harvest which is bringing down the price of rice

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:05pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


No it won't you don't even have any dollar billionaires you think too highly of your country and do not use facts or proper information you simply guess and believe any single source that says something good about Kenya regardless of who wrote it

Lagos is going to build a lot of dollar millionaires with lekki let me tell you this Lagos is going to expand into the rest of it's landmass but this time they have made a rigorous masterplan for this area with another port which will be more efficient and much better, a railway, good roads and finally real estate will be making a lot of jobs for people with all the vast land someone has to own it eh and sell it once the price goes up due to the port and free trade zone they will quickly become millionaires and live the good life

Please compare yourself to your own friends not Nigeria we are going to progress on unprecedented levels and we are not going to be on level with Africa we will not continue saying largest economy in the Africa but rather one of the largest economies in the world and the only African country in the top 15 place

Just so you know with all forecasts even when Nigeria was in it's recession people predicted that by 2050 Nigeria would be the world's 13th largest economy with Ethiopia next at 14th then south Africa at 20, Egypt at 22nd and DRC at 25 there was no Kenya so please do not think way too highly of yourself because frankly we are not your mate
AfroAsia have crunched the numbers and so as NewWealth..and all wealth trackers.Yes Kenya may not have dollar billionaire but will have more millionaires.An average house in Nairobi is approaching 1M dollars.Land in Nairobi go as high as 6m dollars an acre.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:05pm On Oct 26, 2019
Shma:
Okay. Am not refuting your statement. But let's break this down. One of your brother once posted your wealth record using percentage as a determining factor. You were at around 57% but with a population twice Kenya's, south Africa was around 90% but with half your population, kenya was at 88%.. Now this comes to mind. When they sum up all the wealthy cities by population you guys takes it. So that clearly shows that when it come to ranking of poorest countries Nigeria will still take the crown. Dangote's oil is contributing 50% of your economy. Don't want to talk about south Africa.


What is the meaning of Dangote oil....The fact that you don't know that he is not in the oil business shows that you don't even know what you are saying

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:06pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Lagos was Nigeria capital until 90s when southern forces tried to overthrow Abacha.So you can say from 1960s till 1995 or around..most oil money ended in Lagos..hence the grievances of the south east that generate most of the oil.

We were not producing oil in the 60s we started producing oil and actually making profit in 1974 and plus added on to that they moved to Abuja in 1991 not 1995 as well just because it is the capital does not mean all the oil money goes there that is the biggest lie ever the oil money is spread out the largest recipients are the producers themselves bayelsa, rivers, delta and akwa ibom

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:08pm On Oct 26, 2019
Shma:
Okay. Am not refuting your statement. But let's break this down. One of your brother once posted your wealth record using percentage as a determining factor. You were at around 57% but with a population twice Kenya's, south Africa was around 90% but with half your population, kenya was at 88%.. Now this comes to mind. When they sum up all the wealthy cities by population you guys takes it. So that clearly shows that when it come to ranking of poorest countries Nigeria will still take the crown. Dangote's oil is contributing 50% of your economy. Don't want to talk about south Africa.

Clearly you are the one who understands nothing dangote doesn't produce oil his business is off of cement and agricultural produce like tomatoes and rice it is only know that he has moved into oil refining and the dangote company is only worth 20 billion dollars if I can do math I know that 20 billion dollars is not half of 400 billion dollars but what do I know

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:10pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:



We never said we were self sufficient will you actually read for once we will be self sufficient by 2020 and we are slowly cutting the deficit with locally produced rice I do not know where you keep on getting this news of 100 billion dollar agricultural produce or that we are self sufficient but anyway here is an image of a rice mill company in kano getting ready to export their produce after they experienced a bumper harvest which is bringing down the price of rice
20% of 500B dollars GDP is 100B.That is your famed non existent agriculture that uses about the same fertilizer as Kenya.Your rice story if it true will cause a dent in Thailand..we will hear it there because their data is credible.There is no rice success story.Just scammed Buhari who loaned out money to phantom farmers and miller's.Benin almost immediately filled the gap.. importing the same quantity of parboiled rice they don't cook...get that through your bone headed skull.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:11pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


Clearly you are the one who understands nothing dangote doesn't produce oil his business is off of cement and agricultural produce like tomatoes and rice it is only know that he has moved into oil refining and the dangote company is only worth 20 billion dollars if I can do math I know that 20 billion dollars is not half of 400 billion dollars but what do I know
Tomato factory how goes that? Last I heard it run out of tomatos.From a country that claim to top 3 tomato producer in the world and still import shiploads of tomato paste.Please stop lying to yourselves.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:11pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Global vOil prices recovered and you got out of recession..if oil drops back to 20-40 dollars a barrel your economy dies.

Why did it not die before when it went below 20 dollars our economy is not solely oil we are diversifying we will start exporting steel all other Africa do not be surprised when you see a Skyscraper in Nairobi being built with steel made in ajaokuta or when you go to a restaurant do not be surprised if the Chillies in yiru food were grown in Nigeria or your cereal the corn grown in Nigeria or the wheat in your bread made in Nigeria we are greatly diversifying but no one is seeing it we will just come up overnight in 2022 boom 5% or 7% just like that

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obidark: 8:14pm On Oct 26, 2019
something wrong with you kenyans....

lagos is like london is to europe,lagos is like egypt in the north,lagos is like dubia in arabia....

you kenyans seem to dont understand how underdeveloped africa was when those occupyin moroons left....
we practicaly started from zero....

that area called lagos was already long their,lagos is no cbd....

if you cant beat lagos,then their is nothing to discuss about....

and nigeria has many other ancient cities....

na sokoto una wan compete with....??....about what....??
even with boko issues,sokoto can still match kenya alone....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:14pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


Why did it not die before when it went below 20 dollars our economy is not solely oil we are diversifying we will start exporting steel all other Africa do not be surprised when you see a Skyscraper in Nairobi being built with steel made in ajaokuta or when you go to a restaurant do not be surprised if the Chillies in yiru food were grown in Nigeria or your cereal the corn grown in Nigeria or the wheat in your bread made in Nigeria we are greatly diversifying but no one is seeing it we will just come up overnight in 2022 boom 5% or 7% just like that
Dream on.Kenya company is already producing steel billets..only RSA does it.I know a Kenya company that export chilli to Nigeria.You wet dreams won't happen...when you cannot fix basic like electricity

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:14pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
20% of 500B dollars GDP is 100B.That is your famed non existent agriculture that uses about the same fertilizer as Kenya.Your rice story if it true will cause a dent in Thailand..we will hear it there because their data is credible.There is no rice success story.Just scammed Buhari who loaned out money to phantom farmers and Miller's.Benin almost immediately filled the gap...get that through your bone headed skull.

When will you learn I even showed you images of the rice produced do you want me to do a step by step documentary if I went to the market tomorrow there would not be a trace of any rice made in Thailand or India all the rice will be made in Nigeria quite clearly

You can doubt it all you want but Nigeria is producing rice and the production of the rice is increasing and we will become self sufficient when will you get that in your head empty cocoyam
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:15pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Tomato factory how goes that? Last I heard it run out of tomatos.From a country to be top 3 tomato producer in the world and still import shiploads of tomato paste

Well that was Bloomberg who did not hear the news that they had signed a contract with a Nigerian university who made a new seedling of tomato that grows much quicker and dangote says it will be back online at the start of next year stop trying to argue about Nigeria anything you know I know
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:19pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Dream on.Kenya company is already producing steel billets..only RSA does it.I know a Kenya company that export chilli to Nigeria.You wet dreams won't happen...when you cannot fix basic like electricity

Nigeria signed over three deals one with Siemens to produce over 25 000MW of power they have already started with the immediate upgrade of transmissions all over Nigeria and construction of new ones

Second agreement was a 3 billion dollar loan from world Bank which will produce 35 000MW already progress there as well they have started rehabilitation of transmission lines and building transformers

Final agreement 1.6 billion dollar to TCN to provide 20 000MW of power by 2022 also started as they had to demolish 100 houses to build power lines across kano city which will experience constant power supply along with the whole of Northern Nigeria and Abuja with this deal

Anything bad you say of Nigeria the government has already started to fix it name it
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:21pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


When will you learn I even showed you images of the rice produced do you want me to do a step by step documentary if I went to the market tomorrow there would not be a trace of any rice made in Thailand or India all the rice will be made in Nigeria quite clearly

You can doubt it all you want but Nigeria is producing rice and the production of the rice is increasing and we will become self sufficient when will you get that in your head empty cocoyam
Maybe repacked.. otherwise it simple let Thailand and India tell us their market for parboiled destined for Nigeria or Benin or Cameron has gone down.. factories are closing down.You see when you add something in Nigeria..you'll will substract somewhere else
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:21pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
My take Nairobi like AfroAsia says will next year overtake Lagos in wealth score and like JLC says is no 6 world fastest growing city in real estate will soon overtake Joburg.I don't have my own data...I use reputable data that is cross verifiable.I refuse Nigeria GDP data because it's overcooked.Its easy to know if data is cooked because they don't add up.Ask VW group who sold 20 cars in entire Nigeria hahaha..these are entry level cars..when they sell half a million in South Africa and 200 in Rwanda


Tell that private Afraasia bank from Mauritius to kiss my ass.....let them praises your cooked GDP...

Btw is afra-asia bank not in Kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:21pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Dream on.Kenya company is already producing steel billets..only RSA does it.I know a Kenya company that export chilli to Nigeria.You wet dreams won't happen...when you cannot fix basic like electricity

Part of Kenya's main imports are steel yet you produce steel what kind of lie is that one

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:24pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Maybe repacked.. otherwise it simple let Thailand and India tell us their market for parboiled destined for Nigeria or Benin or Cameron has gone down.. factories are closing down.You see when you add something in Nigeria..you'll will substract somewhere else

Repacked into local bags? How does that make any sense every single time someone has tried to repack rice they have been arrested in the first one month of the border closure they repacked local rice into foreign bags but they were arrested over 50 people now no one is willing to try and people are enjoying Nigerian rice what can you do and now 75kg bag will be 9000N and 50kg will be 7500 whilst 25 kg back will be just 3000N compared to before the border closure where foreign rice 75kg bag was selling at 22 000N but it is bad news
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:24pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
I think only Joburg, Capetown and maybe Durban are bigger than Nairobi.Joburg GDP is possibly 80B dollars..I estimate Nairobi to be about 50B.Yes Nairobi has some way but it growing so fast...and will catch up sooner than you think..15yrs max.Nairobi was voted no 6 most dynamic ( read fastest growing) city in the world..in a list dominated by Indian and China cities.Nearly half of all skyscrapers under construction in Africa are in Nairobi...soon Nairobi will have tallest or biggest anything.Multinational are choosing Nairobi as their HQ for their Africa operations outside of South Africa.

We not fighting �

South Africa is no longer focusing on big cities, the focusing on picking up smaller cities to be more viable.

Even villages are getting shopping malls financial centers...
Better roads, better housing.

Skyscrapers are nice but SA are no longer making themthem a focus. Most europen countries don't built sky scrappers as part of preserving their culture of building.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:24pm On Oct 26, 2019
samorobo:



Tell that private Afraasia bank from Mauritius to kiss my ass.....let them praises your cooked GDP...

Btw is afra-asia bank not in Kenya

Apparently it is from Mauritius
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:25pm On Oct 26, 2019
Austine1212:


We not fighting �

South Africa is no longer focusing on big cities, the focusing on picking up smaller cities to be more viable.

Even villages are getting shopping malls financial centers...
Better roads, better housing.

Skyscrapers are nice but SA are no longer making themthem a focus. Most europen countries don't built sky scrappers as part of preserving their culture of building.


Please educate them on how skyscrapers do not mean development and how Kenya is not better than South Africa, Nigeria or Egypt

Just another notice if you want proper stats go to wawamu stats on YouTube they have very interesting stats on many different things including economies check them out so than you can see who the largest economy in Africa is.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:25pm On Oct 26, 2019
Abohboy:


Nigeria signed over three deals one with Siemens to produce over 25 000MW of power they have already started with the immediate upgrade of transmissions all over Nigeria and construction of new ones

Second agreement was a 3 billion dollar loan from world Bank which will produce 35 000MW already progress there as well they have started rehabilitation of transmission lines and building transformers

Final agreement 1.6 billion dollar to TCN to provide 20 000MW of power by 2022 also started as they had to demolish 100 houses to build power lines across kano city which will experience constant power supply along with the whole of Northern Nigeria and Abuja with this deal

Anything bad you say of Nigeria the government has already started to fix it name it
Don't elect a lifeless cow herder again please.You have installed capacity of 12,000MW.You peak production is 3-4,000MW for six hours.The problem is not lack of power and need to build more power stations.The problem is for installed turbines to be turned on and for transmission to be rebuilt.The problem is having only 3m metered customer.Start there.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obidark: 8:27pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Dream on.Kenya company is already producing steel billets..only RSA does it.I know a Kenya company that export chilli to Nigeria.You wet dreams won't happen...when you cannot fix basic like electricity

tahh....i laugh in uhuru....
we nigerians know whats going on in africa....
nigeria already has an installed capacity of 20000megawatt....
we know you socalled pan african moroons are just playin along the agenda....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MiddleDimension: 8:30pm On Oct 26, 2019
Stevoh18:


Patriotism aside as you said, prove that by posting aerial view of Lagos as you(Nigerians) hv been asked
....back it up with by link showing in which human development you lead Kenya... for example, what's your HDI vs Kenya's
there are countless images of Lagos on the web for you to look at. there are also some that have been posted here.

also, we are richer than the average kenyan even with our vast population.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:31pm On Oct 26, 2019
Austine1212:


We not fighting �

South Africa is no longer focusing on big cities, the focusing on picking up smaller cities to be more viable.

Even villages are getting shopping malls financial centers...
Better roads, better housing.

Skyscrapers are nice but SA are no longer making themthem a focus. Most europen countries don't built sky scrappers as part of preserving their culture of building.

Any change in urban planning laws or what do you mean focus on? Property developers will build depending on supply and demand..and of course gov approval.Youre not building because there is no demand for office space because the economy is sick.India and China are building them..coz their economy is booming.Europe have plateue but are developed..there is no crazy demand for office space and they can afford to restrict heights & etc..but South Africa is caught in the middle..it's not Europe..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:33pm On Oct 26, 2019
obidark:


tahh....i laugh in uhuru....
we nigerians know whats going on in africa....
nigeria already has an installed capacity of 20000megawatt....
we know you socalled pan african moroons are just playin along the agenda....

We produce 20 000MW but the transmission cannot handle it so we have to upgrade our transmission lines than by 2023 we will be producing over 70 000MW of power
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:34pm On Oct 26, 2019
rvp2018:
Don't elect a lifeless cow herder again please.You have installed capacity of 12,000MW.You peak production is 3-4,000MW for six hours.The problem is not lack of power and need to build more power.The problem is for installed turbines to be turned on and for transmission to be rebuilt.The problem is having only 3m metered customer.Start there.

That is why i said upgrading of transmission I never once mentioned creating new power plants did I jus said upgrading and construction transmission lines and transformers but now you are putting words in my mouth and the peak production is 7000MW get it right

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