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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:25am On Nov 18, 2019
Just30:



grin grin grin grin
gethermal power that cant give universal access to all kenyans

such that only 30% of kenyans have actual power.

tell me about your health card when it can cover basic surgeries


I have electricity 24hrs in my house
Hohoho my health coverage covers me in everything except plastic surgeries

Those are basic stuff go brag to Nigerians not me
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 8:25am On Nov 18, 2019
gallivant:


That's sad because RVP knows his stuff. A modern day Gallileo!
Do you actually know RvP is dump. no joking ...he can't argue logically without an articule back up . we can all be doing it. You know...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:26am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:



You just echoed what I said in a rephrased statement...Are you this dumb..


I asked you a question when will Nigeria conduct census

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 8:27am On Nov 18, 2019
tylann:


Post it directly from USAID intelligence unit here

I won't accept anything from your blogs and govt
help your life ...


https://www.usaid.gov/powerafrica/ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:34am On Nov 18, 2019
vaxx2:
Do you actually know RvP is dump. no joking ...he can't argue logically without an articule back up . we can all be doing it. You know...

I don't want to take sides. It's best we stay focused and deal with the paper giant instead. I propose a truce.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 8:36am On Nov 18, 2019
tylann:


I have electricity 24hrs in my house
Hohoho my health coverage covers me in everything except plastic surgeries

Those are basic stuff go brag to Nigerians not me
Go read about Ghana health insurance scheme online ..... avoid Ghana news (Don't trust it) read the international news regarding it...

in Ghana we don't borrow to pay debt, we borrow to fund social development. and surprisingly , more money is coming locally, Yesterday was a bless day for Ghana as the country strike another 1.2 billion barrels of oil with excess GAS capacity .. ..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 8:37am On Nov 18, 2019
gallivant:


I don't want to take sides. It's best we stay focused and deal with the paper giant instead. I propose a truce.
Only if Rvp stop lying .....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:40am On Nov 18, 2019
vaxx2:
Only if Rvp stop lying .....

Those are harsh terms that we can't accept. How about an unconditional truce? grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:43am On Nov 18, 2019
A truce for what?- there is no enmity that I harbor against Nigerians or Ghanaians or any other country - people shouldn't personalize facts about a country. We are here to debate who is better so hopefully someone can learn something. This is not an e-war. We are here to have honest conversations - debunk the lies - to critical examine and compare countries. Yes some facts about our countries can make us angry - but direct the anger mostly to the political and leaderdship class - and some to ourselves - because look at this - we are all nearly equally poor in SSA.
vaxx2:
Only if Rvp stop lying .....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:43am On Nov 18, 2019
tylann:


Hohoho
Because you believe everything white is perfect hohohoho

That would be you guys..never you PROJECT your white worshipping attitude on me...

I repeat any ranking that puts Singapore, Egypt, UAE , Namibia, roads above that of UK can never be taken seriously

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:45am On Nov 18, 2019
tylann:


I asked you a question when will Nigeria conduct census

Why did you intially echo what I said

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:46am On Nov 18, 2019
vaxx2:
Go read about Ghana health insurance scheme online ..... avoid Ghana news (Don't trust it) read the international news regarding it...

in Ghana we don't borrow to pay debt, we borrow to fund social development. and surprisingly , more money is coming locally, Yesterday was a bless day for Ghana as the country strike another 1.2 billion barrels of oil with excess GAS capacity .. ..


You too go and read about Kenya UHC

In Kenya we borrow to fund infrastructure projects
Good for you Kenya was not blessed with natural resources
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:48am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


That would be you guys..never you PROJECT your white worshipping attitude on me...

I repeat any ranking that puts Singapore, Egypt, UAE , Namibia, roads above that of UK can never be taken seriously


Me too I will repeat again

Because you believe anything white is superior

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:49am On Nov 18, 2019
Once you have IMF monkey off your back - come and tell us about your social services - otherwise, I imagine the first business when IMF have come (16 times) is to cut all those social spendings. Development can only happen when you sustain something for a generation or two.

In Kenya we have National Health Insurance fund - and we are also starting Universal Health Care - 4 counties were on pilot and It going national this year. Of course we have many private health insurance for middle class.

NHIF now covers well over 8M households - or about 30M people out of 47M. NHIF covers both outpatient and inpatient in both private, mission and public hospitals....coverage includes even cancer.

Now those 17M will be covered by Universal Health Care - basically they pay nothing in public hospitals.


vaxx2:
Go read about Ghana health insurance scheme online ..... avoid Ghana news (Don't trust it) read the international news regarding it...

in Ghana we don't borrow to pay debt, we borrow to fund social development. and surprisingly , more money is coming locally, Yesterday was a bless day for Ghana as the country strike another 1.2 billion barrels of oil with excess GAS capacity .. ..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 8:52am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


That would be you guys..never you PROJECT your white worshipping attitude on me...

I repeat any ranking that puts Singapore, Egypt, UAE , Namibia, roads above that of UK can never be taken seriously


And you are not serious
UAE and Singapore have superior road infrastructure than the UK
If you find a report that says otherwise
I will leave nairaland and will never return

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:55am On Nov 18, 2019
Nope before re-basing, you need 11,500 CEDIS to get a dollar- or 10,000/1= That is five-figure. : containing five numerical figures . In any case your currency is annually weakening at nearly 15% now.
Just30:
grin grin grin

this your head
shouldnt you go and see a doctor

11,500
is 11 cedis 50 pesewas

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:00am On Nov 18, 2019
I know Ghana electricity access according to your Yemi kale (Ghana Stats Office ) is 85%. That is basis of that number that everyone quote - HOUSEHOLD SURVEYS BY YOUR NATIONAL STATS. But I am telling you for free - you cannot have only 3.7M household connected to electricity according to your power utlity companies and claim you've reach 85%. So there is a problem - with Ghana Statistics - because the data doesn't CROSS-reference with metered customers of your electricity utility company. Unless you mean about 3M Ghanians are illegally connected to the grid or are on off grid (solar systems).

A number of customers has to match the number of households - you have 6.5M households in Ghana with 3.7M connected to the main grid. Your real electricity access to the main grid therefore is about 55%.

In Kenya, we have about 12m households with about 8M connected to the main grid. Mean we still need to cover 4M households. Our real electricity access - at least to the main grid - is 65%.

vaxx2:
i swear you are an idiot.

No reasonable person should take this motor park economist serious again, he lacks basic understanding of fact. I am sure to hell , he never understand what he post here nor did he understand the articule himself

not interested in going low with you.. ..so i shift....


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:01am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


Any ranking that put Namibia of yesterday ahead of UK in terms of road can never be taking seriously even from a roadside abadoned goat...


When namibians were still sitting on trees and plucking mango UK has already finished her road and rail infastructure...

What are we to do with these Nigerians? There is nothing inherently wrong with plucking mango sitting on the tree! We should ship all of them to Europe, Australia and America so they can be close to their masters.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:03am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
A truce for what?- there is no enmity that I harbor against Nigerians or Ghanaians or any other country - people shouldn't personalize facts about a country. We are here to debate who is better so hopefully someone can learn something. This is not an e-war. We are here to have honest conversations - debunk the lies - to critical examine and compare countries. Yes some facts about our countries can make us angry - but direct the anger mostly to the political and leaderdship class - and some to ourselves - because look at this - we are all nearly equally poor in SSA.
unfortunately, u reek of the exact opposite of d bolded.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:03am On Nov 18, 2019
When I say Nigeria is a zoo - It not something that I take lightly. I have carefully examined the facts. But i can change my mind if you can convince me that poverty capital is crawling out of the hole. I also honestly use to think Ghana was great - until KaziKazi jab about their shitty looking cities - jolted me. I only knew from background their trouble with Cedis and last IMF bailout. When I started researching - I was surprised this was 16th bailout. I was also very curiously aware of their 5yr re-basing.


ANyway I think Nigeria versus Kenya is done and dusted. We have loop so many times there is no new argument. It just repition after every 200 pages.

theenchanter:
unfortunately, u reek of the exact opposite of d bolded.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:05am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
When I say Nigeria is a zoo - It not something that I take lightly.
if that's what give u orgasm, so be it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:11am On Nov 18, 2019
You like lying. VALCO sells power directly to mining and large industries - and they also sell to your three distros. I mean the distros are the one that sell directly to consumers.
Just30:
valco used to

when it was running at full capacity

not now

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:13am On Nov 18, 2019
tylann:


You too go and read about Kenya UHC

In Kenya we borrow to fund infrastructure projects
Good for you Kenya was not blessed with natural resources

Lies you borrow to pay old debt whilst the interest and debt accumulate taking your step further to being to lanka ...rvp knows this already
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:20am On Nov 18, 2019
But all your electricity distribution companies - household customers are 3.7M only - In a country with an estimated 6.5M HOUSEHOLDs. Ghana is about 29M people - with an average household having 4.5 people.

Now explain to me why your electricity distribution companies do not have at least 6.5m customers? Or there are people sharing meters?

Otherwise, the data from Ghana Energy Commission doesn't cross-reference with Ghana Statistics Office - alluding to cooking or simply wrongly methodology by your stats office.

http://www.energycom.gov.gh/files/ENERGY_STATISTICS_2019_Updated.pdf


Page 21:
Table 3.14: Grid Electricity Customer Population
Source: ECG/PDS, ENCLAVE POWER & NEDCo;

Contradicts Page 22.
Table 3.16: Electricity Access Rate (%)
Source : Ghana Statistical Services, Ministry of Energy and the Energy Commission.

Just30:

In Ghana

all households are connected and metered
even in the villages and they receive 24/7 electricity unless maintenance outage or power has to be shut down because of a storm.


the only parts of Ghana that are not connected yet are overseas villages.

when we say 90% of our country is connected
we mean 90% is connected and the power is available to them.

no house gets connected without meter.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:22am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
When I say Nigeria is a zoo - It not something that I take lightly. I have carefully examined the facts. But i can change my mind if you can convince me that poverty capital is crawling out of the hole. I also honestly use to think Ghana was great - until KaziKazi jab about their shitty looking cities - jolted me. I only knew from background their trouble with Cedis and last IMF bailout. When I started researching - I was surprised this was 16th bailout. I was also very curiously aware of their 5yr re-basing.


ANyway I think Nigeria versus Kenya is done and dusted. We have loop so many times there is no new argument. It just repition after every 200 pages.

that'd d bone of contention here..... in ur vague mind, u think u're debunking whatever u concieve its debunkable with ur own version of stats.

Just goan answer call of the void jare.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:23am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
A truce for what?- there is no enmity that I harbor against Nigerians or Ghanaians or any other country - people shouldn't personalize facts about a country. We are here to debate who is better so hopefully someone can learn sometjhing. This is not an e-war.
Honest reply ... so don't be carried away emotionally when my reply get laced with insult and fact. I don't hide feelings for stupid responses.... but do as much as better to used your head instead of rely heavily on articule .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:28am On Nov 18, 2019
Which article is this that is making you lose your mind smiley I believe in empirical as opposed to anecdotal evidence? I can quote myself but that won't be helpful.
vaxx2:
Honest reply ... so don't be carried away emotionally when my reply get laced with insult and fact. I don't hide feelings for stupid responses.... but do as much as better to used your head instead of rely heavily on articule .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:34am On Nov 18, 2019
SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Just30 can you stop this immediately because it is not true. I think it is high time you stop attacking the Kenyans and see the Nigerians are the real enemies look what they did with the border. A lot of countries are losing millions of US dollar a day because of my Nigerian lazy Brothers
Oga go and sit down and find somewhere and die. Nobody is listing to your rubbish. You're not a Nigerian, you're a bombastic foolish kiberan skeleton grin grin fvck off dick head cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:39am On Nov 18, 2019
Basic 101 To SPOT COOKED DATA; TRY TO CROSS-REFERENCE and Then COMPARE WITH ADVANCED COUNTRIES i.e South Africa.

Let try Electricity in South Africa.

Total population is about 56M. Average family size is about 3.2 - south Africa roughly have 17.5M households.

How many customers does ESKOM have in South Africa 16.5M? Let us assume all these are households wink - we know huge part of these are office & industrial power.

What is their electricity access rate 16.5/17.5M =95% access rate? Based on this we now know roughly a million South Africa households don't have power...or 3 million people.

Now go and get the figure from South Africa Statistic offices. If the figure doesn't play around there - THEN SOMEBODY COOKING DATA.

COOKING DATA FOR POLITICIANS SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE FEEL GOOD FALSE IMPACT.

South Africa's electricity access rate is 86%
- Which is about right - if you consider those yet to be reached are rural communities with larger family sizes - than average family size of 1-2 in cities.

NOBODY CAN ACCUSE SOUTH AFRICA OF COOKING THEIR DATA. THEY CROSS-REFERENCE. KNBS also does cross-reference household survey data and what utility data says.

You cannot just publish CRAP LIKE NIGERIA DOES EVERYDAY. VERIFT VERIFT VERIFY

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 9:41am On Nov 18, 2019
Just30:
grin grin grin

everything outside Dar is a village

that is the definition of poor

how can you have a per capital as low as 700 dollars and be making noise around?



Tanzania has a gdp(nominal) per capita of 1050, you can clearly see this from the worldbank.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=TZ

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 9:42am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
Once you have IMF monkey off your back - come and tell us about your social services - otherwise, I imagine the first business when IMF have come (16 times) is to cut all those social spendings. Development can only happen when you sustain something for a generation or two.

In Kenya we have National Health Insurance fund - and we are also starting Universal Health Care - 4 counties were on pilot and It going national this year. Of course we have many private health insurance for middle class.

NHIF now covers well over 8M households - or about 30M people out of 47M. NHIF covers both outpatient and inpatient in both private, mission and public hospitals....coverage includes even cancer.

Now those 17M will be covered by Universal Health Care - basically they pay nothing in public hospitals.


You talk way of point , we have over the full capacity coverage ( that is about 30 million people) our health care system cover as much as brain surgery. we aren't joking boy,we even made it easy , registration can easily be done thru your smart phone.... we have digitized our health sector. largest blood drone delivery service in the world.... this is in the rural areas...

our 2018 financial budgetary estimates shows that the health budget is 6.57% of GDP, and therefore less than the 15% anticipated by the ""Abuja Declaration""( buy we have done better than many African state including ruwanda) our health sector, together with education, continue to be the two largest sectors of our public expenditure. we can only march north Africa in this regard....

With over GHS 19 billion which is roughly 5 billion dollar was spent last year on human assets just in the health sector. we don't joke here boy ...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 9:46am On Nov 18, 2019
Just30:
grin grin grin

everything outside Dar is a village

that is the definition of poor

how can you have a per capital as low as 700 dollars and be making noise around?



But the whole of Ghana is a village.

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