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Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 5:49pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Yujin:Thats because of their tiny landmass.if you put them in the same landmass occupied by hausas and yorubas,they will be sparsely distributed 4 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 5:52pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
scholes0: Great analysis! Hmm, I don't think Urhobos would be clearly more than Igalas unless of course you add Isoko to the Urhobo population. 2ndly, like I was telling garfield. If fulanis are the 4th largest tribe in Nigeria, then Hausa cannot be the 1st or even 2nd. They would be the 3rd. This is because the Hausanized Fulanis of the Northwest are something close to 10 million. If you remove them from Hausa population, then Hausa shrinks significantly and cannot compete with Yoruba & Igbo. Between Yoruba & Igbo, it is very very difficult to tell who is the largest. Yujin: 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by GODMALE: 5:53pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Yujin:igbos have big population before but not now, remember millions were used for suya so they are relegated to 3rd, if they dare try such nonsense again, there won't be tribe call Igbo's in this world 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 5:55pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Highly controversial but i srltill see the hausas as the largest.while on a research at the calabar archives,i got access to files in which bbritish officers during the 1950s census counted smaller tribes and ibibios as efiks.the file is cadist 130.let me not talk of the 2006 census.am watching a match,una dey distract me |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 5:56pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
scholes0: Pls, are you from Kogi state? Can you tell why the Ebiras & Okuns can never unite against Igala? Both of them have been together in the same political entities for decades, how come they still can never agree till now? |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Astark: 5:56pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Benin's, Ibibio, igala, ijaw and urhobo Which do you think is more populated and in what order? 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 5:57pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Yujin: Population density of Igboland between the Central Anambra and the Central/Imo to Umuahia axis, as well as the central Enugu ridge between Ezike and Udi, I agree. But overall population is still a big toss up to be honest. And by overall population I am also including the Ikwerres, Ikaz, Ogbas, Kwales and all other igbo affiliated groups, even Ekpeye. Igbo settlement pattern is the same as that the Fon of Southern Benin, still all Fon within Benin cant be more than 4 million. Density x Landmass is what will result in eventual population not just density alone. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:00pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
GODMALE:Dude are you mentally and intellectually challenged or something? surely only a dysfunctional mind would conjure filth of this nature, grow up SMH. 9 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 6:03pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse:I cant agree with this.lets go into estimates based on 2006 population.katsina had 6 million,fulanis cant have more than one million,in kebbi,fulanis cant have more than 500k like in sokoto and zamfara.in kano,fulanis cant be more than 2 million,jigawa,they cant be more than 500k.in kaduna,there not more than 200k.i haven't even factored in bauchi,niger etc.hausas are slightly more |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 6:03pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Yujin: You are quite correct. The natural leadership of christians in Nigeria rests in the hands of Igbos (as the largest christian population). The core-north has succeeded in pitching all other Nigerians to be against Igbos and this is why christians will always be 2nd class in Nigeria even though we are the majority. This is similar to what happens in Nasarawa state where the Eggons (who are the most hated tribe in the state) are the largest tribe in the state and are predominantly christian. One thing Igbos & Eggons have in common is pride, arrogancy, a rugged, cunning, unaccomodating, discriminating, domineering and a loud nature. This is what turns of the other christian tribes and makes them easily manipulated to hate you people. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 6:04pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Astark:Ibibios |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 6:05pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
garfield1:Igbos in the north are within the range of 7-10million. In the West, maximum 7 million. In the SE, 21million and SS- 6million. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 6:08pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
GODMALE: Binis are a dicey case, cause BENIN city is now so diluted, so many Esans, Etsakors, Igbos, Yorubas, Isokos etc now in Benin. I can't even honestly remotely remember what the second largest bini town(or village) probably Abudu near Ika or Utesse near Ondo state? ? The Benins are essentially a city state people. So much aspect of Edo history was focused on Benin city that it looks like the people forgot to produce other towns. Urhobos, Ijaws and Ibibios are all more populated than Benins. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 6:09pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse:It is the same thing na.when the british counted,they hausas were still the largest so lets rest this matter |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 6:11pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse:All colonial records had Igbos with more population than Yorubas. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by garfield1: 6:13pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Yujin:That will still place you third na |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by GODMALE: 6:13pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
scholes0:I don't understand the point you are trying to make, Benin city is eating up different towns making it into one big city in south Edo state just like how Lagos is a mega city state. So Benin's shouldn't allow other ethnic groups into their region? That's tribalism I doubt urhobo are urhobo and Ibibio are more than the Benin's. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 6:16pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
garfield1: Hahahaha, you are wrong. Yes fulanis cannot be more than 500k in Kebbi state, but what about the Zurus, Kambaris & Zarmas? Oh, you think Kebbi is just a Hausa & fulani state? Zurus or Dakarkari or Lelna are the 2nd largest tribe in Kebbi state, dominating 4 LGAs and they are mostly christian. Kambaris who are mostly christian too dominate Ngaski LGA while Zarmas have many areas in northern Kebbi like Arewa Dandi and co. Then, Shangawa in Shanga LGA. Infact Hausas may not be up to 50% in Kebbi state if care is not taken.. Same thing with Kaduna. Hausas in Bauchi & Niger state are not up to 10%, maybe like around 5%. They are all settlers. Are you aware that Zamfara, Kano, Jigawa & even Sokoto have some minority tribes? Although they are not more than 10% in each. Only Katsina is the 100% Hausa & fulani state. Then if you remove fulanis and hausanized fulanis from these states. Kano, zamfara, Jigawa & Sokoto would be like 65- 70% Hausa, Katsina like 80% Hausa. Then Kebbi & Kaduna (like 40% Hausa), then other northern states like 1-5% each. Where then is their population? They would barely be up to 30 million. Maybe like 25 million. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 6:18pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
garfield1:Lol. Drop your own stats na? |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 6:19pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
garfield1: Yes, this is because the British counted most of the hausanized fulanis too. These people have started intermixing long before the British came. |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 6:21pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
garfield1: I did not count them, they are not Ebiras. Kogi central is 5 LGAs. Ebiras have 4. 3 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:22pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
garfield1: Sorry 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 6:23pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse: The mind of the average okun is not in kogi, it is stuck in Ilorin, Ibadan, Ile-Ife or Lagos.lol funny but 'it is a true something'. Even during elections their turnout is usually the lowest. They are not enthused about the entire prospect of 'Kogi' at all.. To the Igalas, Kogi is nirvana. The state na their papa property, an avenue to finally develop their land after years of shackling under Benue-Plateau to Benue then to Kwara (Where they were jokingly called 'abroad kwarans' because there was no bridge between Itobe and Ajaokuta at the time like it does now, they had to use Canoes to even get to their own capital in ilorin and other parts of the state) nd then again under Benue before they finally landed in Paradise Kogi Ebiras are the ones in a dicey situation here, because left to the Okuns they won't even be Kogites. Igalas are happy where they are. Ebiras however will never share a state alone with Igalas and don't want to return to a state where they would be an even smaller minority under a heavy yoruba majority (Kwara). I just feel it is because of them that Kogi was even brought together as an entity cos Igala population alone can't sustain a state so the western half were brought over from Kwara to join, together with the centrally located and historically significant town of lokoja. The truth is that Okuns and Ebiras have different political agendas but they can still come together if they really want to. They just have to come by a rotation agreement and Igala domination will be history. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 6:30pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Yujin: Everywhere there. Even if they are tiny, theya re still present. In many places within this obodo Nigeria ,igbos are tiny but prominent component of the fabric of towns. That is what many people don't know. prominent is not the same as populated That is how one of you was arguing with a cross riverian that migrant Igbo Communities were more than the Ibibios in C/River state and he was telling you guyz the reality on ground. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:34pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
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Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 6:41pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Compare Delta central 100% Urhobo to Kogi East, Igala plus minorities from 2006, you will see that Urhobos are more than Igalas. (within the homelands at least) Mind you, Warri metropolis is not even Delta central but Delta south and there are still Urhobos there. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 6:45pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
GODMALE: scholes0: Of course, Esans can never match Bini population in Benin. I was born and bred in Warri and I discovered that in Warri and Asaba and even PH, you will meet 5 esan people first before you meet 1 Benin person. Same thing with Lagos. Benin people hardly leave Benin to anywhere else apart from Italy. Unlike Esans who move everywhere and are visible everywhere. Same thing with the Afemais. Etsako (Auchi) people with their muslim religion are well represented in the north. You see them in Kaduna, Jos, Kano & Zaria. The Akoko edos are very much in Yoruba land. Are you people aware that so many Urhobos are living in Benin villages? All those Ovia areas down to Ore forests have many Urhobo and even Yoruba communities who dominate the Palm oil plantations. These people are not Benin people. How about the Ijaws who have up to 10 towns in Ikpobha-Okha & Ovia villages? All those Siluko and Gelegele areas along the coast into Ondo state? Benins cannot be up to half of Edo state. It is impossible. Where are the communities? As for Ebira, how can you say Ebira Tao + Koto are 1 million? Are u aware that Okene was the most populated LGA in Kogi state in 2006 census? Only the Ebira migrants in Yoruba land are up to 1 million, let alone those in Kogi. Ebiras are well represented in the north too, but so are Igalas, so it won't count much. Yes, Ebiras of FCT and Nasarawa are not likely more than 200k. But those in Yoruba land, Edo state, Tao of Kogi central & Koto of Lokoja/Koton karfe are more than 2 million combined. Wait, be sincere, how many Ebiras will you say are all over Yorubaland up to Kwara? I need a figure. @GODMALE, you said Ebiras are not more than 50,000 in Edo state, are you aware that Igarras/Etunos who have the largest town in Akoko edo are also Ebira speaking people? What about the Ebiras who I heard are now up to 30% of Ososo town and the majority in Aiyegunle? Cc deadlytruth my Oshuku friend |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by JonDon12: 6:49pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Muslims are a majority in Nigeria, That is a fact. You are a citizen of a muslim country. One of the most backward ones too. Not only is Nigeria a muslim mahority country, They are our defacto rulers. They rule in the North and amongst the Yoruba, They are first class citizens. In Yorubaland, most of their Obas are Muslim, the otunbas as well. The state governers are muslim as well as the political, afenifere and OPC chieftains. This is Nigerias reality. The British made sure the Muslims remained in charge because they are easier to control. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 6:52pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
FulaniJihadists: Bro, Fulanis are many in Nigeria if you count the Hausanized Fulanis as Fulanis. They are up to 15 million. However, if it is just the Pure Fulanis, then they are like 5-7 million. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Nowenuse: 7:01pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
scholes0: Delta central is more cosmopolitan than Kogi east because places like Uvwie & Udu have merged with Warri and have many tribes living there. Same with Ughelli & Sapele towns. Delta central is far far more urbanized unlike Kogi east. How many immigrants are living in Ankpa or Anyigba? Everybody is Igala. Yes, you also have Urhbos in Warri south and a small minority in Patani & Sagbama LGA in Bayelsa. However, Igalas have up to 6 towns in the SE/SS and some communities in Apa LGA of Benue state. Lastly, Igalas migrate more than Urhobos as of today. Igalas are becoming intimidating in Abuja, they are also very many in Kaduna, Jos & Kano, they are in Igbo land too. Urhobo migrants on the other hand only have strong populations in Benin villages & Ajegunle (Lagos). Both tribes should be something very close to equal. 1 Like |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by scholes0(m): 7:01pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse: I am the one that said Ebiras are now plenty in Ososo ... wait wasn't that like 2-3 years ago this guy you no dey forget something. Ebiras in Edo.... 100K Ebiras in SW - 300K Okene is the largest LGA yes, Okene plus Adavi is the single largest conurbation in Kogi even larger than lokoja. But outside the obvious size of Okene township, what is the population of Kogi central? What is the population of Kogi lga at Koto karfe that will justify or support the 3 million figure. Kogi central if I were generous and say 900k plus Kogi lga another 100k that is 1Mill. Nassarawa plus f.c.t 200k like you already agreed, that is 1.2 million.. sounds about right for Ebira. Diasporic population in north: Unknown. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiv And Ibibio Are The Joint 4th Most Populous Ethnic Groups In Nigeria by Yujin(m): 7:03pm On Oct 27, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Lol. The other adjectives I may not dispute but as for cunning and unaccomodating, that's not true. The problem is that Igbos don't like weaklings and if you appear so then you will think they are cunning and unaccommodating because they are treat you as someone they don't want. Weaklings are weak links. If you prove your worth they'll respect you and welcome you as a man. Many of those who do businesses with Igbos can attest to this. Well, thread is about demography so let me stop here. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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