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Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 1:39am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181: Why the "nah"? What did i say that you didn't agree with |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 6:55am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181:and? let me guess, your dog is not aggressive so the breed automatically isn't a good guard breed to you how old is your dog to begin with? |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 6:56am On Nov 01, 2019 |
vincentjk:he's saying Caucasian shepherds aren't good guard dogs |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by fowlyansh181(m): 7:17am On Nov 01, 2019 |
IamAnderson:i have a pedigree Caucasian, seven of mine friends have a pedigree Caucasian, few of my work colleagues have pedigree caucasians, caucasians are just large teddy bears.. mind you I also own other dogs /breed, they instinctively keep at alert and are very active guard dogs ... Age isn’t really a matter here any dog that will be a good guard dog starts showing signs from puppy hood, all my other dogs did and still do.. |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by fowlyansh181(m): 7:19am On Nov 01, 2019 |
vincentjk:i meant GSDs yes are good guard dogs, but Caucasian Nah, they are good alert dogs, but more of a large teddy bear... lemme not derail your thread or make it an argumentative place , you have a good thing going on.. |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 7:33am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181:first of all, you didn't answer the question secondly, Caucasians are not teddy bears, they are one of the most aggressive dog breeds and they are also good guard dogs. you can ask around and even check online, their are thousands of Caucasians that guard farms and households diligently. the breed was made to guard and that's what they have been doing, do you think when they are called wolf killers it's just a fun nickname? I've seen several stories like this, of people that because they see the impressive size of a Caucasian puppy they start expecting too much from the puppy ignoring the fact that it's a freaking puppy. when the puppy matures then they start complaining that their dogs are too reckless and stubborn and start asking for training tips. you can check here on NL all the "how do I make my dog aggressive" threads featuring Caucasian shepherd puppies, you'll see whether the situation changed with time or not. you can also check Facebook if you're not satisfied, you'll see the same thing. if you describe a Caucasian shepherd as a playful teddy bear then you don't know anything about the breed at all. if you're still not satisfied you can give me your phone number I'll send dozens of videos of Caucasians in action guarding their territories and tackling intruders 2 Likes |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by fowlyansh181(m): 8:57am On Nov 01, 2019 |
IamAnderson:caucasian mountain dogs ain’t no wolf killer that was in the old days , not anymore, I wouldn’t want to derail a great thread for the purpose of argument so I’ll leave it at that , forget all you see on Wikipedia/google and actually experiment with the dog, You can also check out this video And watch while listening closely ... Caucasian’s are large teddy bears , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMgFoNuheWE |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by agboedeh: 9:18am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181:pls don't derail this thread. Stop generalizing. let us focus on the topic of this thread and if u have any argument ,u will start a new thread about it. |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by space9880: 10:32am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181:it is not by buying a pedigree dog did you study the pedigree to know what you're getting? it is not written anywhere that all pedigree dogs must be aggressive |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by space9880: 10:45am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181: that German Shepherd is a goal |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 11:41am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181: You're wrong in saying this brother, caucasian uptill date are used to guard prisons in Russia and other farm and properties as well Some pedigree dogs may differ in temperament and in other qualities as well depending on how the dog was bred. I fear caucasian more than any breed in Nigeria as a whole because their aggression sometimes can be uncontrollable IamAnderson: He's generalizing based on his own experience which isn't a good thing, maybe his own is that way doesn't mean all Caucasians are same 2 Likes |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 11:46am On Nov 01, 2019 |
fowlyansh181:lmao ain't no wolf killer? olden days? if you're ready I'll show you very recent videos of them killing wolves and tackling and apprehending multiple intruders. and I actually have an adult Caucasian and I've also met many people who have adult Caucasians both online and in real life and they all have the same default setting so i don't know where you're getting your information from. the same website you brought up this video of a domesticated Caucasian I can also pull up several videos of domesticated pet pitbulls,rottweilers and dobbermans does it mean these breeds are also teddy bears? If you tell me you haven't seen videos of Caucasians working as guard dogs before I can show you several, including the ones I made myself at home with my dog. in fact, forget videos, you can ask other people that own adult Caucasians whether they are teddy bears let's see. stop spreading false information and narratives you don't have any idea about, before you make any claim online make sure you are capable of backing it up pls |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 11:49am On Nov 01, 2019 |
vincentjk:very true bro the annoying thing is that the pedigree Caucasian that he's talking about and calling teddy bear is a 4-5 month old female pup. and he's now saying, "have experience with the breed" like he has had the experience before lol |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 12:08pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
IamAnderson: Lol I bet that dog would turn a beast with time |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 12:15pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
IamAnderson: I'd like to see the videos pls |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 9:10am On Nov 02, 2019 |
vincentjk:if you have my number you can hmu on WhatsApp I'll send some to you |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by Eveezy(m): 12:04pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
IamAnderson:As much as it is true that Caucasian dogs were bred to be guardians, also realize that every breed of dog has pet quality, and more and more of them are being imported daily, The fact that a Caucasian isn’t aggressive does not only mean that it is impure or still a puppy. Some breeders desire looks(pet quality dogs) that will nt give stress in mating and during walks. So not all caucasians are good guard dogs 1 Like |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 12:08pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
IamAnderson: Ok Just send it to me 08061266987 |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 1:12pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
Eveezy:this is also true but some breeds are generally known as aggressive, there are rotts and Pitts that are pet dogs without signs of aggression but that doesn't mean you should describe the breeds as docile. it's part of the breed standard of the Caucasian shepherd to be aggressive, lack of aggression is seen as a fault. some dogs are not aggressive naturally irrespective of the breed but that doesn't mean the breed should be defined with them, if you want to make statements about a breed you should look at it from a wider view. not every individual dog is a good guard dog but there are breeds that are natural guard dogs in general. also I was emphasizing on the age of the pup because I've seen this happen too many times, people complain that the dog is docile when it's young but when the dog gets mature the true nature of the dog shows. most cases like this change completely when the dog matures, people are just too impatient most of the time forgetting that not all dogs develop the same time |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by Endy10(m): 1:52pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
First Aggression in a dog is a bad thing. Don't know why people think a dog being aggressive means it has good traits. A dog can be a good guard dog or watch dog without being an aggressive dog. Now that's how you know a well bred dog. Even a chihuahua can be aggressive. It doesn't have anything to do with the dog size. OP, I love Gustaf. I'm a sucker for Gsds. Hope you're giving him the necessary training. Would be nice if you posted some videos of him performing some basic commands |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by Endy10(m): 1:54pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
agboedeh: Exactly. That in a week should turn to in a day |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 3:30pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
Endy10: Nice comment you made up there. Gustaf is doing fine, making a video isn't really a problem rather uploading it here is One has to upload it on YouTube then before moving it here which is a stressful thing to do. Oga Seun we know that you're doing your best in fixing this site but please put more effort for the betterment of everybody. |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 5:16pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
Endy10:but aggression doesn't mean the dog has to be reckless ![]() a dog cannot be a guard dog without being aggressive, no matter how well trained a dog is, to defend it's territory or owner it'll have to show violence or willingness to be violent which automatically makes it an aggressive dog. I don't know why when people hear "aggressive" they think it means mindless violence, even the malinois that the us government used to thwart the plans of the terrorist few days ago had to chase and tackle the criminal, that is also a sign of aggression does it mean the dog isn't well trained?...no any dog that barks,growls or charges at targets whether human or animal or inanimate object is an aggressive dog, it doesn't have anything to do with training or skill, as far as the dog is showing violence or willingness to be violent, it's an aggressive dog. and a good guard dog has to be ready to switch to violence when necessary which means a dog cannot be a guard dog without being aggressive, aggression isn't a bad term to use to describe a dog, a dog can be aggressive and still be a balanced dog. i think what you should have said is, "every guard dog is an aggressive dog but not every aggressive dog is a good guard dog" 2 Likes
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Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 5:18pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
vincentjk:bro i hope you were kidding when you said you wouldn't update us on Augusto till December ![]() I'm already missing him |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 8:14pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
IamAnderson: Lols December sounds far because it's Christmas season but it's actually next month. I'm planning on buying augusto's direct sister too (the one i placed for sale last week). She's a brindle cute babe What do you think? |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by space9880: 11:39pm On Nov 02, 2019 |
vincentjk:can lead to litter mate syndrome |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by IamAnderson(m): 12:30am On Nov 03, 2019 |
vincentjk:ooh that pup was also nice too ![]() I think that's a good idea |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by agboedeh: 5:00am On Nov 03, 2019 |
space9880:pls explain |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by Toju200(m): 7:34am On Nov 03, 2019 |
Sorry y'all but I saw some arguments on whether Caucasians are not guard dogs and are Teddy bears.Who would say such.. In the Ranking of Top 10 Most dangerous dogs Caucasian is No1 Caucasian are very territorial And exhibit ferocious aggressive character if not properly controlled.They are Mini bears with an Amazing strength.Some of u know spark my Caucasian.im just imagining how strong he would be when he is an adult.Cos yesterday he broke his Iron chain and he's just 5months.i don't know how because I just came back and I say his chain in half...An iron one for dat matter. Secondly Top 10 biggest guard dogs Caucasian still retains the position as Number 1..Cos tell me is Caucasian just a teddy or a Guardian.. IamAnderson ur training tips is working ooo.I did test run yesterday evening. |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 8:02am On Nov 03, 2019 |
space9880: You mean if breeding should be done between the both of them? Make me understand bro |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by vincentjk(m): 8:04am On Nov 03, 2019 |
IamAnderson: Thanks brother, I saw what you sent on WhatsApp, will check it out later when I'm relaxed |
Re: Murphy the Boerboel and Gustaf the German shepherd by Carmit(m): 8:16am On Nov 03, 2019 |
IamAnderson:I hear Doberman's are prone to mental issues... Is this true? |
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