greaterlove001:
Bashing of Pastors did not start today and will never cease. Even with the selfless life Jesus lived, he was highly criticized and even crucified. That's just the human nature.
The truth is no organization including church can run without money, hence the need for worshippers to be generous enough to give so that the work of the kingdom of God does not suffer because of limited funds. Besides, the fact that there is blessings in giving (whether church or charity )has not been disputed by anyone so far.
However, scriptural giving is willingly. So no one should feel pressured. Also, where one feels his offering is not rightfully appropriated, you can request for an explanation or change your place of worship if it becomes necessary. There's nothing wrong with being a blessing to a man, God has used to bless you spiritually. If you don't consider him a blessing to your spiritual life, even if you do, you are also at liberty not to show him kindness.

akinade28:
Paul you quote said this when he leaving a particular church to move to another location.
Acts 20:33-35 New International Version (NIV)

33 I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. 34 You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions. 35 In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”

alBHAGDADI:




1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)

13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple?

14. Even so hath the Lord ordained......that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

alBHAGDADI:


Paul was never a pastor of any church. He was an evangelist who moved about.

akinade28:
No, he was still an apostle, a minister of the gospel and his Job was tent making.

alBHAGDADI:


Don't add your own input. Paul never said he didn't write for such to be done. He only said he didn't wrote for them to be done unto him. In other words, he did t condemn it being done to others. It was his choice not to accept such.

alBHAGDADI:


Apostle is different from a pastor. While an Apostle can be a pastor e.g Peter, a Pastor can't be called an Apostle.

Paul was an Apostle but didn't pastor a church. It is the church that supplies the needs of a pastor. Since Paul didn't pastor any Church, he had to sort out his own needs. Even at that, he still had the power to be catered for by believers, but he chose not to.

akinade28:
where is all these in the bible. Brother, you need to study your bible very well oo. You are just lumping things together.

Thetruthshallse:
My brother/sister I can see that you are one of the rational thinkers, but on this issue of Christianity you are wrong. Because things of spirit cannot be understood using rational thoughts. Afterlife is real, and JESUS is real. I pray that God in His infinite mercy will show Himself to you. Shalom

izzou:


. There is nowhere Jesus encourage shepherds to live on the proceeds of their members.

CekJewel:
I believe foundation matters and when it goes wrong, the whole thing is wrong.
When a church worships on Sunday whereas the bible that guides their lives principles say the seventh day is the right day of worship, and in every generation, judging from the bible, there's only one prophet in every age. How come there are more this age?
Pastors are fake. Thats it.

ikennaf1:


Jeez,, you Pentecostal pastors have finished twisting the Bible o... What that verse in bold means is that one should practice what they preach... Jesus Christ... Fear Pentecostals...tufiakwa

alBHAGDADI:


Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

izzou:


Can you show me where the Bible talked about Peter's life, and him feeding from the church?

You type so well and lengthy, yet you're either making little sense or you're misleading people.
How can you say a pastor is supposed to feed from the Church

In Acts, the people brought as they had and the items were distributed to the poor, and the Bible mentioned that "THEY LACKED NOTHING".

Every pastor should work and lead by example. He should be a servant to his congregation, and not the other way round. Stop encouraging laziness in the church

mastermaestro:


People like you avoid sound Sunday school class. This explains your pathetic ignorance. Just keep quiet instead saying rubbish!

alBHAGDADI:


Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

ScepticalPyrrho:
[s] I feel more pity for pastors who haven't realised that christianity is a waste of time.

I hope they discover their senses before they die of ignorance or their belief.

Most modern pastors saw the gullibility of christians and started with the pretense of being genuine.

I understand that some pastors started with strong beliefs in the Bible stories until it is too late to admit their past stupidity and saw the financial benefits in continuing with the shenanigans. Ofcourse, why not?[/s]

kingsarch2000:
I don't have any problem giving pastors money for upkeep or for the ministry. But the manner they preach about tithes and other alms makes you feel obligated. Yes are supposed to give cheerfully, with joy and not because we are obligated to do so. I want to start a donation to a YouTube channel that made me understand the book of Revelations so well that I can boldly preach it to people. Majority of church congregations do not understand it. And it it specifically for our time. When Sunday come most congregants thinks of money to give, clothe to wear etc. And not the fact that the want to go and worship the LORD joyfully. We need to right some wrongs in the church. Church of this generation are acting like the people of Loadicea as mentioned in the book of Revelations. Imagine someone saying that I will not make heaven if I don't pay tithes. What that means pay tithes and heaven is you. John 3:16 no longer matter anymore. As for me, I follow Yeshua.

Makschinchin:


Jesus is Lord bro, the earlier you believe in him and surrender your life to him, the BEST for you..

Shalom!!!

ScepticalPyrrho:

I'll only respond to your post.

Try this, look at your life, I mean your singular life, and tell me what value your belief in Jesus has yielded.

Makschinchin:


Peace bro. I have this peace of mind that I didn't have when I was without Christ. I used to be very restless, troublesome and revengeful, but I thank God for giving me His peace and not only that, but also He touched every aspect of my life. I'm free like a bird now to God's glory and I have no regret giving my life to Christ.

I know what my life was like before I met Christ and I know what it is now, there's a HUGE difference bro. Satan is out lying to and deceiving many people and many people keep buying into his lies the biggest which is There is No God.

Jesus is Lord bro.. I urge you to go to Him now.. He is always there for you

ScepticalPyrrho:

And you think there aren't other humans doing better than you without your Jesus?

Makschinchin:


Now you're digressing from the issue

Thetruthshallse:
My brother/sister I can see that you are one of the rational thinkers, but on this issue of Christianity you are wrong. Because things of spirit cannot be understood using rational thoughts. Afterlife is real, and JESUS is real. I pray that God in His infinite mercy will show Himself to you. Shalom