kikuyu1:


You're defaulting to the Naijjan mentality repeating poo 1000x when its been DEBUNKED!
Fyi, Kibera last count had max 250K.

cossano:
While i was away, kenyans on nairaland started fighting Ghana!!!!!

Stormtrooper11:
You kenyans never told me nairobi was this cute

gallivant:


Nigerians don't travel, they get trafficked as cheap labour. That's the reality.

Austine1212:



Half of the malls in Ghana owned by SA.,with south african stores as premier shops.

Ghana does not have capability to have a mall with 1000 stores, it is not economically viable as ghana does not have a lot of middle income earners.

Jonraid:
Kenya

Redhill past Limuru Road coming up nicely!

rvp20182:
16 times IMF has bailed out Ghana

kikuyu1:


You're defaulting to the Naijjan mentality repeating poo 1000x when its been DEBUNKED!
Fyi, Kibera last count had max 250K.

Jonraid:
The catterpilla creating more and more obstacles!

If you don't get mud,then it's not worth it!

Troy404:
the guy has refused to think and has become a Nigerian.

mtisTheQubit:

Even south Africa now understands that..

vaxx2:
You can called it lies You can only argue your goverment is doing well to reduce it since it is more than 6 years report...There is bigger research authority that established the fact

* African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC). 2014. Population and Health Dynamics in Nairobi’s Informal Settlements: Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey. (NCSS) 2012. Nairobi: APHRC"".

.i am not hating bro..i am just learning . if there is any good about kenya that I so much admire, it is your athletic prowess..

samorobo:


Shut up you guys have also turned slaves in Libya all in your quest to escape Europe...I remember when I showed kikuyu, he couldn't believe his eyes...the least he could do was run some stewpid comparism like you guys always...


Hahaha comparism on Libyan slave....foolish kiberas

NairobiWalker:


Stop forcing yourself to believe what you want to believe. Here is the 2019 census population of Kibera. Remember only part of Kibera is a slum thus of the 185,000[b], [b]probably less than 120,000 [/b]live i[/b]n the slum. I would have attached the whole pdf file but it can't upload on this forum.

Stormtrooper11:
You kenyans never told me nairobi was this cute

vaxx2:
It is you guys who needs to think.... I have submitted an authority accepting it. but unneccasry ego to correction will not let you.


""Kibera Facts & Information

There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world.

Land Ownership
The Government owns all the land. 10% of people are shack owners and many of these people own many other shacks and let them out to tenants. The remaining 90% of residents are tenants with no rights.

Housing
The average size of shack in this area is 12ft x 12ft built with mud walls, a corrugated tin roof with a dirt or concrete floor. The cost is about KES 700 per Month (£6). These shacks often house up to 8 or more with many sleeping on the floor.

The population
The original settlers were the Nubian people from the Kenyan/Sudanese border – they now occupy about 15% of Kibera, are mostly Muslim and are also mostly shack owners. The other shack owners are mostly Kikuyu (the majority tribe in Nairobi) – although in most cases they do not live there but are absentee landlords. The majority of the tenants are Luo, Luhya and some Kamba – these people are from the west of Kenya. There are many tensions in Kibera, particularly tribal tensions between the Luo & Kikuyu, but also between landlord and tenant and those with and without jobs.

Electricity
Only about 20% of Kibera has electricity. UN-Habitat is in the process of providing it to some parts of Kibera – this will include street lighting, security lighting and connection to shacks (this costs KES 900 per shack, which in most cases is not affordable).

Water
Until recently Kibera had no water and it had to be collected from the Nairobi dam. The dam water is not clean and causes typhoid and cholera. Now there are two mains water pipes into Kibera, one from the municipal council and one from the World Bank. Residents collect water at KES 3 per 20 litres.

Sewage
In most of Kibera there are no toilet facilities. One latrine (hole in the ground) is shared by up to 50 shacks. Once full, young boys are employed to empty the latrine and they take the contents to the river. UN-Habitat and a few other agencies are trying to help and improve this situation but it is painfully slow.

Medical facilities and HIV/AIDS Clinics
In Kibera there are no government clinics or hospitals. The providers are the charitable organisations: AMREF, MSF, churches plus some others. They do a great job. All people are encouraged to have a free HIV test and if positive to take free generic ARV medicine.

Changaa
This is cheap alcoholic brew. It is widely available, very strong (over 50% alcohol) and made incorrectly, so is usually very high in Methanol. The cost is only KES 10 per glass and after a couple of glasses people become very drunk. With over 50% unemployment in Kibera many start drinking early in the morning leading to problems of violence, crime, rapes etc. Several charities are trying to help by showing the Changaa makers how to make the drink less dangerous.

Drugs
Cheap drugs and glue sniffing are an increasing problem. Initially taken to alleviate boredom but then people find themselves hooked. A big challenge to the charities!

Abortion
Due to many men still not using condoms and the availability of Changaa, many girls become pregnant, at any one time about 50% of 16 to 25 yr old girls are pregnant. Most of these pregnancies are unwanted, resulting in many cases of abortion. This can be very dangerous, particularly in such a poor area as Kibera. Many charities are working on this problem.

Unemployment
Kibera is near the industrial area of Nairobi where up to 50% of the available workforce are employed (usually in fairly unskilled jobs). However, there is still an unemployment rate of 50%. This is why the training and teaching of skills is very important.

Sport
Most young people in Kibera have nothing to do, obviously it is better for them to have the opportunity to take part in sport and several organisations are working on this.

Nairobi Slum Survey
The African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC) produced a report which provides many different statistics relating to the slums of Nairobi, including facts about Kibera. You can download the 212 page here"":

https://www.kibera.org.uk/Reports/Nairobi%20Slum%20Survey%202012.pdf


The report is not my own doings......

kikuyu1:


Leave my name out of your juvenile rants, I insist.

NairobiWalker:


Stop forcing yourself to believe what you want to believe. Here is the 2019 census population of Kibera. Remember only part of Kibera is a slum thus of the 185,000, probably less than 120,000 live in the slum (Areas like Upperhill, Woodley, Ayany, Mimosa, Olympic are part of Kibera yet are not slums). I would have attached the whole pdf file but it can't upload on this forum.

samorobo:


Wowwwww!!!!! I repeat this past few days has been an eye-opener...so 2.5 million Nairobi residents lived in slum.....you guys have no right to even speak here at all let alone mentioning cities....

I spit on your zoo.

Vaxx pls I need the link

68816419:
Still on Kano ...NORTHERN Nigeria)

vaxx2:
Probability is not a fact excuse me....

only you can believe that in your head..... unless you are saying Kenyans has done way to reduce the slummish level of kibera within multiple 6 years of the given data. not been in Kenya dosnt mean we don't have statistics to rely on.

Troy404:
not as cute as Lagos cbd

Austine1212:



Half of the malls in Ghana owned by SA.,with south african stores as premier shops.

Ghana does not have capability to have a mall with 1000 stores, it is not economically viable as ghana does not have a lot of middle income earners.

NairobiWalker:


So I'm giving you the actual official figures of a census and you are giving me data from blogs. Which of the two are facts? Furthermore, Kibera's population was 170,000 in the 2009 census and now it is 185,000 so what reduction are you talking about? More still, the slum area of Kibera reduced between 2009 and 2019 hence out of the 170,000 in 2009, more people were in the slum than in 2019's 185,000. Stop believing what you want to believe and stick to the facts.

vaxx2:
Half of the stalls are owned by white south africa and the money is repatriated back to new Zealand and many of their real origin.... Ghana middle income class is much in informal settings and it is getting bigger continuously ...

. what we actually don't have is the population. but continuous economy growth will change that effect when we were able to afford bigger GDP. which will translate into bigger GDP per capital. I actually want a moderate population not exceeding 45 to 50 million to do that. I want a slow growth tpnoir population when we reached there.


Go and read about Ghana international mall. it is not gonna be the biggest mall like the one in Casablanca morroco but it will definitely match many malls both in west and south Africa.



This is the 3d......

NairobiWalker:


So I'm giving you the actual official figures of a census and you are giving me data from blogs. Which of the two are facts? Furthermore, Kibera's population was 170,000 in the 2009 census and now it is 185,000 so what reduction are you talking about? More still, the slum area of Kibera reduced between 2009 and 2019 hence out of the 170,000 in 2009, more people were in the slum than in 2019's 185,000. Stop believing what you want to believe and stick to the facts.