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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:20am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
Take a break and maybe your remaining two functional brains cells won't overheat.

South Africa's Eskom consumes 30,000MW of power. But here I am comparing number of customers. Eskom has about 17M customers on their grid. All the Ghanians electricity companies have about 4M. For you to reach South Africa level...you need to double your number to 8M....that will mean you have covered all 6.5M Ghanians in their homes..not just 3.7M...and also you have covered another 1.5M office, business and kiosks.

You're about half-way - at 55% - when you get universal access - come and we shall celebrate.

Kenya is ahead of you because - we are already at 8M customers - and we are adding nearly 1.5M annually - the WORLD FATESTES ELECTRIFICATION for some years now.

You have no data about the number of electricity rates Ghana is holding you dimwit. how so you question everything as if you are sound yourself.... we aren't on the same chatter of life with south africa , our industries are even not highly power consumable except the valco industries which generate its own power and consume more power than the nation kenya. you can draw from there ....

When you foolishly check the pattern of distribution, you will stupidly see it is growing and it's not changing any time soon . Thiat is if go school enough to understand table. arguing blindly...


in actuality , most of the power we generate are not consumed, though the distribution rate and consumption rate is growing, Firstly, there is excess electricity generation which was procured during the last regime from Independent Power Producers, including the Emergency Power Producers. Go read about it.

According to our Energy Commission, GHANA has installed power generation capacity of 5,083 MW, dependable capacity of 4,593 MW and peak demand of around 2,700 MW. So, our installed capacity is almost double our peak demand

so on average, less than 40 per cent of the contracted capacity is used, meaning that we are basically using 40 percent of the remaining 60 per cent of excess capacity which we do not actually consume.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:20am On Nov 18, 2019
That is good enough reason. That is better than denying the obvious like your fellow countryman Vax. What is double phase meters. In Kenya you can split a meter for multiple dwelling if they are I think some 70 feet max - but each house in say an apartment will get their own meter. Some landlords in low middle class - single rooms - can decide to have one meter - and charge rent inclusive a constant service charge...maybe that is 'double phase'?

We heard Ghana doesn't like such multiple dwelling smiley - they prefer to live in single bungalows - but now they have double phase meters?

Just30:
It simply means that more households are sharing their double phase meters
because there is not need buying meters for each house you share a compound with.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by GENEGIRIA: 11:22am On Nov 18, 2019
your stupidity is even more serious than I thought grin grin grin kenyans are fools without honour, walahi grin grin grin how can poverty drive you to share your wife with tourists grin grin grin see hos these hungry, starving fools are disgracing Africa grin grin grin grin
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rvp2018:
Ghana (according to official estimate) had 6.6M household in 2014 - so now I imagine the number has risen maybe to 8M - so your REAL TRUE electricity access is worse than I thought.

Page 5.
http://www.statsghana.gov.gh/gssmain/fileUpload/Living%20conditions/GLSS6_Main%20Report.pdf

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:23am On Nov 18, 2019
You keep raising tangential issues. We can talk about peak demand. I tell you subtract what goes to mining - and come - and we can discuss what really goes to you Mama's or Papa's house in Ghana. With all GOLD/Aluminium/Bauxite processing that goes on - you peak demand is now 2,500MW. If you remove roughly 1,000MW ( I am being super fair) - you peak demand for household is about 1500MW.
vaxx2:
You have no data about the number of electricity rates Ghana is holding you dimwit. how so you question everything as if you are sound yourself.... we aren't on the same chatter of life with south africa , our industries are even not highly power consumable except the valco industries which generate its own power and consume more power than the nation kenya. you can draw from there ....

When you foolishly check the pattern of distribution, youbwull stupidly sees it is growing and it's not changing any time soon . This is yoi go school enough to understand table. arguing blindly...


in actuality , most of the power we generate are not consumed, though the distribution rate and consumption rate is growing, Firstly, there is excess electricity generation which was procured during the last regime from Independent Power Producers, including the Emergency Power Producers. Go read about it.

According to our Energy Commission, GHANA has installed power generation capacity of 5,083 MW, dependable capacity of 4,593 MW and peak demand of around 2,700 MW. So, our installed capacity is almost double our peak demand

so on average, less than 40 per cent of the contracted capacity is used, meaning that we are basically using 40 percent of the remaining 60 per cent of excess capacity which we do not actually consume.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:24am On Nov 18, 2019
Shma:
just ignore those dudes(problem kid and the doomed one) they are criminals ,dump head grin


That is the nature of your road...see before now (before you came ) I user to screenshoted a month old video of upper-hill to post here and that is exactly what I produce..Ask gallivaNT and the rest, they used to cry then..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:25am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
Can somebody interpret your gibberish to me. How about you search in Google...Number of Households in Ghana. I use to think Ghanians had better brains...well turn out Nigerians are way better. I guess when you spend most of your childhood as famine refugee in Nigerian scavenging for food - you really couldn't read or write.

My friend - enrol yourself in your laughable - half-day school program aka ghana double track system smiley smiley - an afternoon of schooling will do you a lot of good.


Permit me to called you an idiot . if you failed to understand distribution ratio against the house hold pattern, how can you called yourself a software engineer? something went wrong while you are acquiring such degree, it might be bought or be favoured on you.


now take the chance of free education in Ghana which is not available in your village and harbour no discrimination to come better your life ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:29am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
But all your electricity distribution companies - household customers are 3.7M only - In a country with an estimated 6.5M HOUSEHOLDs. Ghana is about 29M people - with an average household having 4.5 people.

Now explain to me why your electricity distribution companies do not have at least 6.5m customers? Or there are people sharing meters?

Otherwise, the data from Ghana Energy Commission doesn't cross-reference with Ghana Statistics Office - alluding to cooking or simply wrongly methodology by your stats office.

http://www.energycom.gov.gh/files/ENERGY_STATISTICS_2019_Updated.pdf


Page 21:
Table 3.14: Grid Electricity Customer Population
Source: ECG/PDS, ENCLAVE POWER & NEDCo;

Contradicts Page 22.
Table 3.16: Electricity Access Rate (%)
Source : Ghana Statistical Services, Ministry of Energy and the Energy Commission.

Since we are breaking down the stats

the kinds of meters used in allows for sharing with at least four different houses in a parallel connection
that is for a single phase meter

whiles double phase or three-phase meters allow for more connections

No one needs different meters for their various houses that share the same compound especially when a meter is going for between 1000 and 2000 cedis for one phase meters.


so it is normal to have 6.6 million households and only 3.7 million of them with meters and 670,000 industrial users.
it doesnt make it less true that 90% of Ghanaian have access to electricity.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:31am On Nov 18, 2019
Problemkid1:
The criminals are your father's grin grin
e pain am tongue go rent your wife to your Indian master so that u go see money buy food chop grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:32am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
You keep raising tangential issues. We can talk about peak demand. I tell you subtract what goes to mining - and come - and we can discuss what really goes to you Mama's or Papa's house in Ghana. With all GOLD/Aluminium/Bauxite processing that goes on - you peak demand is now 2,500MW. If you remove roughly 1,000MW ( I am being super fair) - you peak demand for household is about 1500MW.
I have repeated this many times to you? our mining industry is not power consumable. it is underdeveloped. go CHECK on mining industry in Ghana and give us the actual figure ... even our bauxite has never been mined at industrial level. what we do here is local mining which the goverment is trying to modernise. you can't debate what is simply more than your wisdom ... who ever graduate You as a degree holder should be jailed . you dissapoint whatever is called education .


Ghana peak demand can be check on Ghana energy commission websites. you this dimwit. we aren't on the same track. compare kenya with valco an aluminium industry in Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:32am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


Shut up this is Ngongo road(a hoghway) ..we are talking about your shiity broken down road in upperhill.....

I spit on your zoo
You're pained grin. Your brother was posting 2013 pics and you really hyped the guy up but since you have been exposed you want to cover your face from shame, see your life dude? are finding it hard to accept that your roads are pathetic than ours so you can decipher with your fella and stop your debanking debate. You are now becoming boring and pathetic. angry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 11:33am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


Shut up this is Ngongo road(a hoghway) ..we are talking about your shiity broken down road in upperhill.....

I spit on your zoo
So now you know Nairobi better than me? grin grin grin Ngong` road is in upperhill just the same way Mombasa road is Nairobi.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:33am On Nov 18, 2019
Just30:
It simply means that more households are sharing their double phase meters
because there is not need buying meters for each house you share a compound with.



Hohohoho

Hahahaha my ribs

You said Ghanaians live in single houses now they are sharing meters

Anyway continue lying we are listening

Ghanaians live in mansions yet they use double phase meters wonders shall never end

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:34am On Nov 18, 2019
I am now beginning to understand your excitement on all the basic free social things. You see unlike most Africans who only remember IMF terror during SAP in 80s/90s (Structural Adjustment Prog) - you've been under 16 SAPS; Just imagine that. IMF has come 16 times and as always proposed austeristy measures that mean cutting back on budget spending on education, health, social welfare etc. Do you even have a functional social welfare? In kenya every 65 yr old get paid a monthly stipend, every disabled, every orphan, every hunger striken....and we do NOT HAVE IMF TELL US AUSTERITY SAP

Please enroll yourself in your laughable DOUBLE TRACK where kids go for schools for 3 months and another batch come in....why not build enough schools.

Opps I forget IMF IS IN TOWN.

vaxx2:
Permit me to called you an idiot . if you failed to understand distribution ratio against the house hold pattern, how can you called yourself a software engineer? something went wrong while you are acquiring such degree, it might be bought or be favoured on you.


now take the chance of free education in Ghana which is not available in your village and harbour no discrimination to come better your life ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:34am On Nov 18, 2019
Just30:
It simply means that more households are sharing their double phase meters
because there is not need buying meters for each house you share a compound with.



Hohohoho

Hahahaha my ribs

You said Ghanaians live in single houses now they are sharing meters

Anyway continue lying we are listening

Ghanaians live in mansions yet they use double phase meters wonders shall never end .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:37am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


Shut up this is Ngongo road(a hoghway) ..we are talking about your shiity broken down road in upperhill.....

I spit on your zoo
.

That same road has been reconstructed look for something else to cling on
What is ngongo road anyway there is no road in Kenya called ngongo road

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:37am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
Basic 101 To SPOT COOKED DATA; TRY TO CROSS-REFERENCE and Then COMPARE WITH ADVANCED COUNTRIES i.e South Africa.

Let try Electricity in South Africa.

Total population is about 56M. Average family size is about 3.2 - south Africa roughly have 17.5M households.

How many customers does ESKOM have in South Africa 16.5M? Let us assume all these are households wink - we know huge part of these are office & industrial power.

What is their electricity access rate 16.5/17.5M =95% access rate? Based on this we now know roughly a million South Africa households don't have power...or 3 million people.

Now go and get the figure from South Africa Statistic offices. If the figure doesn't play around there - THEN SOMEBODY COOKING DATA.

COOKING DATA FOR POLITICIANS SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE FEEL GOOD FALSE IMPACT.

South Africa's electricity access rate is 86%
- Which is about right - if you consider those yet to be reached are rural communities with larger family sizes - than average family size of 1-2 in cities.

NOBODY CAN ACCUSE SOUTH AFRICA OF COOKING THEIR DATA. THEY CROSS-REFERENCE. KNBS also does cross-reference household survey data and what utility data says.

You cannot just publish CRAP LIKE NIGERIA DOES EVERYDAY. VERIFT VERIFT VERIFY
except SA family unit is more of an individualistic kind of living

communal living is what Ghana have
whereby the family setting is not individualistic

so your analogy does work here. grin grin grin grin



the communities left for Ghana to connect are either border towns or island communities
and those provisions where made in our 2020 budget.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 11:37am On Nov 18, 2019
Shma:
Nairobi traffic jam.


cheesy cheesy cheesy

So traffic jam too is a sign of development cheesy?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 11:38am On Nov 18, 2019
vaxx2:
Now explain this madness now....

Consumption rate of electricity is not about the number of people consuming it but the rate at which the number of people consuming it -

Arrghh, nigga enough!For your own sake STFU already! Here's a saying for you and your mental agemates :"Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought a f00l than to speak and remove all doubt."

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:38am On Nov 18, 2019
1,000MW I am quoting is what you told me the Aluminimum processing gets. I was willing to take you on your highest despite your lack of good reputation. Honestly considering how you hurl the most tasteless of insults I should have known better. Your next assignment is to make your base insults a little cerebral. You'll get a lot more respect here.
vaxx2:
I have repeated this many times to you? our mining industry is not power consumable. it is underdeveloped. go CHECK on mining industry in Ghana and give us the actual figure ... even our bauxite has never been mined at industrial level. what we do here is local mining which the goverment is trying to modernise. you can't debate what is simply more than your wisdom ... who ever graduate Yorubas degree holder should be jailed . you dissapoint whatever is called education .


Ghana peak demand can be check on Ghana energy commission websites. you this dimwit. we aren't on the same track. compare kenya with valco an aluminium industry in Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:38am On Nov 18, 2019
Acadavah:


Tanzania has a gdp(nominal) per capita of 1050, you can clearly see this from the worldbank.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=TZ
thats the definition of a low income economy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:39am On Nov 18, 2019
kikuyu1:


Arrghh, nigga enough!For your own sake STFU already! Here's a saying for you and your mental agemates :"Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought a f00l than to speak and remove all doubt."
fence sitter . happy fooling yourself. can you string two argument together
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:40am On Nov 18, 2019
Acadavah:


But the whole of Ghana is a village.

hehehe

congrats on winning the fooleries prize

grin grin grin grin


your country is a big refugee concentration camp

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:41am On Nov 18, 2019
Wuoche:
So now you know Nairobi better than me? grin grin grin Ngong` road is in upperhill just the same way Mombasa road is Nairobi.


Even waiyaki way is being reconstructed
Western bypass
Mombasa road all the way to machakos junction .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:42am On Nov 18, 2019
samorobo:


And you are the idiot...Both pics habour the same useless road..The only difference was that the Google image focus on the street view which is the road while yours focus on the building and barely showed the road...zoom closely and see that they are both the same road...
He can deceive his useless zoo country men who rent their wives to foreigners grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:44am On Nov 18, 2019
popizaino:



cheesy cheesy cheesy

So traffic jam too is a sign of development cheesy?

Not really grin. Are you seeing how beautiful Nai is.? smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:45am On Nov 18, 2019
That makes some sense. Any picture of those communal houses? How does that work? You get one community meter?
Just30:
except SA family unit is more of an individualistic kind of living

communal living is what Ghana have
whereby the family setting is not individualistic

so your analogy does work here. grin grin grin grin



the communities left for Ghana to connect are either border towns or island communities
and those provisions where made in our 2020 budget.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:46am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
The insult per word ratio is coming down - keep it up. Your NHIS covers only 2% of the poor and 36% of current health expenditure is out of pocket.

As you can see you have a long way to go - because our NHIF which allows you to be treated in decent private & mission hospitals - already covers roughly 30M Kenyans.

Now, the 17M mostly poor kenyans have to pay out of pocket - and we are fixing that with Universal Health Care - meaning if you're so poor to go to public hospitals.

Now I got an article for you - dated 2019.

https://www.sightsavers.org/blogs/2019/08/universal-health-coverage-ghana-how-can-we-really-make-progress/
The NHIS was introduced to curb high user fees and their effect on the poorest people in rural and working environments. After more than a decade of implementation, it is estimated that less than two per cent of the poor are covered, and people with disabilities – many of whom are among the poorest of the poor – do not have any special provisions under the scheme. It is not surprising that about 36 per cent of current health expenditure is out-of-pocket payment.


keep post blogs grin grin grin grin

this is their website
http://www.nhis.gov.gh/about.aspx

you'll get the number of people on the scheme
grin grin grin grin grin
i dont want you to keep making a fool out of yourself
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:47am On Nov 18, 2019
GENEGIRIA:

your stupidity is even more serious than I thought grin grin grin kenyans are fools without honour, walahi grin grin grin how can poverty drive you to share your wife with tourists grin grin grin see hos these hungry, starving fools are disgracing Africa grin grin grin grin
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Kenyans are shameless animals grin after renting their wretched wives to tourists they will still come here to make noise.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx2: 11:48am On Nov 18, 2019
rvp2018:
I am now beginning to understand your excitement on all the basic free social things. You see unlike most Africans who only remember IMF terror during SAP in 80s/90s (Structural Adjustment Prog) - you've been under 16 SAPS; Just imagine that. IMF has come 16 times and as always proposed austeristy measures that mean cutting back on budget spending on education, health, social welfare etc. Do you even have a functional social welfare? In kenya every 65 yr old get paid a monthly stipend, every disabled, every orphan, every hunger striken....and we do NOT HAVE IMF TELL US AUSTERITY SAP

Please enroll yourself in your laughable DOUBLE TRACK where kids go for schools for 3 months and another batch come in....why not build enough schools.

Opps I forget IMF IS IN TOWN.

You suffer beyond inferiority complex. The basic cognitive prerequisite to engage in factual debate seems beyond your intellectual circumference.

We're talking about Electicity rate as a standard in determining of infracture and you're yapping IMF . Unbalanced patriotism has damaged your sense of reasoning. IMF works in Ghana just as it is currently working in Egypt. Double track works in Ghana just as it works in Austria and Netherlands and regarding schools, we have built what you were unable to built in the last four years

The sheer length of your meaningless doodles only prove how desperate you are trying to prove yourself. But you ended up sounding like an ill-exposed anencephalic dingbat from kenya


Ghana Cocoa export for a year will generate what you make on tea export for three years and more...


now feed your eyes on what type of school we built...... over 100 of it were built last three years and more than 30 of them have been built this year alone ....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:50am On Nov 18, 2019
Put the numbers here. Sound argumentation 101. What kind of schools do you guys go to? I have been to many Kenya forums - I have never seen people as dense as the west Africans here. Well, I exaggerated, of course, we have our poorly educated Tanzanians.
Just30:
keep post blogs grin grin grin grin

this is their website
http://www.nhis.gov.gh/about.aspx

you'll get the number of people on the scheme
grin grin grin grin grin
i dont want you to keep making a fool out of yourself

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:50am On Nov 18, 2019
popizaino:



I guess you have also been to Accra to ascertain that most of the streets and houses looks like what you posted? cheesy

Unless google maps is lying.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:50am On Nov 18, 2019
tylann:


You don't get it
In Kenya supermarkets are everywhere that is where people shop daily for foodstuffs and confectioneries

People go to shopping malls to buy expensive stuff and have a good time

You say your are rich but rich guys don't shop in shacks and open air markets
grin grin grin grin


expensive stuff ?
with what money?

you mean, your LORDS go to shop for stuffs?
no one goe to a shopping mall to get expensive stuff

we already have shops selling those expensive stuffs

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