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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:12am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Dude, 4.3M in 696 sq. km is not equal to 2.5M in 2.5sq. km. Which school did you go to? Some of you reason like they've no brain. The former translates to 6178 people per sq. km while the later translates to 1,000,000 people per square km. I think you need to see a doctor.
You need to calm down . your emotional inteligence is getting depressed. 2.5 million slums dweller in 2014 might not neccasrily be the same as 2019. Argue from that figure it will make you a little more inteligent. the square kilometre with population size you have For the the whole Nairobi suggest Nairobi Is a pack sardine where human are squeaing to fit each other . since the slums are most the largest concentration of poor individual. it make more sense to suggest kibera slums might have reduce but not as much....


The ugly incidence here is simply because of your national statistics authority . it has decided not to let the world know the ugly truth.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:13am On Nov 17, 2019
Troy404:
i see an average Ghanaian has a swimming pool in the last photo, you guys are doing good.
very few Ghanaian homes have swimming pools

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:13am On Nov 17, 2019
Abohboy:


You Kenyans do not understand technology that said 2007 dollars equals 11 000 cedis idiots everywhere I'm not even sure what you were trying to search but clearly you do not understand what Google gave you

Didn't you redenominate your currency in 2007?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:18am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
You need to calm down . your emotional inteligence is getting depressed. 2.5 million slums dweller in 2014 might not neccasrily be the same as 2019. Argue from that figure it will make you a little more inteligent. the square kilometre with population size you have For the the whole Nairobi suggest Nairobi Is a pack sardine where human are squeaing to fit each other . since the slums are most the largest concentration of poor individual. it make more sense to suggest kibera slums might have reduce but not as much....


The ugly incidence here is simply because of your national statistics authority . it has decided not to let the world know the ugly truth.

Stop using too many words to say very little. Didn't you say there are 2.5M people in Kibera slum? Isn't the area of Kibera slum 2.5 sq. km? Let's start from there.

PS...............It is pretty clear that you're incapable of visualizing what 6000 people per square km is but that is a very low figure in the context of city population density. For comparison, the population density of Lagos is 6800 people per square km. Meanwhile, what you are suggesting for Kibera is impossible and I already gave you the total population of Kibra subcounty as 185k. I don't even understand what you are arguing about.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 11:21am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
The blog quote Bank of Ghana - your central banker- and I went ahead and got this for you. Read it below this text. Your primitive cash-based informal economy cannot EVER HOLD A CANDLE TO KENYA. 15M dollars worth of card-based transactions - compared to 13 BILLION dollars in Kenya.
https://www.bog.gov.gh/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Payment-Systems-Annual-Report-2018-Final-Version_PUBLICATION.pdf

Mvp; keep it coming!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:22am On Nov 17, 2019
More like this

Just30:
yes
that is what a typical Ghanaian home looks like

Three and four-bedroom homes

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:23am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Didn't you redenominate your currency in 2007?
You are idiot. USA, France, Austria a redominated their currency. it was simply a target to remove paper money volume and demonsrate the real value of the money based on purchasing power value and the control of inflation..

The redenomination was carried out as part of the government’s efforts to convince citizens and markets that hyper-inflation is a thing of the past. Inflation was as high as 116% in 1977, 117% in 1981 and 123% in 1983. Now inflation has been reduced to 7.6. will it not be intelligent to reduce the money volume and give it is actual rate....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:25am On Nov 17, 2019
tylann:


abidjan doesnot beat nairobi in skyscrapers
google top 10 skyscrapers in africa no single skyscraper from abidjan features in top 10

we told you guys when it comes to skyscrapers, malls or hotels no west african country comes closer to nairobi
look for some else like hdi which only beats kenya the others are among the worst in africa
it doesnt have to feature to make it true
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:26am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
You are idiot. USA, France, Austria a redominated their currency. it was simply a target to remove paper money volume and demonsrate the real value of the money based on purchasing power value and the control of inflation..

The redenomination was carried out as part of the government’s efforts to convince citizens and markets that hyper-inflation is a thing of the past. Inflation was as high as 116% in 1977, 117% in 1981 and 123% in 1983. Now inflation has been reduced to 7.6. will it not be intelligent to reduce the money volume and give it is actual rate....

Stop getting emotional. I have no problem with you redenominating your money, but you can't come and boast here how your money is more valuable than ours when you redenominated it. The most interesting thing is, immediately after redenomination, the Cedi exchange at Kshs. 75 per Cedi. Currently it is a mere Kshs. 18 per cedi. Within the next 10 years, the Kenya shilling will already be stronger than the Cedi.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:26am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Stop using too many words to say very little. Didn't you say there are 2.5M people in Kibera slum? Isn't the area of Kibera slum 2.5 sq. km? Let's start from there.

PS...............It is pretty clear that you're incapable of visualizing what 6000 people per square km is but that is a very low figure in the context of city population density. For comparison, the population density of Lagos is 6800 people per square km. Meanwhile, what you are suggesting for Kibera is impossible and I already gave you the total population of Kibra subcounty as 185k. I don't even understand what you are arguing about.
keep putting words to your bogus statistician. if you cannot provide details of kibera slums in 2009 and let's use it to judge 2019. how more can we trust the data you foolishly upload .


Your statistical report indicate, you have added 9 million . You aren't talking to a kenyan. you know . for failing to provide such figure for comparism. you have lost it...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:29am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Stop getting emotional. I have no problem with you redenominating your money, but you can't come and boast here how your money is more valuable than ours when you redenominated it. The most interesting thing is, immediately after redenomination, the Cedi exchange at Kshs. 75 per Cedi. Currently it is a mere Kshs. 18 per cedi. Within the next 10 years, the Kenya shilling will already be stronger than the Cedi.
if you keep borrowing to stabilized your currency then your shilling we maintain its false value after loosing about 50 percent of its purchasing power.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:31am On Nov 17, 2019
7.6% inflation is cooked...like anything Ghana is doing nowadays. You're just busy re-basing - shifting the scale. But you cannot cook fundamentals.

"The rate was calculated after the base year for the consumer price index was changed to 2018 from 2012. The new basket has 307 items compared with 267 before"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-18/ghana-s-much-lower-inflation-rate-may-not-be-enough-to-cut-rates

While the new number raises the probability of policy being eased “changing only the base year does not influence the underlying price pressures in the economy, so one has to be very careful when interpreting the new figures,” Cobus de Hart, chief economist for west, central and north Africa at NKC African Economics in Paarl, South Africa, said in an emailed response to questions. “What is important though, is the outlook for inflation, and in this regard price pressures are still balanced to the upside.

The old rate reported for July was 9.4% after price growth started edging upward from a low of 9% in January. Government Statistician Samuel Kobina Annim didn’t provide revised inflation data for previous months and said comparative figures will only be released from next month.

“The new rebased number is lower than anticipated,” Ridle Markus, a Johannesburg-based Africa Strategist at Absa Bank Ltd., said by phone. “Despite the new rebased inflation coming in lower the central bank will still leave rates unchanged given that there are risk associated with the currency and other global uncertainties.”

vaxx2:
You are idiot. USA, France, Austria a redominated their currency. it was simply a target to remove paper money volume and demonsrate the real value of the money based on purchasing power value and the control of inflation..

The redenomination was carried out as part of the government’s efforts to convince citizens and markets that hyper-inflation is a thing of the past. Inflation was as high as 116% in 1977, 117% in 1981 and 123% in 1983. Now inflation has been reduced to 7.6. will it not be intelligent to reduce the money volume and give it is actual rate....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 11:33am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:




Does the average Ghanaian live in such houses? Even in Kenya, we have upper Mid-class and rich people living in better houses but claiming the average Kenyan live here is stupid.


Looks like Edenvale. Where's this?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:36am On Nov 17, 2019
tylann:


cooked data obivious
you have not shown us anything marvelous that your cement builds

next year hahaha
kenya is building this at the moment
jkia expressway to westlands
dualing of muranga kenol kobil road
northeastern road project
affordable housing

we will measure cement consumption

The fact that they have more paved road percentage than you should be marvelous enough to tell you where their cement goes to...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:37am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
keep putting words to your bogus statistician. if you cannot provide details of kibera slums in 2009 and let's use it to judge 2019. how more can we trust the data you foolishly upload .


Your statistical report indicate, you have added 9 million . You aren't talking to a kenyan. you know . for failing to provide such figure for comparism. you have lost it...

What exactly do you want to judge? cheesy cheesy cheesy

Okay, give us details of Kibera slums from 2009 so that we can use it to judge your 2014 numbers. Isn't that fair? cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:37am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
7.6% inflation is cooked...like anything Ghana is doing nowadays. You're just busy re-basing - shifting the scale. But you cannot cook fundamentals.

"The rate was calculated after the base year for the consumer price index was changed to 2018 from 2012. The new basket has 307 items compared with 267 before"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-18/ghana-s-much-lower-inflation-rate-may-not-be-enough-to-cut-rates

While the new number raises the probability of policy being eased “changing only the base year does not influence the underlying price pressures in the economy, so one has to be very careful when interpreting the new figures,” Cobus de Hart, chief economist for west, central and north Africa at NKC African Economics in Paarl, South Africa, said in an emailed response to questions. “What is important though, is the outlook for inflation, and in this regard price pressures are still balanced to the upside.

The only problem about you is you inefficiency in reasoning, lower inflation isnt the only factor to contro interest rate. theybare more to it as the amount of cash you have in your cover to stabilized continuous growth and the all overall economic performance...


if there is anything cooked , it will be. from the known corrupt nation called Kenya....



You have stupidly rebased your economy for about 7 times. you were doing so poorly way behind Ghana in 2013 and fastforward 2014 , you suddenly bypass Ghana with your tea and flower economy ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:39am On Nov 17, 2019
Acadavah:


So,many educated Ghanaians travel abroad to find jobs and opportunities since your economy can't hold them while your government lies to AA to come to Ghana/Home since is a land of opportunities. Why are your skilled people don't stay in Ghana and use those opportunities?
the skilled people in Ghana are no longer going anywhere

our brain drain situation ended in 2010

now we are having a brain gain

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:41am On Nov 17, 2019
NairobiWalker:


What exactly do you want to judge? cheesy cheesy cheesy

Okay, give us details of Kibera slums from 2009 so that we can use it to judge your 2014 numbers. Isn't that fair? cheesy

You are the one defending your slums paradise. go ahead prove to us kibera slums population in 2009 is much more lower than the figure and 2019 further expose that figure to be incorrect..... let's wait and see
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:41am On Nov 17, 2019
kikuyu1:


[s]We need some historical perspective-imo,it comes from slave trade(btw,it was HUGELY EXAGGERATED,most blacks came from Europe,losers of the religious wars and others were indig Americans but there was a long running W African slave trade)In a way I don't blame Ghanaians-on the surface they were better than Naij but share the same sociocultural DNA with everyone else in WA:an extremely unfortunate warping from centuries of slave trade. Basically they all learned the wrong things,the Beninese,Togolese,Ivoriennes,Senegalese,Gambians.Cameroonians,Gabonese etc,etc. They cursed themselves for generations learning how to make money without development in the easiest way capturing and selling fellow men. That's why til today their stagnant and/or take refuge in make believe like Katanka/Innoson and the BS we've seen here. That's why in the entire WA there's no dairy industry!? HTF does that even happen. 300 mn people don't produce their own milk,Kenyans! Its why they don't understand the basic foundation of development. It's why trust level,critical for any business is so low.
It explains why there are such strict hierarchies throughout WA and why commoners are obedient unto death to their rulers.
It's why there is a callousness,a contempt for human life itself commonly seen worsened in highly populated nations like Naij as the resource struggle is ofc that much harder.
Why is juju,gris gris and voodoo so much stronger in Naij, Benin and Liberia not Malawi or Zim'?
Tbh , until a regional acknowledgement for responsibility for the slave trade happens there'll be no release from the negative karmic energy holding WA hostage.[/s]


Stop throwing words around ignorantly all in the name of sounding grandiloquent....your write up was useless as usual and unintelligent as I anticipated.....


This is sad for a man in his fifties grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:41am On Nov 17, 2019
kikuyu1:


Looks like Edenvale. Where's this?

Redhill Villas
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:42am On Nov 17, 2019
samorobo:



Stop throwing words around ignorantly all in the name of sounding grandiloquent....your write up was useless as usual and unintelligent as I anticipated.....


This is sad for a man in his fifties grin
forget the fence sitter. there is diary center in kano and it is much more bigger than whatever they can dream of in Kenya.....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:42am On Nov 17, 2019
Let me school you. Central Bank's job is to worry about what Inflation, Interest rate or etc mean to the economy Prof. Samuel Kobina Anim your Chief Statistician should not care about that. He should calculate inflation as it is. In this case - Inflation drops from 9.4% to 7.6% - not because prices of goods and services in Ghana are not increasing in prices monthly - but because he changed the base year to last year. That ordinarily won't be a problem but when you start re-basing 5yrs after another big re-base and start also changing inflation basket and series....then that is playing with Stats..like Yemi Kale does in Nigeria.

In short the reality in Ghana is inflation is NOT DROPPING..it has increased from 9% to 9.4% this year and if old series is used..it probably heading to double-digit --- and this just underlying inflation. Food inflation is at nearly 15% - how are you Ghanians able to survive...I mean those without families abroad who receive remittance.

vaxx2:
The only problem about you is you inefficiency in reasoning, lower inflation isnt the only factor to contro interest rate. theybare more to it as the amount of cash you have in your cover to stabilized continuous growth and the all overall economic performance...


if there is anything cooked , it will be. from the known corrupt nation called Kenya....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:42am On Nov 17, 2019
vaxx2:
You are the one defending your slums paradise. go ahead prove to us kibera slums population in 2009 is much more lower tot hay figure and 2019 further expose that figure to be incorrect.....

You are the one forcing the impossible. Go ahead and prove that there are 2.5 million people in Kibera despite the fact that it is mathematically impossible. I already gave you my source, where is your source?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:42am On Nov 17, 2019
Austine1212:


Ok

Personally i don't like online shopping, i prefer traditional shopping experience. I mean whenwhen those malls close in france it results in loss of investment.

A single mall can employ 2000 people, if those shops closes an online outlet cannot consume all those who lost their jobs.

Even thou the space can be turned into office space it won't be the same.
as much as your assertions are true,

it almost means that,, retailing will move from corporate entities to ordinary people

such that anyone can buy and sell
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:43am On Nov 17, 2019
rvp20182:
Let me school you. Central Bank's job is to worry about what Inflation, Interest rate or etc mean to the economic. Prof Prof. Samuel Kobina Anim your Chief Statistician should not care about that. He should calculate inflation as it is. In this case - Inflation drops from 9.4% to 7.6% - not because prices of goods and services in Ghana are not increasing in prices monthly - but because he changed the base year to last year. That ordinarily won't be a problem but when you start re-basing 5yrs after another big re-base and start also changing inflation basket and series....then that is playing with Stats..like Yemi Kale does in Nigeria.

You aren't diffrence from a slowpoke. rebasing isn't peculiar to Ghana. economy fundamental change almost every quater of financial year hence data changes and this are the factor In the next financial cycle...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:43am On Nov 17, 2019
tylann:


post takoradi development i will post mombasa development froms ports to hotels


Mr compare-er grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 11:45am On Nov 17, 2019
samorobo:



Stop throwing words around ignorantly all in the name of sounding grandiloquent....your write up was useless as usual and unintelligent as I anticipated.....


This is sad for a man in his fifties grin

Not my prob if you or your fangirls can't understand,son!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:46am On Nov 17, 2019
Acadavah:


We are not deluded like you. Kenyans have to attack Ghana so you can agree that Nigeria is better than Kenya. Don't worry your rebased bubble economy will burst soon and your real GDP will shown up. I remember in 2013 you had GDP of Usd 63bill and 2015 GDP of usd 49bill, so much growth.
everyone knows
GDP can grow and decline
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:46am On Nov 17, 2019
Just30:
anyone that will tell you that Singapore has better roads than London is a big liar

Thank you very much ..That was the same thing I told the unexposed village lunatics yesterday...The roads in London that is maintained almost every fvcking week ...The road maintenance team are always looking for the slightest fault in the road to fix....

Roads in London and LA has to be the best kind of road I have ever seen in my life....i don't think roads can be better than that..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:48am On Nov 17, 2019
Just30:
it doesnt have to feature to make it true


abidjan has highrises not skyscrapers
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:49am On Nov 17, 2019
GDP declining from 63B to 49B - happens only when GDP is over-cooked or a war ravages the country or huge disaster breaks out. Your chief stats are playing politics with numbers. Look at them playing with the inflation rate so it doesn't touch the redline of 10% - that would alert the IMF to start packing their bags for yet another rescue operation in ACCRA. But you cannot cook the CEDIS against the USD smiley
Just30:
everyone knows
GDP can grow and decline

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:54am On Nov 17, 2019
kikuyu1:


Not my prob if you or your fangirls can't understand,son!

You were rambling foolishly.....talking about juju and some other madness induced stuff that was totally unrelated to the subject......There is no better way to put it but label an entity like you foolish..

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