Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 7:15pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
hosey:
See dont waste your time and argue again.
I wont argue again too.
But I am very happy that everyone now have the opportunity to decide what they want with informed decision. I dont want to here 'had I known'
That was the basis of this. ENLIGHTENMENT.
I need to stop people giving false hope not letting them know how many people come back to Nigeria with regret and mostly unemployed.
@all. If Frapzkid had more stay period in the UK when he graduated, he would have Tier 2 visa and have many opportunities to settle in the UK. Now, he is still planning back to come and study in the UK to obtain the PSW opportunity.
Not everyone and parent is opportuned to have this. That is why I advocate for you to make informed decision.
With your 2 year PSW, I see no reason why you wont get Tier 2 visa.
Follow me, Frapzkid and akinbo3 advise. Dont take advise from those who are already settled in the UK.
They dont know how it feels and how Nigeria is bad.
Remember your parents, families and freinds. Remember the poor in Nigeria.
If you are well settled and okay, you will have the capacity to empower people back home.
Dont make same mistake. Check other international forums too. Many people deferred to benefit from PSW
I wish you all the best.
They should not take advise from people who are already settled in the UK but from jjcs who are just a year old in the UK or haven't even seen the airport right? Just last year you were here asking for advice from the same people you are here bad mouthing, how can a blind man lead another blind people? I know more about what goes on in Nigeria than you can imagine as i visit almost yearly and have people i'm responsible for in Nigeria. I worked my backside off to see myself through education here and benefited from PSW when it was first launched, so unlike you i'm not talking from 2-3 person's experience. You know close to nothing. 3 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Sanmigbola: 7:17pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Youtook:
Checked already. They don’t have any of the specialized MBAs I want. Can I ask this, based on your experience in the UK is the generalized MBA not marketable compared to the specialised MBA. ALSO, does having certification in business analysis and IT open doors faster in the UK. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 7:19pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Youtook(f): 7:34pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Sanmigbola:
Can I ask this, based on your experience in the UK is the generalized MBA not marketable compared to the specialised MBA.
ALSO, does having certification in business analysis and IT open doors faster in the UK.
Generalist MBAs aren’t as marketable as specialized MBAs, not just in the UK but globally. I’m afraid I don’t have an answer to the second question. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Youtook(f): 7:36pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Tobexin(m): 7:45pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
hosey:
See dont waste your time and argue again.
I wont argue again too.
But I am very happy that everyone now have the opportunity to decide what they want with informed decision. I dont want to here 'had I known'
That was the basis of this. ENLIGHTENMENT.
I need to stop people giving false hope not letting them know how many people come back to Nigeria with regret and mostly unemployed.
@all. If Frapzkid had more stay period in the UK when he graduated, he would have Tier 2 visa and have many opportunities to settle in the UK. Now, he is still planning back to come and study in the UK to obtain the PSW opportunity.
Not everyone and parent is opportuned to have this. That is why I advocate for you to make informed decision.
With your 2 year PSW, I see no reason why you wont get Tier 2 visa.
Follow me, Frapzkid and akinbo3 advise. Dont take advise from those who are already settled in the UK.
They dont know how it feels and how Nigeria is bad.
Remember your parents, families and freinds. Remember the poor in Nigeria.
If you are well settled and okay, you will have the capacity to empower people back home.
Dont make same mistake. Check other international forums too. Many people deferred to benefit from PSW
I wish you all the best.
then what? I hate when guys think they know it all! |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by LagosismyHome(f): 8:27pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
STENON: no, except you have PGDE, BEd or BSc(Ed). The high demanding subjects are Physics, Mathematics, General science sometimes Biology or Chemistry You sure about this?.... I know someone who read law in Nigeria, came to UK to do a masters in Law and couldn't find a law job so she switched to teaching and now a teacher I think there is a conversion course or something |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Sanmigbola: 9:20pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Youtook:
Generalist MBAs aren’t as marketable as specialized MBAs, not just in the UK but globally.
I’m afraid I don’t have an answer to the second question. Thanks, but in my case this will be my second masters(General MBA) , my first masters was in operations and production management. Do you know how marketable operations management is in the UK? Considering the fact that I studied business Administration for my first degree. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by LaaJiblik: 10:21pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
hosey:
See dont waste your time and argue again.
I wont argue again too.
But I am very happy that everyone now have the opportunity to decide what they want with informed decision. I dont want to here 'had I known'
That was the basis of this. ENLIGHTENMENT.
I need to stop people giving false hope not letting them know how many people come back to Nigeria with regret and mostly unemployed.
@all. If Frapzkid had more stay period in the UK when he graduated, he would have Tier 2 visa and have many opportunities to settle in the UK. Now, he is still planning back to come and study in the UK to obtain the PSW opportunity.
Not everyone and parent is opportuned to have this. That is why I advocate for you to make informed decision.
With your 2 year PSW, I see no reason why you wont get Tier 2 visa.
Follow me, Frapzkid and akinbo3 advise. Dont take advise from those who are already settled in the UK.
They dont know how it feels and how Nigeria is bad.
Remember your parents, families and freinds. Remember the poor in Nigeria.
If you are well settled and okay, you will have the capacity to empower people back home.
Dont make same mistake. Check other international forums too. Many people deferred to benefit from PSW
I wish you all the best.
Kindly look at the bolded statement. I will not allow people to be misled by you. Dear prospective applicant: Even if you have a 5 year post-study visa, getting a qualifying tier-2 visa is not automatic. Again, I will suggest. Choose your course wisely. Choose your university wisely. There are Shit courses and there are Shit Universities too. Be strategic in your thinking. If your main aim is to use student visa to port from Buhari’s Naija. And you don’t want to return to this forum in some years time to curse the UK for pushing you out of their country after study, then please. Choose your course wisely. Choose your university wisely. If you are a professional at home, have the relevant certifications. Look up the potential UK job roles in your field. See the requirements and certifications needed. See if you can get those certifications. Before you go to the UK for studies. Do NOT be deceived by anyone who tells you that Tier-2 after 2 year PSW visa is a sure banker. Na lie. You can get a Tier-2 after a 9-month MSc. You can fail to get a tier-2 after a 2 year MSc (with placement) + a 2 year post study visa. The crux of the matter is: Your course. & Your relevant experience. 4 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by LagosismyHome(f): 10:27pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
hosey:
With your 2 year PSW, I see no reason why you wont get Tier 2 visa.
PSW is not a new invention oooo and it was stopped just here in 2012. Before then there was PSW but it didnt open doors for everyone . I know loads of people who had to go back after the PSW as it didnt roll over to Tier 2 Visa. So that statement above is a myth . A big myth That been said if UK doesnt have PSW I wont advice even my enemy to go near UK. Absolutely pointless and I discouraged everyone I knew 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by LagosismyHome(f): 10:35pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Sanmigbola:
Thanks, but in my case this will be my second masters(General MBA) , my first masters was in operations and production management. Do you know how marketable operations management is in the UK?
Considering the fact that I studied business Administration for my first degree. My experience with the UK is that the degree is not so much that important , what is important is what relevant work experience do u have or can you say you have .... once you can sell yourself on that CV and in an interview then you are good to go if there is demand in that area . While I do have an MBA , I dont think anyone in UK cared or checked it and I have worked or reported to people with no degree as well. Its seems its more about what can you bring to the table. ... however I am not talking about jobs like medicine, research, nursing etc. Those ones your degree matters but for corporation I dont think it does but you need the degree to get Visa and use it as an entry point into the system if you get what I mean So for job your focus is not the mba per say but what relevant work experience do u have in operational management or the area you want to focus in 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Youtook(f): 10:35pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Sanmigbola:
Thanks, but in my case this will be my second masters(General MBA) , my first masters was in operations and production management. Do you know how marketable operations management is in the UK?
Considering the fact that I studied business Administration for my first degree. I’m sorry. I have no idea. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 12:15am On Nov 15, 2019 |
LagosismyHome:
PSW is not a new invention oooo and it was stopped just here in 2012. Before then there was PSW but it didnt open doors for everyone . I know loads of people who had to go back after the PSW as it didnt roll over to Tier 2 Visa. So that statement above is a myth . A big myth
That been said if UK doesnt have PSW I wont advice even my enemy to go near UK. Absolutely pointless and I discouraged everyone I knew Ya I remembered when Theresa May ended it. Yes. Not everyone gets it. At least those that come back would have had considerable savings and work experience and then would build to other immigration programs like in Canada and Australia or even stay back in Nigeria and establish. I like your last advice. Thanks for discouraging them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Miele(f): 8:28am On Nov 15, 2019 |
LagosismyHome:
PSW is not a new invention oooo and it was stopped just here in 2012. Before then there was PSW but it didnt open doors for everyone . I know loads of people who had to go back after the PSW as it didnt roll over to Tier 2 Visa. So that statement above is a myth . A big myth
That been said if UK doesnt have PSW I wont advice even my enemy to go near UK. Absolutely pointless and I discouraged everyone I knew I was just coming to write this. PSW does not automatically guarantee anyone a job. It’s all based on luck and experience. I finished my degree this summer and I got two job offers from two big 4 firms. This was only within the space of 4 months that was left on my visa after graduation. One rescinded their offer because they couldn’t sponsor my visa - stupid HR thought the quota system applied to me but it didn’t cause I was switching from Tier 4. The other one came back to me with a start date and arrangements to start making my tier 2 application but I was already out of the country. Even with the PSW, some companies/firms will still be reluctant in employing a candidate that would require sponsorship. Experience, networking, making connections and applying for a thousands jobs a day will get you somewhere than banking on PSW but obviously with the PSW, you’ve got more time to send in applications. 3 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Zoey1: 9:33am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Let hosey be Justwise ,his only penchant is going from thread to thread insulting people and lording over them. Rude and arrogant to complement. If you hosey so want to force things down others throat, create a thread and choke them there. We learn here not insult. justwise:
You have being saying this for a long time now and i'm wondering where you found those people, who is deceiving who here? You joined this thread about a year ago while this thread is about 10yrs old with almost 95% sources rate but you being constantly bashing people who have an alternative view. 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Zoey1: 9:41am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Law is in high demand in the UK, but sadly for the person you know studying Masters in Law does not qualify one to be a lawyer anywhere in the world. To work as a Barrister in the UK one has to do Degree 3/4 years, LPC/BPTC (1year), Mini pupillage (1year) Then you get called to the English Bar. If you came in with a foreign degree: GDL (1year) LPC/BPTC (1year) Mini Pupillage. The you are called to the English Bar. LagosismyHome:
You sure about this?.... I know someone who read law in Nigeria, came to UK to do a masters in Law and couldn't find a law job so she switched to teaching and now a teacher
I think there is a conversion course or something |
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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Gavrelino123: 10:19am On Nov 15, 2019 |
LagosismyHome:
My experience with the UK is that the degree is not so much that important , what is important is what relevant work experience do u have or can you say you have .... once you can sell yourself on that CV and in an interview then you are good to go if there is demand in that area .
While I do have an MBA , I dont think anyone in UK cared or checked it and I have worked or reported to people with no degree as well. Its seems its more about what can you bring to the table. ... however I am not talking about jobs like medicine, research, nursing etc. Those ones your degree matters but for corporation I dont think it does but you need the degree to get Visa and use it as an entry point into the system if you get what I mean
So for job your focus is not the mba per say but what relevant work experience do u have in operational management or the area you want to focus in Thanks for the enlightenment... The work experience you are talking about, Is it the work experience from Nigeria before traveling? What about those kiddies who just graduated early 2019 with no work experience? Kindly elucidate this and other members of the house should kindly share their opinion.. Thanks |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Gavrelino123: 10:27am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Gavrelino123:
Thanks for the enlightenment... The work experience you are talking about, Is it the work experience from Nigeria before traveling? What about those kiddies who just graduated early 2019 with no work experience? Does it mean their chances are slim? Kindly elucidate this and other members of the house should kindly share their opinion.. Thanks |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 10:45am On Nov 15, 2019 |
hosey:
Asslicker.
Check the thread carefully and look for which person insulted first. Well. That is what is obtainable in life.
If you react back, they will be lamenting like cry babies. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by LagosismyHome(f): 11:51am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Gavrelino123:
Thanks for the enlightenment... The work experience you are talking about, Is it the work experience from Nigeria before traveling? What about those kiddies who just graduated early 2019 with no work experience? Kindly elucidate this and other members of the house should kindly share their opinion.. Thanks There are some entry level jobs that cater for those groups or graduate entry level job but they are not many and competitive so some do get in. Also these British people do have work experience however relevant or irrelevant . Some start working part time before Uni, or take gap year in Uni to gain work experience . For those who have no work experience , despite they dont need work visa they do struggle to get jobs as well . Nigerian work experience can work as well, the person just need to know how to articulate and sell it well |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 12:16pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
Miele:
I was just coming to write this. PSW does not automatically guarantee anyone a job. It’s all based on luck and experience.
I finished my degree this summer and I got two job offers from two big 4 firms. This was only within the space of 4 months that was left on my visa after graduation. One rescinded their offer because they couldn’t sponsor my visa - stupid HR thought the quota system applied to me but it didn’t cause I was switching from Tier 4. The other one came back to me with a start date and arrangements to start making my tier 2 application but I was already out of the country.
Even with the PSW, some companies/firms will still be reluctant in employing a candidate that would require sponsorship.
Experience, networking, making connections and applying for a thousands jobs a day will get you somewhere than banking on PSW but obviously with the PSW, you’ve got more time to send in applications.
Fact! But many will see this as a discouragement or call me emery of progress. 3 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Nobody: 1:03pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
LaaJiblik:
Kindly look at the bolded statement. I will not allow people to be misled by you.
Dear prospective applicant: Even if you have a 5 year post-study visa, getting a qualifying tier-2 visa is not automatic. Again, I will suggest. Choose your course wisely. Choose your university wisely.
There are Shit courses and there are Shit Universities too. Be strategic in your thinking. If your main aim is to use student visa to port from Buhari’s Naija. And you don’t want to return to this forum in some years time to curse the UK for pushing you out of their country after study, then please. Choose your course wisely. Choose your university wisely. If you are a professional at home, have the relevant certifications. Look up the potential UK job roles in your field. See the requirements and certifications needed. See if you can get those certifications. Before you go to the UK for studies.
Do NOT be deceived by anyone who tells you that Tier-2 after 2 year PSW visa is a sure banker. Na lie. You can get a Tier-2 after a 9-month MSc. You can fail to get a tier-2 after a 2 year MSc (with placement) + a 2 year post study visa. The crux of the matter is: Your course. & Your relevant experience. And how do we know which of these good schools we should choose? 1 Like |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Zoey1: 1:31pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
@ hosey : When you swing lowest we go very high. Its confirmed you cant communicate without insulting anyone. Let me not say more. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 1:36pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
Simran94:
And how do we know which of these good schools we should choose? Use the university/course ranking. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by atewogboye001(m): 2:13pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
frapzkid:
Hi house been going thru this thread since page 290 . I must say I like how committed @hosey is in advising people to grab the 2 years post study Visa. I studied in the UK (Middlesex) graduated 2018 but was sent packing immediately I felt so angry . I swore I would never consider UK as an option for masters or even settling. Fast forward to September 2019, when Boris Johnson announced the post study Visa. On hearing the news, I first felt angry at why that strict lady called Theresa May was the prime minister at my time because I knew she did not really speak for all of the British when she said student immigrants should go home immediately after study. I know this for a fact because I did internship in a company where one of the staff told me they would love to employ international graduate trainees prior to how they did in the past to retain trainees that are successful and show hard work in the training program then would sponsor the successful trainees for tier 2 Visa. But sadly that facility was taken from them because they can not possibly sponsor the total amount of international graduate trainees they want (companies pay an individual fee to the government for each international student they give CoS and they usually have a limit they can give out), so they look for the British or EU graduates to fill those positions whom they feel are not as hardworking, committed and determined as other international graduates.
So from someone that studied in the UK and was able to communicate with some in the professional setting, I can assure you that with the two year post study visa given, There would be lot of options open for international graduates who are smart . I would share them
Option 1 TIER 2 VISA After studies, students would have 2 years plus the 4 months on their previous study Visa to find a job. This time is enough time to find a job that can offer them a Tier 2 Visa. During my time, I got like 4 offers from different companies in just 3 months , 3 could not sponsor my Tier 2, but one could but the time was so limited to process it (8 days before my Visa expires) . Imagine the amount of time international graduates would not have at their disposal . Do not believe some who say getting a tier 2 job is not assured after study. As long as you play your cards right you will surely get one . In fact it is more easier to see a skilled graduate job in the UK than US . This is because most US jobs demand for experience and previous projects, but unlike the US in order to increase your chances of getting a Tier 2 job in the UK in the time period of your post study Visa., try to 1. Try to get a first class or Distinction in your degree, this would put you ahead of graduates below your classification and you will be 80% likely to get a tier 2 job before your 2 years post study runs out. Unlike Nigeria , it is quite easier and more straight forward to get a first class in Bsc or Distinction in masters
2. Do a course that is needed more in the UK. Check for courses that are needed when applying . Courses that are Computer or IT related are now at the top of the list (at least 75% likely to get a job). Other courses like Nursing, Engineering and Science.Kindly avoid courses that are not either important to the UK economy, makes you your own boss or are in high supply like Interior Design, Arts and Dance.
3. If possible try to do a PhD. Though this may not be necessary but doing a PhD in a course that is needed would surely put on the top of favoured ones by employers in the UK. But like I said before , this would not be necessary if you follow 1 and 2.
OPTION 2 WORK EXPERIENCE As a international graduate, you will surely get work experience in your 2 years post study period which would be valued by employers in Nigeria if you eventually go back home. This experience would put you above others based in Nigeria. With a masters degree and at least 2 year British work experience, you will be able to apply EASILY for a managerial job.
OPTION 3 MARRIAGE Marriage is another way to settle down in the UK, but sadly most international graduates who wishes to use this route have not found it easy to find a person in just 3 months as you do not expect them to make this their priority during study whether fake or real marriage. But with 2 year post study Visa, international graduates who wishes to use this route can be able to search without haste for someone to marry (someone of their own taste) and can even start processing their marriage Visa before their post study Visa runs out .
OPTION 4 OPPORTUNITY TO MIGRATE TO OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES
When I was in the UK, the person I stayed with was on tier 2 Visa, but his wife was finding it hard to get a visa to meet him (because of some complex issues) . So he applied for an Express entry to Canada for him and his family. I must say, it was much easier for him to get the Canadian Visa than his contemporaries in Nigeria because his points were off the roof . This is due to the facts that he 1. Had a UK masters in an IT field 2 . Had just 2 years work experience in UK.
In addition, the Canadian Express entry has a cap in each country, applicants from Nigeria would find it harder because many would be applying unlike applicants from developed countries like UK . Since the Canada Express entry was introduced to increase immigration of skilled labour, imagine how much value would be added to an application from a skilled worker based in a developed country like UK.
In conclusion this newly announced 2 years post study will make UK a preferred choice of study . Personally I still feel Canada is better than the UK for student path to settlement, but I think UK and US are now on the same playing field and since is easier to get a UK study Visa than in the US, I would advise many to choose the UK over US by 2020. this is very resourceful, full of information thank you so much 2 Likes |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by atewogboye001(m): 2:21pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
Hello guys, so I got my unconditional offer last week Wednesday but I haven't made the payment yet I plan on paying everything next week Wednesday. However I have my maintenance deposited 2weeks ago, am I on track? |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by Tobexin(m): 3:17pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
justwise:
Use the university/course ranking. bro but sometimes those rankings are not true reflections of the best schools in UK because most Universities do manipulate their ways to the top bends. Just saying based on discussion I had with a tutor in one of the Universities, contrary opinions to this is allowed. |
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 3 by justwise(m): 3:40pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
Tobexin: bro but sometimes those rankings are not true reflections of the best schools in UK because most Universities do manipulate their ways to the top bends. Just saying based on discussion I had with a tutor in one of the Universities, contrary opinions to this is allowed. I rather not believe that, if universities can successfully manipulate the ranking then you would have seen a significant shift in ranking by many universities. Ranking points comes in many ways..including feedback from graduates from that university, published research, facilities, profile of lecturers/professors, number of graduates from each university that was able to get a graduate job..etc |
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