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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:30pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
kikuyu1:which stat exactly? Cos all what rvp is posting is not stat but articles... i can as well do the same for ya. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
vaxx2:And Boom! What I foretold some pages back has now come to pass . Ghanaian admitting that Naigeria is blessed.!!? Vax of all the people |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:31pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:see someone talking about junk bonds when Kenya is in a debt burden that is unpayable and investors are shunning the junk bonds you keep listing By the time you realise, China will be ruling you because you are too indebted to them 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:35pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Just30:Is lying a national sport? We owe China Precisely for the Railway..about 5B dollars...we signed a take or pay with our port authority..if that won't work we have railway development levy that is charged on all imports that repay the loan.. annual you're talking 300m dollars or more..that is assuming our railway never pay for itself.Our policy wonks are some of African bests.This is not Ghana which is apparently is worse than Nigeria.By the time treasury has to use taxes to pay Chinese Ghana will well on its way to it's 30th IMF bail out.Note half Chinese debt is concessionary and small part commercial..at I think 0.5% above LIBOR. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:39pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:u mean u only owe d chinese $5b alone and its precisely owed for rail projects and nothing more? The irony of someone accusing another person of lying. Ja danu jor. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:40pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Shma:They sold us a lie.We bought it hook, line and sinker.Nigeria does a better job managing it's public finances 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:42pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182: if Ghana GDP was cooked like yours, our export values would have exposed us 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:45pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
theenchanter:We borrowed from China to build our Greenfield SGR.We have old British mgr running.We started planning for this long time.We started by just a 0.5% levy on every import.We saved money enough to buy the land..it's a Greenfield.We got a deal..50% commercial(small margin on LIBOR)..rest nearly zero interest loan.We just don't sign like Ghana any paperwork.Now we are deadlocked on the last phases because we told the Chinese we want grant half..and commercial loan half.Chinese are equally very smart.A Ghanian never saw a paper he didn't want to sign along the dotted line.How can we ever default when every importer pays for the Railway. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:47pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:Ghana does better job in managing public finance than Nigeria, the corruption index is there for all to see. U're just running amok and dropping trash, i only pity ur fellow kenyans that are encouraging ur madness. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:47pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:On ground things are different ;. Am now seeing the importance of that slogan |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:49pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
theenchanter:You cannot have 16 bailout and claim to better manage public finances.Nigeria is a zoo but slightly better in public finances.I think Ghana does well in basics like electricity. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:55pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:57pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Just30:What do you export..gold, aluminum, bauxite and diamond..now oil...those you've done ever since British discovered Gold Coast.They don't take you anywhere unless you diversity.Its like being high on cocaine and then dealing with withdrawal symptoms.You have to build modern formal economy.Look at Kenya..tea is down from 2.7 dollars a kilo to 2.1 dollars..real estate down..but other sectors cover for that.Imagine if we depended on tea..and it goes down 30%..whole economy get a 30% hit.That is akin to shit hitting the fan and we would line up in foreign embassies as economic refugees 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by psychologygh: 8:00pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:I will always say Ghana's debt to GDP will get to more than 100% just as Japan and other economies, we will call on IMF for another bailout and austerity measures, rinse and repeat.We've declared HIPC as a country before around 2001,all our debts were cancelled,we gained debt credibility ,loaned ourselves to debt, rebased our economy severally, sign up for more IMF programme,got out,loaned ourselves again and it has and will be repeating itself till we become a developed country. This year alone,we have issued a 3 billion dollars eurobond and next year we are issueing another 3 billion dollars eurobond again. In 1978 down to late 1990s,Ghana was virtually a failed state.Everyone abandoned us,we had NOTHING!,zero buh now we are listed among top ten largest economies and GDPs in Africa although our population is not even among top 15 largest in Africa,our GDP PPP surpasses Kenya,Tanzania,Sudan,DRC,and rivals with Ethiopia and co with a far larger population. Our GDP figures are not fake,in fact more than 70% of our economy is informal thus our 70-80 billion dollars GDP is whollefully understated.Just yesterday we budgeted 2 billion dollars just for roads in our inner cities in other regions,over 1 billion dollars is invested in free senior high school education both day and boarding nationwide and imagine our current literacy rate of 76%,by 2025,over 95% of the population will be literate and we enjoy universal health insurance programme nationwide. We far surpass Kenya in per capita both norminal and PPP,higher in HDI,FDI,exports,you see the only thing Kenya beats Ghana is population size and safari parks.I respect Kenya a lot but please concentrate on modernizing your Nairobi for your tourists and Nigeria and leave Ghana out of your bashing.Where was Kenya when Nkrumah was among league of nations. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:03pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:Ghana does not go to the IMF for financial reason but rather for political reasons |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by VicThory(m): 8:08pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Kenyan are busy attacking Ghana why there are in serious debt crisis. https://businesstoday.co.ke/kenyas-debt-ukur-yattani-kenyas-debt-ceiling-senators-vote-to-raise-debt-ceiling-president-uhuru-kenyatta/ 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:09pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
psychologygh:How do you measure or estimate an informal economy? it's like calculating GDP of the underworld.You don't do it.You formalize the economy.You turn the small business into SME then into Medium Enterprise then into real Enterprise then into multinational.What is the point of claiming you measure something unmeasurable like informal sector.Kenya and every country has such sector..US doesn't go measuring it's drug sector.It is worth maybe trillion of dollars.You don't do it.There are no credible data .They don't pay taxes They don't exist.Except outside the law.Any data will be a wield guestimate. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:11pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:even if we take mineral export like gold and oil from Ghana export, Ghana still export 10 billion dollars worth of goods that you dont Mean, a Ghanaian is more productive than a Kenyan 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:12pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182 you can't be attacking everyone my brother. The Ghanians (Just30, vaxx2 et al) have been good friends and allies. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:13pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:there is no informal economy in Kenya |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:13pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Just30:Gold or minerals is extraction..no productivity..brain dead..and if price fall..you are right into IMF warm embrace |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:14pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:Ghana's public finance is still better than yours, better managed than yours, spare me the imf bailout and worry about yours. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:14pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
NairobiWalker:F.off and nurture your kids.Why do you need allies in life.Galileo stood alone and said the earth was round..not flat. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by VicThory(m): 8:15pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
psychologygh:To kenya, development is about Nairobi and Mombassa and the rest are forest but we develop all places in the west. Bro don't argue with them cos a fool will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Leave them to face their debt crisis. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:15pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:i still cant understand why you are borrowing to pay maturing debt whiles Ghana is borrowing to build industries that can pay the debt. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:16pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Just30:So we don't default and call IMF.US,China and Kenya are doing the same.These are no laughing matter... defauting like Ghana takes forever to fix.You seethe kind of mess you're..every 3yrs..same problems.You want to avoid the endless negative feedback loop like ghana 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:18pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
psychologygh:Bro. Don't talk of modernizing Nairobi when Nairobi is far more modern than Accra. You can Google and see for yourself. HDI, We are almost in the same level, PPP respect for you guys but we are not by far to it bro. Kenya don't depend on safari parks alone, so many things, you can Google and see for yourself . Am calling you bro because Ghana and Kenya share a thing you know. We are not hating on each other, just a peaceful show you know personally I love Ghana . Just leave RVP ,Vaxx and maybe justo30 they are just three on this even when justo 30 claims Kenya is underdeveloped basing it on cement consumption I just laugh bellow waters but can't interfere with it coz Ghana and Ghanaians are our guys ; . Ghana is making a huge step in development and soon it will be one of the giants in Africa |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:18pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Just30:like seriously? Nigga. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:21pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
VicThory:I think Nakuru, Kisumu, Eldoret,Thika looks better than your cities. And we don't have minerals or that much arable land. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:22pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
theenchanter:You cannot invent your own facts.You cannot force say for example that the sky is green. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:23pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
rvp20182:na small small lunacy dey start. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 8:24pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Shma:Why are Ghanian escaping Ghana like Nigerians? You only see such desperation in war torn countries. Examine their data closely. |
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