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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:56pm On Nov 14, 2019
ojeysky:


Please am still hoping someone will advice me on this. I really need to know if 28.2 is appropriate for bulk or whether I should adjust to about 28.8 since that is the info on the battery says but I like to hear from experienced folks here. Do you guys run your battery at such a high bulk level?

The default setting I have on a MPPT connected to a gel battery is 14.4 bulk and 13.8 float. I have swapped about two batteries with the SCC not really minding the specs on the battery and they have both done fine. Although I later realize that the specs sheet of the batteries too indicated 14.3 and 13.8, so I'd say I was lucky.

So if your battery specifies 14.4 as bulk, then I think you should follow that. But I'd still say you should also wait for the opinion of others.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olatade(m): 8:25pm On Nov 14, 2019
ceaser:


I assume your 12v panels are 150watts each meaning you likely have 4 of it. Simply connect the 12v panels in series to make 24volts and then in parallel to make a 2s2p configuration. You end up having 24v 300 watts setup rather than the 12v 600 watts you had before.


Thank you so much for the info. I appreciate sir
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 8:29pm On Nov 14, 2019
ojeysky:


Please am still hoping someone will advice me on this. I really need to know if 28.2 is appropriate for bulk or whether I should adjust to about 28.8 since that is the info on the battery says but I like to hear from experienced folks here. Do you guys run your battery at such a high bulk level?

go with what the info on the battery says. cycle and standby voltages equating to bulk and float voltages

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 10:17pm On Nov 14, 2019
ojeysky:


Please am still hoping someone will advice me on this. I really need to know if 28.2 is appropriate for bulk or whether I should adjust to about 28.8 since that is the info on the battery says but I like to hear from experienced folks here. Do you guys run your battery at such a high bulk level?

Kindly snap the battery data and post... Cheers
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 2:56am On Nov 15, 2019
dataking:


Buy Qasa dc fans on Jumia. There is a 10w fan for 10,500 or you buy the Qasa Yoga fan.

Please give the link to this 10k stuff o. The link to a different product that I used to see on Konga seems to be sold out. And when I searched Jumia after seeing your post, the only qasa product link that came up is for 17k.

Abeg give your link for the 10k thingy.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 2:57am On Nov 15, 2019
earthrealm:


THANKS, i saw this one, rechargeable standing fan rated power is 15w....should be good

https://www./uka-16-3pp-blades-rechargeable-standing-fan-lf-ka1626-43665076.html

Bro this link is not opening. I get error response. Is it still a valid link?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 3:22am On Nov 15, 2019
mcTrinity:


Kindly snap the battery data and post... Cheers

I did in the reference post earlier am re-attaching again though.

earthrealm:


go with what the info on the battery says. cycle and standby voltages equating to bulk and float voltages

Noted with thanks

ceaser:


The default setting I have on a MPPT connected to a gel battery is 14.4 bulk and 13.8 float. I have swapped about two batteries with the SCC not really minding the specs on the battery and they have both done fine. Although I later realize that the specs sheet of the batteries too indicated 14.3 and 13.8, so I'd say I was lucky.

So if your battery specifies 14.4 as bulk, then I think you should follow that. But I'd still say you should also wait for the opinion of others.

Thanks for the comment

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 5:49am On Nov 15, 2019
ceaser:


Bro this link is not opening. I get error response. Is it still a valid link?

https://www./qasa-18-inches-acdc-standing-fan-qsf-18r-grey-32647148.html


seems the product is out of stock now/or they hv jacked up the price to 23k, meanwhile..see the qasa 10k fan here.... if the link is broken by nairaland bot, add j-u-m-i-a.com.ng after www.
without the spaces.
the nairaland bot automatically deletes the website name grin grin

EDIT: ITS AVAILABLE NOW ON FLASH SALE 8900 : https://www.j-u-m-ia.com.ng/uka-16-3pp-blades-rechargeable-standing-fan-lf-ka1628-22194275.html

REMOVE THE HYPEPHEN BTW J-U-M

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:27am On Nov 15, 2019
jidobaba:
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33019693095.html?spm=a2g0n.wishlist-amp.item.33019693095&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=824amp-oG3TuPQapDTUkiJ37w1g0Q1573729297311

Guys, what do you think about this 12v charger, any good? The plan is to use it with a battery bank of 2 x 12v180aH

I noticed that this stuff comes too expensive for the functionality when I bumped into it on AliExpress. But I think you'd enjoy the versatility if you can afford it. The charging algorithm is 3 stage. It helps you to output any charging voltages and charging current you desire and that will be a good thing to have for DIY stuffs.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jidobaba(m): 7:02am On Nov 15, 2019
ceaser:


I noticed that this stuff comes too expensive for the functionality when I bumped into it on AliExpress. But I think you'd enjoy the versatility if you can afford it. The charging algorithm is 3 stage. It helps you to output any charging voltages and charging current you desire and that will be a good thing to have for DIY stuffs.
I haven't seen any other chargers that can deliver the max current it does at that price point. Question now is, how important is current to the battery charging process?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 7:09am On Nov 15, 2019
jidobaba:
I haven't seen any other chargers that can deliver the max current it does at that price point. Question now is, how important is current to the battery charging process?

even the adjustable charging voltage is quite useful.....
for a budget install, it would be superb, imagine buying a non harging 4kw inverter for less than 30k, and pairing it with this smart charger. its going to be good and cheap, cos the non charging inverters usually hv low idle consumption.

would hunt for cheaper variants of this charger grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Lanjonath(m): 6:53pm On Nov 15, 2019
earthrealm:


even the adjustable charging voltage is quite useful.....
for a budget install, it would be superb, imagine buying a non harging 4kw inverter for less than 30k, and pairing it with this smart charger. its going to be good and cheap, cos the non charging inverters usually hv low idle consumption.

would hunt for cheaper variants of this charger grin

This thing you mentioned is key, discovered it about a month ago and it has significantly boosted my battery performance. Non-charging inverters are the best, imagine an inverter with a charger board consuming 5A/h when idle, that's just ludacris.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 7:17pm On Nov 15, 2019
Lanjonath:


This thing you mentioned is key, discovered it about a month ago and it has significant boosted my battery performance. Non-charging inverters are the best, imagine a ln inverter with a charger board consuming 5A/h, that's just ludacris.

Is that you or autocorrect? cheesy

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Lanjonath(m): 7:18pm On Nov 15, 2019
eleojo23:


Is that you or autocorrect? cheesy

Both of us working in unison
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 7:22pm On Nov 15, 2019
Lanjonath:

Both of us working in unison
cheesy
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by queenfav(f): 7:25pm On Nov 15, 2019
Good day, we just installed a solar system in our house to power our electric fence 24/7.So far, we haven't had light for 3 days. 3 pcs of 150w mono solar panels were installed to charge our (one pcs) 200ah battery. Since it was installed, we haven't had light. When the sun charges it, it shows all the battery bars complete on the charge controller, but once I turn on the inverter it shows that only three bars of batteery is available for use.This has been the case for 3 days now that I have been charging it with just solar, since we haven't had light. It has never charged full even with good sun for most of the day.
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With not all our connected appliances loaded, the inverter alarm starts beeping batteery low after 4 hours of use, whereas the charge controller will still be at two bars. My husband says his colleagues inverter battery charges with solar under 4 hours, and it's d same capacity as ours. Pls what do u guys think, cos I am planning to call the installer for remedy.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mcTrinity(m): 7:26pm On Nov 15, 2019
ojeysky:


I did in the reference post earlier am re-attaching again though.


OK...

Just as have been advised, kindly follow the data.

Float voltage is between 13.5-13.8V, so you can set the float voltage at 13.7V and Absorb at 14.4V

Cheers
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 8:07pm On Nov 15, 2019
Queen,

It depends on what you are connecting. One battery is not going to perform wonder and with light and TV, depending on the size and its power consumption, you are already enjoying your money's worth with 4 hours of backup. May be u should add one more battery.

queenfav:
Good day, we just installed a solar system in our house to power our electric fence 24/7.So far, we haven't had light for 3 days. 3 pcs of 150w mono solar panels were installed to charge our (one pcs) 200ah battery. Since it was installed, we haven't had light. When the sun charges it, it shows all the battery bars complete on the charge controller, but once I turn on the inverter it shows that only three bars of batteery is available for use.This has been the case for 3 days now that I have been charging it with just solar, since we haven't had light. It has never charged full even with good sun for most of the day.
.
.
.
With not all our connected appliances loaded, the inverter alarm starts beeping batteery low after 4 hours of use, whereas the charge controller will still be at two bars. My husband says his colleagues inverter battery charges with solar under 4 hours, and it's d same capacity as ours. Pls what do u guys think, cos I am planning to call the installer for remedy.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Lanjonath(m): 8:07pm On Nov 15, 2019
What and what is your system powering? Because just one battery won't last you very long especially with your electric fence on it. And during the day, do you power down the inverter?
queenfav:
Good day, we just installed a solar system in our house to power our electric fence 24/7.So far, we haven't had light for 3 days. 3 pcs of 150w mono solar panels were installed to charge our (one pcs) 200ah battery. Since it was installed, we haven't had light. When the sun charges it, it shows all the battery bars complete on the charge controller, but once I turn on the inverter it shows that only three bars of batteery is available for use.This has been the case for 3 days now that I have been charging it with just solar, since we haven't had light. It has never charged full even with good sun for most of the day.
.
.
.
With not all our connected appliances loaded, the inverter alarm starts beeping batteery low after 4 hours of use, whereas the charge controller will still be at two bars. My husband says his colleagues inverter battery charges with solar under 4 hours, and it's d same capacity as ours. Pls what do u guys think, cos I am planning to call the installer for remedy.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 9:10pm On Nov 15, 2019
queenfav:
Good day, we just installed a solar system in our house to power our electric fence 24/7.So far, we haven't had light for 3 days. 3 pcs of 150w mono solar panels were installed to charge our (one pcs) 200ah battery. Since it was installed, we haven't had light. When the sun charges it, it shows all the battery bars complete on the charge controller, but once I turn on the inverter it shows that only three bars of batteery is available for use.This has been the case for 3 days now that I have been charging it with just solar, since we haven't had light. It has never charged full even with good sun for most of the day.
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With not all our connected appliances loaded, the inverter alarm starts beeping batteery low after 4 hours of use, whereas the charge controller will still be at two bars. My husband says his colleagues inverter battery charges with solar under 4 hours, and it's d same capacity as ours. Pls what do u guys think, cos I am planning to call the installer for remedy.

if its just only the electric fence that is connec ted to the inverter, then its sufficient, electric fence doesnt consume much energy shaa.
the problem is either your battery isnt healthy, or your panels & charge controller isnt setup properly.
if you are a bit handy & techy, i would suggest putting a 200watt on the inverter..on a sunny day.....while you observe the output of your charge controller..... i hope your charge controller shows instantenous harvest..

if all these is sounding like german to you, then u berra call the ur husbands friends installer to qaqc ur setup
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by queenfav(f): 6:26am On Nov 16, 2019
Thanks to timileyin1234, earthrealm, lanjonath and adrusa. My issue isn't the hours am getting, cos it's just one battery. My issue is the fact that it has never charged full with solar panels. My husband is seeing buying the panels as a waste of money, because with heavy sun and all, it doesn't charge full. Pls note also that the past two days, I turned off the inverter to allow it charge with solar, still it doesn't exceed 3 bars when I put on the inverter at night. Will definitely call the installer, cos it is clear that either the charge controller or d panels are ineffective.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 8:01am On Nov 16, 2019
Useless bot that keeps hiding my post and banning for 24hrs.

Don't know what to type and what not to type to avoid that sanction.

Nonsense and bobrisky.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 8:12am On Nov 16, 2019
earthrealm:


https://www./qasa-18-inches-acdc-standing-fan-qsf-18r-grey-32647148.html


seems the product is out of stock now/or they hv jacked up the price to 23k, meanwhile..see the qasa 10k fan here.... if the link is broken by nairaland bot, add j-u-m-i-a.com.ng after www.
without the spaces.
the nairaland bot automatically deletes the website name grin grin

EDIT: ITS AVAILABLE NOW ON FLASH SALE 8900 : https://www.j-u-m-ia.com.ng/uka-16-3pp-blades-rechargeable-standing-fan-lf-ka1628-22194275.html

REMOVE THE HYPEPHEN BTW J-U-M

It's sold out. I assume it was moppednup by those that now resell at that 23k. Na wa o.

I though I could just hook up to it a laptop power bank that works with replaceable 6pcs unprotected 18650s and charges well on 18v 50 watts max solar panel or a direct laptop charger plugged to it.

I once used that on those solar fan with those useless 12v 4.5ah lead acid batteries. It ran 8 full hours at max speed on that power bank. And those fans usually have 15 watts motor. I can imagine the performance with just 10 watts fan.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 8:29am On Nov 16, 2019
queenfav:
Good day, we just installed a solar system in our house to power our electric fence 24/7.So far, we haven't had light for 3 days. 3 pcs of 150w mono solar panels were installed to charge our (one pcs) 200ah battery. Since it was installed, we haven't had light. When the sun charges it, it shows all the battery bars complete on the charge controller, but once I turn on the inverter it shows that only three bars of batteery is available for use.This has been the case for 3 days now that I have been charging it with just solar, since we haven't had light. It has never charged full even with good sun for most of the day.
.
.
.
With not all our connected appliances loaded, the inverter alarm starts beeping batteery low after 4 hours of use, whereas the charge controller will still be at two bars. My husband says his colleagues inverter battery charges with solar under 4 hours, and it's d same capacity as ours. Pls what do u guys think, cos I am planning to call the installer for remedy.

Why don't you just have a standalone solar set up for your electric fence? You can go the DC direct way or the inverter way depending on the type of electric fence you have. And with either options I doubt if you're gonna need anything more that a 75ah battery to run the night before solar recharge at dawn. You may not require more than one piece 150 watts solar panel with that set up. That way, you'd have less headache with powering your home security apparatus while still giving you less headache about nursing the solar setup to your home appliances.

I installed a standalone setup for a 200 watts motor AC gate opener.

1000 watts surge pure sine wave inverter
28 amps AGM battery
10 amps PWM SCC
2 pcs 50 watts solar panel connect d in parallel.

Gate opener works for unlimited runs during daytime as long as their is some insolation. The battery is able to handle the 2 watts quiescent power of the opener + 9 watts quiescent of the inverter overnight that the battery still remains at 12.5 volt by morning, enough for 5 open-close cycles of the gate before the sun comes up again.

Your electric fence will require much less.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olaolu11(m): 8:35am On Nov 16, 2019
[quote author=adrusa post=84060753]Queen,

It depends on what you are connecting. One battery is not going to perform wonder and with light and TV, depending on the size and its power consumption, you are already enjoying your money's worth with 4 hours of backup. May be u should add one more battery.








Add one more battery? Will 450watts panel charge two 200ah battery given the sun hours available? Especially she is saying the battery seems not to be fully charged

I guess the culprit could be the inexperience if the installer, low quality battery or panel, or wrong settings. I DIYed my solar setup and had challenges until I got the settings of the cc right. With 600watts panels and 200ah battery, I was still using gen and got frustrated. I even bought an mppt cc thinking it was the problem. But when I got the pwm cc settings right eventually, my gen has been idle and I have light 24 hrs for TV, fan etc. Even the mppt cc is in storage.

Call back your installer and ask questions. And I would suggest you also read up. But for my resilience, I would have given up like your husband. Solar is good ma.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by queenfav(f): 9:00am On Nov 16, 2019
ceaser:


Why don't you just have a standalone solar set up for your electric fence? You can go the DC direct way or the inverter way depending on the type of electric fence you have. And with either options I doubt if you're gonna need anything more that a 75ah battery to run the night before solar recharge at dawn. You may not require more than one piece 150 watts solar panel with that set up. That way, you'd have less headache with powering your home security apparatus while still giving you less headache about nursing the solar setup to your home appliances.

I installed a standalone setup for a 200 watts motor AC gate opener.

1000 watts surge pure sine wave inverter
28 amps AGM battery
10 amps PWM SCC
2 pcs 50 watts solar panel connect d in parallel.

Gate opener works for unlimited runs during daytime as long as their is some insolation. The battery is able to handle the 2 watts quiescent power of the opener + 9 watts quiescent of the inverter overnight that the battery still remains at 12.5 volt by morning, enough for 5 open-close cycles of the gate before the sun comes up again.

Your electric fence will require much less.
the fence requires less than that to charge.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by harizonal123(m): 9:10am On Nov 16, 2019
ceaser:


It's sold out. I assume it was moppednup by those that now resell at that 23k. Na wa o.

I though I could just hook up to it a laptop power bank that works with replaceable 6pcs unprotected 18650s and charges well on 18v 50 watts max solar panel or a direct laptop charger plugged to it.

I once used that on those solar fan with those useless 12v 4.5ah lead acid batteries. It ran 8 full hours at max speed on that power bank. And those fans usually have 15 watts motor. I can imagine the performance with just 10 watts fan.

That fan is 19.2watt to be precise not 10w

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 10:27am On Nov 16, 2019
ceaser:


It's sold out. I assume it was moppednup by those that now resell at that 23k. Na wa o.

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Its still available..both the UKA &Qasa fans..
Seems i would buy both now and see
Check for dabamat seller.

Edit: just bought both fans now

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by queenfav(f): 11:36am On Nov 16, 2019
[quote author=olaolu11 post=84071294][/quote]Thanks a lot, u just gave me a fresh insight. My husband was saying it. The battery is Mpower, so far it holds up pretty well, I don't think that's the issue. I have asked the installer about the installation, he says even his newest apprentice won't fix solar panels wrongly, let alone him. It's left to come check the PWM charge controller setting. He was saying he has fixed for so many people, and they don't have issues with the PWM charge controller. Anwyays i have told him to come tomoro to go over the whole set up, especially the solar panels and charge controller. My husband is already thinking if we need to buy mppt. I won't want us to waste that money on it if we can use the PWM. The whole thing is just frustrating to me, hubby is already fed up, feeling like we wasted money on the solar inverter installation.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by queenfav(f): 12:24pm On Nov 16, 2019
Please, I need contact of a very skilled and honest solar installation technician that's based in PH. I need a second opinion on what the person who installed my solar did.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 1:20pm On Nov 16, 2019
queenfav:
Please, I need contact of a very skilled and honest solar installation technician that's based in PH. I need a second opinion on what the person who installed my solar did.

Are you in the woji /transamadi axis?.
Could refer you to someone

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