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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kopfschmerzen12: 9:32pm On Nov 13, 2019
Just getting back to catch up, hope i have not missed much.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:41pm On Nov 13, 2019
Anduku:

I already knew it wouldn't be long before you resort to insults, that's the only thing you excel in. I'm not surprised
It's the truth. You are so damn stuck in not seeing that the emperor has no clothes.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 9:42pm On Nov 13, 2019
tonididdy:
Is attempted murder a crime?
Is attempted rape a crime?



... So therefore is attempted bribery a crime?, Trump attempted to bribe zelensky for his own personal electioneering gains. That is a crime according to US laws.

Where was the attempt? did he offer zelensky a bribe? did he ask anyone to offer zelensky a bribe? Lol, the media know that their quid pro quo/bribery argument has already collapsed so they are trying to shift to "attempted to " grin. What a bunch of clowns!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kopfschmerzen12: 9:44pm On Nov 13, 2019
Anduku:


Where was the attempt? did he offer zelensky a bribe? did he ask anyone to offer zelensky a bribe? Lol, the media know that their quid pro quo/bribery argument has already collapsed so they are trying to shift to "attempted to " grin. What a bunch of clowns!!


the emperor can't do no wrong. You are a clown.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:44pm On Nov 13, 2019
Anduku:


Where was the attempt? did he offer zelensky a bribe? did he ask anyone to offer zelensky a bribe? Lol, the media know that their quid pro quo/bribery argument has already collapsed so they are trying to shift to "attempted to " grin. What a bunch of clowns!!
Lol...Like I said earlier on they're attempting to change the narrative. Quid pro quo argument is dead, so they're shifting the goal post.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:47pm On Nov 13, 2019
obixcel:
Lol...Like I said earlier on they're attempting to change the narrative. Quid pro quo argument is dead, so they're shifting the goal post.
It's part of the argument plus bribery too. That's why They call it Articles of impeachment. Get your facts right. We went through the same thing during Clinton second term. You guys are so full of crap.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:51pm On Nov 13, 2019
The bottom line is that Taliban Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives and the trial will go to the Senate where there will be tremendous amount of pressure on Republicons but i believe the gutless and spineless Republicons will acquit him but his record will be forever stained and the real whooping will come on Nov 3rd of 2020 when Americans will take their pound of flesh.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:57pm On Nov 13, 2019
Breaking News: Former Governor of Massachusetts Patrick Devaul is now joining the Dem Presidential crowd. Too late.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 10:02pm On Nov 13, 2019
Summary of Taylor's testimony,

Taylor never met President Trump or talked to his Chief of Staff about any quid pro quo

Zelensky never mentioned anything about any quid pro quo to him.

His testimony is all hearsay of what other people said

And this guy is supposed to be the Democrats star witness undecided

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:12pm On Nov 13, 2019
So far, the impeachment testimony has been a major bust for Democrats. All Dems have been able to show is that they have Trump-hating bureaucrats, who think they are in charge of foreign policy and that the President is there to do their bidding. Not looking good

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:16pm On Nov 13, 2019
In other news,

Mark Sanford drops presidential bid against Trump

Former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford ended his short-lived bid for the Republican presidential nomination on Tuesday, just 60 days after he announced his challenge to President Donald Trump.

Sanford made the surprise announcement at a news conference outside the New Hampshire statehouse. He said the impeachment inquiry has snuffed out his efforts to call attention to his critique of Trump as president.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/12/mark-sanford-presidential-bid-trump-069872

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:28pm On Nov 13, 2019
Anduku:
Summary of Taylor's testimony,

Taylor never met President Trump or talked to his Chief of Staff about any quid pro quo

Zelensky never mentioned anything about any quid pro quo to him.

His testimony is all hearsay of what other people said

And this guy is supposed to be the Democrats star witness undecided


The man's testimony was a let down, what did he mean by he can only say what others said? If you don't know anything for yourself, why not allow those with the firsthand knowledge come and testify for themselves

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by garetz: 10:30pm On Nov 13, 2019
obixcel:
Lol...Like I said earlier on they're attempting to change the narrative. Quid pro quo argument is dead, so they're shifting the goal post.
You're on point, that's exactly what's happening

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:43pm On Nov 13, 2019
Anduku:
Summary of Taylor's testimony,

Taylor never met President Trump or talked to his Chief of Staff about any quid pro quo

Zelensky never mentioned anything about any quid pro quo to him.

His testimony is all hearsay of what other people said

And this guy is supposed to be the Democrats star witness undecided

Hahaha! Democrats proped him up as their "star witness" whereas he himself admitted that he isn't a star witness. He wasn't even on the call President Trump had with the Ukrainian President.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CTPlayer: 10:46pm On Nov 13, 2019
Anduku:
Summary of Taylor's testimony,

Taylor never met President Trump or talked to his Chief of Staff about any quid pro quo

Zelensky never mentioned anything about any quid pro quo to him.

His testimony is all hearsay of what other people said

And this guy is supposed to be the Democrats star witness undecided

4 inconvenient facts for the Democrat impeachment fantasy:

- Call transcript shows zero link between aid and political investigations
- Aid was released WITHOUT any new investigations
- Ukraine didn’t know aid was withheld during the call
- Trump/Zelensky both say: zero pressure

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:50pm On Nov 13, 2019
CTPlayer:
4 inconvenient facts for the Democrat impeachment fantasy:

- Call transcript shows zero link between aid and political investigations
- Aid was released WITHOUT any new investigations
- Ukraine didn’t know aid was withheld during the call
- Trump/Zelensky both say: zero pressure
Gbam!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by CTPlayer: 11:46pm On Nov 13, 2019
So in a nutshell:

Biden threatens Ukraine.
Trump wants to know why.
Therefore Trump should be thrown out of office.

Is that about right? I'm trying to wrap my head around prog logic...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 11:49pm On Nov 13, 2019
obixcel:
Hahaha! Democrats proped him up as their "star witness" whereas he himself admitted that he isn't a star witness. He wasn't even on the call President Trump had with the Ukrainian President.
This exchange with Jim Jordan says it all;

Jim Jordan: You didn’t listen in on President Trump & Zelensky’s call?

Taylor: I did not.

Jordan: You’ve never talked with Chief of Staff Mulvaney?

Taylor: I never did.

Jordan: You’ve never met the President?

Taylor: That’s correct.

Jordan: And you’re their star witness?


Democrats want to impeach the president based on the testimony of a "witness" who didn't witness anything grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 12:04am On Nov 14, 2019
Anduku:
Summary of Taylor's testimony,

Taylor never met President Trump or talked to his Chief of Staff about any quid pro quo

Zelensky never mentioned anything about any quid pro quo to him.

His testimony is all hearsay of what other people said

And this guy is supposed to be the Democrats star witness undecided


A "star witness" that didn't witness anything grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:06am On Nov 14, 2019
coluka:

This exchange with Jim Jordan says it all;

Jim Jordan: You didn’t listen in on President Trump & Zelensky’s call?

Taylor: I did not.

Jordan: You’ve never talked with Chief of Staff Mulvaney?

Taylor: I never did.

Jordan: You’ve never met the President?

Taylor: That’s correct.

Jordan: And you’re their star witness?


Democrats want to impeach the president based on the testimony of a "witness" who didn't witness anything grin grin grin
We are still waiting for the "whistle-blower" to testify

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:09am On Nov 14, 2019
coluka:


A "star witness" that didn't witness anything grin
Lol..If I could do the Shiff parody, it was more like, "somebody told me what the other guy told him..." grin Just based on Heresay

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 12:13am On Nov 14, 2019
obixcel:
We are still waiting for the "whistle-blower" to testify
It's going to be interesting when this gets to the Senate, the cowardly "whistle-blower" will have no where to hide then

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:16am On Nov 14, 2019
coluka:

This exchange with Jim Jordan says it all;

Jim Jordan: You didn’t listen in on President Trump & Zelensky’s call?

Taylor: I did not.

Jordan: You’ve never talked with Chief of Staff Mulvaney?

Taylor: I never did.

Jordan: You’ve never met the President?

Taylor: That’s correct.

Jordan: And you’re their star witness?


Democrats want to impeach the president based on the testimony of a "witness" who didn't witness anything grin grin grin


It is rather unfortunate that these are the best questions Joe Jordan is asking. Yes the witness don't have direct link to the phone call, their testimonies transcripts from closed door hearings and the public hearing today fully collaborate the July 25 phone call transcript released by the White House (try to read the phone call transcript again). One of the witness I believe Taylor further mentioned another damning allegation about one of his staff listening to a phone call between Snodland and Trump.

The Republicans are not seious, they are still mentioning Obama, Hillary Clinton, Fusion Intels, issues going back to 2014, how pathetic.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:27am On Nov 14, 2019
feedthenation:



It is rather unfortunate that these are the best questions Joe Jordan is asking. Yes the witness don't have direct link to the phone call, their testimonies transcripts from closed door hearings and the public hearing today fully collaborate the July 25 phone call transcript released by the White House (try to read the phone call transcript again). One of the witness I believe Taylor further mentioned another damning allegation about one of his staff listening to a phone call between Snodland and Trump.

The Republicans are not seious, they are still mentioning Obama, Hillary Clinton, Fusion Intels, issues going back to 2014, how pathetic.
Take your scraps to the dung hill where they belong...Dems are losing it. It will all fall apart like the Mueller drama.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 12:40am On Nov 14, 2019
feedthenation:



It is rather unfortunate that these are the best questions Joe Jordan is asking. Yes the witness don't have direct link to the phone call, their testimonies transcripts from closed door hearings and the public hearing today fully collaborate the July 25 phone call transcript released by the White House (try to read the phone call transcript again). One of the witness I believe Taylor further mentioned another damning allegation about one of his staff listening to a phone call between Snodland and Trump.

The Republicans are not seious, they are still mentioning Obama, Hillary Clinton, Fusion Intels, issues going back to 2014, how pathetic.
It's pathetic to think you can impeach a president based on hearsay, even pick pockets are not convicted based on hearsay

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BraniacX(m): 12:41am On Nov 14, 2019
Anduku:

What is funny is how Democrats built this entire sham on an argument that trump offered aid in exchange for dirt on his political opponents but their STAR WITNESS has already admitted that nothing like that happened.
their star witness? And stop playing semantics, offered aid in exchange indeed, extorting illegal requirements in exchange for aid is more apt
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:50am On Nov 14, 2019
coluka:

It's pathetic to think you can impeach a president based on hearsay, even pick pockets are not convicted based on hearsay



Total rubbish. Hearsay indeed. Have you taken time to read the July 25 phone call transcript between Trump and Zelenskyy.

It's even more pathetic that the Republicans can impeach Clinton for lying about getting a bl0w-job from an intern, whilst Saint Trump can get away with clear-cut bribery scandal - by asking 'for a favor' based on 'something for something'.

The Republicans line of questioning today is built on pure, unadulterated bull shit. It’s just falsehoods and conspiracies. Total and utter nonsense.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:53am On Nov 14, 2019
coluka:

It's pathetic to think you can impeach a president based on hearsay, even pick pockets are not convicted based on hearsay
My millionaire buddy, you are just getting worse by the day. I know you don't have electricity to watch what was unfolding. Your lips must be all Orange now from licking the Orange pig rear by now.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 12:58am On Nov 14, 2019
If you needed more proof the impeachment hearing went badly for Dems, they are now talking of the importance of ‘hearsay’ grin

“Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct evidence” Democrat rep. Mike Quigley (IL)

Lol, these jokers are losing it!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:59am On Nov 14, 2019
obixcel:
Take your scraps to the dung hill where they belong...Dems are losing it. It will all fall apart like the Mueller drama.

Whether the hearing falls apart or not, one thing is certain, Trump is not mentally or politically fit to hold any public office in the United States of America, he should have quietly stick with his tv shows or real estate business.

The impeachment public hearing is not to convince Trump supporters, but to hold accountable the office of the president of the United States as it states in the Articles of Constitution drawn by the Founding Fathers, no one is above the law.

If this was a fair trial Bill Taylor’s testimony would be more than enough to indict Trump and get him out of office. He’s laying it all out in a very clear and concise manner. But unfortunately, this won’t matter a jot because of the cowardice of the Republicans. The 2 guys have got a combined career experience of more than 50 years working in both Republican and Democrat government.

Their note taking skills is impeccable, compared to Trump who even admitted that his Trump Foundation was charged in court because they don't take board minutes during their meetings.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 1:13am On Nov 14, 2019
feedthenation:




Total rubbish. Hearsay indeed. Have you taken time to read the July 25 phone call transcript between Trump and Zelenskyy.

It's even more pathetic that the Republicans can impeach Clinton for lying about a bl0w-job from an intern, whilst Saint Trump can get away with clear-cut bribery scandal - by asking 'for a favor' based on 'something for something'.

The Republicans line of questioning today is built on pure, unadulterated bull shit. It’s just falsehoods and conspiracies. Total and utter nonsense.
The intern that gave Clinton a bl0w-job wasn't reporting Hearsay, was she? grin. Your witness admitted to the world that he has no evidence for anything he was saying but he was just relying on hearsay yet you think the president should be impeached based on his testimony? FYI, I have read the transcripts and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Trump never asked 'for a favor' based on 'something for something'. grin
You have been bamboozled by the fake news media

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