eni4real:
Iniesta debuted in 2002 but he was not as regular as Messi was.. Despite the fact Messi debuted in 2004.. Messi was regular right from 2005 and head to the Ballon d'or podium in 2007..That is scary!!!

Xavi debuted in 1998 but was not regular because different stars was bought by the club.. .. Even in Ronaldinho's era, Deco was still playing ahead of Xavi... Xavi become more regular 2006/2007 season.. See the gap.. That is like a 9years wait...

Pedro?? Busquet?? These are players that make the team because of Guardiola philosophy of playing Barcelona Academy players... Guardiola chased Ronaldinho, Eto'o etc away... You think Pedro will play ahead of Eto'o in a Rjikaard team??

Messi is a player that Mbappe is trying to be now.. But he will have to keep doing that for the next 13 years to earn proper comparison to Messi, but I don't see him playing in France for that long or break Papppins' record in Ligue 1..

Ronaldo is a typical traveling player who look for dominant teams in each leagues to prove that he is the best...


But Messi is once In a lifetime player!!!

Lol you are shifting it to Guardiola philosophy of playing academy boys.

Messi isn't the youngest Barcelona debutant nor is he the youngest scorer in their history.

Ronaldo Nazario won Ballon d'Or at the age of 20 years, look at Mbappe what he's doing.
The truth is Messi can never perform aside Barcelona team.. You can see how he struggle with his Argentine side

NORSYK:



Lol you are shifting it to Guardiola philosophy of playing academy boys.

Messi isn't the youngest Barcelona debutant nor is he the youngest scorer in their history.

Ronaldo Nazario won Ballon d'Or at the age of 20 years, look at Mbappe what he's doing.
The truth is Messi can never perform aside Barcelona team.. You can see how he struggle with his Argentine side

I shifted nothing..

I only make that point for Pedro and Busquet(in fact Guardiola chased Yaya Toure away for him)..

Check my point on Xavi and Iniesta again... 1998 and 2002, Guardiola has not even smelt Coaching school that time!!!

Messi debuted in 2004, played regularly in 2005, scored El Clasico hatrick in 2006, mount Ballon d'or podium in 2007.. Tell me another Barcelona Academy product that achieved this...

I will wait....

Real Ronaldo was bought from PSV.. His Ballon d'or has nothing to do with Barcelona Academy..
We are discussing the famous comfort zone topic here...

If Barcelona is such a comfort Zone, Bojan Krick should be a multi Ballon d'or winner now..

Or probably be the highest goal scorer or assister in the history of Spain

Tomoyayi:


Simple question you can't answer.

SAFE

Portuguese Salah got carried by Eder in the final...

Even Dembele won the World cup as an handicap(complete handicap tho)

SincereBigot:
has yaya won the champions league? Lets start from there

Sure!!
He won the Champions League with Barcelona!!

You can't change history

eni4real:
I shifted nothing..

I only make that point for Pedro and Busquet(in fact Guardiola chased Yaya Toure away for him)..

Check my point on Xavi and Iniesta again... 1998 and 2002, Guardiola has not even smelt Coaching school that time!!!

Messi debuted in 2004, played regularly in 2005, scored El Clasico hatrick in 2006, mount Ballon d'or podium in 2007.. Tell me another Barcelona Academy product that achieved this...

I will wait....

Real Ronaldo was bought from PSV.. His Ballon d'or has nothing to do with Barcelona Academy..
We are discussing the famous comfort zone topic here...

If Barcelona is such a comfort Zone, Bojan Krick should be a multi Ballon d'or winner now..

Or probably be the highest goal scorer or assister in the history of Spain

Check out the other great players, they moved from their comfort of their clubs to other.
From the likes Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo Nazario, Theiry Henry, Klinsmann, Van Basten, Michael Owen, Rivaldo, George weah, Mitchell Platni, Dennis Bergkamp, David Beckham, Fabio Canavaro, kaka and CR7

NORSYK:



Check out the other great players, they moved from their comfort of their clubs to other.
From the likes Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo Nazario, Theiry Henry, Klinsmann, Van Basten, Michael Owen, Rivaldo, George weah, Mitchell Platni, Dennis Bergkamp, David Beckham, Fabio Canavaro, kaka and CR7

Pele is better than all of them combined..

And he did not move away from his "comfort zone" Santos

Someone like you will say Pogba is better than Paul Scholes

It's sad to see that nobody talks about football again,,,,, it is always all about Messi Messi Messi,,,,,,, Win - Messi, Lose - Messi, Bad - Messi, Best - Messi.....

Even his so called rival is always talking about him....

SMH

eni4real:
Sure!!
He won the Champions League with Barcelona!!

You can't change history

has he won the world best before?

Igbosmoker:
in Portugal Bernardo silver>ronaldo

Not true

Ronaldo - 2 cups
Bernardo - 1 cup

eni4real:
Pele is better than all of them combined..

And he did not move away from his "comfort zone" Santos

Someone like you will say Pogba is better than Paul Scholes

Oga Pele won for Brazil and also New York cosmos ... He didn't win all win santos alone

sssoulw:
It's sad to see that nobody talks about football again,,,,, it is always all about Messi Messi Messi,,,,,,, Win - Messi, Lose - Messi, Bad - Messi, Best - Messi.....

Even his son called rival is always talking about him....

SMH

Messi is the GOAT... Talking about him is expected!!!

He is a once in a lifetime player!!!

Jokerman:


Oga Pele won for Brazil and also New York cosmos ... He didn't win all win santos alone

Pele is a true definition of Comfort zone.. Born in Brazil, played all his active club career in Brazil..

Did i hear New York cosmos?? MLS .. Like Iniesta in Viesel kobe, that is a retirement tour...

Pele did everything from 1956 to 1974 (19 seasons) in Santos Fc...

You said Pele won for Brazil?? Yeah.. Even Iheanacho will win the World cup with Brazil if he played in the Brazilian national team of that era...
Pele played just 1 match in 1962 World cup, got injured and was not fit for the rest of the tournament.. Guess what? Brazil still won the World cup!!!

He was like Mbappe in 58
And also found himself in the most complete team in the history of World cup (1970 team)!!

Why won't he win??

Sultan5:


This is your opinion oga, not facts. When people talk about the Argentina stuff and blame only Messi I look at them as pained individual. There are other players in the team. Messi should have won the world cup by now, if you watched the world cup final between Arg and Germany. Messi played a wonderful pass to Higuain,leaving only him and the keeper. All Higuain had to do was put it in the back of the net but oga wasted the chance, if only he had scored there Arg would have won. But alas at the end of the match everyone blamed Messi as usual. The guy has really tried internationally for his country but when his teammates aren't playing with the half the passion or level they do in their club what do you expect. Man has tried, he didn't flop seriously in Arg as he has led them to several finals, his just been unlucky together with underpar teammates.arguero who scores alot for Man City but when he comes to Arg he doesn't play half as good. But no one talks about that, na only Messi must use head carry everything.

That by the way. This has been said before, and its something I really believe, Pele and Maradona won't have the feats they do now if they had played in modern football. But you are entitled to your opinion tho. But I totally disagree

Oga.. that's how South America football is, except Brazil then..they always build their team on the shoulders of a star player...Brazil, recently started messing up when they dumped their collective play pattern to focus on star players like Ronaldinho (2006) and Neymar (2014 & 2018).

As for Messi vs Ronaldo comparison, why many people would continue to regard Ronaldo EVEN THOUGH they know that Messi is a better player than him head and shoulder (even me inclusive) is because of his ability to take on new challenges!

Even you want to have an idea whether Messi would not match his Barca performance when he leaves for another club, take a good look at his contribution in National colours...
See eh! Barca since the era of Cryuff has has a blueprint in the way they play..each successive coach can only change very few things..but the whole essence remains the same.
Messi being a product of La Masia academy is used to that system...infact, he is the system itself.. that's why Manager's have leveraged on his presence to win trophies...the players understands his movement on pitch and vice versa...in Argentina, it's NOT the same... that's why you always see him 'struggling'...either him not understanding his players and vice versa.

Messi is too intelligent..so the only way Barca players measures up on the pitch is because they have a unified system which they follow.. something like him writing an exam with his head, and others with textbook..so that they can have nearly the same scores..

Ronaldo, can play for any team and still perform because he knows how to alter his game..in order to serve the team.

Whether you like it or not, at a point on his lifetime...he would REGRET not trying something new...Ronaldo speaks English, Portuguese, Spanish and now gaining speed with Italian..gained new cultural experience and so on due to his keeness to embrace change
Messi only speaks Spanish....


If you want to Motivate a child that hardwork pays..and how to continue seeking for professional growth and maintaining consistency ..who is a better example Messi or Ronaldo?? Messi is GIFTED..and trains like any average footballer..but Ronaldo goes the extra mile.


The bottom line is that Messi knows that things won't be the same for him again, if he leaves Barca..that place is just his safe zone and aboard.
Again, his numbers in Argentine shirt would continue to speak up AGAINST him.. meanwhile, Ronaldo is ALREADY a legend in Portugal team, Man Utd, Real Madrid and now he's writing a new history with Juventus..
All the people that couldn't play well with Messi in Argentine shirt like Higuain, Di Maria, Tevez, etc... Ronaldo played and Blossomed with them...even forming something new with Dybala...if Portugal had the kinda squad like Argentina, Ronaldo would have won at least 1 world cup, with several S/final from the 4 he has competed

Overall, he is the best... he's Inspirational, while Ronaldo is Motivational...

Beverlyjean:
He said it all... Let Messi go to another club whr everything wudnt b easy for him , then we gonna know his true worth... Every player plays for him in Barca , the tactics in Barca is made specially for him and that's y players like de Jong and greizman is finding it difficult ... Let him go to another club whr they also hv their star player and let's c if he will progress... To also has don it multiple times .. Messi should do sNe to prove he's the greatest... But his delusional fans on NL will insult the es goalie and Ronaldo like as if it was Ronaldo that asked the ex goalie to make the comment... Messi fans are like the blind uneducated illogical abokis supporting the government sheepishly

Messi should go to another club because of a nonentity like you? nope, won't happen.

eni4real:
Pele is better than all of them combined..

And he did not move away from his "comfort zone" Santos

Someone like you will say Pogba is better than Paul Scholes

Pele being better than all of them combined is understandable because he won Trophies with his Brazilian national team.
Can we say that about Messi?

eni4real:
Pele is a true definition of Comfort zone.. Born in Brazil, played all his active club career in Brazil..

Did i hear New York cosmos?? MLS .. Like Iniesta in Viesel kobe, that is a retirement tour...

Pele did everything from 1956 to 1974 (19 seasons) in Santos Fc...

You said Pele won for Brazil?? Yeah.. Even Iheanacho will win the World cup with Brazil if he played in the Brazilian national team of that era...
Pele played just 1 match in 1962 World cup, got injured and was not fit for the rest of the tournament.. Guess what? Brazil still won the World cup!!!

He was like Mbappe in 58
And also found himself in the most complete team in the history of World cup (1970 team)!!

Why won't he win??

Messi that has been playing with the best Argehtina team since 2006, what has he won??

Pele won 3 world cups... So swerve

NORSYK:


Pele being better than all of them combined is understandable because he won Trophies with his Brazilian national team.
Can we say that about Messi?

Remove Pele from Santos of 50s and the Brazil national team of 50's 60's and 1970,. and put Messi there... Messi would achieve more than Pele!!!!

There is nothing Pele has achieved individually that Messi has not achieved!!!
Team trophy??

Even Sunday Mba has an International trophy while Kanu never had!!!

It is called a 'team' trophy for a reason!!!

eni4real:
Remove Pele from Santos of 50s and the Brazil national team of 50's 60's and 1970,. and put Messi there... Messi would achieve more than Pele!!!!

There is nothing Pele has achieved individually that Messi has not achieved!!!
Team trophy??

Even Sunday Mba has an International trophy while Kanu never had!!!

It is called a 'team' trophy for a reason!!!

To me Pele isn't even the greatest footballer but I respect him especially by winning 3 world cups with Brazil. But is there anything Pele achieved individually which CR7 hasn't achieved and surpassed

CR7 has virtually won everything in football

Jokerman:


Messi that has been playing with the best Argehtina team since 2006, what has he won??

Pele won 3 world cups... So swerve

Best Argentina team??

The best Argentina team is that of 2002 and 1998 and they crashed out of the group stage and 2nd round of the World cup respectively...

2006: Pekerman did not even allow Messi to start, he did not play him against the German in the last game

2010: Maradona is a failed coach, I won't even talk about his childish rants and antics throughout the tournament

2014: Sabella did a great work on the team... Higuain tried In the tournament but flopped when it matter most.. He will never be a great striker like Bastituta and Crespo...
Irrespective, Messi won the World cup golden ball (All great player must win that award, very important)

2018: Tattoo Coach called Sampaoli lacked a bit of sense.. Caballero as a goalkeeper, Messi losing penalties, Higuain again, no show for Dybala.. They all flopped. . . And the is the worst Argentina team in the history of football.. Nigeria was supposed to trash them...
They stil managed to get to the 2nd round(best stage for most African countries)

Now tell me, how Messi has been playing with the best Argentina team in history

eni4real:
Bobby Charlton won the 1966 Ballon d'or na...

You can't change history

fifa best is wat m telling you about only ronaldo has ever won it in premeire league

Omoslim26:


fifa best is wat m telling you about only ronaldo has ever won it in premeire league

Award for the best player was Ballon d'or since 1950's before FIFA Introduced her own..

Hold on, which one do you prefer Ballon d'or or FIFA best award??

Your Answer will be interesting....

Last Monday loading..

I am waiting!!!

NORSYK:




To me Pele isn't even the greatest footballer but I respect him especially by winning 3 world cups with Brazil. But is there anything Pele achieved individually which CR7 hasn't achieved and surpassed

CR7 has virtually won everything in football

Pele won 1970 World cup golden ball..

Cristiano has never made top 3 of that award!!!

eni4real:
Award for the best player was Ballon d'or since 1950's before FIFA Introduced her own..

Hold on which one do you prefer Ballon d'or or FIFA best award??

Your Answer will be interesting....

Last Monday loading..

I am waiting!!!

i am telling a record dat only ronaldo has you are talking about preference

Omoslim26:


i am telling a record dat only ronaldo has you are talking about preference

Last Monday award

eni4real:
Pele won 1970 World cup golden ball..

Cristiano has never made top 3 of that award!!!

Probably that one, but CR7 has scored in each and every world cup he participated in, I don't know about Messi.. Has he?

jaxxy:
Not necessarily Madrid bt he has to prove himself outside Barca even if it’s his National team. Period!

but Pele is the best footballer ever seen.
and guess what he played for Santos all his life..

The most pained probably among numbers of goal keepers Leo sent to early retirement.

He still nurtures the bad blood even after countless plea to let go of the past.

eni4real:
Last Monday award

dat ojoro award wey dem give am no worry the equation go balance with balloon d ol�

NORSYK:


Probably that one, but CR7 has scored in each and every world cup he participated in, I don't know about Messi.. Has he?

World cup is the weakest link of Ronaldo.. .

1 World cup per tournament in 3 World cups (very poor as a goal poacher)..

Even Eusebio of Portugal had 9 World cup goals in one tournament!!!

Had a hatrick against his Madrid friends in 2018 World cup and then went blank against Iran... Scored 1against Morocco

7 World cup goals in 4 World cup tournament is very poor for a poacher!!!


Messi was not a regular player in 06
Played as a Playmaker in 2010
Played as a Playmaker in 2014 and still won the World cup golden ball!!!
Played poorly in 2018 but still managed to lead the team to the 2nd round..


World cup golden ball is the legacy of Messi just like Cruyff

Ronaldo world cup legacy is the one match wonder against Spain.. Apart from that, he has no World cup legacy!!!

World cup is Cristiano's weakest link in his career!!!

Omoslim26:


dat ojoro award wey dem give am
no worry the equation go balance with
balloon d ol�

You are no longer praising the FIFA best award again??

Check the Last Monday sir

LouisVanGaal:

Oga.. that's how South America football is, except Brazil then..they always build their team on the shoulders of a star player...Brazil, recently started messing up when they dumped their collective play pattern to focus on star players like Ronaldinho (2006) and Neymar (2014 & 2018).

As for Messi vs Ronaldo comparison, why many people would continue to regard Ronaldo EVEN THOUGH they know that Messi is a better player than him head and shoulder (even me inclusive) is because of his ability to take on new challenges!

Even you want to have an idea whether Messi would not match his Barca performance when he leaves for another club, take a good look at his contribution in National colours...
See eh! Barca since the era of Cryuff has has a blueprint in the way they play..each successive coach can only change very few things..but the whole essence remains the same.
Messi being a product of La Masia academy is used to that system...infact, he is the system itself.. that's why Manager's have leveraged on his presence to win trophies...the players understands his movement on pitch and vice versa...in Argentina, it's NOT the same... that's why you always see him 'struggling'...either him not understanding his players and vice versa.

Messi is too intelligent..so the only way Barca players measures up on the pitch is because they have a unified system which they follow.. something like him writing an exam with his head, and others with textbook..so that they can have nearly the same scores..

Ronaldo, can play for any team and still perform because he knows how to alter his game..in order to serve the team.

Whether you like it or not, at a point on his lifetime...he would REGRET not trying something new...Ronaldo speaks English, Portuguese, Spanish and now gaining speed with Italian..gained new cultural experience and so on due to his keeness to embrace change
Messi only speaks Spanish....


If you want to Motivate a child that hardwork pays..and how to continue seeking for professional growth and maintaining consistency ..who is a better example Messi or Ronaldo?? Messi is GIFTED..and trains like any average footballer..but Ronaldo goes the extra mile.


The bottom line is that Messi knows that things won't be the same for him again, if he leaves Barca..that place is just his safe zone and aboard.
Again, his numbers in Argentine shirt would continue to speak up AGAINST him.. meanwhile, Ronaldo is ALREADY a legend in Portugal team, Man Utd, Real Madrid and now he's writing a new history with Juventus..
All the people that couldn't play well with Messi in Argentine shirt like Higuain, Di Maria, Tevez, etc... Ronaldo played and Blossomed with them...even forming something new with Dybala... if Portugal had the kinda squad like Argentina, Ronaldo would have won at least 1 world cup, with several S/final from the 4 he has competed

Overall, he is the best... he's Inspirational, while Ronaldo is Motivational...

eni4real:
You are no longer praising the FIFA best award again??

Check the Last Monday sir

I have seen it nah how many times will I check it �
like I said d equation will be balanced with ballon de ol