nzeobi:

even in the last election we saw how he dusted osibanjo in his pooling booth, APC even had to rely on bullion van and oshodi thugs to win.

RTSC:

You would be surprised.
Not everybody is a fool. Tinubu is not exactly a favourite in the north.

IGBOSON1:


Leaving aside who Buhari anoints as his successor for a moment...what do you think as an individual? Who do you think between the two of them is more fiscally prudent, not given to grandiose and obscene displays of power and wealth, and who would be less likely to use loopholes and opportunities in governance to enrich themselves and their cronies?

Your honest hand-on-heart answer.

Amaso99:
Tinubu, when you compare the states they govern before, Tinubu again and again

meccuno:
as a politician Tinubu is way ahead of peter obi. but when it comes to qualification, you cannot compare a donkey to a horse. the are not mates. the person comparing the two is not smart. that was how some delinquents were comparing iweala to adeosun. how foolish can one be?? can you box God?

Yinibixema:

No be only 45%. So yorubas go leave tinubu vote for Obi?

Oshigun:


Hogwash. Tinubu is a natural leader. Very intelligent, visionary and innovative. Most of you should actually go and read about his 8 year tenure as Lagos Governor instead of swallowing the lies PDP has somehow turned into truth for you ignorant lot because they have repeated those lies many, many times.

You wan't to talk about prudence? How did Lagos survive and even grow when the Vindictive OBJ withdrew the federal allocation accruing to the State for a long period of time? What obscene display of power are you talking of? You only hear or see Tinubu when he has to act. What display of wealth and self-enrichment? Is Obi not accused of using Anambra money for his private business i.e Sab Miller? Once again, Igbo hypocrisy on show.

Tinubu will transform Nigeria with his grand plans and strategy. Obi is at best a stilted accountant. Tinubu is the closest thing to Awolowo Nigeria has today. Whether Tinubu become President is not my call but I know, as someone who is focused on real and tangible things we have all seen, he will make a great President. Certainly the best we have had since 1999.

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/111122/alleged-fraud-ex-lawmaker-sues-obi-others-over-n5bn-brewer.html


http://saharareporters.com/2009/06/06/anambra-citizens-petitions-efcc-over-peter-obis-stealing-state-funds

nzeobi:

in the last presidential election we saw it despite the fact that osibanjo and tinubu are from the SW pdp still had a good showing in the SW even lagos had to rely on bullion vans and oshodi thugs,

Yinibixema:

You’re brain dead. South west voted for Pdp because of atiku especially Oyo State not because of obi. If you’re intelligent, you should know that yorubas won’t vote an Igbo man whether he’s the better candidate or not, so how do you plan to get 45% with peter obi who isn’t even popular in south west

nzeobi:

the reason they voted atiku is the reason they will vote obi.
what he needs is to win oyo and ondo, and get good votes in lagos, ogun, osun, and ekiti.
get 75% in SS/SE and then target 50% in the north.

RTSC:

Peter did more for anambra than tinubu did for Lagos when you compare them pound for Pound.

It is a no brainer. Obi all the way.

Has more integrity, has more character.

Amumaigwe:


Igbo business men, contributing massively to Lagos IGR, is the reason Lagos appears to be a progressive state.

nzeobi:

you just said things that will make you happy, obasanjo did not withhold lagos states money , he only refused to approve LGA funds cos tinubu created LGAS himself which as at then was alien to the constitution and caused crises.
and as for investing state funds into family business, let me ask you is peter obi the owner of sabmiller ?
please watch a video of the candidates with kadaria ahmed so you will learn more.

LG Funds: Obasanjo, a Lawless Leader, Says AD
By Sheriff Balogun, 03.03.2005


As the Federal Government continues to with hold allocation of Local Government Councils in Lagos State despite court ruling ordering the release the Alliance for Democracy (AD), has described President Olusegun Obasanjo as a lawless leader who does not respect the rule of law.


In a release signed by its National Publicity Secretary Prince Dayo Adeyeye, said president Olusegun Obasanjo has again stubbornly restated in his monthly media television chat to disobey the Supreme Court ruling ordering the release of the Lagos State local government Funds which he has illegally withheld for about a year now.

A few days after President Umar Musa Yar�Adua reportedly ordered the cancellation of the controversial sale of the Port Harcourt and Kaduna refineries, he has directed the Accountant-General of the Federation, Alhaji Ibrahim Dankwambo, to immediately release to Lagos State government its seized local government funds amounting to N10.8 billion.

Former President Olusegun Obasanjo had ordered the withholding of almost N33 billion of the state�s local government funds over the creation of local government areas. Although the state later reverted to the original 20 local government areas, while converting the new ones to development areas, Obasanjo only ordered the release of a part of the money. He refused to obey the order of Supreme Court for the release of the funds.

nzeobi:

the reason they voted atiku is the reason they will vote obi.
what he needs is to win oyo and ondo, and get good votes in lagos, ogun, osun, and ekiti.
get 75% in SS/SE and then target 50% in the north.

Yinibixema:

The problem with most of you is that you will never accept the truth. Oyo State most precisely and other south western states would never vote an Igbo man. Some people still have some love for atiku in south west. Most people don’t even know obi in south west

RTSC:

Peter did more for anambra than tinubu did for Lagos when you compare them pound for Pound.

It is a no brainer. Obi all the way.

Has more integrity, has more character.

Oshigun:


Simple !!!! Which Yorubas will vote Obi over a Yoruba candidate in Oyo? This is the Presidency we are talking of and not VP abeg.

nzeobi:

in the last presidential election we saw it despite the fact that osibanjo and tinubu are from the SW pdp still had a good showing in the SW even lagos had to rely on bullion vans and oshodi thugs,

IGBOSON1:


"Who do you think between the two of them is more fiscally prudent, not given to grandiose and obscene displays of power and wealth, and who would be less likely to use loopholes and opportunities in governance to enrich themselves and their cronies?" These are the criteria i listed, and asked you who between Tinubu and Obi would you say has exhibited these traits in leadership! Anyone would tell you that any leader that doesn't exhibit these traits is anything but exemplary, but Quotasystem thinks otherwise and avoided giving me a direct answer.

Instead you told me you have your own list of character traits of a good leader, and went on to list, ".....leadership acumen, antecedents of raising leaders, and alignment with my interests...." Mostly non-specific, broad-based and self-centred!

QuotaSystem:


Actually, both are non-starters as far as I am concerned. I've emphasized I'm more inclined towards an Osibanjo or Adeshina (if we're lucky enough).

To choose the lesser evil of the two however, which political logic dictates will be based on who's more likely to protect my interests; it will undoubtedly be Tinubu - the one that is not backed by a horde of zoo chanting, caustic tongued ipob apologists.

IGBOSON1:
Basically, you're saying your self-interest is at variance with national-interest if you emphasis on 'my interests'! What are these 'interests' if you don't mind me asking?

IGBOSON1:
I don't know why you keep harping on about 'effeminate' whatever! All the he-men and macho-men Nigeria has had since 1960, where has it gotten us? I think it's laughable that one of your hallmarks of a good leader is that he should have a baritone voice and assert his manhood at any given opportunity....probably be swinging his dick at public functions while saying, 'hey, look everybody...i'm a man'! It says a lot about you that you would pick a blundering and incoherent Buhari over a bold and assertive Peter Obi all because Peter Obi has a higher-pitched voice than Buhari! Nice to see where your priorities lay!

IGBOSON1:
I think it's a bit rich....a Buhari minion having the gall to accuse Peter Obi of being a bigot! Pray, in what way has he exhibited this bigotry? Buharis' bigotry is as clear as day, and it's decades old since he started from the 60s to exhibit it! Everyone knows of his clannishness, nepotism and intense dislike of the Igbo so it's not something we need to go over again right here!

IGBOSON1:
Are you unaware of the bullion vans seen going into Tinubus' residence on election day? Are you unaware of the unsavoury questions that followed him back from his sojurn in the US? Are you unaware of his bigoted and anti-Igbo statement and the actions of his thugs during the last set of elections in Lagos earlier this year? Are you unaware of the daylight robbery that passed for elections in Osun state? Are you unaware of how he's fleecing Lagos State though his Alpa-Beta coy? You talk of him 'raising leaders'? For this Naija wey you and me dey so? Just who are these sterling leaders he's raised? I'm dying to know!

IGBOSON1:
Your problem is that you just don't like Igbos...and that's fair enough, as i equally don't like the Fulani (primarily b'cos of people like you and Buhari)! The difference between us though is that whereas i have realised the situation is untenable and believe we should end the abusive marriage and go our separate ways; you on the other hand still wants 'one Nigeria' yet are vehemently opposed to a Igbo becoming your president! You would always find a reason to justify your bigotry....if it's not that the Igbo candidate has a high-pitched voice, then it would be that he walks funny!

Oshigun:


You are not a very good analyst at all. All your talk just display the hallmark of sentimental and emotional arguments Igbos prefer above rational thinking. Many Yorubas were disillusioned with Buhari's first term and wanted change of power. Will Buhari be running in 2023?

2019 voting was testimony to the political sophistication of the Yorubas. Many felt Buhari did not do well enough and I agree with them. Where we differ is that I felt he is best till 2023 and I am sure Atiku is worse and would open the floodgate to the mindless looting PDP are used to.

In 2023 it will be new players who have never been President so forget the SW voting healthily for Obi. Atiku and Obi benefitted from the underperformance of PMB in some section and the crippling recession PDP caused before they left that Buhari could not do much to reverse in the time frame many Nigerians hankered for.

Yinibixema:

Don’t mind them. They expect yorubas to leave tinubu and vote obi because obi Na angel

RTSC:

Pick a struggle.

Don't call us biafrans when you feel like, and call us Nigerians when it favours you.

I hope you are not depending on a biafran in anyway.

Baztardmods:

Thank you for schooling that guy, his problem is that he is a self centered tribalist, someone who would see white and call it black

nzeobi:

I made my point but you wrote a long epistle talking of my tribe. When pdp had a fair outing in the SW was it not a SE VP against a SW VP?

Oshigun:


Bruv, leave them. Their eyes will clear in 2023. I am secretly hoping PDP suffer a moment of madness and give SE their ticket even as I know this is impossible and likely a Yoruba will have to slug it out with a PDP Northerner.

Igbos forget this is the almighty and all-powerful Presidency and not VP . They think because other Nigerians adjudge Yorubas sophisticated voters, we will then be foolish enough to sell out our own. Let it even be an unknown Yoruba shoemaker running and Obi would still get no change out of the SW in 2023. Sadly for the Igbos, the PDP know this as well and won't give their ticket to an Igbo man.

Right now, and perhaps for the next twelve years, no Igbo can win a presidential election in Nigeria unless the two major candidates field Igbos. Even then turnout will likely be the lowest, by far, in Nigeria's history. that is how much of damaged goods Igbos are politically today.

QuotaSystem:




You hate Yoruba. You hate Hausa. You hate Fulani. You do not want to build bridges or seek alliances, yet you want Northern + Western votes and support for Biafra/Igbo presidency. Are you okay? Good-luck with achieving that without the diplomacy you're all too conceited and hubris-choked to practice.

Oshigun:


Typical Igbo man chest-beating based on nothing but ego and ignorance. Can you supply both mens qualification here and where they have worked and who they have led so the forum can judge your childish and clannish submission? Or is this going to be another case of Igbos bragging emptily and not being able to back talk with hard facts?

Oshigun:


Typical Igbo man chest-beating based on nothing but ego and ignorance. Can you supply both mens qualification here and where they have worked and who they have led so the forum can judge your childish and clannish submission? Or is this going to be another case of Igbos bragging emptily and not being able to back talk with hard facts?

meccuno:
because tinubu is your leader does not mean that there are no people who are more educated than he is. and Yorubas always have this crappy metality that tey are the only ones that go to school is very ridiculous. there is no area in which you would call your people which an igbo man is not well represented. so if Peter Obi has a well robust cv compared to him is that a crime against humanity? we dont do hero worship keep that to your self and i still maintain my stand.