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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:38pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Sadly,it's never enough.Money has never been enough! We spend the same on per capita terms with Czech republic,Hungary and Bulgaria but we lag behind them. rvp2018 in some scenarios,Africa shouldn't be our benchmark,we should learn how Hungary,Bulgaria and Czech Republic are doing it.

For instance, the report says, many countries such as Hungary, the Czech Republic and Bulgaria with similar levels of per student spending as Kenya have achieved higher completion rates in secondary schools compared to Kenya.

“A cross-country comparison between spending per secondary student (in per capita GDP percentage terms) and secondary completion rates shows that given what Kenya spends, there is room to obtain higher outcomes in terms


If we choose not to be wasteful,we can even be better. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Kenyans-are-not-getting-value-for-tax/539546-5242050-ckjws8z/index.html

You shold simply ask where this money are going to. i am not gonna spoonfeed you by telling you how your budget is spend blindly. your last budget on education was consumed by salary . no building of schools, No rehabilitation of worn out project . and now you are piloting a new education model which the goverment claim it will received additional boost hence the current increament .

Kenyans relax , Ghana budget for 2020 will be coming up soon ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:39pm On Nov 12, 2019
Ok,slightly over 2B USD. I will take that!

Deloite is not just some cheap blog though file:///C:/Users/user8/Downloads/gh-deloitte-2018-budget-commentary-and-tax-highlights.pdf
vaxx2:
You quoted an application to-do blog. you forget so quickly the diffrence trend in exchange rate. Ghana cedis has lost over 7 percent of its value this year. As at the time of the budget . the cash is slightly above 2 billion dollar and above

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:40pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Ok,slightly over 2B USD. I will take that!

Deloite is not just some cheap blog though file:///C:/Users/user8/Downloads/gh-deloitte-2018-budget-commentary-and-tax-highlights.pdf
When you are quoting blog. reference where the blogs get its information. that is more important


Give me the hyper test link to that blog .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:41pm On Nov 12, 2019
Ok

Salaries take a big percentage,that's to be expected. It's true we didn't build a single classroom nor schools nor anything that year!
vaxx2:
You shold simply ask where this money are going to. i am not gonna spoonfeed you by telling you how your budget is spend blindly. your last budget on education was consumed by salary . no building of schools, No rehabilitation of worn out project . and now you are piloting a new education model which the goverment claim it will received additional boost hence the current increament .

Kenyans relax , Ghana budget for 2020 will be coming up soon ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:42pm On Nov 12, 2019
In think I've accepted your over 2 billion dollar mark! I'm not one who dwells arguing on stuff! I'm that understanding!
vaxx2:
When you are quoting blog. references where the blogs get its information. that is more important


Give me the hyper test link to that blog .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:44pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Big lie.Your rebased GDP is 70B.You ordinary tax 8B.Total revenues 11B.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.TAX.TOTL.GD.ZS

Tax revenues in Ghana is 13.3 billion dollars

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:45pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
In think I've accepted your over 2 billion dollar mark! I'm not one who dwells arguing on stuff! I'm that understanding!
Ooh good. but RVP should learn to argue educatedly not blindly .if it were to be in my hostel then in uni and he argue quoting blog. Boys may give him a slap base on that ......
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:46pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
It was 18.5 percent in 2018 as per this report.We ought to be somewhere 20 percent,this is not good!

https://www.oecd.org/countries/kenya/revenue-statistics-africa-kenya.pdf
grin grin grin grin grin

tax to gdp ratio does not increase like that

Anything below 25% is an underperformance for any middle-income economy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:48pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
It is even more appealing when you check poverty rate in kenya?
they've tried

they have managed to reduce the incidence to 37%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:49pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
they've tried

they have managed to reduce the incidence to 37%
lol.... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:49pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
Ooh good. but RVP should learn to argue educatedly not blindly .if it were to be in my hostel then in uni and he argue quoting blog. Boys may give him a slap base on that ......
5.2 cedis is a dollar.11B Ghana cedis is 2b dollars.Facts are stubborn.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:50pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Sadly,it's never enough.Money has never been enough! We spend the same on per capita terms with Czech republic,Hungary and Bulgaria but we lag behind them. rvp2018 in some scenarios,Africa shouldn't be our benchmark,we should learn how Hungary,Bulgaria and Czech Republic are doing it.

For instance, the report says, many countries such as Hungary, the Czech Republic and Bulgaria with similar levels of per student spending as Kenya have achieved higher completion rates in secondary schools compared to Kenya.

“A cross-country comparison between spending per secondary student (in per capita GDP percentage terms) and secondary completion rates shows that given what Kenya spends, there is room to obtain higher outcomes in terms


If we choose not to be wasteful,we can even be better. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Kenyans-are-not-getting-value-for-tax/539546-5242050-ckjws8z/index.html

it is always good to learn from those doing it better.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:52pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
You finance ministry need a wriggle room from Credit rating, IMF and Eurobond hence the rebasing
not really

who will want to hide a 25% economic recovery?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:54pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
5.2 cedis is a dollar.11B Ghana cedis is 2b dollars.Facts are stubborn.
You dont do calculation that way. when that budget was realised. it was somewhere in 2018 and cedis was quoted well around 4.90 and 5 cedis. that is what you should read. Ghana cedis has lost so many point this year...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:54pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Evidence....simple...of Ghana cement production and consumption...is not rocket science. You're beginning to sound like Nigerians. Getting facts out is like pulling teeths.

Ghanaians,chill! It's a discussion not a quarrel. Like he said come with stats we can examine. We Africans REALLY LEARN TO NEED EMPIRICAL NOT EMOTIVE DEBATING !
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:55pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
the revise budget always comes in July when there is a need to.

Every July, the finance ministry goes to parliament to report on the health of the economy
So you financial year is calendar year...Kenya suplimentary budget come around the 3rd Q.Nothing drastic...just minor revision.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 6:56pm On Nov 12, 2019
kikuyu1:


Ghanaians,chill! It's a discussion not a quarrel. Like he said come with stats we can examine. We Africans REALLY LEARN TO NEED EMPIRICAL NOT EMOTIVE DEBATING !
but we shouldn't be stupid pulling statistics right from our asses and called it figure. we should learn to be independent minded and quote trusted information.

regarding the consumption report I have quoted a trusted information but rvp stubbornly ignore it. citing dangote report in exchange ....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:57pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
You dont do calculation that way. when that budget was realised. it was somewhere in 2018 and cedis was quoted well around 4.90 and 5 cedis. that is what you should read. Ghana cedis has lost so many point this year...
Nitpicking, cherry picking.We are painting in broad brushes.This is not floating point precision ..this is Nairaland.11 divided by 5 is 2.2B aka 2B round off.Dont be that desperate
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:00pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
but we shouldn't be stupid pulling statistics right from our asses and called it figure. we should learn to be independent minded and quote trusted information.

regarding the consumption report I have quoted a trusted information but rvp stubbornly ignore it. citing dangote report in exchange ....
It started from 10m..then 5m then 8m..the Dangote said 6m.I am going with Dangote because he is an industry player and won't put any thrash in his audited results.6M is good because Kenya does around that with 20m more people.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kennyswagz2: 7:00pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
hehe

you wont get Accra pics on goolge

most of what you'll see are pics from 2000 to 2008
This is your Accra here.. you can see that it is nothing but a shitholegringringrin
https://www.nairaland.com/4074730/beauty-accra-city-ghana
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:01pm On Nov 12, 2019
20 percent was our projection that we missed,that's why I quoted the sum. I don't think many economies in Africa achieve that figure of 25 and above!
Just30:
grin grin grin grin grin

tax to gdp ratio does not increase like that

Anything below 25% is an underperformance for any middle-income economy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 7:01pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Nitpicking, cherry picking.We are painting in broad brushes.This is not floating point precision ..this is Nairaland.11 divided by 5 is 2.2B aka 2B round off.Dont be that desperate
ok. ... cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:04pm On Nov 12, 2019
The money converter quoted the recent market rate. He wants the old rate before the said 7 percent depreciation. Give it to him!
rvp2018:
5.2 cedis is a dollar.11B Ghana cedis is 2b dollars.Facts are stubborn.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kennyswagz2: 7:04pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
here comes the dumb kid casting his inflated egos again
which ego? I am just telling you guys thay you are overrating that shithole city...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:05pm On Nov 12, 2019
Just30:
not really

who will want to hide a 25% economic recovery?
So the economy had collapsed, eurobond interest was hammering Ghana, credit rating agencies downgrading her debts , cedis getting a battering and IMF on Ghana neck ...and all over sudden let's rebase again..just 5yrs after 60% GDP jump..we get another 25%.Look suspicious to me.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:08pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
The money converter quoted the recent market rate. He wants the old rate before the said 7 percent depreciation. Give it to him!
You give him an inch he takes a mile.Okay this is more friendly fire so hopefully we can learn about Ghana.I tend to think behind the rosy picture there is an ugly side we need to unravel here.Ghana is like Zambia.Looks good from far but when you get near...you find a backward country.Their cedis like the kwacha always come to bite them..and they start again.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 7:13pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jonraid:
Sadly,it's never enough.Money has never been enough! We spend the same on per capita terms with Czech republic,Hungary and Bulgaria but we lag behind them. rvp2018 in some scenarios,Africa shouldn't be our benchmark,we should learn how Hungary,Bulgaria and Czech Republic are doing it.

For instance, the report says, many countries such as Hungary, the Czech Republic and Bulgaria with similar levels of per student spending as Kenya have achieved higher completion rates in secondary schools compared to Kenya.

“A cross-country comparison between spending per secondary student (in per capita GDP percentage terms) and secondary completion rates shows that given what Kenya spends, there is room to obtain higher outcomes in terms


If we choose not to be wasteful,we can even be better. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Kenyans-are-not-getting-value-for-tax/539546-5242050-ckjws8z/index.html


True but check RSA! They outspend us HUGELY yet their outcomes are dismal. Kids actually finish high school with Kazibure type English unable to do lower high school Math!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:15pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
So you financial year is calendar year...Kenya suplimentary budget come around the 3rd Q.Nothing drastic...just minor revision.
Ghana supplementary comes in the middle of the year

All budgets are red in the fourth quarter of every year.

the 2020 budget will be read on the 20th of november
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 7:15pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
It started from 10m..then 5m then 8m..the Dangote said 6m.I am going with Dangote because he is an industry player and won't put any thrash in his audited results.6M is good because Kenya does around that with 20m more people.
Dangote is not a key authority in Ghana cement industry. he is just a player ....now goverment has even regulate its buisness more. stastically, the amount of cement he brought to Ghana has reduce unlike before, so most of its product are largely smuggled in . how can such a player knows the accurate figure. he can ballon it or downsized it for its own benefit ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:16pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Nitpicking, cherry picking.We are painting in broad brushes.This is not floating point precision ..this is Nairaland.11 divided by 5 is 2.2B aka 2B round off.Dont be that desperate
you are really desperate grin grin grin grin

The budget was presented in 2018
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:17pm On Nov 12, 2019
vaxx2:
Dangote is not a key authority in Ghana cement industry. he is just a player ....now goverment has even regulate its buisness more. stastically, the amount of cement he brought to Ghana has reduce unlike before, so most of its product are largely smuggled in . how can such a player knows the accurate figure. he can ballon it or downsized it for its own benefit ....
You seriously think Dangote would just throw money to Ghana without the basic of industry stats? You think they don't have such figure on fingertip so they know their market penetration.Jesus.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:17pm On Nov 12, 2019
rvp2018:
It started from 10m..then 5m then 8m..the Dangote said 6m.I am going with Dangote because he is an industry player and won't put any thrash in his audited results.6M is good because Kenya does around that with 20m more people.
you are making too much noise

the cement consumption of Ghana has exposed your underdevelopment grin grin

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