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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:28pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: Even though you are right that he can be rigid, you are wrong @ KO stages. Afterall, he has won 2 UCLs. Alot of things go into losing a game in the UCL. Sometimes, you just need LUCK. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:29pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter: "The UCL and EPL are not the same" 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 10:38pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Who else watched that Jordy Morris video, a response to Jose Mourinho criticism of our performance against top teams.... I think Jordy Morris was childish and immature with the video. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:42pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: Of all coaches you have known in the CL history of over 50yrs how many do you know that have won more than him, Name about 5 that have won more CL titles 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:46pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: We have played Liverpool twice this season and judging from that game I look forward to 3points against them in the return fixture. Can't say about a team we are yet to play. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 10:52pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Luck, No. I believe more in flexibility, knowing how to adapt to different teams tactics and tweaking them to ones benefits. I see Kloop doing that more often. As much as Pep plays a very fine brand of football, he still relies on individual brilliance to see through matches; Messi comes to mind. It’s no brainer that since he left the ‘goat’, he hasn’t been able to win another UCL title. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 10:54pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter:What does this prove egbon? You can argue with emotions eeh. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Hazardfan1: 10:55pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
airmark: Lol, why can't city win the UCL? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:01pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Hazardfan1: LOL Why can't Hazard score 30 goals this season 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:01pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: k |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:03pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: You are asking Pep to do what how many people have done in history? What you call emotions is what I call logic. Pep come and prove yourself in EPL, he has done that. WHy the need for post shifting when you didnt ask him to win the CL The so called Great Alex Ferguson won 2 CL in his entire career. When are you going to question him for not winning more 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Hazardfan1: 11:05pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter: I asked you first, answer me. More than 3 seasons gone, Pep can't win the UCL without Messi? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:06pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: What flexibility will make VAR not spot Llorente handball goal vs Spurs which condemned him to a loss Those flexible coaches how many CLs have they won? Pep left Messi 7yrs ago, Shebi Messi is winning the CL every season 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:06pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Hazardfan1: No one told Pep to come and win CL, they told him to come and prove himself in EPL and I am sure he has cleared your doubt 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 11:19pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter:Pep coached a Barça team that was the best in four years with players that could walk into any team but he delivered only two CL in four years.. Should have been one, thanks to ovrebo the Barça ref. Zidane's team was the best in Europe and he delivered 3 CL to show for it.. No luck needed.. When fergie's team was up there with other European teams.. He delivered CL. Mourinho's Porto and inter Millan were not the best then, I'm not even sure they were top five but he delivered CL.. It's a simple stuff.. Pep coached a Bayern team that won CL the previous season and I'll say they were the number one or two team the next three seasons but he turned them to Norwich city whenever they faced ororo or Messi. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:24pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
obainojazz: Where was Barcelona before Pep took over? Trophyless. Where were these fantastic players doing at Barca before Pep joined? Xavi was on his way out, Messi was a winger barely scoring 20goals. Who were Pique, Busquets etc These players who were trophyless sudenly became stars when Pep took over Pep came sent out the teams chairmen like Ronaldinho and Deco. Brought a reject Pique and youth team Busquets and won 6 trophies in the next 18 months. That is legendary Zidane took over the same team who won La decima and won 3 more titles for them. Nice Ferguson had over 3 decades of coaching he spent 20yrs at Man Utd and could only deliver 2 CL titles. Average Mourinho coached Ronaldo for 3yrs and delivered 0 CL titles. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 11:31pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter:Xavi was on his way out, same old story..Pep left Barça and these players were still the best in the world.. It's a case of perfect timing and I commend him for using them.. Since it was all pep, why is he not winning again.. How many times was fergie's team the top in Europe.. Fergie builds his team to last not going to buy all the best players.. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:38pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Elnino4ladies: Jody has always been a hothead known for fights and getting in trouble with the law during his playing days. People at the top.are taking note of his behaviour. Football has given him a second chance to make some decent money and settle his family, he should be careful of his behaviour. He does not have millions in the bank to fall back on. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:39pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD: More often but he has won less? It means his style is not as successful. I did not say LUCK is the only reason people don't win. I said sometimes luck is the reason someone like Pep did not win. Last season against Tottenham is an example. As much as Pep plays a very fine brand of football, he still relies on individual brilliance to see through matches; Messi comes to mind. It’s no brainer that since he left the ‘goat’, he hasn’t been able to win another UCL title. Sometimes, you'd be making sense then you'd remember that you have to pander to your CFC fanbase then you'd veer off. A coach sets-up a system to maximise the individual talents of his players. For e.g Messi's individual brilliance is still there yet EV is not winning UCLs or trebles. Why? because his system is not fully maximizing the potential of all the players at his disposal. Fabinho's goal yesterday is it not individual brilliance? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:40pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Eruditor: If Fraudiola fails to win both epl and ucl, will you call him a failed/local coach or a fraud? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:41pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
obainojazz: Cockamamie. When Pep's barca players win - it proves it was them. But it does not show that he built the team to last? Sane, Bernardo were the best players around were and at what age? They were not built to last? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:42pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
airmark: Call Mourinho a fraud first for his last 2 seasons in United. Call Hazard a fraud for his time so far in RM. Then we can discuss. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:43pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
obainojazz: Xavi was being chased out for being a terrible widfielder, he was called the cancer of Barcelona, and by the time he ended his career, everyone was calling Xavi one of the best midfielders ever Pep left Barca in 2012, they are the best in the world, I will presume they have won 7 CL in those 7yrs, these best players in the world won 2 in 4 yrs but immediately Pep left they havent won 2 in 7yrs Why isnt he winning again? Your Ferguson won 2 in 30yrs, Mourinho won 2 in almost 20yrs of coaching but Pep must be winning it all the time 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:44pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
obainojazz: So what league titles was Zidane winning in those same 3 years? Why was his team not beating Barca in the league if he was delivering? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 11:45pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter:Simple.. Madrid started winning egbon. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 11:47pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
raumdeuter:Lol. Can you quote where I posted the bolded? Or forever stop singing it like a nursery rhyme. The so called Great Alex Ferguson managed sides like Barca? Or a great team like Bayern? Or an Arab money team like ManCity? See why your emotional outbursts won’t help you? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 11:48pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Madrid not being able to win la liga is not what I will be discussing.. Plus Barça team ain't bad.. They are always favorite to win CL and la liga. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 11:49pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD:No mind Dayo.. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 11:53pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:I was talking about fergie era.. Compare his players with that of other teams in those years.. This Man city team is far better than any team in England currently and should be winning everything... Look at their bench, Mahrez was once rates higher than Salah.. B. Silva came from a team that produced Mbappe and Co. they were reallt good.. So whenever they lose, no excuses... We gats troll them. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:53pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
obainojazz: Did they establish Madrid after Pep left Barcelona or why werent they winning again? Did these great players that carried Pep die? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:55pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD:That was the chorus of EPL fans on this forum. And I have quoted at least 4 of them in the past who said it Ferguson managed Manchester United a club richer than Barcelona Bayern and Man City. Fergie was there breaking transfer fees record for fun Pallister Stam and Rio were most expensive defenders 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:57pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
obainojazz: If you didnt watch most of fergusons era, some of us did, Fergusons teams were better than any team in England that was why he could win the league easily without breaking sweat. when he is tired he will allow Wenger to win one 1 Like |
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