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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:28am On Nov 17, 2019
samorobo:


You and Kenny should stop worrying you self "laro kutukutu"(lol pardon my Yoruba)......who ever told you Dubai is completed his a liar..I doubt if they've gone past second phase...why do you think Jumeirah city among others is coming up... Honestly ekoatlantic is even surprising me...for a country that is facing serious economic crises with a 2.38 GDP growthand still have about 14 towers under construction (8 towers in Eko village, Lagos sky tower, 3 towers in azuri pennisular, C tower, audacity tower, A&A ) tower, ) I will say that is a miracle... Dubai was built during oil boom...As the economy recover further so will ekoatlantic...
Alright? Please try and be updating us more on eko Atlantic City

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:28am On Nov 17, 2019
Don't you get tired with wet dreams?
samorobo:

EYIMBA ECONOMIC CITY is a big project and has partial funding from the Chinese, the rest will have to come from either the govt or private sector....Work has started there but then I doubt if they've gone past horizontal infastructure (it started this year)....The governor of Abia returned from Johannesburg last week with more funds from the project during the Africa investment week or forum whatever....
As for orange island you can't say funding cos that project started in 2017 and prior to their last video which I have uploaded here, one could see land reclamation has been finalized with road construction which was vividly shown in that video...

Awka millennium city started two months ago and have all the funded need for the project cos it is not even so much of a project to begin with....

I track all this city project on social media for info and oftentimes communicate with some of their developers
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:31am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Nairobi also has roads, or do you think it's only Accra? Furthermore, most international visitors come by air. Stop being stupid.

You are an idiot....international visitor aren't just people from the Europe and America. TZ and Uganda are also international visitor in Kenya. don't be foolish ..


let's do comparism using visa card ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:33am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
Don't you get tired with wet dreams?

Enjoy your Namibia vacation before it is too late.. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:33am On Nov 17, 2019
Vax is never interested in facts - Yes mastercard is NOT widely used in Kenya - VISA is the king.

"All Kenyan banks' ATMs accept Visa cards, MasterCard is not as widely accepted,"
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294206-i9216-k8259372-Mastercard_vs_Visa_in_Kenya-Kenya.html
vaxx2:
only an idiot thinks the way you think. visitors do not only use airport as an access point to a country . you forget the land border which arguably has more people using the land than airport....now back to visa card which is more popular in Ghana than master card . it seems you failed to understand that.

provide emperical evidence and let's where your Nairobi and unknown mombasa fall.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:34am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
Guys, don't waste time with the confirmed zoo - Nigeria which is the world poverty capital. Let us try understand Ghana..it better use of our time. We have completely debunked and unraveled Nigeria in 5,000 pages plus.

I am back for a few hours - so as we try to debunk the lies that Ghana is progressive nation-we now know it's an IMF colony that despite being literally named Gold coast - has gone belly up 16 times - latest about 3yrs ago - I remember a story my boss once told me about Ghana.

He had joined US PeaceCorps and was assigned a mission to Ghana. He said as soon as they got to Ghana - USAID would organize a tour of massive ABANDONED projects littering the country. Ghana he told me looks like a wasteland of abandoned projects. You'd find half-completed buildings - or completed buildings with overgrown vegetation.

Now I understand Ghana, like a drunken sailor, whenever commodities prices are high (Gold, Diamond, Cocoa, Aluminum, Bauxite, Oil & Gas ) Ghana goes into massive public expenditure and borrowing, and a few years later the prices drop, the country literally goes broke, hyperinflation sets in, and IMF comes calling with AUSTERITY MEASURES.

Projects are abandoned mid-way, civil servants are fired, the usual tightening of the belt. Then commodity prices rise again, Ghana rises like a Phoenix again, starts over-spending & over-leveraging (borrowing), and soon it's back to ICU.

This is they have done a record 16 times.

Conclusion. Ghana is a primitive undeveloped economy led by morons.You can re-phrase to Ghana is an Informal economy led by political neanderthals.

Now that commodities are doing good - they are even thinking of borrowing 50B dollars smiley - and when prices drop (and they do) - the country will sink - hyperinflation - will send Ghanians scampering out of the country like Zimbwabweans.
Your country is a complete ZOO. So we don't argue with zoobies like you kiberans grin you can now argue with the Ghanaians cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 17, 2019
Just30:
grin grin grin grin grin

Yes Michelle trace her ancestry to Ghana
And Ghana has always been Ghana.
going by your analogy everybody is a kenyan because we are the cradle of mankind. Haha
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:37am On Nov 17, 2019
If you go to SkyscrapperCity and try to find anything progressing in Nigeria - outside Dangote - you'd have better luck finding a needle in a haystack.
samorobo:


Enjoy your Namibia trip before it is too late.. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:37am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
Vax is never interested in facts - Yes mastercard is widely used in Kenya - VISA is the king.

"All Kenyan banks' ATMs accept Visa cards, MasterCard is not as widely accepted,"
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294206-i9216-k8259372-Mastercard_vs_Visa_in_Kenya-Kenya.html
Then let's use visa card comparism... ..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:38am On Nov 17, 2019
Troy404:
going by your analogy everybody is a kenyan because we are the cradle of mankind. Haha
Botswana will discard your point
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 9:42am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


When I check google street view, most of Accra looks like this though.




Ok.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:42am On Nov 17, 2019
It only makes sense to argue if you're committed to fact-finding based on empirical evidence and if you don't resort to cheap insults.

vaxx2:
Then let's use visa card comparism... ..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:45am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
For the fact that your national statistics failed to provide evidence and international organization did . it shows there is nothing to compare anymore. the body i cites already give us a fear idea on what is excepted of kibera ...

if you foolishly failed to validate such statistics and your national statistics also failed to do so, is it the rest you will not foolishly failed to answer....

Evidence of what?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:47am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
You are an idiot....international visitor aren't just people from the Europe and America. TZ and Uganda are also international visitor in Kenya. don't be foolish ..


let's do comparism using visa card ?


Okay, we have already established that Nairobi receives more visitors via air than Accra. Now prove to me that Accra receives more visitors by road than Nairobi.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:47am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
Botswana will discard your point
Everybody is free to discard anything.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:47am On Nov 17, 2019
Troy404:
going by your analogy everybody is a kenyan because we are the cradle of mankind. Haha

Gold. cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 9:48am On Nov 17, 2019
theenchanter:
medieval cities like london and paris have parallel development and their architecture is also different from modern cities like dubai or hong kong. No modern city builds like paris or central london with their type of architecture again.

Modern cities build modern structure that can fill modern demand.... we now build more highrises with steel and glass unlike before, u can't compare dubai's buildings with any type of building in central london or westminster.

See, i'm not talking about Accra or whatever but d basis of a city development.

I can't argue on the basis of city development if this was what he meant. My only qualm with him was his flawed thinking of disparaging cities without skyscrapers as lacking infrastructure.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 9:52am On Nov 17, 2019
Kazikazi:
Don't confuse stuff.European cities were built ages back,while Asian cities are newly built due to economic boom towards the end of last century.Nowadays,most European nations has fewer birth rate,the need for more offices and skyscrapers is not there.In days of European economic boom,they built many stuff which were suitable and cool in those olden days.There is no economic boom without a surge of real estate activities.

Look at the pic of London below.The pic is snapped from wharf area in London.Have u seen the type of office they have? Does it look as a poor man's workplace? Look at the ceiling,look at the neighborhood, does it look poor? That is what we mean by middle class offices and neighborhood. But yet,London don't have many skyscrapers like Asian cities,but still,London don't look poor! And yes it is not.

Back to Ghana..
You lack skyscrapers. You lack well to do neighborhood.You lack real estate growth which resembles your economic boom. Yet,you claim to have an economic boom.Why should we believe u? Why is it only u who has economic boom but no upsurge in real estate?Where is your cement consumptions going?


kazikazi hapo umenena ndipo smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:53am On Nov 17, 2019
Troy404:
Everybody is free to discard anything.
They recently discover an evidence that is dated back years more than what is discover in Kenya. the year gaps is so big....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:57am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:



Okay, we have already established that Nairobi receives more visitors via air than Accra. Now prove to me that Accra receives more visitors by road than Nairobi.
stop grasping at straw... we are talking about visitor coming to Nairobi and Accra. and you are only cherry picking.... airport, seaport , and land border are three most common access point while land border happens to be much more popular. we can only have an average idea thru transaction card system...


ViSA or master card which do you want to choose ....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:58am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
It only makes sense to argue if you're committed to fact-finding based on empirical evidence and if you don't resort to cheap insults.

I am ready to accept fact based evidence and not the one quoted from blog page .....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 10:01am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Evidence of what?
The actual total number of slums dwellers. You don't do census simply to count, we also do to plan for social development . your goverment should have a better idea of the number of people living in slums in kibera ....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:02am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
If you go to SkyscrapperCity and try to find anything progressing in Nigeria - outside Dangote - you'd have better luck finding a needle in a haystack.

Skyscrapercity is just like nairaland where anyone can wake up one morning and create a thread based on what he must have heard, seen, or experienced on a project..most people there don't even know half the projects going on in Nigeria...
I don't do skyscrapercity, I visit the project site and communicate with the developers if I have to...Nigerian user are not like nairobi user who are willing to sneak into site just to get images and post on skyscrapercity.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:03am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
The actual total number of slums dwellers. You don't do census simply to count, we also do to plan for social development . your goverment should have a better idea of the number of people living in slums in kibera ....

So what evidence did your source give?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:03am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
Guys, don't waste time with the confirmed zoo - Nigeria which is the world poverty capital. Let us try understand Ghana..it better use of our time. We have completely debunked and unraveled Nigeria in 5,000 pages plus.

I am back for a few hours - so as we try to debunk the lies that Ghana is progressive nation-we now know it's an IMF colony that despite being literally named Gold coast - has gone belly up 16 times - latest about 3yrs ago - I remember a story my boss once told me about Ghana.

He had joined US PeaceCorps and was assigned a mission to Ghana. He said as soon as they got to Ghana - USAID would organize a tour of massive ABANDONED projects littering the country. Ghana he told me looks like a wasteland of abandoned projects. You'd find half-completed buildings - or completed buildings with overgrown vegetation.

Now I understand Ghana, like a drunken sailor, whenever commodities prices are high (Gold, Diamond, Cocoa, Aluminum, Bauxite, Oil & Gas ) Ghana goes into massive public expenditure and borrowing, and a few years later the prices drop, the country literally goes broke, hyperinflation sets in, and IMF comes calling with AUSTERITY MEASURES.

Projects are abandoned mid-way, civil servants are fired, the usual tightening of the belt. Then commodity prices rise again, Ghana rises like a Phoenix again, starts over-spending & over-leveraging (borrowing), and soon it's back to ICU.

This is they have done a record 16 times.

Conclusion. Ghana is a primitive undeveloped economy led by morons.You can re-phrase to Ghana is an Informal economy led by political neanderthals.

Now that commodities are doing good - they are even thinking of borrowing 50B dollars smiley - and when prices drop (and they do) - the country will sink - hyperinflation - will send Ghanians scampering out of the country like Zimbwabweans.

Lol vaxx be careful this one wants to change the KIBERA topic....they hate it when you speak about it. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:04am On Nov 17, 2019
Vax,

The credit card boom has not yet reached Ghana. This is because credit card fraud is prevalent in Ghana, leading to what has until recently been a cash-based economy.

Ghanaians who are afraid that their card number will be reused fraudulently, or that they might be charged more than once by the same vendor, are apprehensive to adopt this common payment method, despite the switch to EMV cards in recent years.

These payment methods witnessed GH¢70 million in credit card transactions and GH¢ 13.58 million in debit card transactions in 2016. Compared to the billions in mobile money transactions, it is clear that adoption of credit and debit card based financial services is lagging.

Evidence - 2018 Ghana Payment System Annual Report
https://www.bog.gov.gh/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Payment-Systems-Annual-Report-2018-Final-Version_PUBLICATION.pdf

And Kenya does
The value of card-based transactions dipped by 0.5% to KSh1.39trn ($13.9bn) last year, CBK data showed, with the figure falling by 9.1% from the high of KSh1.53trn ($15.3bn) recorded in 2013.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:05am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
stop grasping at straw... we are talking about visitor coming to Nairobi and Accra. and you are only cherry picking.... airport, seaport , and land border are three most common access point while land border happens to be much more popular. we can only have an average idea thru transaction card system...


ViSA or master card which do you want to choose ....
So you want us to count international visitors to cities by Visa or Master card transactions instead of airport, seaport or land arrivals. Very funny guy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 10:06am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


So what evidence did your source give?
That in 2014 , over 2.5 million lives in kibera slums. I have ask you for 2009 census of kibera . this is what we can used to flawed their Data or accept it if there is any marginal of error.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:07am On Nov 17, 2019
There is nothing wrong with a blog - esp those that quote - their source of data.

For example - I just discovered Ghanian are so afraid of cards - you did about 83 Million Cedis worth of debit & credit transaction. THAT IS SO MINUTE. That is like 15M dollars.

Kenya card-based transaction are like 13 BILLION DOLLARS.


vaxx2:
I am ready to accept fact based evidence and not the one quoted from blog page .....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:09am On Nov 17, 2019
Actually all the card-based credit & debit transactions in Ghana are probably done by foreigners in their airport. They do a measily 15M dollars worth of transaction annually. It a very primitve cash based informal economy (now mobile money is helping them so much). These Ghanians probably never seen a card swiping machine if they have never stepped into airport or ATM.

Kenya does 13 BILLION DOLLARS worth of card-based transactions. That is like 1,0000 times what Ghana does.

Troy404:
So you want us to count international visitors to cities by Visa or Master card transactions instead of airport, seaport or land arrivals. Very funny guy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:09am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
That in 2014 , over 2.5 million lives in kibera slums. I have ask you for 2009 census of kibera . this is what we can used to flawed their Data or accept it if there is any marginal of error.

Do you know the meaning of the word evidence?How's that statement evidence?

The second part, you first asked me for the 2019 census. I gave you, you are still here arguing and asking for the 2009 census. Why should I waste my time?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 10:10am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
There is nothing wrong with a blog - esp those that quote - their source of data.

For example - I just discovered Ghanian are so afraid of cards - you did about 83 Million Cedis worth of debit & credit transaction. THAT IS SO MINUTE. That is like 15M dollars.

Kenya card-based transaction are like 13 BILLION DOLLARS.


They arw many things wrong with blogs... it so more often a beer parlour report unless the blogs cited trusted body that is regulated with stastical evidence....

There is so much of card payment transaction in Ghana, you can get the stastical thru bank of Ghana. not blogs page

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