Opiosko:

*Not All Pastors Are Fake!*
*Not All Pastors Depend On Tithes & Offerings To Survive!*
*Not All Pastors Place Price Tags On Counselling!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Into Ministry For Money!*
*Not All Men Of God Take Advantage Of Gullible People!*
*Not All Men Of God Stage Miracles!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Sexually Molest Women!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Proud!*
*Not All Prophets Seek Powers From The Devil!*
*Not All Shepherds Lack The Fear Of GOD!*
*Not All Apostles Are Repackaged Herbalists!*
*Not All Pastors Are Denominational Marketers!*
*Not All Pastors Seek Fame By All Means!*

*_GOD called those HE called. Those He called are aware He called them. Those HE did not call are equally aware GOD did not call them_ !!!*

tojahh:



Hahaha. I'm sorry sir but you're a joke! So pastors shouldn't work and earn a living?

Okay..
Okay...
Okay...
Who now pays the choir since they are in Gods vineyard? Hahahaha. So pastors are in for the benefits that comes from the church instead of shepherding the whole flock under their care?

Aaron was ordained by God, as a levite to man the temple and teach the word of God to the congregation and take from the offering because he is a LEVITE like Miriam and Ezekiel and their descendants. Abeg are today's pastors LEVITES? why are they keen on chopping our money?

Maybe all of us should be Pastors then.

izzou:


Can you show me where the Bible talked about Peter's life, and him feeding from the church?

You type so well and lengthy, yet you're either making little sense or you're misleading people.
How can you say a pastor is supposed to feed from the Church

In Acts, the people brought as they had and the items were distributed to the poor, and the Bible mentioned that "THEY LACKED NOTHING".

Every pastor should work and lead by example. He should be a servant to his congregation, and not the other way round. Stop encouraging laziness in the church

tojahh:


Oga.. With this plenty epistles you successfully wrote a bastardized nonsense! Where did Paul asked Pastors to feed from the church sir?

Day go break una go carry English and shallow logic dey sabotage Christianity. If a pastor asked to be paid monthly stipend yes I would pay after all candidates must have avail themselves for interview like it is done on a secular front.

Oh this is why I love Jehovah's Witnesses. Wetin concern them and offering or tithes or seed sowing?

izzou:


Aaron was a Levite, and like I said, the people as at that time, worshipped in the temple,so there were Levites then.

Again you dodged my question. When Jesus was alive, how were the disciples able to feed, since they were not working? These men had families, so how were they caring for them? Remember, they were not working in the temple

You don't know anything. You will quote Corinthians again and type Aaron. There is nowhere Jesus encourage shepherds to live on the proceeds of their members.

nineone:


There's nothing like FAKE pastor. All pastors are real and carry out their lies and deception differently

izzou:


Aaron was a Levite, and like I said, the people as at that time, worshipped in the temple,so there were Levites then.

Again you dodged my question. When Jesus was alive, how were the disciples able to feed, since they were not working? These men had families, so how were they caring for them? Remember, they were not working in the temple

You don't know anything. You will quote Corinthians again and type Aaron. There is nowhere Jesus encourage shepherds to live on the proceeds of their members.

alBHAGDADI:


Jesus and his disciples took money from the sheep following them. They lived of the gospel as Paul stated in Corinthians which you hate to admit. Read below to see how some women helped Jesus with their substance.

Luke 8:3
And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

Mark 15:41
(Who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.


How are the above verses different from what Paul said Pastors are ordained to do? Jesus did it and he ordained his pastors to do the same as seen below.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Why not read from verse 1, you lying coward?

Jesus was with his disciples, but they ministered unto HIM out of their substance. What part says they ministered to the twelve? The women were healed and showed appreciation to Jesus... Just Jesus

I know you're a pastor, who sleeps at home and wait for offerings on Sunday. Your judgement will be worse than that of Judas

Repent, work, and help the poor ones in your congregation

mamatwiny:


The disciples had a purse that was managed by Judas. How did they get money in the purse? I believe ppl supported the gospel financially

alBHAGDADI:


Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing .

OyinO:
The Bible is full of parabolic illustrations, allegories, fables and superstitious myths. The Sun of God is the Light of the World. But when Sun becomes Son, the Sun is personified as Son of God. The Sun/Son that shines in darkness. The Sun sinks into it's lowest Zenith in Winter Solstice - 22nd, 23rd and 24th and start to rise again on the 25th of December. CHRISTMAS DAY! Rebirth of the Sun! Then Santa Claus (Satan Claus) appears. This happens in the temperate and Arctic regions of earth plane. The Rebirth of the Sun after its 3 DAYS DEATH is called the Resurrection of the Sun (now Son) of God. It's all about SUN WORSHIP. What is Sun Day?? There's no Sun day in the Buybull until new testament of imperial editing. Behind the head if the Christos, there's always a yellow Sun. And at Spring time, THE SUN RISES in Easter. Yet the pale (oyinbo) man with long hair is busy BLOCKING THE SUN from reaching the Creation of the Universe. Yet pale people cannot withstand the Sun. What an irony? For they run into hiding like zombies once the Sun start rising. It's the BLACK MAN WHO RISES WUTH THE SUN THROUGH THE POWER OF MELANIN. Your Religion is Pagan mythology modified from Greco-Roman versions of stolen African, Egyptian and Babylonian Sun Worship Systems. Christianity is Fake! Has nothing to deliver except giving vain hope to the oppressed and deprived masses. It's paganism used to replace pure African metaphysical spirituality at the coming of European invaders of brutal COLONIALISM. Today, ad it was in the beginning, it's nothing but BUSINESS ORGANISATIONS sapping the dumb innocent sufferers while giving them vain hope in a nonexistent afterlife. Just to make them docile enough for rulers and leaders to keep them poor and hungry. It was started in ROME, from where it spread to Africa and the Americas through colonial imperialism. Nuff said!

mamatwiny:


The disciples had a purse that was managed by Judas. How did they get money in the purse? I believe ppl supported the gospel financially

izzou:


Why not read from verse 1, you lying coward?

Jesus was with his disciples, but they ministered unto HIM out of their substance. What part says they ministered to the twelve? The women were healed and showed appreciation to Jesus... Just Jesus

I know you're a pastor, who sleeps at home and wait for offerings on Sunday. Your judgement will be worse than that of Judas

Repent, work, and help the poor ones in your congregation

alBHAGDADI:



I just showed you were Paul stated that the disciples can live of the gospel.

You also saw where Jesus was given money by the sheep. So what's your stupid point?

I'm not a pastor. I only defend the word of God.

alBHAGDADI:



I just showed you were Paul stated that the disciples can live of the gospel.

You also saw where Jesus was given money by the sheep. So what's your stupid point?

I'm not a pastor. I only defend the word of God.

You're defending your hungry pastor

The pastor in my zonal quarters works. He pays his tithes, offerings and any contribution for the propagation of the gospel. He takes care of his family also. And he makes enough time for his duties in church

He leads by example.Tell your pastor to learn from mine.

Stop being lazy and work. You won't die if you don't live off people's proceeds

izzou:


Of course

And is there any part where Jesus said the pastor, or Peter should live off it?

Paul survived with making tents. Why was he shortchanged then? Or maybe Paul wasnt aware of this part of the gospel

izzou:


You're defending your hungry pastor

The pastor in my zonal quarters works. He pays his tithes, offerings and any contribution for the propagation of the gospel. He takes care of his family also. And he makes enough time for his duties in church

He leads by example.Tell your pastor to learn from mine.

Stop being lazy and work. You won't die if you don't live off people's proceeds

oldtruth:


Jesus was given money by the sheep? Are you in your right senses?

alBHAGDADI:


You are of the kind I spoke of - always rushing to slam pastors without having full knowledge of the Bible.

I showed you were Jesus was angry at Peter for going back to his profession of fishing, yet you ask this question about Peter? Peter was a Bishop of a Church and had every right to feed of the Church as stated by Paul who revealed that such was also the case in the temple.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Just shut up and quit acting like you know. Who is encouraging laziness in the Church if not you? Your kind are the type that want to see the house of God crumble with no shepherd. You want the pastor to be somewhere else hustling while the sheep starve of the word of God.

God ordained his priests in the Old Testament to feed of the temple. Apostle Paul also confirmed that same thing applies today in the church. But you are here puffed up with your own understanding.

Now, to answer your question about Peter. Nowhere is it written that he engaged in any job after Jesus stopped him from his fishing activities. Or can you point out one job Peter did since then? No you can't. But it is written that Peter preached the gospel and pastored a church. So, clearly, Peter didn't do any job asides being a pastor, or a Fisher of men which Jesus called him to do.

alBHAGDADI:


Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

alBHAGDADI:


Your pastor works?

No wonder you lack the knowledge of the Bible. The time he's supposed to dedicate to studying so as to feed you the word of God, he's using it to hustle.

alBHAGDADI:


Your pastor works?

No wonder you lack the knowledge of the Bible. The time he's supposed to dedicate to studying so as to feed you the word of God, he's using it to hustle.

Yes, my pastor will hustle for his family, so tomorrow if he dies, they will have something to live on

Would you like me to open a thread on nairaland, so we can contribute for your pastor weekly?

Just look at how you're embarrassing yourself. Encouraging laziness in God's house

Tueh