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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by ejimatic: 8:28am On Nov 21, 2019 |
opportunes:. Federal Govt is your employer and it reserves the right to determine how you are to be paid... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by mechanics(m): 8:31am On Nov 21, 2019 |
ambu2:lolz, you like strike o. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by alcapone662: 8:33am On Nov 21, 2019 |
ASUU WHAT EVER YOUR PEOPLE CALL URSELF BETTER DO WHAT MR PRESIDENT HAD SAID (BUHAIR ) BUNCH OF THIEVES |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by israelmao(m): 8:43am On Nov 21, 2019 |
0monnak0da: They are employees of FG and it has deemed it fit to start with public universities.Those lecturers have skeletons in their cupboards because many of them are part-time or full-time lecturers to other universities apart from universities where they are originally or legally employed and they know the implications of IPPIS. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Emceesaka: 8:44am On Nov 21, 2019 |
ASUU is bunch of stupid and greedy set of people, in as much as I don't President Muhammad Buhari since he resume Office does not say I should not say the truth. My question is Why is ASUU afraid of joining IPPIS? Awon werey lecturers everywhere |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Nobody: 8:45am On Nov 21, 2019 |
h imagine these ones baboons who ASUU epp if you pass through our university system you'll know its full of shit because they always go unchecked if to say they to be resolved I'll be very happy small time because of ordinary speck wey go enter lecturer eye boom the whole nation is on strike they don't even bother about the student for they are there not for the passion but for the money they think they can do what they like ask any sug official he'll tell you they ain't the one ruling they are mere puppets set their by these tabularasas to extort money from the gullible us they have no any idea on globalization if you study a course in a university and your bro study same course in another you'll find out that what you guys were taught ain't the same yet we ain't complaining, still these same idiots will device new policies which are not in any way in our favor yet no one is complaining and my last message to you is these same politicians you're saying found our university unworthy to attend by the offspring,I can't seems to remember any politician saying so but I can remember you traveling out to celebrate your son's convocation in a far away land when you the top boss because you know you're running a failed system which you ain't there to mend but to mash up a long as your pocket is running |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by 0monnak0da: 8:51am On Nov 21, 2019 |
israelmao:You are engaging in debate I asked you a very simple question They are Not employees of the FG That is not true Rather than argue educate yourselves and familiarize yourself with LAW There were and are many entities which the FG owned and owns e.g NEPA, NNPC to name a few Their employees are not employees of the federal government IN LAW The FG Gazetted a Universities Autonomy Law. Go and study it I assume you attended university So apply the skills you learnt there to arm yourself with facts before arguing blindly |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Babaken(m): 9:04am On Nov 21, 2019 |
When the wind of buhari harsh economy get to yourside then you will know he is a dictator. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by dayowunmi(m): 9:14am On Nov 21, 2019 |
0monnak0da:Can you just stop rhetorising about the Law? Or just State what the law says then! An employer choses the modalities for which the employee is paid. Its not the business of the courts or parliament to dictate how employer pays inasmuch as he doesn't default in payment. FG gazetted University autonomy law you said, even if they did, it does not mean anything cos if am not mistaken, a gazette can be overturned if its deemed unreasonable based on current circumstances. Moreover you can be drawing salary and administrative funding from a body you are claiming autonomy from. You claimed the person you quoted is arguing blindly but your own rebuttals carry little weight. If the IPPIS move of the FG is against the law then ASUU should go to the court! Their case should be easy since they claimed it is against the law. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by 0monnak0da: 9:15am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Really disappointing that many so called graduates cannot reason properly,cannot separate emotions and sentiment from rationality. Whether or not you agree with IPPIS is not really the issue here. The issue is due process and rule of law. In analysing any issue the starting point is to seek FACTS If you have not learnt how to do this and rely instead on instinct and feeling then I am sorry if you went to university you wasted your time and have not learnt how to reason properly This issue is not as complex as some make it out to be. Whether lecturers are greedy, Homosexual, or ungodly is not the issue. What are the rules of engagement. What does the law say? On Autonomy? On IPPIS? If you have no clue to these questions and you are voicing strong opinion then on what basis are you doing this? Kind of like a judge convicting a person because he "looks guilty" 1 Like |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by ekhai(m): 9:16am On Nov 21, 2019 |
efighter:WHY IS ASUU REJECTING IPPIS? THAT MEANS THERE'S SOMETHING SMOKING UNDER THE PREVIOUS PAY SYSTEM. ASUU SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED. I STAND WITH BUHARI. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by goshen26: 9:20am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Baba should stop their salary with immediate alacrity. All these cold room lecturers only know how to sleep with our girls, make simple university edu to be tough. Most of them, apart from their bogus salary still lectures in more than one institutions. They lecture in private uni and poly, leaving their students to read and pass on their own. PMB, I am not ur fan Sir, but on this you are mouthed Sir... Awon cold room lecturers |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by 0monnak0da: 9:25am On Nov 21, 2019 |
dayowunmi: Who is the Employer and Employee here? An Employer "chooses the modalities for which employee is paid" (sic) Is that in the bible or Quran? You just made that one up because it sounds good to you but is there any other basis for that claim? Yes you are mistaken I said they gazetted a law It is a LAW and MUST be complied with UNTIL it changes. I do not know what you mean by "gazette" (NOUN) I used the word as a verb. ALL laws are gazetted(verb) Not all gazettes(noun) are laws The Autonomy law was made specifically to remove Universities from Civil Service regulations University lecturers are not "Employees of the government " The government cannot just wake up one day and say we should start driving on the Left side of the road. They have to CHANGE the law I do not agree or disagree with the change but it must follow the rule of law I am sure we will see court cases when the time come |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Khalidase83(m): 9:28am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Employee be detating to employer. Ippis is a must. Bunch of corrupt teachers. Nonsense! |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by CrazyMan(m): 10:03am On Nov 21, 2019 |
SalamRushdie:Not when there's a documented policy which was signed by them saying otherwise. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Nobody: 10:08am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Late Ojukwu was a selfish man who wanted to head the country by any means. Stop re-writing the Nigerian history. Nigerians being docile... You're spot on on that one. Nigerians are not just docile, many of those with access to internet subscription have IQs lower than average human beings, ready to believe any propaganda... Give Nigerians a piece of fake news, or satire, in few days you'll find it on every media and in every religious house as a preaching point. But take their freedom away along with their future, they will promptly hail you as the messiah that has come to cure our corruption. We Nigerians are blinded by hatred and envy. The jobless ones consider those with jobs as their enemies. It is the turn of the lecturers now, and my country men are all up against them because they think lecturers make a hell lot of money. Like I said, low IQ is a dangerous thing. It prevents you objectively assessing facts to arrive at sensible inferences and conclusions. Next it will be the turn of medical doctors, because jobless and impoverished Nigerians believe they make too much money. All the government needs to do is to play to this generalized hatred and envy, and we all forget the kind of game this particular government has grown fond of. It is called divide and rule, divide and conquer. Nigerians are not just hateful and envious, they are also hypocritical. Those same Nigerians (lecturers, doctors, etc) that we hate, are the same people most of us want to be like. Go and check the job and admission queues. If it is indeed true that lecturers are holding two/multiple jobs illegally, what is stopping the government from setting EFCC after those individuals? Please do not tell me that the government doesn't have such records, for then it will be tantamount to the worst kind of irresponsibility for a government to make allegation without facts. But, the government indeed has no evidence to back this up. Once again, ASUU has never been in charge of employment or salaries, University administrations are, and these individuals are directly responsible to the government. What does the government have to hide by refusing to perfect the grey areas in the IPPIS before migrating the lecturers? No government, Spatta: |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by SalamRushdie: 10:09am On Nov 21, 2019 |
CrazyMan: Ohh they already signed ? Damn |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by jmaine: 10:12am On Nov 21, 2019 |
goshen26: Highlight the bogus salary Federal Universities lecturers are paid? 1 Like |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by BotherMleeper(m): 10:48am On Nov 21, 2019 |
ibnlawal: Why is it that every single anti-buhari cretin is dumb and stupid? |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by dayowunmi(m): 10:50am On Nov 21, 2019 |
0monnak0da:Okay. Good luck 1 Like |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Wallade(m): 10:53am On Nov 21, 2019 |
0monnak0da: Interesting! I want to join this discuss. May I ask you 0monnak0da: Who is the employer of the lecturers? Who owns and funds the federal Institutions of learning? Can you explain the autonomy granted the universities and higher institutions under law? Does the autonomy cover funding? Even donors that give grants mandate the grant administrator to open a specific account for managing and expending the fund without mixing it with other funds. Donors require periodic accounting to retire and detail the expenditure in line with the budget. Donors can authorise an audit and query of the grant administrator's account in respect to the fund granted. Donors even want to know all administrative staff that are paid salary on the project. They wanna confirm that payment move from that account to the account of the vendors and staff that are duly paid on that project as per the budget. Oga, I really want you to clarify the autonomy: does it cover remuneration of staff of the higher institutions and funding? 1 Like |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by lukui: 11:02am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Does three tiers of government (executive, legislature and judiciary) mean anything to you? May be you need a government or civic teacher. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Samsonteejay(m): 11:03am On Nov 21, 2019 |
make dem no talk ooo, no be there member dey announce election results? so make them chill Wat they announced |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by goshen26: 11:08am On Nov 21, 2019 |
jmaine: It is either you are a lecturer or you benefit from them... How many civil servant earn as much as they earn? How many of the attend lectures as they suppose? How many of them can be bold to say he/she is up to date? All they know is COLD ROOM our girls, make life dfficult for students on campus... 1 Like |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Wettoid123: 11:15am On Nov 21, 2019 |
ASUU have skeleton under their cupboard why are you people afraid to join ippis cos you are all dubious a lecturer will be teaching in more than three university collecting money from different areas all these has to stop,,ASUU should better join ippis for transperency. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by 0monnak0da: 11:16am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Wallade:First ask whether my own employer would be happy for me to spend HIS time answering YOUR questions Put me o your IPPIS system so that I can spend my day answering all your queries The law is not a secret It is online Read it . If you cannot comprehend search diligently for an intelligent neighbour or family member to explain it to you |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Jung(m): 11:16am On Nov 21, 2019 |
donvicky2007: Could you possibly hit your head against something to juggle your thought and perhaps remind you that a lot of masters and PhD holders dont want to go into academics? Just a light tap on the head. Or use a stick please. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by jmaine: 11:34am On Nov 21, 2019 |
goshen26: Stop all this your noise and answer the simple question... How much is the salary of lecturer? |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Nobody: 11:41am On Nov 21, 2019 |
0monnak0da: It is game over for you and your fellow ASUU members. You people shout autonomy but can't generate 50 kobo to run your universities. You hypocrites call Buhari a dictator but victimize innocent students daily. Like Lecturers like touts. 1 Like |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by musulumi(m): 11:44am On Nov 21, 2019 |
It's you and your friend you quoted that should be disallowed from using keypads because it's obvious you don't understand a thing about writing. Go to the comedy section and enjoy yourself, leave here for the intellects to interact peacefully. Jung: |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by Wallade(m): 11:46am On Nov 21, 2019 |
0monnak0da: My sentiments exactly, you are one of those people talking university autonomy in the case of remuneration process without a proper understanding of university autonomy as provided by the law. You have the time to type long epistle and when your level of information is queried, you find a convenient excuse of your employer's time and being busy. Your type of lecturers are the ones we are trying to retire from the industry: the type of lecturers that would rather have students go searching, reading and worrying without giving directions and teaching. You just come to the class and lounge, when questioned you rather find the convenient excuse that students should go research. |
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Says Buhari Is Becoming Dictatorial by 0monnak0da: 11:49am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Xda59:lol Guy I am not even in Nigeria . I am abroad in Togo ![]() I am not opposed to the change. I do not support it either What I have heard is the government's side and ASUU's side Knowing Nigeria I can predict this will lead to another round of strikes that affect poor people I am more interested in due process and rule of law. I am not one of those who believes that a "good objective" is what pursuing by any means. Universities are key to national development and this is an avoidable crisis What happens in civilized places is public debate and compromise If the government is smart then that way they can win the argument in the court of public opinion Not everything needs aggression/ There is still space for a Win-win You need to learn not to personalize things |
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