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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:19pm On Nov 19, 2019
20% poverty and 12.5% extreme poverty. 28% children live in poverty. That is Ghana. And it probably cooked. Kenya as of 5yrs ago - poverty was 35% with extreme poverty at 20% - and were reducing significantly.

Statistics show one in five Ghanaians live in poverty and one in eight live in extreme poverty. Alston says he finds it particularly troubling that 28 percent of children live in poverty.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/millions-poor-not-benefiting-ghanas-booming-economy

vaxx1:
lol....Dream on with your 20 million poverty injected population...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 4:22pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
20% poverty and 12.5% extreme poverty. 28% children live in poverty. That is Ghana.
Statistics show one in five Ghanaians live in poverty and one in eight live in extreme poverty. Alston says he finds it particularly troubling that 28 percent of children live in poverty.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/millions-poor-not-benefiting-ghanas-booming-economy

Aren't you ashamed to post this. 12.5 percent against 40 percent of those poor Kenyans.. ...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:23pm On Nov 19, 2019
Jonraid:
How many Uber drivers are there in Nigeria? Uber or any decent car hailing app industry can't take you in with such a taxi! rvp20182

It is not safe to hire an uber car in Nigeria because the driver might Rob you. Business District new multipurpose shopping centre called independence Plaza

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:24pm On Nov 19, 2019
GENEGIRIA:

very stvpid people-clueless kenyans. i didn'r realise kenyan was such a backward sh1thole grin grin grin a stvpid kikuyu will always remain foolish. they don't see beyond mt kenya grin grin grin
[s][/s]
grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:24pm On Nov 19, 2019
it's 20% against 36% (normal poverty aka international 1.9 dollars a day). Extreme poverty is like 12% against 20%(that like a dollar a day a person). And Kenya is making serious progress...latest data was in 2016... with census...we will get new numbers.
vaxx1:
Aren't ashamed to post this. 12.5 percent against 40 percent of those poor Kenyans.. ...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:25pm On Nov 19, 2019
Kennyswagzz:
while lagos state is better than the whole of ghana
KEEP DREAMING
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:26pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
Doesn't look it can process even 0.5% of 2.5 Metric tonnes. For context the largest rice mill in the world has capacity of 4m metric tonnes.

An aerial view of Bogasari’s flour mill in Jakarta, Indonesia

Olam rice mills factory-(Largest in Africa)

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:26pm On Nov 19, 2019
Actually correction - Extreme poverty in Kenya - lower than Ghana.

Extreme poverty, defined as monthly household expenditure below 1,954 shillings in rural areas and 2,551 shillings in urban areas, fell from 19.6 percent in 2005/6 to 8.6 percent in 2015/16.

https://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN1GZ0TK-OZATP

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:27pm On Nov 19, 2019
It looks like the multi-purpose independence Plaza was my last picture for today is one of the best shopping centres in Nigeria where you can find things for a reasonable price and get buk for your money
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:28pm On Nov 19, 2019
mtisTheQubit:
effed country undecided
THIS same discussion is being had in the US
As long as prostitution is a trade, then it should be legalized so that the government can tax it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:28pm On Nov 19, 2019
And it has an annual capacity of 150,000 tonnes. That is why you should be careful with numbers. 2.5M metric tonnes is a lot of rice. You put a rickety mill that has capacity of 50 tonnes a day...and claim it will do 2.5m metric tonnes. I have maize milling plant with 20 tonnes per day capacity so I know BS when I see.
68816419:

Olam rice mills factory-(Largest in Africa)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:30pm On Nov 19, 2019
mtisTheQubit:
IMF colony..
still not a problem

when it becomes a problem
we will handle it.


how many Albinoes have you murdered this year in Tanzania

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:30pm On Nov 19, 2019
Maili Tisa junction on the outskirts of Eldoret Town,after a temporary halt....it looks like the cloverleaf interchange is taking shape again!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:32pm On Nov 19, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

Vaxx you niggas know nothing about IMF..Why do you think many countries avoid them...you are new in the game...

yet still we are way developed than you

our people aint as poor as you.


life must really be fu+cked up in your shithole

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:33pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
When Ghana is poorer than Kenya - how would Ashanti be richer?

Dangote syndrome. Let the masses eat cake!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:33pm On Nov 19, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

IMF used threaten us way back...we cut loose an faced east..things are great now...
grin grin grin grin

things are great with 700 dollars per capital ?

grin grin grin grin

that is poverty

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 4:33pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
it's 20% against 36% (normal poverty aka international 1.9 dollars a day). Extreme poverty is like 12% against 20%(that like a dollar a day a person). And Kenya is making serious progress...latest data was in 2016... with census...we will get new numbers.
It still dosnt make a diffrence. you're more poorer grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 4:35pm On Nov 19, 2019
MtisTheQubit are you a Tanzanian?
Just30:
still not a problem

when it becomes a problem
we will handle it.


how many Albinoes have you murdered this year in Tanzania

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 4:36pm On Nov 19, 2019
Just30:
THIS same discussion is being had in the US
As long as prostitution is a trade, then it should be legalized so that the government can tax it.
It is even taxed in swizz with goverment providing mobile hotel room for sex workers.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:36pm On Nov 19, 2019
mtisTheQubit:

Truth be told, since Chinese landed in Africa you can see progress...I myself can say much progress occurred in our country after we divorced the IMF an her sister grin
so with all the progress you are claiming

your per capital is comparable with Liberia
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:39pm On Nov 19, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Why was the Ghanaian president assassinated?
which Ghanaian president are you referring to?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:41pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
Quote of the day for poor Ghanaian CEDIS.

The vice President, H.E Dr Mahamudu Bawumia is famously reported to have said that “when the economic fundamentals are weak, the cedi depreciation will expose you

And Just30 - Ghanian currency is managed float regime- not free floating.
He is in government now and has realised the cedi depreciation is not because of fundamentals

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:43pm On Nov 19, 2019
Just30:
which Ghanaian president are you referring to?

The Tanzanians have been posting it here, are you blind?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:47pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
And it has an annual capacity of 150,000 tonnes. That is why you should be careful with numbers. 2.5M metric tonnes is a lot of rice. You put a rickety mill that has capacity of 50 tonnes a day...and claim it will do 2.5m metric tonnes. I have maize milling plant with 20 tonnes per day capacity so I know BS when I see.

Imota Rice Mill to employ 26,800 Lagosians, targets 2.8m bags of 50kg bags of rice per annum



Lagos State Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu on Thursday defied the downpour to inspect the Rice Mill and Industrial Park project being developed by the state government at Imota in Ikorodu Division of the state.

The inspection tour of the project site, Gov. Sanwo-Olu said, is in fulfillment of his promise to continue all unfinished projects initiated by previous administrations. The Governor was joined on the inspection by his Deputy, Dr. Obafemi Hamzat, and Head of Service, Mr. Hakeem Muri-Okunola.

Sanwo-Olu said the visit was to assess the progress of the project and also to get the contractor’s confidence on the completion date.

Describing the project as “capital intensive and strategic”, the Governor said the rice mill would be the biggest in the country when completed. The project, he said, is being built with a capacity to produce 32 metric tons of rice per hour and 2.8 million bags of 50kg bags of rice per annum. grin

He said: “The tour of the project site is another pointer to our pledge of continuity in governance. We are taking the pain to come down to Imota to assess the magnitude of the rice mill and industrial park project initiated by my predecessors. This is a 32-metric tons per hour rice mill, which is the biggest in the country. In terms of national importance, the rice mill is expected to meet 15 to 20 per cent of national demand for rice.”

After touring the project site, the Governor expressed satisfaction on the level of work done by the contractor, but said a lot of work still needed to be done. He assured that the contractor would be kept on site to ensure timely completion.

The Governor said: “By the end of this year, we should see the first phase of the project completed. It is not for us to just have the biggest rice mill, but to also begin a conversation with rice producers in rural areas to have massive cultivation and production through the mill.

“The mill is being built with a capacity to store up to 36 months of hundreds of thousands of rice bags. We have studied the entire value chain and we are speaking to other stakeholders to ensure this project, when completed, can galvanise people towards the objective of President Muhammadu Buhari, which is developing local capacity towards boosting agriculture and feeding the nation from local produce.”

When completed, the mill and industrial park are projected to generate over 1,500 direct jobs, while 254,000 indirect jobs were also expected to be created in the value chain.

The light industrial park on the project site, Sanwo-Olu said, is being built by the Ministry of Commerce and Industry to boost small and medium scale businesses around the axis. The Governor said the park would have amenities that would make businesses to thrive and bring returns on investment to business owners.

Managing Director of CIBA Construction Company Limited – the contractor handling the project – Mr Josiah Samuel assured the Governor of the firm’s commitment to the agreed completion date, disclosing that the firm was re-mobilised back on 12 months ago.

Samuel said: “As at today, the Industrial Park is in over 60 per cent completion stage. But, the rice mill is being put together. There are different components of the rice mill. We are done with entire piling work; we have had to sink 700 piles on the site. The substructure of the mill is completed

“There are 16 silos to be constructed on the rice mill site, but the substructures of the six of the silos have been completed. We expect that before the end of 2019, this facility should be up and running.”

The contractor said weather was the main challenge it was facing in the construction work, promising that the firm would keep to completion date.

The twin project is being jointly built by the Ministries of Agriculture, and Commerce and Industry. The rice mill sits on 8.5 hectres out of the 26 Hectres developed for the entire project. The construction works are supervised by the Ministry of Works.


http://naija247news.com/2019/07/05/sanwo-olu-imota-rice-mill-to-employ-26800-lagosians-targets-2-8m-bags-of-50kg-bags-of-rice-per-annum/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:47pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:

Not only is your regime managed - you have tonnes of forex controls.

According to IMF 2018

Country1 Exchange Restrictions and/or Multiple Currency Practices2
Ghana The IMF staff report for the 2017 Article IV Consultation, Fourth Review under the Extended Credit Facility
Arrangement, Request for Waiver for Nonobservance of Performance Criteria, and Request for Extension
and Rephasing of the Arrangement with Ghana states that, as of August 3, 2017, Ghana maintained one
exchange restriction and an MCP subject to Fund approval. The exchange restriction arose from the limitation/
prohibition on purchasing and transferring foreign exchange for import transactions by importers who have
not submitted to the commercial bank customs entry forms for any past foreign exchange transactions related
to imports, and which are unrelated to the underlying transaction. An MCP also arises because the Bank of
Ghana requires the use of its internal rate (i.e., the previous day’s weighted average interbank exchange rate) for
government transactions and the surrender of foreign exchange proceeds from cocoa exports funded through
the cocoa syndicated loan, without having a mechanism in place to ensure that, at the time of the transaction,
this exchange rate does not differ from the rate prevailing in the market rate (i.e., the interbank exchange rate)
and the rates u

see this kid ooo

so the central bank waiting for more foreign exchange to arrive from Ghana export commodities , you think this is kenya grin grin grin grin


your education is lacking.

a free-float basically means
rates are determined by demand and supply.

where does the supply comes from?
Exports

where does the demand comes from
import

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:51pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
We do not have any forex controls (you can bring or take as much as dollars as you want) - and our CBK doesn't print USD - so how can we managed to artificially inflate Kshs? If Ghana cannot do it - how can Kenya do it with even less forex reserves.

IMF were wrong - and used Kenya as guinea pig in a new methodology.

by simply borrowing to support the kshs

and that was what the IMF was talking about

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:56pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
When did we refuse for them or anybody out there to come and value KShs smiley. They put Kshs to scale - their own brand new scale - and said it was over-valued - we are still waiting for Kshs to heed to IMF - it seem defiant.

CBK cannot release market-sensitive data - We are not an IMF colony like Ghana.

IMF had said that the Kenyan shilling risks being classified as “managed” rather than operating on demand and supply.
“Reflecting limited movement of the shilling relative to the US dollar, MCM’s (Monetary and Capital Markets’) 2018 report on exchange rate arrangement to be published in February 2018 will reclassify Kenya’s shilling from ‘floating’ to ‘other managed arrangement’,” said IMF. Njoroge said CBK would only release data if it was no longer market-sensitive, adding that this was a global practice.
We do not comment on currency interventions until we judge that it is no longer market-sensitive. Check anywhere, the Bank of England, check how much information they reveal ” he said.

The governor added that the interventions were not done with “favourite players in the dark”, but rather during open market operations with banks, which knew whenever CBK intervened.
He also added that Kenya was an open economy with no controls over current or capital accounts.
The Central Bank, the governor said, operated a flexible forex market that did not target any particular rate but allowed the market to price it.


https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001304396/njoroge-tells-off-imf-over-shilling-value

you are a debt colony in a bubble at it limit

get ready for the implosion grin grin grin



your SGR cant pay the loan it was built with
neither can your revenue

Are you going to be borrowing 34.3 billion shillings starting next year to service your principal payment to China .

i have my milkshake and popcorn in hand observing the horror movie unveiling in kenya grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:57pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
it's 20% against 36% (normal poverty aka international 1.9 dollars a day). Extreme poverty is like 12% against 20%(that like a dollar a day a person). And Kenya is making serious progress...latest data was in 2016... with census...we will get new numbers.


kenya poverty rate is 29.2 %


https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299505/wb-report-poverty-still-high-in-kenya
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 4:57pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
Forex dealers are in kenya are regulated to protect consumers, ensure they are no illicit flows or money laundering. There are no Forex controls.Those two are not mutually exclusive. There is nothing you can teach me in any serious subject - except maybe Yoruba customs & voodoo.
what is your understanding of forex control

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 5:00pm On Nov 19, 2019
Just30:
what is your understanding of forex control
I stop the debate when I saw his deficiency in that area...blame kenya education

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 5:01pm On Nov 19, 2019
tylann:


kenya poverty rate is 29.2 %


https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299505/wb-report-poverty-still-high-in-kenya
stop throwing up blogs. even the blogs says poverty "" still high in kenya""
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 5:01pm On Nov 19, 2019
rvp20182:
It helps our Central Bank Governor is former senior staffer at the IMF so he understands when junior economist send to kenya tries their monkey business. In any case when is KSHs devaluing?- it been nearly two years since IMF claimed it was overvalued?

Yes kenya has Africa highest trade deficit of 11B dollars...but trade is not only way to get dollars. When you have an well-diversified sophisticated economy like kenya - you do not need to export Gold or Oil to earn Forex. We earn lots of Forex from 'exportable' services sectors.

We have very healthy forex reserves - playing around 6 months of import bill - 9B dollars - way above the recommended 4 months cover.

which economy are you referring to as a well-diversified economy?

Kenya has no productive capacity

where will forex come from apart from tourism ?
Last year, you earned 1.5 billion dollars from tourism

500 million less than what Ghana earned


your economy is funny and filled with fraud everywhere grin grin grin

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