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Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by Gracemadeit(m): 5:20pm On Nov 10, 2019
Any christian who prays for their enemies to die has not known the character of God through christ, so they are all working in ignorance. shocked shocked shocked
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by 1Sharon(f): 5:29pm On Nov 10, 2019
isHArOn:
you think so

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Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by 1Sharon(f): 5:32pm On Nov 10, 2019
isHArOn:
you think so

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Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by sacx: 6:13pm On Nov 10, 2019
bereanway:
I will start with this, and then you can reason with me. The Bible says we should pray for our enemies; but the question comes, what kind of enemies should we pray for? are they just normal enemies that hate us or those that persecute us or satanic enemies? What prayer should you pray for your unrepentant village head witch that has killed over hundred people and is still a witch or an occultic ritualist using young pupils for money? should it be prayers of blessings?

Someone said "nobody will kill him and repent". Let me ask you! If someone has killed six of your relatives, and does not want to repent, and of which you know that about five of them died as sinners, should you pamper that enemy? Forgive. But what if the enemy is unrepentant and continues killing people?. should we pamper enemies that increase the population of hell fire? should we pamper enemies that do not want to repent until they have killed 200 people?

The enemies I am against here are not really those persecuting or killing you for righteousness sake or those that just hate people normally. I mean those unrepentant enemies that kill "anyhow": e.g ritualists, heartless armed robbers.. Anyway the law enforcements are there!!

What should you do to those unrepentant enemies Killing souls that are ripe for harvest or that are ready to be saved?

Some murderous enemies need to die if they are unrepentant. You may not kill them with your hands, but your prayers can make the law enforcement agencies kill them.


Finally.

(1) Forgive your enemies, preach to them, but never let them kill you before they repent.

(2) Forgive your enemies, preach to them, but never let them kill your loved ones before they repent.

Some arguments are not worth entering into. These are your personal opinions, have no bearings on the teachings of Jesus nor the proclamation of the gospel. You can kill as many as you want.
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by gobuchinny: 6:41pm On Nov 10, 2019
NeutralNigerian:
Its very clear in the scriptures, Suffer not a witch to live, If you allow the devil to use you,you have yo die, I don't have powers to cast the devil out of you, but I have the power to cast you out of the devil.

Rubbish post. R y sure you r a christ follower or you practice Judaism? Which doctrine r y following? Christ or your village high priest?
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by ayberry: 6:46pm On Nov 10, 2019
paxonel:
don't be scared!
There are nothing like witches or wizards they are all myths and not reality.
They are all tricks, no one human being have any supernatural power to harm or make you.

Google the meaning of witch or witchcraft or check it in English dictionary. It means magic or tricks performed by people BELIEVED to have supernatural power.
mark the word believed.
That means, anyone can believe anything even when they are not factual, and that kind of believe is common among illiterate people.

For instance, I can twist a group of cards on the table before you and throw one away without you suspecting, then i start telling you that i have supernatural power to make one of the cards disappear. You can easily believe me when you don't understand the trick or magic I'm displaying, why?
Because you were not educated enough about cards and tricks, At that point I'm a witch to you.

So, the witch of endor, that was what she did to deceive Saul and people of that time of primitivity. It is called soccery.

If that’s what you believe then so be it buh I’ll explain some shits to you, you believed what you read in dictionary right and on google but have you ever experienced it in real life ? Like I said don’t sleep on the bicycle man, b like say na London u de live abi. Now let me explain in-depth, a sorcerer is a born magician I.e he was born with it , it’s his bloodline right ! Good , a witch or wizard is a normal human being born innocent but was initiated into it . If u ever listened well or ever cared to do a research, according to Yoruba knowledge, witchcraft can be passed / initiated into your kins specifically females yes , a mother must pass her power down to her daughter that’s why there are more witches than wizards on the other hand you can’t initiate a guy without him willing to join.... do you even believe there are terrestrial beings ? I guess not , I wouldn’t believe either but o dare not after I met one . Pls don’t say witches are not real bruh coz they r ..don’t because of advancement in science n technology troway d fact. I would love to explain more
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by paxonel(m): 8:25pm On Nov 10, 2019
ayberry:


If that’s what you believe then so be it buh I’ll explain some shits to you, you believed what you read in dictionary right and on google but have you ever experienced it in real life ? Like I said don’t sleep on the bicycle man, b like say na London u de live abi.
my guy the only difference between Europe and the rest of the world with Africa is tradition.

Now let me explain in-depth, a sorcerer is a born magician I.e he was born with it , it’s his bloodline right ! Good , a witch or wizard is a normal human being born innocent but was initiated into it . If u ever listened well or ever cared to do a research, according to Yoruba knowledge, witchcraft can be passed / initiated into your kins specifically females yes , a mother must pass her power down to her daughter that’s why there are more witches than wizards on the other hand you can’t initiate a guy without him willing to join
I grow up among yorubas I understand everything about their villages. They are not different from other Nigerian tribes only that that they tend to be more fetish. And where i come from, we have very fetish people as well, but like I have said all the fetish things in all African tribes are all myths and nothing real about them.
All the witches, babalawo, orunmila, ayelala.
By the way, some foreigners came to steal ayelala in my village and inspite all the swear and rituals done to acertain those who did it, till today nothing happened.
They are accused old women and little children of witches but some of such children rehabilated and send to school by the government graduated with flying colors and are doing very well for themselves today.

do you even believe there are terrestrial beings ? I guess not ,
terrestrial beings like humans and animals, whether i believe they exist?
OK o grin

I wouldn’t believe either but o dare not after I met one . Pls don’t say witches are not real bruh coz they r ..don’t because of advancement in science n technology troway d fact. I would love to explain more
look, we are currently living in a world where humans are becoming very inquisitive. They want to know everything explained in details.
If you want to make people believe that witches exist write a story about them in vanguard and sun newspapers let channels broadcast a video showing a witch flying, that's the only way your story can hold ground.
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by Amudeneogu: 10:06pm On Nov 10, 2019
Bible said, pray for your enemies so that they will repent and seek the face of God.
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by Nobody: 11:36pm On Nov 10, 2019
nlPoster:
This is very deep.

Now, the problem is, what makes someone or a family, such an easy target that an enemy can pick off anyhow? As opposed to other families these enemies wouldn't dare go near?


You cant say it's morals, because as Nigerians, morality is more or less a facade, about 90% of Nigerians really have nothing like morality in their dictionary. All these nlers stories of I slept with your entire state and country, is neither here nor there, that is not the issue.

Where is the lack of security coming from that gives leeway for your enemies to confidently launch attacks on you?

Yorubas posit- bogiri o lanu alangba o wole, where is the wall being breached?

My opinion is that the Bible said pray for your enemies it doesn’t carry any caveat or and except

It says unconditionally, no matter what they do to you , you pray for your enemies. Like Stephen in the Bible while being stoned or Jesus on the cross , the Bible says pray for your enemies.

You can pray against attack you can pray for security and you can pray for the power of the Holy Spirit to defend you

What’s interesting to note is that the Bible didn’t say what kind of prayer or the intention of the prayer to pray.....
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by ayberry: 11:03am On Nov 11, 2019
paxonel:
my guy the only difference between Europe and the rest of the world with Africa is tradition.
I grow up among yorubas I understand everything about their villages. They are not different from other Nigerian tribes only that that they tend to be more fetish. And where i come from, we have very fetish people as well, but like I have said all the fetish things in all African tribes are all myths and nothing real about them.
All the witches, babalawo, orunmila, ayelala.
By the way, some foreigners came to steal ayelala in my village and inspite all the swear and rituals done to acertain those who did it, till today nothing happened.
They are accused old women and little children of witches but some of such children rehabilated and send to school by the government graduated with flying colors and are doing very well for themselves today.
terrestrial beings like humans and animals, whether i believe they exist?
OK o grin
look, we are currently living in a world where humans are becoming very inquisitive. They want to know everything explained in details.
If you want to make people believe that witches exist write a story about them in vanguard and sun newspapers let channels broadcast a video showing a witch flying, that's the only way your story can hold ground.
I actually like your belief bruh buh the fact is “a mad man sees what he sees “ I’ve seen what I call a terrestrial being before more like an angel . So from what we’ve been talking about I can say you don’t believe there are spiritual beings too! Well witchcraft is a spirit, a spirit can’t manifest physically it needs a host to exercise it might... about d tradition talk , Europe has its own tradition so does Africa, the difference now is Europe has evolved from it past therefore shedding away most of it core traditions while in Africa were fucking grounded in it n mind you those whites know what traditions are that’s why you see them they come n steal , buy, scam gullible traditional rulers here in Africa n take away ayilala, osanyin............. now I want you to answer a question , Do you believe there is a spiritual world ?
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by paxonel(m): 1:00pm On Nov 11, 2019
ayberry:

I actually like your belief bruh buh the fact is “a mad man sees what he sees “ I’ve seen what I call a terrestrial being before more like an angel . So from what we’ve been talking about I can say you don’t believe there are spiritual beings too! Well witchcraft is a spirit, a spirit can’t manifest physically it needs a host to exercise it might... about d tradition talk , Europe has its own tradition so does Africa, the difference now is Europe has evolved from it past therefore shedding away most of it core traditions while in Africa were fucking grounded in it n mind you those whites know what traditions are that’s why you see them they come n steal , buy, scam gullible traditional rulers here in Africa n take away ayilala, osanyin............. now I want you to answer a question , Do you believe there is a spiritual world ?
ofcourse there is a spiritual world. That is a world for the spirit while this world we are living is for physical things, matter.
There is no interaction between the spiritual world with the physical world anywhere except in our faith, not even in human body which is physical.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

You see the definite identity and mutual exclusivity between the two?
We are identified as flesh or body and nothing more.
The spirit is identified as spirit and nothing more.
Therefore It's not possible that the physical body will possess a spiritual or supernatural power especially now that there is education, wisdom and understanding among men today which is how God wanted us to be in the first place.
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by ayberry: 2:51pm On Nov 11, 2019
paxonel:
ofcourse there is a spiritual world. That is a world for the spirit while this world we are living is for physical things, matter.
There is no interaction between the spiritual world with the physical world anywhere except in our faith, not even in human body which is physical.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

You see the definite identity and mutual exclusivity between the two?
We are identified as flesh or body and nothing more.
The spirit is identified as spirit and nothing more.
Therefore It's not possible that the physical body will possess a spiritual or supernatural power especially now that there is education, wisdom and understanding among men today which is how God wanted us to be in the first place.

Nice write up ... buh come to think of it our flesh is the only physical thing here, your original being is the soul, d flesh is the reflection of your being I.e you are a soul yourself. In as much as a sheep that rolls with d dog will definitely eat poop together n as far as I know about social interaction amongst pple , influence grows , mutiny is like a virus it spreads good. My point is still about witchcraft don’t forget it’s a spirit. You as a being let’s say A’s mum is a witch n gave birth to ABCD. There’s a high probability that one of ABCD will contract that witchcrafts spirit. The point I’m trying to buttress here is there’s connection btw d physical n the spiritual. Paul said “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places right ! Now a question for you how can a physical body fight against a spiritual being? Is it not by believing first that these beings exists yes, then by prayer n faith in the power of God . My point is still that witchcraft is a spirit that possesses a soul“a man has a spirit n a soul in him” . Spirit z explained as a force that drives you”a soul” to act/ do certain things.. jez like men of God have Holy Spirit, evil pple Av evil spirit too” witchcraft, sorcery....... now Holy Spirit can influence a man of God right ! Yes because he has a soul that is the medium for a spirit to influence you buh d man of God himself exists in the physical.. see fam things de this world I don’t let science n technology format you, even this whites they believe in tarot reading , Wetin u think say de help them get d reading ? Witchcraft n sorcery, spirit of divination in Yoruba land they call them aworawo, ariran
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by nlPoster: 4:30pm On Nov 11, 2019
I'm an aworawo if you mean stargazer, not the dark arts.
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My favorite books as a child always included anything about the cosmos.
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by paxonel(m): 4:36pm On Nov 11, 2019
ayberry:


Nice write up ... buh come to think of it our flesh is the only physical thing here, your original being is the soul, d flesh is the reflection of your being I.e you are a soul yourself.
very true!
But can you see your soul with your five senses?
Only God who is a spirit can do that.
The same thing applies, only God can see witches and wizards if they truly exist. This explains why cameras cannot capture witches to obtain pictures or videos which may be used as evidence of their existence or have you ever come across any picture like that? Then post it here let's see.
Then if you say someone is a witch, what are the physical proves to show she is one?
Don't tell me because you are going through difficulties in life therefore you suspect she is manipulating your success. You must go beyond mere suspecting and bring a tangible physical evidence.

In as much as a sheep that rolls with d dog will definitely eat poop together n as far as I know about social interaction amongst pple , influence grows , mutiny is like a virus it spreads good. My point is still about witchcraft don’t forget it’s a spirit. You as a being let’s say A’s mum is a witch n gave birth to ABCD. There’s a high probability that one of ABCD will contract that witchcrafts spirit.
contract?
Is witchcraft virus that you can contract, i thought you say witches are spirits?

Even though virus are so tiny that we cannot see them, they can be viewed through a microscope. That means they are not spirits.

The point I’m trying to buttress here is there’s connection btw d physical n the spiritual. Paul said “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places right ! Now a question for you how can a physical body fight against a spiritual being?
for your info, Paul was not fighting a spiritual being.
Principalities were antichrists who perpertrated spiritual wickedness against Christians, these Antichrists were unbelievers of Christ who denied Christ and stood against Christianity.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he(not spirit but a human) that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

hence they were called antichrists, meaning, anti-christianity.
These humans perpetrated spiritual wickedness by killing and persecuting Christians having obtain authority empowered by the rulers(government) to persecute Christians. Remember, Paul obtained power to persecute Christians at Damascus? Therefore Paul was a principality or Antichrist until he encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus. So principalities were never spiritual beings, rather they were mere humans.

I don't know where the witch is coming from?

My point is still that witchcraft is a spirit that possesses a soul“a man has a spirit n a soul in him” .
we were made to believe this by the society and the church but there are no evidence that any such thing exist.

jez like men of God have Holy Spirit, evil pple Av evil spirit too” witchcraft, sorcery
holy spirit isn't meant only for men of God,All Christians have it equally irrespective of whether you are a pastor or not.
There is difference between not having the holy spirit from having evil spirit.
Not having the holy spirit implies that the person is not a practicing Christian. E.g someone practicing Islam.
Having evil spirit implies that the person is mentally derailed whether he is a Christian or not.

even this whites they believe in tarot reading , Wetin u think say de help them get d reading ?
that's not true, whites are far more intelligent to believe the rubbish.
Even their kids want to see these things in movies because they know they are not real.

Witchcraft n sorcery, spirit of divination in Yoruba land they call them aworawo, ariran
that's how yorubas also believe that blood money is real grin

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Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by ayberry: 5:05pm On Nov 11, 2019
paxonel:
very true!
But can you see your soul with your five senses?
Only God who is a spirit can do that.
The same thing applies, only God can see witches and wizards if they truly exist. This explains why cameras cannot capture witches to obtain pictures or videos which may be used as evidence of their existence or have you ever come across any picture like that? Then post it here let's see.
Then if you say someone is a witch, what are the physical proves to show she is one?
Don't tell me because you are going through difficulties in life therefore you suspect she is manipulating your success. You must go beyond mere suspecting and bring a tangible physical evidence.
contract?
Is witchcraft virus that you can contract, i thought you say witches are spirits?

Even though virus are so tiny that we cannot see them, they can be viewed through a microscope. That means they are not spirits.
for your info, Paul was not fighting a spiritual being.
Principalities were antichrists who perpertrated spiritual wickedness against Christians, these Antichrists were unbelievers of Christ who denied Christ and stood against Christianity.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he(not spirit but a human) that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

hence they were called antichrists, meaning, anti-christianity.
These humans perpetrated spiritual wickedness by killing and persecuting Christians having obtain authority empowered by the rulers(government) to persecute Christians. Remember, Paul obtained power to persecute Christians at Damascus? Therefore Paul was a principality or Antichrist until he encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus. So principalities were never spiritual beings, rather they were mere humans.

I don't know where the witch is coming from?
we were made to believe this by the society and the church but there are no evidence that any such thing exist.
holy spirit isn't meant only for men of God,All Christians have it equally irrespective of whether you are a pastor or not.
There is difference between not having the holy spirit from having evil spirit.
Not having the holy spirit implies that the person is not a practicing Christian. E.g someone practicing Islam.
Having evil spirit implies that the person is mentally derailed whether he is a Christian or not.
that's not true, whites are far more intelligent to believe the rubbish.
Even their kids want to see these things in movies because they know they are not real.
that's how yorubas also believe that blood money is real grin
Lmao
Av met someone today we go counter ourselves taya today... wait for d next episode

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Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by Kobojunkie: 6:37pm On Jul 14, 2020
judedwriter:
The Bible already says it: "suffer not a witch to live."
Some enemies are really unrepentant and just have to die. I use to watch Dr Chris okafor's deliverance sessions and I wondered why he so often pronounces death sentences on household enemies. The reason is not far from your article.
Yet Jesus Christ commanded you to love your enemies and pray for, not against them...

Matthew 5 vs 43-48 (ERV)
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43. “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[k] and hate your enemy.’
44. But I tell you, love your enemies. Pray for those who treat you badly.
45. If you do this, you will be children who are truly like your Father in heaven. He lets the sun rise for all people, whether they are good or bad. He sends rain to those who do right and to those who do wrong.
46. If you love only those who love you, why should you get a reward for that? Even the tax collectors do that.
47. And if you are nice only to your friends, you are no better than anyone else. Even the people who don’t know God are nice to their friends.
48. What I am saying is that you must be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Who do you believe? Jesus Christ or some article was written by some dude? undecided


Matthew 5 vs 38 - 42 (ERV)
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38. “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’[i]
39. But I tell you, don’t fight back against someone who wants to do harm to you. If they hit you on the right cheek, let them hit the other cheek too.
40. If anyone wants to sue you in court and take your shirt, let them have your coat too.
41. If a soldier forces you to walk with him one mile,[j] go with him two.
42. Give to anyone who asks you for something. Don’t refuse to give to anyone who wants to borrow from you.
Will you heed Jesus Christ's commandments or will you continue to pretend it is ok to support delusions and doctrines of men? undecided
Re: Should Christians Pray For Some Enemies to Die? by reallifegospel(m): 2:17pm On Oct 18, 2021
I will start with this, and then you can reason with me. The Bible says we should pray for our enemies; but the question comes, what kind of enemies should we pray for? are they just normal enemies that hate us or those that persecute us or satanic enemies? What prayer should you pray for your unrepentant village head witch that has killed over hundred people and is still a witch or an occultic ritualist using young pupils for money? should it be prayers of blessings?

Someone said "nobody will kill him and repent". Let me ask you! If someone has killed six of your relatives, and does not want to repent, and of which you know that about five of them died as sinners, should you pamper that enemy? Forgive. But what if the enemy is unrepentant and continues killing people?. should we pamper enemies that increase the population of hell fire? should we pamper enemies that do not want to repent until they have killed 200 people?

The enemies I am against here are not really those persecuting or killing you for righteousness sake or those that just hate people normally. I mean those unrepentant enemies that kill "anyhow": e.g ritualists, heartless armed robbers.. Anyway the law enforcements are there!!

What should you do to those unrepentant enemies Killing souls that are ripe for harvest or that are ready to be saved?

Some murderous enemies need to die if they are unrepentant. You may not kill them with your hands, but your prayers can make the law enforcement agencies kill them.


Finally.

(1) Forgive your enemies, preach to them, but never let them kill you before they repent.

(2) Forgive your enemies, preach to them, but never let them kill your loved ones before they repent.

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