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Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Ijaya123: 2:02pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Randy100: Your right. After citizens like you starts showing that you have sense. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by pek(m): 2:09pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
thatigboman:Israel not isreal |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by kripen(m): 2:11pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
AntiBalaka: I was in a discuss with some people 2day during the protest of students of university of Benin. I told them that they should not be surprised that the staged protest can be as a result of this ippis issue, so as to make it look like without their autonomy nothing tangible can happen in FG universities. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by EbubeSolo: 2:25pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Imagine NAIRALAND labelled this post 'ROMANCE'.����� |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by asunmoGGMU(m): 3:20pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
DTeekay: How do the country develop with this kind of people in our Federal Civil Service? |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Sholaco: 4:03pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
ASUU problem of the nation |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 4:16pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
sinkhole: 1. I personally have always wondered why governments (federal and state) don't use automated payroll systems to process salaries, as they are 99.9% effective at eliminating ghost workers, and creating better accountability due to the fact that systems are always created with audit trails. 2. There is absolutely no payroll system worth it's salt that handles payroll for different employee groups in exactly the same way - even in organizations of less than 1,000 across multiple subsidiaries. I bet you that very few of the 459 ministries and agencies already on IPPIS have their payroll processed in the exact same way - even within a single entity, there would be multiple variations. If ASUU is complaining that IPPIS cannot handle payment promotion arrears, specific allowances e.t.c, are they saying that folks in the other MDAs don't get paid arrears and allowances as well? 3. Why is it only ASUU that has come out to say an automated payroll system that absolutely no one has ever as much as labeled fraudulent, is tainted with fraud cos they dont want to be paid with it? 4. Unless the universities are self-funding, it doesn't make any sense to claim that cos of autonomy, they should not be paid on IPPIS. If anything, ASUU is promoting leaks in the government coffers to spend without accountability. 5. I can't say for a fact that foreign lecturers on sabbaticals would be paid via IPPIS, but even if then, ASUU should be fighting for improved efficiencies, not continuing to operate in the dark. 6. Lagos State Government has had something similar - Oracle for well over a decade - probably why you don't get to hear about ghost workers with their civil service. 6. Just so you know, I have worked on payroll implementations and management on a few ERPs, so I know exactly what I'm talking about. 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Holysholay: 4:39pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
ASUU resist IPPIS cos it affects University Autonomy. Let me just mention few points: 1. Lets assume staff is to b promoted to AP or Prof. cadre, their papers must be sent out for examination, this might sometimes take 1, 2 to 3 years. D ideal is dat their promotion wil b backdated to d date dey are supposed to be promoted and all arears paid. No provision for this in IPPIS. 2. Department might need lecturers urgently, d VC has d power to giv temporary appointment and such staff enters d university payroll system immediately... only God knows if d process involved in IPPIS wil giv room for dat. 3. During recruitment as also the case of point number 2, it is believed that even when d VC goes to abuja regarding staff recruitment, Gov Agency will b able to dictate to the University who is to b employed, afterall dey are d one incharge of data capturing. 4. D services of certain Profs are needed in d university, possibly due to d scarcity of experts in their field. d system log them out immediately.... 5. staff of other parastatals already captured on IPPIS claimed dat staff of the same cadre are getting different salaries... difference up to d tune of 60K. d technical know how is poor for now. 6. On point number 5, d university wil not b able to correct asap if such happen. Many on IPPIS claimed dey refer dem to Abuja to complaint, nd wen dey get there, dey send dem back to their parastatal... with no feasible solution. 7. etc 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Holysholay: 4:46pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Moreso, as many that has claimed that IPPIS is best. Let us suggest that the National Assembly, our senators be paid via IPPIS.... then we will know if its good or not. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Officialgarri: What are you saying? ![]() ![]() |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Officialgarri: 6:28pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
faceURfront:Face your front ![]() |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 8:02pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
The points ASUU is agitating for can equally be capture in the IPPIS scheme... No be just IT work? iT expert can write an IT program that will capture their yearnings as far as it is in accordance with the law. They just gave points that suites their own sentiment but what about working out modalities with the federal government to ensure the issue of ghost workers and double salary is nip in the bud... My children will not go to any of this government school... Because so many of them are just time waster... Can you imagine? 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by kripen(m): 8:32pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Gforce2015: Not only time waster , they are not innovative. Imagine universitie don we hope on to fine-tune modalities of moving this country forward technologically are the one bluntly against this ippis. This country is finished, Agriculture professor without farm, or Engineer professor who can't detect a minor electrical fault in a vehicle... |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Khaleell001(m): 8:48pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Randy100: Haba now. Look at the issue properly now. It shouldn't always be about Baba. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by obioraval(m): 9:03pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
AntiBalaka: Lolz. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 10:21pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
kripen: So much ignorance in one post ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Gforce2015: This shows you don't even have the facts of the matter. Some of you just like the sound of your voice, so all you do is just talk. Maybe it makes you feel good. Go back and do a bit of fact finding before you go to the public domain to offer an opinion. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 10:27pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
faceURfront: What is ASUU saying? Domesticate this IPPIS template in each university, capturing the perculiarities of the university system. Infact, ASUU told the FG they are willing to assist FG in doing this. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Japhet31: 11:28pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
AntiBalaka: Seriously? What field |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Rating(m): 11:41pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
Why does it seem FG is adamant and not ready to compromise on this IPPIS-ASUU ish? A system is only as good as the people running it. ASUU needs to make better media (educated) noise on their positions. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CaptainMitch: 11:59pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
I have extensive training on Ippis it's very rigid and controlled, you need training and retraining, I will be going for more training next week. Ippis is a payment platform, you acquire one IPPIS number and you use it for life, the problem is it's not easy to enlist people into IPPIS database easily so universities won't be able to recruit easily again. As soon as you are captured you start getting paid end of that month sinkhole: |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by tomdon(m): 12:49am On Nov 02, 2019 |
Why did the FG wait till now? It's long overdue ASUU has no valid point 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CodeTemplar: 12:57am On Nov 02, 2019 |
witsel4:Even Harvard with all her reputation still renders account to public talk less of ASUU and Naija universities. They are FG employees and they shouldn't dictate to their employers. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CodeTemplar: 12:59am On Nov 02, 2019 |
iAudio:How do you accommodate allowances that were granted mischievously and fraudulently as a result of the abused autonomy. Any reasonable allowance should be justified on the pages of papers also. 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CodeTemplar: 1:04am On Nov 02, 2019 |
ArcSEMPECJ:Not all of those allowances were granted by employer (FG) but by the lecturers themselves by reason of autonomy. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CodeTemplar: 1:41am On Nov 02, 2019 |
HospitalityDiva:One key modification I propose here is the use of fingerprint to ensure a lecturer is at the particular location he or she claims to be in. If a unified fingerprint system is available across all lecture halls, it becomes hard or impossible for lecturers to skip lectures themselves and it will go a long way in checking the menace of ghost lecturers dropping handouts with student until final two weeks of semester. That way FG can be sure they are doing the work they claim to be doing or at least aren't somewhere else. By the way, most of the allowances they are pushing for in the IPPIS were granted too softly only because they had autonomy to influence their own pay slip. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CodeTemplar: 1:47am On Nov 02, 2019 |
Sirwallace:Even the Unilorin 44 had their way against their employers. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 4:37am On Nov 02, 2019 |
CodeTemplar:you very correct. IPPIS will be shocked to see what they earn. But other points ASUU raised are valid too. 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 4:46am On Nov 02, 2019 |
faceURfront: You haven't said anything... 1 Like |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by Nobody: 6:57am On Nov 02, 2019 |
Gforce2015: Then your problems are many. Perhaps you need to take a crash course in Comprehension. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by sinkhole: 7:47am On Nov 02, 2019 |
CaptainMitch:you just said it, as ASUU has been shouting, "it is not easy to enlist people into IPPIS database"! Universities are peculiar and IPPIS, as it is currently, can not accommodate them! THERE MUST be VISITING academics, as it is done all over the world and for short period of time (six months) and they do not need to be enlisted on the payroll for life. |
Re: What Is IPPIS And Why Is ASUU Resisting It? by CaptainMitch: 7:51am On Nov 02, 2019 |
Yes and they will need super admin with access right on standby to solve any challenges, the people that run IPPIS at accountant general office treat workers badly so if there's any complaints it would take some time to be resolved. Each school should train an Ippis staff do background checks and give them wide ranging powers and everything is solved. sinkhole: |
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