Agreed.

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But why do you expect FIFA to help us? Now this is what I'm talking about when I said we should not expect handouts. These boys are considered adults when they make their decision.

charlesemeka85:


I agree to the bolded but it's only folks here who talk about pride always. The aim of this Europeans is to stock pile talented kids of immigrants for the purpose of leaning on them if their pan out to be world class in the near future.

I hv stated in previously in this forum for the need to incorporate this kids to our various national teams when they are yet to hit stardom but I was called all sort of names for suggesting such.

Germany few months ago invited an unproven Felix agu to their u21 team just because he had a positive discussion with Rohr to represent Nigeria and was penciled down for the Ukraine friendly.

The same with the case of ebere eze, danjuma and now adama traore. Fifa really needs to look into this matter seriously and that won't happen unless CAF makes the move.

Imagine ex barca youngster munir left in limbo just because Spain rushed and capped him which denied him the chance to represent Morocco at the last world cup and have since then overlooked for call up to the Spanish national team.

Look at the case of dele alli now who have been abandoned because of the emergence of Maddison and Mount.

Also I blame the advisers and parents of this kids who fell advise this kids well to weigh their options very well before rushing to decide.

CAF really needs to approach fifa to find a lasting solution to this nonsense. This kids were born and groomed in Europe doesn't mean that they must be cajoured to dump the country of their parents when it's obvious they won't have a long and fullfilling career with the national teams of their country of birth.

FIFA have to make changes to the change of allegiance process by allowing this kids to change allegiance to the country of their parents with ease even when they have featured for the Europeans at the u21 level. Also a player must acquire up to 10 caps subsequently in the national team of their choice before they will be tied for life to that country and their club management must not interfere in their decisions.

If traore is cap tied now by the Spaniards and Rodrigo returns tomorrow what becomes of the former?

Joebie:
Agreed.

I don't think think it will happen. Rather UEFA may have their way to getting us to pay them taxes...
These boys are not minors when they make their decisions to represent one country.

charlesemeka85:
CAF really needs to approach fifa to find a lasting solution to this nonsense. This kids were born and groomed in Europe doesn't mean that they must be cajoured to dump the country of their parents when it's obvious they won't have a long and fullfilling career with the national teams of their country of birth.

FIFA have to make changes to the change of allegiance process by allowing this kids to change allegiance to the country of their parents with ease even when they have featured for the Europeans at the u21 level. Also a player must acquire up to 10 caps subsequently in the national team of their choice before they will be tied for life to that country and their club management must to interfere in their decisions.

If traore is cap tied now by the Spaniards and Rodrigo returns tomorrow what becomes of the former?

charlesemeka85:
This Europeans no dey shame? Imagine Spain inviting a player from lowly wolves just to stop him from being capped by Mali? This one na desperation oooo lolz

I think fifa have to readdress this this nationality issue because it makes no sense tying down a player who won't be an integral part of your team just to wade off interest from his other affiliated nations.

I tire for spain ooo

Even some players wey play pass traore dem no call ooo

No mind spain abeg

Joebie:
Adama's stats have been pretty decent. He scored a brace against Man City away amongst other exploits in Champions League qualifiers. Although I don't know who he comes against in the Spainish national team, but he's grown the ranks of the Spanish junior national team. Let's stop to assume Spain just dey dey try prevent Mali from getting him, why e be say Nigeria dey shame if all these European countries no dey shame?

To be sincere adama is not good enough for spain

I no understand this your mentality, so because he score brace against mancity don turn achievement ?

Adama has not even done what inaki williams,iker munian has done self or cellejon and they could not even get more appearance

Adama is about to waste his international career

charlesemeka85:
And where have Spain been all this while but only gave him a call up to just because he has opened talks with Mali?

He was called up to replace Rodrigo who is currently injured but those that mean the Spanish national team selectors can't fish out another Spanish young talent from the almighty laliga to replace Rodrigo instead of stooping so low to invite a player from wolves?


In your own valuation do you think traore is good enough to have a long career with the Spanish national team? Why is the call this sudden? Because he scored a brace against man City made it good enough for Spain?

Go relax abeg

Lol to be sincere this joebie is a very funny dude

Can you imagine what he is saying self ?

There are players better than this traore, this spanish must be doing something fishy, adama has not been better than deulofeu this season self

Spain skip pure spanish boys like azoye perez and deulofeu for adama traore

All I am saying is allow the kids to weigh their options and choose what's best for them rather than using and dumping them.

The final decision is made by the kids and their advisers but the European FAs do alot of underground work behind the scene to convince this kids of which their club managements re involved as well.

I could remember when eze was called up to the English u20 side he was granted an interview and he said he wants to represent Nigeria in international football which surfaced in qpr's official site but was taken down immediately. I saw it myself and no be hear say

The next day Eze accepted the English call up.

Joebie:
I don't think think it will happen. Rather UEFA may have their way to getting us to pay them taxes...
These boys are not minors when they make their decisions to represent one country.

Exactly my brother. Caf needs to rise to this nonsense

andrewbaba44:


Lol to be sincere this joebie is a very funny dude

Can you imagine what he is saying self ?

There are players better than this traore, this spanish must be doing something fishy, adama has not been better than deulofeu this season self

Spain skip pure spanish boys like azoye perez and deulofeu for adama traore

if he were 23 and a Nigerian won't you say he is promising?
So Spain should not tie him down? To help Mali? They don't have an obligation to help Mali with a player that has grown through their ranks.
Oga this world is never fair. If u no compete u go lose out.

andrewbaba44:


To be sincere adama is not good enough for spain

I no understand this your mentality, so because he score brace against mancity don turn achievement ?

Adama has not even done what inaki williams,iker munian has done self or cellejon and they could not even get more appearance

Adama is about to waste his international career

charlesemeka85:
Oga this is just a plot to stop the guy from turning out for Mali, it's obvious.

He scored against man City and then what? You and I watch football and know the strenght and playing style of the best national teams in the world so do you think or see traore having a long career with the Spaniards?

Lets just be factual here instead of been logical. Do you think traore would have been called up to the Spanish national team if Mali re yet to approach him?

Lol you are spot on bro

Joebie:
if he were 23 and a Nigerian won't you say he is promising?
So Spain should not tie him down? To help Mali? They don't have an obligation to help Mali with a player that has grown through their ranks.
Oga this world is never fair. If u no compete u go lose out.

Nigeria is not spain, nigeria wey dey fight for ebere eze

You know how many players spain get?

Nigeria wey dey fight for championship bang average player na him you wan compare their situation with spain

Netherlands nko did something fishy at the U17.. make we dey look if u like no catch them young, then complain to UN when yawa gas. if u no help urself, who go help you?

andrewbaba44:


Lol to be sincere this joebie is a very funny dude

Can you imagine what he is saying self ?

There are players better than this traore, this spanish must be doing something fishy, adama has not been better than deulofeu this season self

Spain skip pure spanish boys like azoye perez and deulofeu for adama traore

i no dey argue about Adama competition for Spain. I don talk am since say I no know who he come against.. but whether you complain from here to Jericho these Europeans will keep doing these things.. They have set the foundation to keep as much talents as they can to themselves. Make we dey look as we no sabi develop our own football for homefront.

andrewbaba44:


Nigeria is not spain, nigeria wey dey fight for ebere eze

You know how many players spain get?

Nigeria wey dey fight for championship bang average player na him you wan compare their situation with spain

Joebie:
Netherlands nko did something fishy at the U17.. make we dey look if u like no catch them young, then complain to UN when yawa gas. if u no help urself, who go help you?

Lol

your matter weak me

i dey tell u the reality.. our own na to complain..

andrewbaba44:


Lol

your matter weak me

He grew through their ranks but currently is he good enough for them? Why the sudden call up now that the Mali fa have stated discussion with him and the outcome looks positive?

Is traore better than uncapped Spanish young stars scattered in laliga and other top leagues in Europe?

Joebie:
if he were 23 and a Nigerian won't you say he is promising?
So Spain should not tie him down? To help Mali? They don't have an obligation to help Mali with a player that has grown through their ranks.
Oga this world is never fair. If u no compete u go lose out.

TheSuperNerd:
Time will tell. But if he does that, then he just played Mali. I wonder what generation supports men who pretend about a decision to commit to a nation being their best and their heart's choice only to see them exposed when a "glittering, cannot resist" offer of nationality change comes calling.

If Mali and Adams had no agreement and unveiling with him giving him their words, then I will have no issues with him accepting Spain. But it turns out Adama will be proven an opportunist only out for material fame and not the true fame that comes with wanting and having a truly blessed international career, if he indeed goes back on his Mali allegiance and chooses Spain.

According to report he was still discussing with Mali they only pushed out the report to put pressure on him.

Joebie:
Let's hear from the horse' mouth

Wolves' Adama Traore called up for Spain qualifiers
Last Updated: 10/11/19 12:09am



Wolves winger Adama Traore has received his first call up to the Spain national team.

Traore, who came up through the Barcelona youth ranks, replaces the injured Valencia forward Rodrigo in Roberto Moreno's squad for their Euro 2020 Qualifiers against Malta and Romania.

The 23-year-old has represented Spain, the county where he was born, at various youth levels but is also eligible to play for Mali.

Reports had emerged this week Traore had elected to play his international football for Mali, but he insists that is not entirely accurate.

"The truth is I've spoke with Mali, but I didn't sign anything," Traore told the Express and Star.

"I've been in contact with them and they've shown interest. There has been a bit of confusion. I haven't decided yet."


Traore left Barcelona in 2015 to join Aston Villa, who he will come up against playing for Wolves on Sunday, live on Sky Sports.

After a season at Villa, Traore moved on to Middlesbrough before being signed by Wolves in 2018.

--SkySports

Leave all this talk, if Spain didn't call him he'd go ahead to represent Mali. When the report of his switch of allegiance surfaced during the week why didn't he put out a statement? See these players have allegiance to where they grow up.

Joebie:
Adama's stats have been pretty decent. He scored a brace against Man City away amongst other exploits in Champions League qualifiers. Although I don't know who he comes against in the Spainish national team, but he's grown the ranks of the Spanish junior national team. Let's stop to assume Spain just dey dey try prevent Mali from getting him, why e be say Nigeria dey shame if all these European countries no dey shame?

Funny enough he was called as a replacement for an injured player so he's not exactly in their plan

Joebie:
Personally, this is how I see it. Let me use investments as an analogy, if you see a promising stock would you not consider investing in it?
If you feel there is something special about a player and you are in danger of losing the player and you MAY regret it in future won't you go for him? The problem is when we think these countries should give us a handout and make things easy for us. It's never been so. It's always competition even from pre-colonial years.

Africa need to wake up and really compete in every regard and stop talking about PRIDE.

Even if we have good facilities and all, these European countries have more prestige and money so it's a no brainer that they choose to follow the more prestigious one and no footballer will think he's not good enough to compete with the best

andrewbaba44:


Lol to be sincere this joebie is a very funny dude

Can you imagine what he is saying self ?

There are players better than this traore, this spanish must be doing something fishy, adama has not been better than deulofeu this season self

Spain skip pure spanish boys like azoye perez and deulofeu for adama traore

I swear, it's what Yoruba call aje ke lana omo ku leni

Joebie:
i no dey argue about Adama competition for Spain. I don talk am since say I no know who he come against.. but whether you complain from here to Jericho these Europeans will keep doing these things.. They have set the foundation to keep as much talents as they can to themselves. Make we dey look as we no sabi develop our own football for homefront.

I agree, they have the right to play them because they actually groomed them

see as he call am pure Spanish boys.. our prejudice pass their own oh lol

i don't care about what i dont understand lol.

jihday:
I swear, it's what Yoruba call aje ke lana omo ku leni

o pari

jihday:
I agree, they have the right to play them because they actually groomed them

Some of these boys want to play for us during their younger years. But we are not serious about anything. Not serious at developing our football and not alert when the opportunity is open to capture some fine talents. There is not need for the complaining and blaming of players. Anyway I'm glad we were lucky to get Aribo. I will rather have Aribo than Eze. Hopefully we get Ejaria as well.

charlesemeka85:
All I am saying is allow the kids to weigh their options and choose what's best for them rather than using and dumping them.

The final decision is made by the kids and their advisers but the European FAs do alot of underground work behind the scene to convince this kids of which their club managements re involved as well.

I could remember when eze was called up to the English u20 side he was granted an interview and he said he wants to represent Nigeria in international football which surfaced in qpr's official site but was taken down immediately. I saw it myself and no be hear say

The next day Eze accepted the English call up.

charlesemeka85:
Madam u dey watch Ball no mean Say u Sabi the business aspect of it. United is a very rich club and a renowned brand in world football.

Have you asked yourself why maguire dished Leicester for mediocre man untd? Also Maddison and chillwill may follow suit next summer.

[b]History no help you because u re ignorant/b] of it cus if you ain't u will pray and hope ndidi dump Leicester for a massive clubs as united and arsenal.

Like i pointed out earlier big clubs do face challenges which may last decades before it is rectified. The likes of Liverpool, almighty real madrid, barca, Juventus, ajax just to mention a few had dark periods but bounced back to what they were known of in European football.

Tommorow you will argue with me that spurs is a bigger club than arsenal and Chelsea because of their good run in the league and Europe in the last 2-3 seasons or Atalanta is bigger than inter and AC milan

What is with all this attack of my person? Is it because I said who history epp?

If you don't agree with my post, that is fine, but all these personal attacks are highly unnecessary Ova

You are pumping your chest with pride because you supposedly sabi history of foreign football, but what do you know of your local football? You are learning another man'a history with pride, you sabi their history pass them?

In everything you said, you did not answer, what if their dark days last thirty years? Why should Ndidi go to those clubs and not to the other clubs like City and Liverpool? Or is he only good for clubs that have history and no clear future?

I repeat, who history epp? Do you know how many good players Liverpool bought in all those their years of drought and nothing came of it? Since Maguire ditched Leicester like you claim, has it elevated United?


You wey sabi the business of football, I hope you are at the helm of affairs in these clubs. Ndidi should sit down in Leicester and work with them, not run to United because of a few extra coins or a history of shady calls and referee bias. Football is not by big name, job satisfaction is also a thing, and I can't imagine anyone being satisfied in that United team for now.

As long as Ole is at the wheel, I repeat, Ndidi has no business in Manchester United. I know some people are always stuck in the past and enjoy past glory more than the present. History gb'oku, oga Sabinus

charlesemeka85:
CAF really needs to approach fifa to find a lasting solution to this nonsense. This kids were born and groomed in Europe doesn't mean that they must be cajoured to dump the country of their parents when it's obvious they won't have a long and fullfilling career with the national teams of their country of birth.

FIFA have to make changes to the change of allegiance process by allowing this kids to change allegiance to the country of their parents with ease even when they have featured for the Europeans at the u21 level. Also a player must acquire up to 10 caps subsequently in the national team of their choice before they will be tied for life to that country and their club management must not interfere in their decisions.

If traore is cap tied now by the Spaniards and Rodrigo returns tomorrow what becomes of the former?

You overrare CAF

CAF has no powers in FIFA. CAF is small fry, nobody listens to small fry, if dem talk finish, dem go dey go house and nothing will happen.

All national FA's should help themselves and stop waiting for FIFA to baby them. If you cannot do grunt work to get the player, then find another one.

It's only Africans that always want someone to step in for them or intercede in one way or another. Get your shit together and stop looking for special treatment

charlesemeka85:
ndidi is underrated

What do you expect, he's not British, Brazilian, or white.

TheSuperNerd:

I agree... Let's carry out a survey abi...

Okay... Let's check something...

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Why did they not vote for him during nomination?

You guys can't even practice Small democracy here but are quick to insult real politicians.

All the 13 people that liked this comment had the opportunity to vote for him but didn't, now trying to break Democratic rules.

If he's not there or not really available, won't life continue?

Make una respect una self jare.

charlesemeka85:


I agree to the bolded but it's only folks here who talk about pride always. The aim of this Europeans is to stock pile talented kids of immigrants for the purpose of leaning on them if their pan out to be world class in the near future.

I hv stated in previously in this forum for the need to incorporate this kids to our various national teams when they are yet to hit stardom but I was called all sort of names for suggesting such.

Germany few months ago invited an unproven Felix agu to their u21 team just because he had a positive discussion with Rohr to represent Nigeria and was penciled down for the Ukraine friendly.

The same with the case of ebere eze, danjuma and now adama traore. Fifa really needs to look into this matter seriously and that won't happen unless CAF makes the move.

Imagine ex barca youngster munir left in limbo just because Spain rushed and capped him which denied him the chance to represent Morocco at the last world cup and have since then overlooked for call up to the Spanish national team.

Look at the case of dele alli now who have been abandoned because of the emergence of Maddison and Mount.

Also I blame the advisers and parents of this kids who fell advise this kids well to weigh their options very well before rushing to decide.

I don't support the view that we should invite them when they are yet to hit stardom. Are you trying to tell me we ain't good enough for them when they are doing well? We need to set a boundary.. Enough is enough. Naija nor be dumping ground for "foreign born wey nor dey do well". We deserve the best and if they don't wanna play for us when they are at their best, they should go ahead and do whatever they like but they should never dare to look at us when they are at their worse.

This attitude of "we need to get this foreign born players" should stop joor. It is starting to piss me off honestly. There was no single foreign born player in our 1994 squad and we did remarkably well to the extent we were the 5 best football team in the world. Abeg make una bone this foreign born players especially the one wey wan use our head get attention.

Imagine adarabioyo trying so hard to get our attention and the moment we flirt back, he go use am as opportunity to get England attention.

kellycute:
This attitude of "we need to get this foreign born players" should stop joor. It is starting to piss me off honestly. There was no single foreign born player in our 1994 squad and we did remarkably well to the extent we were the 5 best football team in the world. Abeg make una bone this foreign born players especially the one wey wan use our head get attention.

Imagine adarabioyo trying so hard to get our attention and the moment we flirt back, he go use am as opportunity to get England attention.

At this time, the Nigerian league was doing well, we could source for talents in-house.

It is not the same scenario today, the league has gone to the dogs, you can't find talents in the leagues. Even more, the whole workd seems to have left Nigeria in 1994. We have done nothing to build on that success, rather, the local coaches glorify mediocrity and sacrifice true talent for a few extra kobos.

It is not because we do not have local talent that are just as good, or even better than the foreign borns, but the rotten corruption stiinking up everywhere, means, we can only look outside to help ourselves.