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Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by Nobody: 4:01am On Oct 29, 2019 |
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Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by Nobody: 4:02am On Oct 29, 2019 |
NGpatriot:100 |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by kayusely70(m): 4:04am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Very cheap blackmail. The man is an slowpoke. He is from Ondo State. Aregbesola is now a minister while Osinowo is now a senator ( Lagos East). |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by NGpatriot: 4:05am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: This is nothing but semantics, it makes no difference who is inspecting or not inspecting, as long as an eye is kept on taxpayers funded projects. Who cares really? Leaving the society to their own cleaning and environmental devices is just irresponsible and total abdication of duty because people won't clean, people will litter, people will dump refuse and hazardous materials everywhere. This is why governments create environmental agencies like EPA in the US and LASEPA in Lagos to regulate and enforce environmental laws. Go and litter in Texas, the government will take $500 or up to $2,500 from you or send you to jail. It's ok to purvey your own personal opinion, but your opinion is not rooted in reality and Public Administration 101, it's like saying that we should not have a police force to curtail crime, arrest criminals or enforce laws because people know not to commit crime when in fact knowing the difference between right and wrong is irrelevant because people still commit crime regardless. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 4:24am On Oct 29, 2019 |
kayusely70: Stop reading meaning into that article. Its fake 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 4:27am On Oct 29, 2019 |
NGpatriot: Again, a blunder from you! It matters a great deal. I will repeat myself....citizens owe it to themselves to have a clean community. A governor or commissioner or LG chairman should never be chasing after people to clean their own sorrounding. Bro, where are you from? Please share what state your origin is. I feel like Im talking to a pig. Why does governor have to tell you to clean your sorrounding? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by NGpatriot: 4:50am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: Before going any further, what's your point really? That the citizens can supervise themselves and no government action or involvement is needed when it comes to the environment and sanitation? |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by NigeriaIsDoomed: 5:42am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:You are right bro. Lagos can be put in other but it requires a political will from the actors. Sometimes, I wonder why those molue and danfo buses are still plying Lagos road cus they constitute an eyesore. Does it mean that the actors cannot phase them out and introduce something better? Many things are wrong in this country. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by 7lives: 6:22am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: Shior, Ambode goofed on that vision scape/ Lawma faceoff, and that useless BRT lane he constructed on Oshodi/ Abule egba area. Did you know what people of that area go through, before Ambode was booted out, and are still going through now. The road is already narrowed and Ambode still went on to carve a BRT lane out of it, more than ten people died last December just trying to get to their homes after closing from work, they all died inside go slow, people are still laying curses on Ambode everyday in that area. An insensitive man like Ambode have no bussiness governing a crowded place like Lagos. And that his useless task force that goes out even on Sundays to seize people's wares in the market, it shall NEVER be well with them and Ambode. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by modik(m): 6:31am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Anti People Congress. Na dem! |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by Nobody: 6:44am On Oct 29, 2019 |
NGpatriot: I'd really like to know this also because he is writing a load of twaddle here while insulting others with name-calling. He normally makes sense and I can only imagine a compromised sense of reasoning on this occasion due to some personal or ideological devotion to Ambode. Simple fact someone of MetaPhysical intelligence should appreciate that no major city of the world, with far smaller population and a more organised people, leaves cleaning of public place to the "community' as he ridiculously claims. Is it London, New York, Paris, Milan, Berlin, Mumbai, Cape Town, Accra, Munich? Which one exactly? I own a UK property and the local council is responsible for cleaning roads, public space, Parks, rail stations, public toilets et al and taking away my rubbish while I am personally responsible for space around my property i.e driveway and Garden. The statement below is simply incredible and an indication we stand logic on its head in Nigeria merely because responsible leaders are forced to take unusual measures to combat corruption and lack of funds for what should be government's role and duties. Environmental day, for example, where the public come out to clean in Lagos, is not the norm in the world. It is the exception because the massive population of 20 million in the smallest State in Nigeria, i.e cash-strapped Lagos, has created abnormally huge challenges that requires innovative solutions and approach. For example, there is no regular environmental day in London and never has been for my decades-long association with the City. No one should make the statement below as if it is a fact when similar is not the case for any major city of the world where people pay their taxes and expect Government effort to match challenges the States/Cities face such as keeping public space clean and pollution-free. When it was adjudged that the air in central London was highly polluted and threatening the health of Londoners, the office of the Mayor introduced the ULEZ charge ( the ultra low emission zone charge) of £12.50 per day for only diesel vehicle that enter the zone in central London. This is a massive disincentive for diesel vehicle to enter the zone and this then helps to keep air pollution down. Government did not put the onus on citizen to suddenly make the problem go away and keep London air cleaner !!!!! Government of modern cities keep public space clean under normal circumstances not citizens even as citizens can help from adding to the problem by refraining from acts such as littering and public defecation. Unless of course MetaPhysical is talking of the most rural of Villages then I don't see any sense in his statement below let alone be calling others "Pigs" in relation to his factually wrong argument. citizens owe it to themselves to have a clean community |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 6:55am On Oct 29, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: Well, don't we already call Buhari a dictator? It's because of his high-handedness. People do not want to be bothered to demonstrate a disciplined lifestyle outwardly. When govt enforces discipline then people react by crying foul. Buhari does not know how to govern, he knows how to rule. He is lucky and smart, he sorrounded himself with people who are veterans and smarties of governance....they prop him up. For political expediency, Governors and LG Chairmen do not rule with high-handedness, typically they run a middle course and when they feel their pressure is producing an unfavourable public outcry they lean back and relax. They want to be popular so when they meet the people again in future for support they will not be abandoned for opponent. Governance is tough. Particularly in Lagos, it is not just the Governor that looses if his policy pushes the people away....the party also looses. Hence, the party rules Lagos and they put a proxy in Governor seat to execute their policies as a priority....but they also recognize the need of the individual to be a leader in his own right, so they accomodate the Governors plans for growth. In the end, a harmony between the two interests is what moves Lagos forward. In the case of Ambode, the party recognized and acknowledged his competency as a Governor and a well rounded performer. He was implementing policies out of order. For instance, the Epe development was not due for implementation but he did it. He was not listening to them. They even admitted that their Governor was not reachable, he does not respond to them. This is reason for replacing him. When you vote Governor the party name and symbol is on ballot, not name of the candidate. They wanted him out long ago but could not get him out, they did not have the power to do so. They waited for primary to defeat him, the party owns the primary and the election. They do not deny his abilities and capabilities, they just do not want a Governor that would go against the establishment. APC in Lagos is an establishment, it is different than APC in other states. APC in Lagos is fully enmeshed in Govt bureaucracy. PDP will find it difficult to Govern Lagos even if they won the race for Governor. Let me put it this way...Lagos State Secretariat in Alausa is APC Secretariat, period! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 7:00am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Oshigun: In those places you mentioned, people do not throw thrash all over. We are not talking about waste....we are talking about FILTH! The two are not the same. Govt is responsible for removing waste, people are responsible for cleaning their filth. Please rewind and follow the thread. The point made was on filth, not waste. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by valentineuwakwe(m): 7:04am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Truth is like pregnancy, it may take time to show but it must surely come out one day for all to see..... 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by jumobi1(m): 7:09am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: No he doesn’t. If anyone has a warped understanding, it’s you brother. 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by jumobi1(m): 7:12am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: Wrong again. Where do you live? In New York for example, the government cleans the filth in public spaces. The government is responsible for the upkeep of public spaces, whether waste or filth. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by jumobi1(m): 7:13am On Oct 29, 2019 |
NGpatriot: The guy has been writing a whole lot of nothing. It’s funny. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by Nobody: 7:15am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical: You're simply shifting the goal post to suit your flawed argument. You cannot be clever by half with me. Below is your post reproduced for all to see where you make it crystal clear citizens should clean their environment. I made it clear it is not the duty of citizens to clean their environment in major Cities and States of the world with public administration in place such as Lagos. It the the duty of the Government. Citizens can help by not littering and acting irresponsibly to add to the waste to be cleaned by Government agencies formed and deployed to do so. What you mean below is not vague and not at all statements you can hide behind the banner of "filth". You say citizens should "clean their own surrounding". They should not. Government must do that as this is what people pay taxes for. Simple as that and you don't have to craft facetious arguments to support your partisanship towards Ambode. Lagosians merely have the duty of helping to keep their surrounding clean by refraining from irresponsible actions that produces more waste than can be cleaned efficiently by the Government. Again, a blunder from you! It matters a great deal. I will repeat myself....citizens owe it to themselves to have a clean community. A governor or commissioner or LG chairman should never be chasing after people to clean their own sorrounding. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by festacman(m): 7:32am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:I stand by my write-up. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 7:38am On Oct 29, 2019 |
jumobi1: Let me ask you a question because looks like people are shifting goal posts here. First, did you follow the thread from beginning? Second, we talked about road maintenance and why citizens should harrass contractors, not governors. We then jumped into filth. Can you say to the world the reason Fashola was in Ladipo Market....was it about waste, or about filth? Lets keep focus at home and stop bringing japan and china into this. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by 77up(m): 7:40am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Cajal:I like your assertion here bro, only a fool will say wike of rivers State didn't support pdp elections in othe states. Arrogance killed that man...fact! 1 Like |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 7:47am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Oshigun: I dont write spontaneously, my ideas are well thought out before I post. Environment, community, sorrounding...are all synonymous words to describe space in relative proximity. Im going to ask you same question i posted in my last comment. When Fashola visited Ladipo Market, what did he tell them to do...and why was he there? Why did he not tell state agent, LAWMA, to clean that environment? The same reason he told the traders to "CLEAN THEIR FILTH"....im saying here it is not govt job to clean filth. People are responsible for their own cleaning of their environment, community and sorrounding. Govt removes waste.....not clean filth. Dude, im doubting your understanding....i believe you hold waste and filth to be same thing. Is that so? |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by Adrian98(m): 8:00am On Oct 29, 2019 |
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Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by galadima77(m): 8:16am On Oct 29, 2019 |
Demzlent: And you're crediting these to Ambode? Continue lieing you hear? |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by festacman(m): 8:18am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:How do you expect the communities to oversight contracts there not empowered by to do. Moreover, the communities are usually privy to how the contracts were negotiated and awarded. The Executive Governor has a job to do supervising and tracking implementation of budgetary allocation for possible intervention where necessary. The community can only give information to the governor on vital issues if they have access to him. The bucks stops on governor's table. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by hakeemhakeem(m): 8:27am On Oct 29, 2019 |
*So fashola will awarded contract and they will do it say something else. *they even dirty the Lagos for you not gotten second term. To Omode ba semi tan ani emo se oun |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 8:29am On Oct 29, 2019 |
festacman: Im addressing people that can understand values and a need to establish BEST PRACTICE. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by festacman(m): 8:30am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:Every society has its nuances. If our society is struggling with proper disposal of refuse for government to clear, then it is up to government to brainstorm on how best to create a system that works for our society. Lifting models developed to meet the needs and nuances of another society and applying them in our society may run short unless there adaptations and modifications. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by festacman(m): 8:33am On Oct 29, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:A knowledge, theory or perspective that is so esoteric that it cannot be easily and widely shared is not worth the ear of any rational person. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 8:54am On Oct 29, 2019 |
festacman: Well, rewind back to my post where I already said Lagos is dealing with far more population density and pressure than its facilities are designed to tolerate. So in the end infrastructures and amenities collapse under the burden of excessive usage. We cannot blame a Governor for half of these issues. Can we blame a Governor for allowing population to surge uncontrollably into Lagos? They stopped a truck with migrants and motorbikes the other day. In the end thy had to release them. Can we blame a Governor for blocked drainage filled with empty beer cans and gala wraps and nylon shopping bags? The state had environmental sanitation days. A resident sued and got court ruling to stop it. Citizens cheered the ruling. Whats a governor to do? Very few people understand how government currently work....how government is supposed to work....and how to close tha gap so government is working as very close as possible to a set of benchmarks. This is the ideal of BEST PRACTICE. I count myself in that very few. Citizens must not submit all their to-do list to government. If we do, the drive to rise "responsibly" against government becomes an expensive item and we will not be able to find it on the to-do list when we need it. This is exactly the situation in Lagos now. The spirit to oppose the excesses of Tinubu is there but the drive is not....because we already surrendered the governance of our own communities to the State, and when we did our drive for self-preservation went with it. |
Re: Why I Was Removed As Governor- Ambode by MetaPhysical: 8:58am On Oct 29, 2019 |
festacman: It can be shared as a lesson....but it cannot be taught as a culture. Values are groomed. |
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