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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 3:08pm On Nov 11, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:12pm On Nov 11, 2019
bidexiii:



What's that?

My childhood and Parle G biscuits grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:26pm On Nov 11, 2019
nemesis8u:


My childhood and Parle G biscuits grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jelal0007(m): 4:15pm On Nov 11, 2019
Kalapizim:
No currently, And i am up to speed from course mates there.
which course mate? Baba keep kwayet abeg.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 4:53pm On Nov 11, 2019
nemesis8u:


My childhood and Parle G biscuits grin
Lol that was the first thing I noticed

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kenpaul0: 5:47pm On Nov 11, 2019
I fell down laughing at this...Kaiii.....Kwale weed


Nicheey:


Why would NATO or America attack Nigeria?

Can they handle the consequences that follows after an unsuccessful attack on Nigerian soil?

The nearest USA military base is at Djibouti
(Camp Lemonier)

Assuming they're attacking by sea,logistics is a huge problem my dear friend.

The Usa doesn't have the vessels (under camp lemonire) to persecute a war with Nigeria by sea. Except hundreds of frigates leave the (HQ Norfolk, Virginia) – Homeland Defense and North Atlantic Ocean. Which I don't think they'd likely do.

Before the relation worsen to a state of war Nigeria may have seen need to armed her self to the teeth.

Where else should the university be located ? In ogoni land or efik land?
Do u intend to an industry build far from the raw materials?. I don't think there's any better place the university would be than where it is right now.

We're not talking bout oil wells bruh. This is a military thread we shouldn't politicized it.

Aside from the north east where the war is going on,the rest of the sub regions are peace my friend. I stayed in jos for 15years straight,I could tell how peaceful is it compare to some southern states.

The Nigerian military didn't struggle against mends,rather some factors were preventing the military crack down on the militant group(s) (senates,chiefs,kings, governors,etc).

With due respect. permit me to say you're,You're misinformed.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 6:01pm On Nov 11, 2019
nemesis8u:


My childhood and Parle G biscuits grin



grin grin shocked grin grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 6:09pm On Nov 11, 2019
So no new pics on Ezugwu MRAP or ARA MRAP or Andonni, Karaduwa or the SDB3 under construction,tsaigumi uav
Una know how I take like Indigenous hardware naaaa grin
@Kabe1
@bidexiii
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 7:13pm On Nov 11, 2019
Jelal0007:
which course mate? Baba keep kwayet abeg.
Exboys and is addressing people with decorum rocket science to you or its simply your up bringing ?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 7:42pm On Nov 11, 2019
jpphilips:


There is a comparison tool I left you to compare all attack helos, use it and stop whining, I gave you days to see if you have a clue how those comparisons are made, you turned out with the usual horse shit, believe me because I teach kids in kindergarten nonsesnse.
Boeing said the AH-64 compete with Mi-28 & Ka52, are you smarter than Boeing?
If you see a comparison chart with AH-64 & Mi28 but no Mi-35, common sense should tell you the later isn't competing with the former.

An ordinary man that wrote the story is your god now abi? You can't be smarter than him? Boeing and the source chose only the two helicopters they wish to compare. Common sense should tell you that because their comparison also excludes Eurocopter Tiger and China Z-10 that looks exactly like Apache, does not mean Tiger and WZ-10 are inferior rivals not competing with Apache.

My guy u hav problem tinking outside a box.

Look it's not about common sense bruz, it's about technical military sense, Boeing cannot compare Mi-35 with Apache because Boeing does not produce assault helicopters of Mi-35 class, Boeing only builds attack helicopters of Mi-28 class.

So Boeing is totally silent on Mi-35 and chose Mi-28 for comparison, same with that your data source, they both said clearly that the comparison is strictly for attack helicopters and Mi-35 doubles as a troop transport, not categorized with those types.

Russia built the Mi-28 as marketing concept to compete with Apache for customers by using copy copy look-alike shape design, that was the failed idea of rival that only 2 buyers choose. Reality turned out differently than designers concept plan, reality today is 80 air forces worldwide choose Mi-35 if they cannot get Apache, so miltary forces world wide have made Mi-35 the real life rival to Apache in real warfare, not in marketing design concept. This simple fact now becomes rocket science too complex for you to understand.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 8:19pm On Nov 11, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


The white man that wrote the story is your god now abi? You can't be smarter than him? Boeing and the source chose only the two helicopters they wish to compare. Common sense should tell you that because the comparison also excludes Eurocopter Tiger and China Z-10 that looks exactly like Apache, does not mean Tiger and WZ-10 are inferior rivals not able to compete with Apache.

My guy u hav problem tinking outside a box.

Look it's not about common sense bruz, it's about technical military sense, Boeing cannot compare Mi-35 with Apache because Boeing does not produce assault helicopters of Mi-35 class, Boeing only builds attack helicopters of Mi-28 class.

So Boeing is totally silent on Mi-35 and chose Mi-28 for comparison, same with that your data source, they both said clearly that the comparison is strictly for attack helicopters and Mi-35 doubles as a troop transport, and is not categorized with those types.

Russia built the Mi-28 as marketing concept to compete with Apache for customers by using copy copy look-alike shape design, that was the failed idea of rival that only 2 buyers choose. Reality turned out differently than design concept was planned, reality is that today 80 air forces worldwide choose Mi-35 if they cannot get Apache, so miltary forces world wide have made Mi-35 the real life rival to Apache in real warfare, not in marketing concept. That is the simple fact that has turned to rocket science too complex for you to understand.

Nairaland is not a place for learning, it's a place for rigid unbendable wrong thinking. grin

You chose wrong comparison table like a Sports Car vs 4WD SUV, and yes, a good examiner will fail you on technical grounds.
You are very smart Sir.

This is a very sound argument.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:38pm On Nov 11, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


An ordinary man that wrote the story is your god now abi? You can't be smarter than him? Boeing and the source chose only the two helicopters they wish to compare. Common sense should tell you that because their comparison also excludes Eurocopter Tiger and China Z-10 that looks exactly like Apache, does not mean Tiger and WZ-10 are inferior rivals not competing with Apache.

My guy u hav problem tinking outside a box.

Look it's not about common sense bruz, it's about technical military sense, Boeing cannot compare Mi-35 with Apache because Boeing does not produce assault helicopters of Mi-35 class, Boeing only builds attack helicopters of Mi-28 class.

So Boeing is totally silent on Mi-35 and chose Mi-28 for comparison, same with that your data source, they both said clearly that the comparison is strictly for attack helicopters and Mi-35 doubles as a troop transport, not categorized with those types.

Russia built the Mi-28 as marketing concept to compete with Apache for customers by using copy copy look-alike shape design, that was the failed idea of rival that only 2 buyers choose. Reality turned out differently than designers concept plan, reality today is 80 air forces worldwide choose Mi-35 if they cannot get Apache, so miltary forces world wide have made Mi-35 the real life rival to Apache in real warfare, not in marketing design concept. This simple fact now becomes rocket science too complex for you to understand.
the mi-35/24 has been in production since the 1970s....and its also cheap, hence 80 countries have bought it.

In terms of capability the Mi 28 has better flight characteristics example: faster cruise speed, higher service ceiling, higher hover ceiling(mi 35 is actually horrible at hovering) , better clime rate, it has Radar(mi 35m does not), it can Carry AAMs(mi 35m cannot), the Mi 28 also has better survivability, smaller cross section, better avionics and has an advanced HMD.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jimi24: 11:55pm On Nov 11, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


An ordinary man that wrote the story is your god now abi? You can't be smarter than him? Boeing and the source chose only the two helicopters they wish to compare. Common sense should tell you that because their comparison also excludes Eurocopter Tiger and China Z-10 that looks exactly like Apache, does not mean Tiger and WZ-10 are inferior rivals not competing with Apache.

My guy u hav problem tinking outside a box.

Look it's not about common sense bruz, it's about technical military sense, Boeing cannot compare Mi-35 with Apache because Boeing does not produce assault helicopters of Mi-35 class, Boeing only builds attack helicopters of Mi-28 class.

So Boeing is totally silent on Mi-35 and chose Mi-28 for comparison, same with that your data source, they both said clearly that the comparison is strictly for attack helicopters and Mi-35 doubles as a troop transport, not categorized with those types.

Russia built the Mi-28 as marketing concept to compete with Apache for customers by using copy copy look-alike shape design, that was the failed idea of rival that only 2 buyers choose. Reality turned out differently than designers concept plan, reality today is 80 air forces worldwide choose Mi-35 if they cannot get Apache, so miltary forces world wide have made Mi-35 the real life rival to Apache in real warfare, not in marketing design concept. This simple fact now becomes rocket science too complex for you to understand.

100% correct
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lionel4power(m): 1:30am On Nov 12, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


An ordinary man that wrote the story is your god now abi? You can't be smarter than him? Boeing and the source chose only the two helicopters they wish to compare. Common sense should tell you that because their comparison also excludes Eurocopter Tiger and China Z-10 that looks exactly like Apache, does not mean Tiger and WZ-10 are inferior rivals not competing with Apache.

My guy u hav problem tinking outside a box.

Look it's not about common sense bruz, it's about technical military sense, Boeing cannot compare Mi-35 with Apache because Boeing does not produce assault helicopters of Mi-35 class, Boeing only builds attack helicopters of Mi-28 class.

So Boeing is totally silent on Mi-35 and chose Mi-28 for comparison, same with that your data source, they both said clearly that the comparison is strictly for attack helicopters and Mi-35 doubles as a troop transport, not categorized with those types.

Russia built the Mi-28 as marketing concept to compete with Apache for customers by using copy copy look-alike shape design, that was the failed idea of rival that only 2 buyers choose. Reality turned out differently than designers concept plan, reality today is 80 air forces worldwide choose Mi-35 if they cannot get Apache, so miltary forces world wide have made Mi-35 the real life rival to Apache in real warfare, not in marketing design concept. This simple fact now becomes rocket science too complex for you to understand.

Please stop.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by CaptainStephen(m): 7:58am On Nov 12, 2019
Kalapizim:
Exboys and is addressing people with decorum rocket science to you or its simply your up bringing ?
hehehe owners of the army grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by blacKDalia: 8:48am On Nov 12, 2019
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jelal0007(m): 11:41am On Nov 12, 2019
Kalapizim:
Exboys and is addressing people with decorum rocket science to you or its simply your up bringing ?
dude keep kwayet.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 1:30pm On Nov 12, 2019
An ISWAP fighter wearing a uniform with huge similarities to Nigerian Army uniforms. These uniforms along with seized military vehicles have been used extensively by the terrorists to infiltrate army checkpoints and bases across NE Nigeria.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:59pm On Nov 12, 2019
HAPPENING NOW: NIGERIAN ARMY SMALL ARMS CHAMPIONSHIP (NASAC) 2019. The special guest of Honour was His Excellency, the Executive Governor of Oyo State, Engr Seyi Abiodun Makinde while delivering his Remarks during the Opening Ceremony.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:07pm On Nov 12, 2019
bidexiii:
HAPPENING NOW: NIGERIAN ARMY SMALL ARMS CHAMPIONSHIP (NASAC) 2019. The special guest of Honour was His Excellency, the Executive Governor of Oyo State, Engr Seyi Abiodun Makinde while delivering his Remarks during the Opening Ceremony.
So close by! But there's no one I have to go and greet in barracks today

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 7:51pm On Nov 12, 2019
Jelal0007:
dude keep kwayet.
Child

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 1:04am On Nov 13, 2019
jln115:
the mi-35/24 has been in production since the 1970s....and its also cheap, hence 80 countries have bought it.

In terms of capability the Mi 28 has better flight characteristics example: faster cruise speed, higher service ceiling, higher hover ceiling(mi 35 is actually horrible at hovering) , better clime rate, it has Radar(mi 35m does not), it can Carry AAMs(mi 35m cannot), the Mi 28 also has better survivability, smaller cross section, better avionics and has an advanced HMD.

Ma bruz, nobody here knows exact factory price of Mi-35 or Mi-28 to say one is cheaper, price varies with model type and configuration add-ons.

Mi-35 came 1970s, Mi-28 was 1980s, just 10 year gap, and since 1980s, world air forces rejected Mi-28, chose Apache or Mi-35, etc. Truth is Mi-28 was rejected by whole world air forces that evaluate both helicopters, including air force of Russia until 2000s when new Mi-28 night version was built with radar. Not all Mi-28 have radar till today.

History quote:

"Design of Mi-28 began under Marat Tishchenko 1980, a prototype first flew November 1982, but in October 1984 Soviet Air Force chose the more advanced Kamov Ka-50. Mi-28A program was cancelled in 1993 because it was deemed uncompetitive with the Ka-50, particularly because Mi-28 it was not all-weather capable."

Bruz we see Mi-28 struggle and fail for 20 years to rival Apache, Mi-35 was Apache rival in the market. Mi-35 is even said to be more expensive by some sources.

Mi-35 too has a radar for navigation but not targeting. Mi-35 can carry Igla air to air missiles. Targeting radar and HMD are not big advantage in gunship role, only FLIR can differentiate ground targets as friend or foe in CAS role, Mi-28 radar can pick friendly forces and its HMD will attack it's own army because it cannot differentiate friend or foe. FLIR is the only solution and Mi-35 has the most advanced FLIR in Russia today, making Mi-35 both day & fully night combat all weather capable. Mi-35 is said to alhave anti-maritime strike functions not on Mi-28. The Mi-35 pilots cockpit armour resists 37mm shells while Mi-28 cockpit resists only 14.5mm bullets. Mi-35 speed is also a bit faster than Mi-28. New Mi-35M has longer range & endurance airborne hours than Mi-28. Lastly new 2005 variant Mi-35M is quoted by Air Force Technology website as having the newest electronic counter measures, heat signature suppressors, noise reduction, infra red jammer, new hovering and high & hot Capabilities, laser & missile warning, terrain hugging flight guided by its own onboard radar, long range radio comms, all needed guided missile types & bombs, it has many redundancy vital components meaning extra vital parts already fixed onboard as replacement without workshop.

These explains why 80 air forces fly Mi-35 but 2 fly Mi-28, it's because of ability to do all needed jobs of gunship, not lower price or lesser weapons speculated by people judging with sexy look alike design of Mi-28 copied to look like Apache for marketing purposes, but reality of market buyers did not happen as expected, the world air forces chose Mi-35 as their own rival to Apache.

The key words used to summarize Mi-35M by good websites is that it is built with NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART AVIONICS, so nothing more advanced is on Mi-28 because Mi-35M is already using maximum existing capability of technology. Mi-35M can execute EVERY MISSION PROFILE like the best among variants of Mi-28 called Night Hunter, including all night combats, and 16 missile heavy payload. 80 air forces choose Mi-35 for it's ability to do ALL jobs they want helicopter gunships to do, no sentiments about two extra added non-decisive features on Mi-28.

I am done wit dis matter. Dear brothers, adieu !
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 2:59am On Nov 13, 2019
WARTHUNDER:


Ma bruz, 1. nobody here knows exact factory price of Mi-35 or Mi-28 to say one is cheaper, price varies with model type and configuration add-ons.

2. Mi-35 came 1970s, Mi-28 was 1980s, just 10 year gap, and since 1980s, world air forces rejected Mi-28, chose Apache or Mi-35, etc. Truth is Mi-28 was rejected by whole world air forces that evaluate both helicopters, including air force of Russia until 2000s when new Mi-28 night version was built with radar. Not all Mi-28 have radar till today.

History quote:

"Design of Mi-28 began under Marat Tishchenko 1980, a prototype first flew November 1982, but in October 1984 Soviet Air Force chose the more advanced Kamov Ka-50. Mi-28A program was cancelled in 1993 because it was deemed uncompetitive with the Ka-50, particularly because Mi-28 it was not all-weather capable."

Bruz we see Mi-28 struggle and fail for 20 years to rival Apache, Mi-35 was Apache rival in the market. Mi-35 is even said to be more expensive by some sources.

4.Mi-35 too has a radar for navigation but not targeting. 5[b]Mi-35 can carry Igla air to air missiles[/b]. Targeting 6.radar and HMD are not big advantage in gunship role, only 7.FLIR can differentiate ground targets as friend or foe in CAS role, Mi-28 radar can pick friendly forces and 8.its HMD will attack it's own army because it cannot differentiate friend or foe. FLIR is the only solution and 9.Mi-35 has the most advanced FLIR in Russia today, making Mi-35 both day & fully night combat all weather capable. Mi-35 is said to alhave anti-maritime strike functions not on Mi-28. The Mi-35 pilots cockpit armour resists 37mm shells while Mi-28 cockpit resists only 14.5mm bullets. Mi-35 speed is also a bit faster than Mi-28. New Mi-35M has longer range & endurance airborne hours than Mi-28. Lastly new 2005 variant Mi-35M is quoted by Air Force Technology website as having the newest electronic counter measures, heat signature suppressors, noise reduction, infra red jammer, new hovering and high & hot Capabilities, laser & missile warning, terrain hugging flight guided by its own onboard radar, long range radio comms, all needed guided missile types & bombs, it has many redundancy vital components meaning extra vital parts already fixed onboard as replacement without workshop.

These explains why 80 air forces fly Mi-35 but 2 fly Mi-28, it's because of ability to do all needed jobs of gunship, not lower price or lesser weapons speculated by people judging with sexy look alike design of Mi-28 copied to look like Apache for marketing purposes, but reality of market buyers did not happen as expected, the world air forces chose Mi-35 as their own rival to Apache.

The key words used to summarize Mi-35M by good websites is that it is built with NEW STATE-OF-THE-ART AVIONICS, so nothing more advanced is on Mi-28 because Mi-35M is already using maximum existing capability of technology. Mi-35M can execute EVERY MISSION PROFILE like the best among variants of Mi-28 called Night Hunter, including all night combats, and 16 missile heavy payload. 80 air forces choose Mi-35 for it's ability to do ALL jobs they want helicopter gunships to do, no sentiments about two extra added non-decisive features on Mi-28.

I am done wit dis matter. Dear brothers, adieu !
1. Anybody can do a simple Google search and find the exact price countries have paid for either the mi 28 or mi 35.......and if you did your research you'll find that the mi 35 is alot cheaper.

2. Mi 35 entered service in 1972.....the mi 28 entered service in 2009.....how can countries reject the mi 28 when it was never in production?? Also the Mi 28 was only due to go into production in the early 90s.....20 years after the mi 35.

3. What sources?? Just go look at what for example Algeria paid for their mi 35 vs what they paid for their mi 28.....youll find that the mi 35 is a lot cheaper.

4. The Mi35M uses NVG and GPS for navigation..... It does not have radar.

5. Fair enough I'll concede this point.

6. How you can say this with a straight face is beyond me.....

7. Do you know what FLIR is?? Its simply a infrared camera..... How is a camera going to distinguish between friend and foe??

8. Do you know what an HMD is.... And how it works?

9. Source?

The rest is not worth a response.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:43am On Nov 13, 2019
Toju200:
So no new pics on Ezugwu MRAP or ARA MRAP or Andonni, Karaduwa or the SDB3 under construction,tsaigumi uav
Una know how I take like Indigenous hardware naaaa grin
@Kabe1
@bidexiii

NIGERIAN ARMY, DICON SIGN AGREEMENT FOR EZUGWU MRAP VEHICLES PRODUCTION

The Nigerian Army on Tuesday formalised agreement with the Defence Industries Corporation of NIGERIA / Command Engineering Depot on mass production of 28 Mines Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles for its counter terrorism/insurgency and other operations across the nation.

The agreement was signed by the Chief of Army Staff, Lt Gen Tukur Yusufu Buratai, represented by the Chief of Policy and Plans, 'Army' Lt Gen Lamidi Adeosun and the Director General of DICON, Maj Gen Victor Ezugwu at the Army Headquarters Abuja.

Buratai disclosed that the agreement would enable DICON/CED to roll out the vehicles within a specified period of time.

This act by the Nigerian Army under the dynamic and ingenious leadership of Lt Gen TY Buratai is in line with the Federal Government of Nigeria local content policy, where the Army has since been working assiduously to locally manufacture/produce her basic requirements in the areas of lift capability, light weapons, Armoured Personnel CarrierHe and kitting.

According to him " it was in furtherance of the government’s effort to reduce reliance on foreign countries to acquire the needed equipment for its operations towards addressing the prevailing security challenges across the country that this event is been executed today.

Buratai commended DICON for its commitment to developing local content and capacity of the home based engineers of the Nigerian Army to solve the nation’s security problems.

He added that the initiative was to look inward through research and development to come up with what can be called indigenous MRAP vehicle.

“We are gathered here today to actualise one of the lofty dreams of the army in reducing challenges of having to rely on everything from outside Nigeria in terms of lethal equipment for Nigerian Army.

“Lethal requirement is one of the critical requirements that assist in professionally discharging our duties after good training.

“We have been relying solely in getting this critical equipment from outside.

“All of us are fully aware of the challenges that the Nigerian Army and Nigeria as a country has continued to face in all attempt to acquire all important military equipment for Nigerian armed forces particularly the army.

“We will go ahead to sign the agreement for the first ever locally produced MRAPs by the Nigerian Army in collaboration with DICON and Command Enguneering Depot in phases of the contract agreement,’’ he said.

Responding, the Director General of DICON, said that the first batch of the 10 MRAPs in production at its factory in Kaduna would be delivered in December, 2019.

He assured that the company had the capacity and the manpower to execute the agreement in line with the government’s plan to develop local content.

According to him, I want to assure you that we will meet the timeline for this contract and the first set of 10 of these vehicles will be ready by early December this year.

“The partnership has brought about the first indigenous MRAP vehicle and I want to thank the Chief of Army Staff for having confidence in us which ordinarily would have been mission impossible.

“The beautiful thing about what we are witnessing today is that we are doing both research and development and production of this vehicle together.

“That is why in less than a year, we have the prototype produced and we are going into the mass production phase with this contract signing.

“I want to assure COAS that the standard that is contained in the characteristics of MRAP vehicle would be maintained.

“We have passed the phase of research and development, we are in full production,” he said.

Many senior army officers were in attendance during the historic event which include the Chief of Logistics Army Maj Gen JI Unuigbe, Chief of Projects and Programmes Maj Gen MSA Aliyu, Corp Commander Ordnance Maj Gen OA Akintade, Director Legal Services Maj Gen YI, Shalangwa and Commander Command Enguneering Depot Brig Gen SS Araoye.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:44am On Nov 13, 2019
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by oyinpr(m): 5:46am On Nov 13, 2019
jln115:

1. Anybody can do a simple Google search and find the exact price countries have paid for either the mi 28 or mi 35.......and if you did your research you'll find that the mi 35 is alot cheaper.

2. Mi 35 entered service in 1972.....the mi 28 entered service in 2009.....how can countries reject the mi 28 when it was never in production?? Also the Mi 28 was only due to go into production in the early 90s.....20 years after the mi 35.

3. What sources?? Just go look at what for example Algeria paid for their mi 35 vs what they paid for their mi 28.....youll find that the mi 35 is a lot cheaper.

4. The Mi35M uses NVG and GPS for navigation..... It does not have radar.

5. Fair enough I'll concede this point.

6. How you can say this with a straight face is beyond me.....

7. Do you know what FLIR is?? Its simply a infrared camera..... How is a camera going to distinguish between friend and foe??

8. Do you know what an HMD is.... And how it works?

9. Source?

The rest is not worth a response.
bro you even get time dey follow the guy talk I envy your patience.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:50am On Nov 13, 2019
NORTH EAST DEVT COMMISSION TO PARTNER NIG ARMY TO REPAIR DESTROYED FACILITIES IN THE NORTH-EAST

The North-East Development Commission (NEDC) has assured the Nigerian Army (NA) of its desire and unwavering commitment to repairing roads and other critical infrastructure destroyed as a result of insurgency in North-East.

Its Chairman Governing Board, Maj Gen
Paul Tarfa (rtd), gave the assurance while receiving the Chief of Army Staff (COAS), Lieutenant General Tukur Yusufu Buratai, and some principal officers of the Army, who paid a courtesy call to the Commission's office in Abuja today the 12th of November 2019.

According to Gen Tarfa, the leadership of the Army has done a lot in terms of the war against terrorism and insurgency as well as rehabilitating and constructing important infrastructure and other basic amenities that were totally destroyed or affected by Boko Haram terrorists in the last ten years.

While welcoming the COAS, and his delegation, the Chairman, said his commission will support and offer necessary assistance to officers and men of the Army, in a bid to ensure that they effectively prosecute the war against insurgency which is for the common good for all Nigerians.

"The Nigerian Military, especially the Army, is one of our strategic partners in the North-East.

"Indeed, we appreciate the good work the Army is doing in the areas of security, rehabilitating several obsolete amenities and damaged infrastructural facilities.

"It is heartwarming that most of the facilities and buildings, have been rebuilt and new ones constructed by the Army, at several affected communities across the North East Zone.

"These kind gestures done by the Army leadership, have tremendously assisted the traumatized and affected people of Borno, Adamawa, Yobe and other parts of the North-East.

"Once again, we sincerely appreciate what you and your team are doing. And we want to assure you that we will partner with you, and assist you in diverse ways," he said.

Earlier in his remark, Lt Gen Buratai, said their visit to the Commission is the beginning of good, and beneficial relationship between the Army and NEDC.

He noted that both the Commission and the Army have and are pursuing common national interests and goals, hence there is need for a robust partnership in order to actualize the laudable objectives of the commission.

The COAS, who described members of the recently-established Commission as men of impeccable integrity and exceptional administrative pedigree, disclosed that the collapse of several infrastructure in the North-East is impacting negatively on the Army's operations.

He said: "There are several infrastructure that have been damaged beyond repair in the North-East as a result of Boko Haram's insurgency.

"On the other hand, several of our military barracks are also dilapidated, and urgently require speedy renovations works to be done on them. Also the families/widows that are left behind by our deceased colleagues require some form of incentives to pursue a worthy meaningful means of livelihood.

"As such, the Commission should strive and look into the problem of collapsed infrastructure in the North-East, especially roads and housing as well as the condition of widows in the Barracks.

"There is need for fundamental steps to be taken to repair the collapsed roads, and other facilities, so as to assist troops prosecute the counter-insurgency war and also decimate the remaining terrorists."

All the Executive Directors and other members of the commission/Board were present during the visit.

Lt Gen LO Adeosun the Chief of Policy and Plans Army, Commander Engineers Corps Maj Gen JS Malu, Chief of Logistics Army, Maj Gen JI Unuigbe, Coordinator Special duties Office of the Chief of Army Staff Maj Gen SA Yaro and Maj Gen KO Kadiri Group Managing Director Nigerian Army Welfare Ltd/Guaranty also blessed the occasion.
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Others are - Commander Budget and accounts of the Nigerian Army Maj Gen AR Bakare, Corps Commander Ordnance Maj Gen OA Akintade, representatives of the Chief of Military Intelligence and Provost Marshall 'Army' Brig Gens A Yellow Duke and ME John Okon respectively.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:57am On Nov 13, 2019
CAS VISITS INDIA, SEEKS PARTNERSHIP IN TRAINING, R&D

The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, has led a delegation of senior Nigerian Air Force (NAF) officers on a visit to India to seek for avenues to strengthen strategic partnerships for capacity building and Research and Development (R&D) with a view to further boosting the NAF’s operational effectiveness in the fight against insurgency and other forms of criminality in the country. The visit, which is holding from 11 - 14 November 2019, is at the instance of the Indian Government through an invitation extended by the CAS of the Indian Air Force (IAF), Air Chief Marshal Rakesh Singh Bhadauria. While in India, Air Marshal Abubakar, who has already paid formal courtesy calls on the IAF CAS and the Deputy Chief of the Indian Army, will hold several other high level meetings as well as visit some IAF Bases and facilities in the Country.

The CAS was received on arrival in Delhi, the Indian capital, by a delegation from IAF and the Defence Adviser (DA) at Nigeria’s High Commission, Navy Commodore Olusegun Fereira, as well as the DAs of Senegal, Niger Republic, Ghana and Egypt. Those accompanying the CAS on the visit include the Chief of Training and Operations Headquarters (HQ) NAF, Air Vice Marshal (AVM) Oladayo Amao, and the Chief of Logistics HQ NAF, AVM Mohammed Yakubu, among others.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 1:19pm On Nov 13, 2019
#Libya- photo purportedly showing #LNA #Jordan|ian KADDB-made al-Mared 8X8 APC in Bani Walid, this APC as closed similarities with the NA EZUGWU MRAP

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WARTHUNDER: 1:34pm On Nov 13, 2019
jln115:

1. Anybody can do a simple Google search and find the exact price countries have paid for either the mi 28 or mi 35.......and if you did your research you'll find that the mi 35 is alot cheaper.

2. Mi 35 entered service in 1972.....the mi 28 entered service in 2009.....how can countries reject the mi 28 when it was never in production?? Also the Mi 28 was only due to go into production in the early 90s.....20 years after the mi 35.

3. What sources?? Just go look at what for example Algeria paid for their mi 35 vs what they paid for their mi 28.....youll find that the mi 35 is a lot cheaper.

4. The Mi35M uses NVG and GPS for navigation..... It does not have radar.

5. Fair enough I'll concede this point.

6. How you can say this with a straight face is beyond me.....

7. Do you know what FLIR is?? Its simply a infrared camera..... How is a camera going to distinguish between friend and foe??

8. Do you know what an HMD is.... And how it works?

9. Source?

The rest is not worth a response.

I told you bruz, am done. I don't have interest in winning online forum arguments.

I understand FLIR infra red, HMD helmet sight, I know how dey do IFF and radar only beeps showing dots so it cannot I.D. friend or foe among men and vehices on battlefields, I have posted photos to show it here weeks ago, and I won't repost it again, sorry.

Only each buyer can tell us exact price of his own variant of Mi-35M, M2 or Mi-28A, NE etc, they have different avionic configuration options. Published prices you see are total contract value including spare parts, weapons, training, bribes, etc.

Some estimate Mi-35 & Mi-28 at $15 m to $25 m, prices change per year order dates. Some are even rebuilt second hand Mi-24. How much did NAF pay for Mi-35M in 2016?

Everything I said in dat long Mi-35 analysis has published source on internet, invest your time like I did, google many web sources, you will find all my claims 100% correct.

I will only give you two sources, no time for nine.

"Some HIND E and Mi-35 series export versions have upgraded night and weather capabilities, better avionics, weather RADAR."

https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm

That weather radar helps navigation away from hazards not GPS navig role. For Mi-24/35 to continue to into the future as rival of Apache in world market, Russia released new AESA radar for Mi-24 Hind while Mi-28N​ has older Doppler radar. Mi-35M option with new AESA radar for weapon targeting is available for anybody hungry for radar.

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mi-24p-1m/

There's nothing on Mi-28 you cannot get on Mi-35M today if you choose variant with full options, that's why it's officially called Mi-35M Hind E State-of-The-Art variant. It will continue to beat Mi-28 in world market based on functionality and remain the real rival of Apache.

"The Mi-28 program was cancelled in 1993 because it was deemed uncompetitive with the Ka-50, and in particular, it was not all-weather capable."

http://parts.jspayne.com/php/SummaryGet.php?FindGo=Mil_Mi-28N

Please am tired of dis argument, u are free 2 ignore​ facts my bruz. grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 2:13pm On Nov 13, 2019
bidexiii:


NIGERIAN ARMY, DICON SIGN AGREEMENT FOR EZUGWU MRAP VEHICLES PRODUCTION

The Nigerian Army on Tuesday formalised agreement with the Defence Industries Corporation of NIGERIA / Command Engineering Depot on mass production of 28 Mines Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles for its counter terrorism/insurgency and other operations across the nation.

The agreement was signed by the Chief of Army Staff, Lt Gen Tukur Yusufu Buratai, represented by the Chief of Policy and Plans, 'Army' Lt Gen Lamidi Adeosun and the Director General of DICON, Maj Gen Victor Ezugwu at the Army Headquarters Abuja.

Buratai disclosed that the agreement would enable DICON/CED to roll out the vehicles within a specified period of time.

This act by the Nigerian Army under the dynamic and ingenious leadership of Lt Gen TY Buratai is in line with the Federal Government of Nigeria local content policy, where the Army has since been working assiduously to locally manufacture/produce her basic requirements in the areas of lift capability, light weapons, Armoured Personnel CarrierHe and kitting.

According to him " it was in furtherance of the government’s effort to reduce reliance on foreign countries to acquire the needed equipment for its operations towards addressing the prevailing security challenges across the country that this event is been executed today.

Buratai commended DICON for its commitment to developing local content and capacity of the home based engineers of the Nigerian Army to solve the nation’s security problems.

He added that the initiative was to look inward through research and development to come up with what can be called indigenous MRAP vehicle.

“We are gathered here today to actualise one of the lofty dreams of the army in reducing challenges of having to rely on everything from outside Nigeria in terms of lethal equipment for Nigerian Army.

“Lethal requirement is one of the critical requirements that assist in professionally discharging our duties after good training.

“We have been relying solely in getting this critical equipment from outside.

“All of us are fully aware of the challenges that the Nigerian Army and Nigeria as a country has continued to face in all attempt to acquire all important military equipment for Nigerian armed forces particularly the army.

“We will go ahead to sign the agreement for the first ever locally produced MRAPs by the Nigerian Army in collaboration with DICON and Command Enguneering Depot in phases of the contract agreement,’’ he said.

Responding, the Director General of DICON, said that the first batch of the 10 MRAPs in production at its factory in Kaduna would be delivered in December, 2019.

He assured that the company had the capacity and the manpower to execute the agreement in line with the government’s plan to develop local content.

According to him, I want to assure you that we will meet the timeline for this contract and the first set of 10 of these vehicles will be ready by early December this year.

“The partnership has brought about the first indigenous MRAP vehicle and I want to thank the Chief of Army Staff for having confidence in us which ordinarily would have been mission impossible.

“The beautiful thing about what we are witnessing today is that we are doing both research and development and production of this vehicle together.

“That is why in less than a year, we have the prototype produced and we are going into the mass production phase with this contract signing.

“I want to assure COAS that the standard that is contained in the characteristics of MRAP vehicle would be maintained.

“We have passed the phase of research and development, we are in full production,” he said.

Many senior army officers were in attendance during the historic event which include the Chief of Logistics Army Maj Gen JI Unuigbe, Chief of Projects and Programmes Maj Gen MSA Aliyu, Corp Commander Ordnance Maj Gen OA Akintade, Director Legal Services Maj Gen YI, Shalangwa and Commander Command Enguneering Depot Brig Gen SS Araoye.

thanks bidexiii my mind don rest

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 2:17pm On Nov 13, 2019
Some more pictures from Grand African NEMO. Credit: Photo by PIUS UTOMI EKPEI / AFP)

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