khalling2008:

Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean:

Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."

So according to your logic if a lady is defined by a man it means men are filthy and dirty. But every normal person knows what being defiled means. But you choose to play ignorant and ignore basic English comprehension and choose to give it your own meaning.
The meaning clearly shows the people are sexually pure.

The second part you quoted are ceremonial laws given to the Israelites after they left Egypt. That was the old Testament, Jesus brought the new Testament. Christians follow Jesus Christ. The old Testament laws were are shadow of what Jesus came to actualize.

Like I said before try again, this time harder.

We all know what Mohammed thinks of women and how he likes his girls and how he likes them with almost see thru skin and hairless legs.

It's a relief to know that after reducing women to the status of animals whose presence can nullify prayers, muhamad allowed them to inherit property.

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Maybe he was trying to protect women from men who take advantage of their natural deficiency of intelligence

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Or maybe he just wanted them to enjoy life a little bit before they end up in their final destination:


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fortran12:
In Sharia law, a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's and also Muhammad tells a woman that she cannot return to her first husband until she has sexual relations with another man.
The prophet also said that the majority of the inhabitants of Hell are women. When asked why, he said it was because they are deficient in intelligence and religion, and because they are ungrateful to their husbands.

So much for women in Islam!

khalling2008:

I will not waste my time to explain those verses and hadith because you are here to criticise, so b4 you do that let me remind you what is in your book too,

Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim):

Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women , for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb.

fortran12:


I will add the references - The prophet also said that the majority of the inhabitants of Hell are women. When asked why, he said it was because they are deficient in intelligence and religion, and because they are ungrateful to their husbands.-- Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301

Muhammad tells a woman that she cannot return to her first husband until she has sexual relations with another man. - Quran 2:230

a woman's testimony is worth half of a man's -- Quran 2:282

Now there you have it

Qur'an chapter 2 to 227 to 230 explain:

227. And if they decide upon divorce, then Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

228. And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allâh has created in their wombs, if they believe in Allâh and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

229. The divorce is twice, after that, either you retain her on reasonable terms or release her with kindness. And it is not lawful for you (men) to take back (from your wives) any of your Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) which you have given them, except when both parties fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allâh (e.g. to deal with each other on a fair basis). Then if you fear that they would not be able to keep the limits ordained by Allâh, then there is no sin on either of them if she gives back (the Mahr or a part of it) for her Al-Khul‘ (divorce)[2]. These are the limits ordained by Allâh, so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits ordained by Allâh, then such are the Zâlimûn (wrong-doers).

230. And if he has divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she has married another husband. Then, if the other husband divorces her, it is no sin on both of them that they reunite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allâh. These are the limits of Allâh, which He makes plain for the people who have knowledge.

Consider this scenario...

If you are contesting for a political position an elder in your society told u that u will now win cos u are not caring to elderly etc is he not giving you clue/tips cos he dont want u to loss the election?

TheOutlaw:
It's a relief to know that after reducing women to the status of animals whose presence can nullify prayers, muhamad allowed them to inherit property.

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Maybe he was trying to protect women from men who take advantage of their natural deficiency of intelligence

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Or maybe he just wanted them to enjoy life a little bit before they end up in their final destination:


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If a woman gives birth to a baby boy, then she becomes unclean for 7 days. But if she gives birth to a baby girl, then she becomes unclean for 14 days.


N:B.So in other words, the birth of any female causes double the pollution:


Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."

fortran12:

So according to your logic if a lady is defined by a man it means men are filthy and dirty. But every normal person knows what being defiled means. But you choose to play ignorant and ignore basic English comprehension and choose to give it your own meaning.
The meaning clearly shows the people are sexually pure.

The second part you quoted are ceremonial laws given to the Israelites after they left Egypt. That was the old Testament, Jesus brought the new Testament. Christians follow Jesus Christ. The old Testament laws were are shadow of what Jesus came to actualize.

Like I said before try again, this time harder.

We all know what Mohammed thinks of women and how he likes his girls and how he likes them with almost see thru skin and hairless legs.

If a woman tries to save her husband from a beating by grabbing the other man's private parts to lift him off her husband, then both her hands must get cut off:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow.

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Rashduct4luv

khalling2008:

If a woman gives birth to a baby boy, then she becomes unclean for 7 days. But if she gives birth to a baby girl, then she becomes unclean for 14 days.


N:B.So in other words, the birth of any female causes double the pollution:


Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."

fortran12:


All the interpretations I gave are inline with what your scholars say. In Islam you are not allowed to have an opinion. You are supposed to consult your hadiths or tafsir about every issue. So you cannot go around giving meanings to things that your books have agreed about.

Goof upon goof. You're yet to sort your previous goof yet you fell into another goof.

khalling2008:

If a woman tries to save her husband from a beating by grabbing the other man's private parts to lift him off her husband, then both her hands must get cut off:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow.

Try again pls, its not working, you just quoting irrelevant verses.

Newnas:


Goof upon goof. You're yet to sort your previous goof yet you fell into another goof.

Which goof is that please? At least I put references to all my quotes

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Rashduct4luv

If a husband finds at his wedding night that his wife is not a virgin, she will be stoned to death

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

13 “If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and then spurns her,
14 and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings an evil name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her the tokens of virginity,’
15 then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the tokens of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate;
16 and the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man to wife, and he spurns her;
17 and lo, he has made shameful charges against her, saying, “I did not find in your daughter the tokens of virginity.” And yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the garment before the elders of the city.
18 Then the elders of that city shall take the man and whip him;
19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver, and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought an evil name upon a virgin of Israel; and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
20 But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman,
21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has wrought folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father’s house; so you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.

fortran12:


Try again pls, its not working, you just quoting irrelevant verses.

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.

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khalling2008:

If a husband finds at his wedding night that his wife is not a virgin, she will be stoned to death

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

13 “If any man takes a wife, and goes in to her, and then spurns her,
14 and charges her with shameful conduct, and brings an evil name upon her, saying, ‘I took this woman, and when I came near her, I did not find in her the tokens of virginity,’
15 then the father of the young woman and her mother shall take and bring out the tokens of her virginity to the elders of the city in the gate;
16 and the father of the young woman shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man to wife, and he spurns her;
17 and lo, he has made shameful charges against her, saying, “I did not find in your daughter the tokens of virginity.” And yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the garment before the elders of the city.
18 Then the elders of that city shall take the man and whip him;
19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver, and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought an evil name upon a virgin of Israel; and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
20 But if the thing is true, that the tokens of virginity were not found in the young woman,
21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has wrought folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father’s house; so you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.

khalling2008:

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.



The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.

Keep quoting out irrelevant verses, refute the claims i made first, instead you deflect and try to change the argument if you so sure of yourself defend your prophet, but am sure you cant cos he will be spanked any day any time.

When you ready to debate let me know.Stop posting verses irrelevant to the topic

TheOutlaw:

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Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.

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fortran12:


Keep quoting out irrelevant verses, refute the claims i made first, instead you deflect and try to change the argument if you so sure of yourself defend your prophet, but am sure you cant cos he will be spanked any day any time.

When you ready to debate let me know.Stop posting verses irrelevant to the topic

Leviticus 20:15 "If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal."

Let us look at Leviticus 20:16 "If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."


Notice that in Leviticus 20:15 the man has to be caught having sex with an animal in order for him to be put to death. We have to be sure 100% beyond the shadow of the doubt to kill him.


Notice however in Leviticus 20:16 that if a woman only looks SUSPICIOUS and not necessarily get caught having sex with an animal, she would still be put to death. We do not have to be sure 100% beyond the shadow of the doubt with her in order for us to kill her.


It is beyond question that Leviticus 20:15 and
Leviticus 20:16 prove that the Bible prefers to put women to death whenever an opportunity presents itself!

fortran12:


Keep quoting out irrelevant verses, refute the claims i made first, instead you deflect and try to change the argument if you so sure of yourself defend your prophet, but am sure you cant cos he will be spanked any day any time.

When you ready to debate let me know.Stop posting verses irrelevant to the topic

I don't think the verses are irrelevant.

Inheritance is the practice of passing on property, titles, debts, rights, and obligations upon the death of an individual.

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

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khalling2008:

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.

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khalling2008:

Leviticus 20:15 "If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal."

Let us look at Leviticus 20:16 "If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."


Notice that in Leviticus 20:15 the man has to be caught having sex with an animal in order for him to be put to death. We have to be sure 100% beyond the shadow of the doubt to kill him.


Notice however in Leviticus 20:16 that if a woman only looks SUSPICIOUS and not necessarily get caught having sex with an animal, she would still be put to death. We do not have to be sure 100% beyond the shadow of the doubt with her in order for us to kill her.


It is beyond question that Leviticus 20:15 and
Leviticus 20:16 prove that the Bible prefers to put women to death whenever an opportunity presents itself!

Rashduct4luv:


I don't think the verses are irrelevant.

Inheritance is the practice of passing on property, titles, debts, rights, and obligations upon the death of an individual.

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

You guys keep quoting the old testament, which is the history of the Jewish people, whn Jesus had not come, but I will answer you

On the way to the promised land, the Isrealites camped near the Moab, then the Midiantes and Moabites waged war on Israel and even hired a prophet to curse them - Balaam , and when the curses did not work, he asked the Midianite women to seduce the Israelites men into the sexual worship of other gods and this caused a plague. This plague had killed 24,000 people ( numbers 25:9) and this is what Moses was reminding the people of in Numbers 31:16. Part of the ritual worship of the god Baal was orgies and cutting themselves. This meant that all the boys who had been circumcised and all the women who weren't virgins were possible carriers of diseases. So God gave the command, to kill circumcized males and non virgin females and leave the virgins alone.

But after Jesus came he brought a new testament (testament = covenant) and that is who Christians follow, all the old testament are shadows or what Christ brings to light, Jesus also came via the people in the old testament that is why the history of these people is in the Bible.

But I know one Mohammed who raped Sophia after killing her family members in front of her. Also when the muslim companions of Mohammed were embarrassed and had conscience of not sleeping with the female captives in front of their husbands, suddenly "al-lah" spoke to mohammed
So Al-lah, the Exalted, sent down the verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

Compare Jesus vs Mohammed, all what I quoted are deeds of your prophet , do the same for Jesus and you will have nothing to bring up.History never lies, Mohammed's deeds were complied by his companions and we all know how terrible and violent he is, if he were alive today , he will be in a maximum jail cell where no one is allowed to visit him.
Muslims you have been scammed by a man who created a cult and you have to defend him by all means even if it means lying. Best you accept Jesus and leave mohammed the scam artist.

You mean an Allahu that doesn't know that Maryam the mother of Jesus is different from Miriam the sister of Aaron?

Whoever plagiarized the bible is an olodo.

fortran12:

You guys keep quoting the old testament, which is the history of the Jewish people, whn Jesus had not come, but I will answer you.

The same old testament that your tithes, singing and clapping came from. Or did Jesus sing, clap and dance with his disciples?

fortran12:
On the way to the promised land, the Isrealites camped near the Moab, then the Midiantes and Moabites waged war on Israel and even hired a prophet to curse them - Balaam , and when the curses did not work, he asked the Midianite women to seduce the Israelites men into the sexual worship of other gods and this caused a plague. This plague had killed 24,000 people ( numbers 25:9) and this is what Moses was reminding the people of in Numbers 31:16. Part of the ritual worship of the god Baal was orgies and cutting themselves. This meant that all the boys who had been circumcised and all the women who weren't virgins were possible carriers of diseases. So God gave the command, to kill circumcized males and non virgin females and leave the virgins alone.

They had diseases that your Gods cannot cure right? What folly is this fortran12? Jesus wasn't involved here cos I know your Bible says he can even wake the dead. Why can't your Gods forgive and cure them instead of killing their men and women and saving fresh children girls for themselves? Up here you Gods(Jesus) included killed and save fresh virgins for people but down there you were quoting Hadith about Sophia?

And I have some questions on this " save the Virgin girls for themselves" verse.

1. How do they know the virgins? Did they use a virginometer back then? Or probably were checking the young girls privies one by one.
God is good all the time.
2. How will they save virgins girls for themselves?
Is it marriage? Casual rape? Consentual sex? Sex with minors?
God is good all the time.
3. Are all the men, boys,women and girls guilty? What's their unforgivable crime?
God is good all the time.

fortran12:

But after Jesus came he brought a new testament (testament = covenant) and that is who Christians follow, all the old testament are shadows or what Christ brings to light, Jesus also came via the people in the old testament that is why the history of these people is in the Bible.

Of cos Jesus was not around in the OT cos he would have address the situation better. Jesus was kind when he was in the NT. Had he been around there would have been no killings at all and rappings in the OT.

fortran12:

But I know one Mohammed who raped Sophia after killing her family members in front of her. Also when the muslim companions of Mohammed were embarrassed and had conscience of not sleeping with the female captives in front of their husbands, suddenly "al-lah" spoke to mohammed
So Al-lah, the Exalted, sent down the verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

It was the custom to sleep with female war captives after their waiting period elapse. If the enemies had won they would have done worse. That's the rule of engagement for female captives.

fortran12:

Compare Jesus vs Mohammed, all what I quoted are deeds of your prophet , do the same for Jesus and you will have nothing to bring up.History never lies, Mohammed's deeds were complied by his companions and we all know how terrible and violent he is, if he were alive today , he will be in a maximum jail cell where no one is allowed to visit him.

Comparison between Jesus of the Bible and our Muhammad is like comparing the East to the west. Hypocrisy is when Jesus partake in killing millions in the OT then becomes gentle in the NT.
Who should really be jailed?
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever indeed.

It's also injustice for Jesus to have used hard laws in the OT and then proclaim Grace in the NT.

fortran12:
Muslims you have been scammed by a man who created a cult and you have to defend him by all means even if it means lying. Best you accept Jesus and leave mohammed the scam artist.

Where did Jesus anyone should accept him in the Bible?

Christianity as a whole is the biggest scam of the millennium.

Rashduct4luv:

The same old testament that your tithes, singing and clapping came from. Or did Jesus sing, clap and dance with his disciples?

What does all that have to do with the law? before the law was given people used to clap and sing and give money. If Jesus clapped and sang good. All these are just forms of expressions to show love or support. But i know Mohammed hated music and art, that is why people are killed when they try to draw a picture of their favourite prophet.

They had diseases that your Gods cannot cure right? What folly is this fortran12? Jesus wasn't involved here cos I know your Bible says he can even wake the dead. Why can't your Gods forgive and cure them instead of killing their men and women and saving fresh children girls for themselves? Up here you Gods(Jesus) included killed and save fresh virgins for people but down there you were quoting Hadith about Sophia?

In the old testament there was no blotting out of sin, sin could only be covered - according to the covenant, so people died for sins they committed. if they do not perform sacrifices to cover such sins.

And I have some questions on this " save the Virgin girls for themselves" verse.

1. How do they know the virgins? Did they use a virginometer back then? Or probably were checking the young girls privies one by one.
God is good all the time.

The females that gave themselves to Baal worship were easy to detect, so the worship included slashing their bodies etc and off course they will be found around the temple of Baal.

2. How will they save virgins girls for themselves?
Is it marriage? Casual rape? Consentual sex? Sex with minors?
God is good all the time.

They bible orderd them not to kill the virgins, there were laws regarding sex outside marriage all in the book of Deuteronomy. The bible does not allow rape or sex outside marriage there are consequences for such.

3. Are all the men, boys,women and girls guilty? What's their unforgivable crime?
God is good all the time.

It was a war that was fought, the Bible did not say kill all the men, boys and women stop twisting, its the circumcised males and non- virgin females, there was a plague that was caused by these people and still it was a war and the Israelite won, if they had lost the same would have been done to them. These people did not believe in God of the Israelites so what forgiveness are you talking about.

Of cos Jesus was not around in the OT cos he would have address the situation better. Jesus was kind when he was in the NT. Had he been around there would have been no killings at all and rappings in the OT.

There was the law that ended and ushered in the grace of Jesus.

It was the custom to sleep with female war captives after their waiting period elapse. If the enemies had won they would have done worse. That's the rule of engagement for female captives.

Which custom? MOhammed was claiming his god was the same one that gave the torah to Moses and if God condemned rape then, why will he allow it now, what is the point of raping them in front of their husbands? Then men of Mohammed did not want to (this counters your custom of sex with war captives) until Mohammed received a new inspiration that allah has given them permission to tape these women. And even it was your prophet that was the aggressor, he was the one going about killing and claiming people's lands, there was an instance where he wanted to wage war against a country just to get blonde girls. We all know Mohammed loves sex with women, that he had over 10 wives and had several benefits of women "giving" themselves to the prophet, claimed to have the sexpower of 30/ 40 men and also one hadith talks of him having a go with his 11 wives all in one night.
So, it was not customary.

Comparison between Jesus of the Bible and our Muhammad is like comparing the East to the west. Hypocrisy is when Jesus partake in killing millions in the OT then becomes gentle in the NT.
Who should really be jailed?
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever indeed.

So now you claim Jesus is God, that is a nice admission. in the old testament, people died cos of sin, in new testament Jesus came in ti bring grace, Mohammed came in 600 years after Christ when grace was available claimed to he the last prophet after Jesus, called all the biblical characters prophets now you dont want them to be compared?

It's also injustice for Jesus to have used hard laws in the OT and then proclaim Grace in the NT.

You just claimed Jesus is God how can you accuse God of injustice? Grace had to start from where the law ended, how can God just introduce grace when the people do not even understand what sin is.

Where did Jesus anyone should accept him in the Bible?

Christianity as a whole is the biggest scam of the millennium.

Christianity is a scam yet your prophet when he began his prophet-hood claimed christians and Jews will go to heaven then when he became power drunk he then received another verse to kill Jews and Christians. What is the obsession of the Mohammed with the bible that he dedicated chapters to Mary , Jesus etc except that he copied several portions of it albeit wrongly and then claimed they were verse inspired by hsi god al-lah . Mohammed is the true scam, promising paradise of sex,women and wine to people who are killed during a jihad, isnt that a scam?


Why not stand back and look at the life style of your prophet and ask if he is to be trusted. God calls you via Jesus accepting him is as easy as drinking water. Choose life choose Jesus
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