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I been no wan talk before... But at this point... I need to share to some ghost reader that'll be needing this sometime in the future.

I'll be starting a new role on Monday... Dream job that comes with all the PERKS of a big company downtown OTTAWA.

It wasn't easy, I'll be honest but plenty observation and work got me in... and if you ask me... Most of them follow me come from Nigeria.

Unlike most people... I had no friends and/or family living in Canada. So that itself shows say nah Baba God follow me come.

But the biggest decision i took coming here was emptying my cup... I had to start from scratch... I got a job less than a month of landing that pays a little over minimum wage... It paid the bills, i am a good cook and I was comfy. but that no be wetin carry me come here as iyawo dey UK... I was always looking for that oppurtunity. Three months in my old role... I started Job hunting again... I got a juicy position with NCR and i got dropped for not having a G licensce... (I got my G - licence a month and a half later, re-applied to NCR, only if they call me tomorrow or something). I got another interview with survey monkey (Fortune 500 company), I did the networking, added people on linkedin, met people for coffee, did the due diligence, I know I did well... only to be told my SaaS skill wasn't Canadian enough.... That shii pained me... That shiii pained me entyer blood because i knew that was a stupid excuse to drop me after doing really well...

So I decided to cool job hunting till next year when a certain job I applied to back in June and already sent me the "We're moving on with other qualified candidates email" dusted my file on their shelf and asked me if i was still interested in the position two months after the fact.

See these people Oooo... Sure... Phone interview and assessment went smooth... It was billed for 15 minutes but we ended up talking for 45 minutes... This Hr woman (God bless her soul) is in Alberta. They have a branch in each city of every province in Canada and deep down I'm sure she was the one that push my application through. I digressed... ... Back to my story... I'm sure I aced my assessment as well and i was scheduled for the office interview... After every every... the managers were so impressed they told me we were two top candidates vying for a single position and asked me if i spoke french... I knew there was a problem... Ottawa is very bilingual as most jobs here are servicing French and English speaking people... besides it is the capital... Long story short... I got dropped again by the same company and i zeroed my mind till next year as I won't be hoping about for Interviews.

Last week of October... the HR called me and said... If i'm still interested, they'll like to commence background check... na so I approve and I got the job and i'll be resuming on Monday in a new role from Downtown not too far from where i live.

My point is, after my plenty story is that... There is absolutely nothing wrong in starting all over again... and doing your job wherever you find yourself in truth and satisfying your conscience. I had used my time at my small role to build for my future, I didn't get involve in office politics... i don't have a crew/clique... as I mingled with everyone, white, brown, Asians, Africans and aliens. Then my English wasn't very Nigerian. It's more British than Nigerian...

If you're religious... God has showered his grace upon me... and If you're not, I have been really lucky... Everyone story is different... Believe in your heart you'll reap what you sowed and all will be well.

Canada is cold... But it isn't that bad... i'm a game person... so if I see game... half of the world's problem is solved... that's where PS4 comes in handy... Iyawo wa... lol... and i see the disappointment on their faces when i mention I'm not available... It's a struggle to be casual as I really do... I go out sometimes... I buy a bottle of something strong at 42% at LCBO as Alomo is not available, I get invited to parties by everyone and relive moments and I uber home.

Everyone has a different perspective to Canadian life, My Landlord is 25/26 Indian guy, works with the government, has two houses and does UBER. I have a job just above minimum wage and i haven't found a reason to do UBER yet. My credit score is 708 and this is my Canadian story in 8 months...

You and you alone know the reason you made the move... do not let someone else's pity story discourage you... and trust me.. I've seen the homeless wandering downtown... it's not all fun and games but different strokes for different folks... a bad decision can render one homeless here... but that's story for another day.

general advice... Do not buy anything you cannot afford to pay off once... the only sort of financing i'll encourage anyone to have is a MORTGAGE. c'est fini...

I'm planning on learning french but that's next year program... right now omo olomo just wants to rest.

P.s:

Shout Out to my momsy... I was raised like a foreigner in Nigeria... perks of being an Ajebutter I guess. Peace!!!

Edited:

I really can't share too much... I wrote a short review of me living in Canada for 6 months on a popular forum and CBC wants to do a documentary as soon as I clock a year... How sweet can things get...?

Congratulations iPopAlomo, people are always scared of starting from the scratch. Canada no won send you even if you're a manager before you left Naija, you must be humble to climb that ladder but that "we have moved on with other candidates" dey pain Thanks for sharing, but wait did i see 42%

iPopAlomo:
I been no wan talk before... But at this point... I need to share to some ghost reader that'll be needing this sometime in the future.

I'll be starting a new role on Monday... Dream job that comes with all the PERKS of a big company downtown OTTAWA.

It wasn't easy, I'll be honest but plenty observation and work got me in... and if you ask me... Most of them follow me come from Nigeria.

Unlike most people... I had no friends and/or family living in Canada. So that itself shows say nah Baba God follow me come.

But the biggest decision i took coming here was emptying my cup... I had to start from scratch... I got a job less than a month of landing that pays a little over minimum wage... It paid the bills, i am a good cook and I was comfy. but that no be wetin carry me come here as iyawo dey UK... I was always looking for that oppurtunity. Three months in my old role... I started Job hunting again... I got a juicy position with NCR and i got dropped for not having a G licensce... (I got my G - licence a month and a half later, re-applied to NCR, only if they call me tomorrow or something). I got another interview with survey monkey (Fortune 500 company), I did the networking, added people on linkedin, met people for coffee, did the due diligence, I know I did well... only to be told my SaaS skill wasn't Canadian enough.... That shii pained me... That shiii pained me entyer blood because i knew that was a stupid excuse to drop me after doing really well...

So I decided to cool job hunting till next year when a certain job I applied to back in June and already sent me the "We're moving on with other qualified candidates email" dusted my file on their shelf and asked me if i was still interested in the position two months after the fact.

See these people Oooo... Sure... Phone interview and assessment went smooth... It was billed for 15 minutes but we ended up talking for 45 minutes... This Hr woman (God bless her soul) is in Alberta. They have a branch in each city of every province in Canada and deep down I'm sure she was the one that push my application through. I digressed... ... Back to my story... I'm sure I aced my assessment as well and i was scheduled for the office interview... After every every... the managers were so impressed they told me we were two top candidates vying for a single position and asked me if i spoke french... I knew there was a problem... Ottawa is very bilingual as most jobs here are servicing French and English speaking people... besides it is the capital... Long story short... I got dropped again by the same company and i zeroed my mind till next year as I won't be hoping about for Interviews.

Last week of October... the HR called me and said... If i'm still interested, they'll like to commence background check... na so I approve and I got the job and i'll be resuming on Monday in a new role from Downtown not too far from where i live.

My point is, after my plenty story is that... There is absolutely nothing wrong in starting all over again... and doing your job wherever you find yourself in truth and satisfying your conscience. I had used my time at my small role to build for my future, I didn't get involve in office politics... i don't have a crew/clique... as I mingled with everyone, white, brown, Asians, Africans and aliens. Then my English wasn't very Nigerian. It's more British than Nigerian...

If you're religious... God has showered his grace upon me... and If you're not, I have been really lucky... Everyone story is different... Believe in your heart you'll reap what you sowed and all will be well.

Canada is cold... But it isn't that bad... i'm a game person... so if I see game... half of the world's problem is solved... that's where PS4 comes in handy... Iyawo wa... lol... and i see the disappointment on their faces when i mention I'm not available... It's a struggle to be casual as I really do... I go out sometimes... I buy a bottle of something strong at 42% at LCBO as Alomo is not available, I get invited to parties by everyone and relive moments and I uber home.

Everyone has a different perspective to Canadian life, My Landlord is 25/26 Indian guy, works with the government, has two houses and does UBER. I have a job just above minimum wage and i haven't found a reason to do UBER yet. My credit score is 708 and this is my Canadian story in 8 months...

You and you alone know the reason you made the move... do not let someone else's pity story discourage you... and trust me.. I've seen the homeless wandering downtown... it's not all fun and games but different strokes for different folks... a bad decision can render one homeless here... but that's story for another day.

general advice... Do not buy anything you cannot afford to pay off once... the only sort of financing i'll encourage anyone to have is a MORTGAGE. c'est fini...

I'm planning on learning french but that's next year program... right now omo olomo just wants to rest.

P.s:

Shout Out to my momsy... I was raised like a foreigner in Nigeria... perks of being an Ajebutter I guess. Peace!!!

Edited:

Male or female?

Everygirl:


Hi, I need one from March next year when I land.

Is this available right now or can we discuss for March?

P.S. Anyone who would like to share a place in Calgary from March or know anyone who may have a place should let me know. thanks

abbey4christ:
Congratulations iPopAlomo, people are always scared of starting from the scratch. Canada no won send you even if you're a manager before you left Naija, you must be humble to climb that ladder but that "we have moved on with other candidates" dey pain Thanks for sharing, but wait did i see 42%

No be every time person go dey play game... i shayo, i party and i go to sleep until i agree to attend another party... usually... Once a month or Once in two months.

Besides... the way they party here is quite different... so If you get invited for a parte... it's good habit to buy a bottle of something.

If only the author of the write up spent more time appreciating the good benefits of being a canadian he/she wont hVe so much negative mindset of canada..I have learnt from experience that whatever preconcieved notion you have of a "place" shapes out the experiences you will have living in that place..

Ce la vie...simple




[1quote author=Collintos post=84204134]6 - Unless you are an engineer or have an MBA or, if you are a real estate or car sales agent (or wish to become) forget about doing anything ambitious. You could have all the qualification in the world and work in Walmart and enjoy your 4 K salary with benefits (many people are happy with that and do put aside their goals and settle with having enough pay to get by as an ultimate). And if you refuse to work for years on years in job for which you are overqualified, you are pointed at as a sloth who doesn’t want to work. Your success is measured by salary, pension, and mortgage, not if you are happy with your job (it's actually the norm to hate your work). Ironically no one wants to talk about numbers when it comes to money. There is a presumption everyone's wellbeing and financial condition is safeguarded by some godly ransom that they digged up from the graves of their ancestors.

7 - Dishonesty. The way [most] people do not tell you what they mean and confuse you with their actions and words is astonishing here. Barely anyone is straightforward, and humor is the lost word in Canadian English. Everyone seems to have a stick up their arse (and you will become like that too). People only open up after getting absurdly drunk - mainly for a few seconds before they lose the ability to collect their conscious.
(Edit: there is a general assumption that people in countries with Arctic climate and low-density populations have bigger bubbles around their selves, are more difficult to connect and are easily out of touch with their emotions. I cannot speak for Scandinavia for example, but, have heard foreigners from dense societies feel the same about them. Take this tho; emotional has negative connotations in Canadian English. So you know who you are).

8 - It’s boring (save for the hardcore advocates of outdoors sports - even though the temperatures are usually below standard for those too, I have heard skiiers from Scandinavia come here and are shocked how locals go out on days they would absolutely refuse to exercise outdoors). Other than the few main cities I’m sure you know which ones are and, their downtown areas only, the rest of the towns and the burbs and the cities are a copy and pasted version of one another - ugly 70s style cement buildings, from an era where architects stopped being creative and erecting venues, was likely left to road builders! City structure is inaccessible without a car and, is alienating.

Having fun comes down to bar hopping with teens (or grown-ups who like to act like they are still teens; super excited about being able to drink), in un-fashionable clothing, hearing some off-tune country music and watching girls throw up and drop like flies - because alcohol is the holy grail no one wants to be left behind in consuming it as much as possible (and guess what? it is also more expensive than anywhere I have been, U.S. Europe, South America). You cannot enjoy your drink, or socialize all without it if you wished - it always seems to me that there is a race in ‘how much’ you can drink, so to say, you have a place in the society!!!

I am an artist, and I have studied human sciences. This type of environment does not cultivate creativity. The level of artwork, presentation and access to creative means is bare minimum because people care too much about having a routine and a salary - because back to the point, prices are no joke here, nor are your bills, your credit card neither the mortgage etc. And the best way to secure those is being as predictable and average as possible. Art is regulated by the government which is great in the sense that artists can have access to massive fundings; so long that they follow the government’s agenda which changes at every turn of the parliament.

9 - The food including fresh produce, snacks, prepared meals and pub/restaurant dishes is bland and tasteless (I do not really know what it is, the way the American groceries that are exported to Canada are grown? GMOs? The amount of sugar and salt that is used in food versus all the other spices that should be but are NEVER used?)

Edit: I accidentally came upon a source about proteins that indicated in North America some animal proteins (that are not naturally found in the structure of plants) are used for the growth of fruits and vegetables. I have also heard that many standards in agriculture and farming are way different from elsewhere in the world, whether these contribute to the tastelessness of food is for debate but surely modifications that are done to our food remain largely a mystery.

‘Affordable ethnic’ cuisines are limited to Thai and Chinese food. For the rest you will often have to pay 3 times as much.

10 - Get ready for wrecking accommodation, roaches, bedbugs, and mice. There are many many old residential buildings made of wood. Naturally, susceptible to all kinds of vermin. The hygiene level is also below my standards (and I am not fussy whatsoever). People, very often do not seem to clean enough. Not all, of course. But it does not surprise me anymore that 50% of the times when I walk into a new place and I notice the clump of dust in the corners and uncleaned kitchen and bathrooms.

Also, bad landlords, awful landlords and absolutely psychopathic ones who own houses and rent it out for extra income and make the life of the tenant hell, are plenty. Unless you are living in a condo building which is at least 1.5 times rentals and twice as expensive as shared houses, situations can rise easily.

Nature is great tho. Again if you have the luxury of accessing natural sites by car. Freezing your ass camping, or, would like to go hiking and skiing - mainly in inhuman temperatures. This is all given the fact that you do find the time off to ever do something extracurricular.

11 -Universal Health Care: it’s there, it’s good, so long that you are not actually sick or require an emergency. I cannot count the number of times I have heard people they were kept in the ER for hours with no rimary care, no drugs nor testing because there were no specialized doctors available to look t them (this goes from food poisoning to having a broken bone to anything else). I am not talking about medical mistakes. I am talking about a sever shortage in doctors.

Doctors, I mean specialists, literally flock to this country in the hopes of practicing their medicine away from their home country where they have to compete with several others. It is almost impossible for them to get back on the track with new qualifications they require to work in Canada as it takes a decade to get through the tests and everything… and guess what? life costs money and they end up being taxi drivers - or whatever, not doctors no more!!! (The taxi driver doctor is such a stereotype you cannot even keep a blind eye). Now, those doctors CAN, in fact, make a good living driving taxis or working in Walmart or wherever, but what do you think happens to people in need of special care?

Well if they are rich they go to the States, Europe or the Middle East, in emergency situations sometimes the correct diagnosis does not take place on time and they end up being slaves to the pharmaceutical industry for their lifetime.

Plus note that the Universal Health Care does not cover the costs of most of the highly specialized medical treatments - unless you have extra coverage with your work.

So, despite as a relatively healthy person you can enjoy regular checks with your family doctor, anything beyond that if you are not employed at the right place and do not have a ton of money to pay for treatment in the U.S. can be scary.

Hmmm…what’s the cancer rate in Canada again?

12 - Unemployment Benefits; I am not going to say it is awful to have help when you become unemployed (but I guess most governments in the world have something along those lines). It is relatively easy to get the few hundred dollar checks and it can cover some basic costs. But the thing is, those who actually rely on this money either torn apart native people, and you know that their conditions go back generations (again I am not going to elaborate on what has happened to the indigenous peoples of Canada, you do your research) and their unemployment in a colonial system that is not compatible with their lost traditions, is not something that can be fixed with a few hundreds of dollars per month, but needs a historical healing. The other benefactors are lazy entitled [often local white] people who do not look for work, do not accept low wage work, and do choose to beg on the streets (because they can collect some more from kind people who help them) while they reside in social housing or dirty cheap team houses. Often drunken bad-mouthed homeless people who are plenty in the richest cities of the country - you only need to take a 5 minute walk n downtown Ottawa or Toronto, for example, to realize poverty is not something specific to ‘the developing countries’. But interestingly, there are no videos or pictures showing this type of thing to the enthusiastic immigrants as ‘Canada’. No, Canada is not only its homeless people. Neither it is its national hockey team. But there are these issues here, like anywhere else in the world and the spotless imagery many people have of this country is simply laughable.

A middle-class worker who does pay some rent for a decent place and happens to have become unemployed cannot really manage monthly expenses with this check the government sends. It is just a little help. It does not hold one’s life together unless one decided to move in a basement with 4+ roommates during the time he or she is unemployed - which can mean months. I do not propose the provincial governments should raise this pay, I am just saying those who move to Canada to get these benefits are very much like those buggers who soak up the money sitting on the streets acting like they need help while the real trouble of unemployment (however small in percentage) is draining students and real workers.

And last but not least International Higher Education: There is a humongous number of people who come to Canada as international students every year (I wrote my Ph.D. thesis about this, so this only a glimpse of the facts I have come upon while writing. Rest assured, I have presented my research to the department of immigration and citizenship and they approved I had my facts right_so there). All around the world, studying abroad is encouraged and celebrated, especially is one gets into a highly accredited institution in the top universities that are mainly located in anglophone countries. Many of those who come to Canada are essentially pursuing this as a pathway for accessing immigration to Canada. Little they know the number of foreign students is so overwhelmingly high, and the information regarding their success in getting permanent residency is very scattered; the reality is the government of Canada recognizes international education as one of its most important economic assets[1] (immediate expenditure of incoming international students earned about 12 billion dollars for Canada in 2016[2] ) but despite the available programs for immigration of students, the ultimate goal has never been to settle all of them[3] .
Each international student pays up to 3 times the tuition fee[4] to the domestic student (depending on the province) and funding (especially for foreign students) is becoming more scarce every year. Now while you might be experiencing all of the social aspects of life including the above-mentioned, before deciding to study in Canada you might want to check the job market from within - meaning people who have been through your field of study. Do not rely on the advertising university partners provide or the pretty pictures on university websites. Studying here is no joke and one is better to consider everything and more (including finding a good adviser who is not planning on being a dick to you for the entire course of your graduate degree) before committing to a program that requires great attention.

Also please note that an international student can not enjoy any of the government programs such as immigration services, health care, unemployment benefits etc. These only come to immigrants and citizens. Especially after an international student graduates, he or she is literally relying on a single paper called Post Graduate Work Permit. There is barely any budget dedicated to guiding this young and sophisticated bunch through the Canadian system.

EDIT: Now, don’t get me wrong. I do not absolutely hate my life (so please, be kind and save the philanthropic positivist advice, I’d prefer a proper mural or DJ gig lol - you see no matter how great I feel about myself, if I do not enjoy the social scene and do not wish to live the rest of my life HAPPILY in an isolated enclave, there is no way around it). This is not my diary or resume. And I have not included anything close to my day to day negative experience with matters such as underemployment, higher education fees, the art scene etc. These are my reasons that convince me, as per speaking to the general public, why I would have possibly chosen another destination - somewhere warmer with better urban architecture and a dense population - if I went back and decided to go abroad and explore the world at 24 (again, if you are here to represent Canadian patriarchy by hateful comments, you are simply on a wrong post, go read something that fulfills your agenda). Also, this is in the 2010s, Canada screens in almost only highly skilled technical work force and, I am in the arts and humanities. My experience would be incomparable to numerous people who moved here 30 years ago as general labour.

Canadians are very nice. They are welcoming and do not discriminate (often, as I have seen) against race or culture. There are very decent, respectable people I have met here. There are friendships I do cherish. But I do not think that I would have moved here for the sake of meeting these people. Especially for a person without their 1st degree family, life is very machine-like, disconnected here. You might not mind the prices if you are rich, and would likely be able to skip atrocious housing conditions. It doesn’t negate the fact that the industrial nature of everything resonates everywhere no matter what you do. People will not ever, never get actually close to you and at some point you give up trying to break the ice. And you will learn to do the same as them, and limit your relationships to thinking of them as professional networks which you will have to employ for career purposes. You will create your own bubble around yourself and you will either learn to enjoy it, or you will keep regretting your life choices.

P.S. These are my reasons for ‘regretting moving to Canada’. Things I have listed here have affected me personally. It is always easier to see things from a critical perspective once one has lived in different places. Nonetheless, these are my viewpoints as a foreigner; most of the times people who have lived all of their lives in their country of birth think their country is either the worst of the best. Yet, everything is relative.


Please could these be true @ seniors in the house?? [/quote]

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Dollywood:


Hmm Canada is the 2nd largest country with just a population of 39million the country is very big but can be so boring because everyone mind their business there it's gonna be that easy to make friends unless u have a dating app or you're in school.. The Canadians are polite but they prefer to keep their problems to themselves instead of sharing it with others.
And their Winter!!! Jeez... That is when the real boredom sets in.. The harsh winter there can make u stay at home all day for months because u can't really go outside catch some fun unlike their Summer! Their summer is the best to enjoy in The country... But they have longer winter than summer.. Their summer is short like 4months of summer and 6months of winter! Those who enjoy Canada the most are those with their family, if u go alone boredom can make u regret

I have relatives there that do gist me about Canada

Lass Lass Canada is a lovable and livable country
Make God just answer my prayer make i enter cannyland this December

Your people in Canada refuse to be adventurous. There is so much to do and so many activities even in winter. According to someone in this forum that thing called winter only really affects the poor.

This winter, If you are landing in Edmonton and need assistance getting to your destination free of cost, pm your arrival dates about a week ahead so I can make arrangements to pick you up depending on your arrival days/time and my schedule.

Phocusjosh:
Hello bro. I trust all is well. Please, I need your assistant urgently and I hope you respond to my emails.

Hello bro, I just responded.

Canny19:
Please who has done any of these courses and which of them do you think pays more in Canada? And does it make sense for PR holders to get student loans to pursue full time courses or diploma courses as the case may be. Thanks

With the opioid issues in Calgary addictions is sure to be in demand for a while here.

From the little I know, it's a waste of money doing courses with private institutions like CDI. You can get same course for cheaper at govt owned institutions. And more respected degree too.

Naijaforeigner:


Thank you so much for sharing, your story is more than enough reason for me to stop. God bless you.

Also big thanks to Tominiola and Hotstepper for your suggestions.

Sincerely I find snacks from Tim Horton's just too sweet. I don't enjoy them. Just like licking icing sugar if you ask me.

Canny19:
Please who has done any of these courses and which of them do you think pays more in Canada? And does it make sense for PR holders to get student loans to pursue full time courses or diploma courses as the case may be. Thanks

Check the Addictions and Mental Health Recovery Programme at Norquest college if you are in Edmonton. It's full time but hybrid of online and in class. In person classes holds twice a week - Wednesday and Saturday

Godisincontrol:
This winter, If you are landing in Edmonton and need assistance getting to your destination free of cost, pm your arrival dates about a week ahead so I can make arrangements to pick you up depending on your arrival days/time and my schedule.

Bless your heart for this kind offer. May doors continue to open for youu too.

19CannyMum:


Sincerely I find snacks from Tim Horton's just too sweet. I don't enjoy them. Just like licking icing sugar if you ask me.

Same here... I hate the TimBits with passion... If you see me at Tim Hortons, it's the chicken wrap and wedges and I take them once in a while.

Good day, I know this forum is for people already in Canada and that’s why I’m asking here. Please ild like to know if anyone successfully used mutual fund like Stanbic mutual fund as 100%pof. I had one opened like 6 months ago in hope of Ita.
Please I would like to find out.

God bless you real good.

Godisincontrol:
This winter, If you are landing in Edmonton and need assistance getting to your destination free of cost, pm your arrival dates about a week ahead so I can make arrangements to pick you up depending on your arrival days/time and my schedule.

19CannyMum:


Your people in Canada refuse to be adventurous. There is so much to do and so many activities even in winter. According to someone in this forum that thing called winter only really affects the poor.

Seriously ? U said my people ain't adventurous ? Nah almost every immigrant must focus on work/school adventures are for holidays or weekends, The only interesting period in Canada is summer and spring that's when the adventure&fun can evoke unlike the freezing deadly winter that will make u sit at home all day! And what do u even mean by it only affects the poor? Who are the poor ? Do u even know what it means to be poor, In Canada if u have food,cloth and shelter than you're okay and not poor, don't deny the fact that winters in Canada is boring and tiring and it lasts longer than summer.
PS: I also said If you wanna really enjoy Canada come with your family or sponsor your family to join you there, The Boredom allows affects the people who live alone without their family and it can be depressing sometimes.

By Vash, Toronto

A crisp view


Even though the answer to this question would vary from person to person, it’s easier to answer than some more open ended questions such as “Is it worth migrating to Canada”, as in this case you’ve provided some more details about your personal situation - you have a family with a child, you have a job.

I was in a similar situation an year ago when I immigrated here, and my decision was relatively easier since it felt like a natural transition as we’d already spent about 3 years in U.S. and had gotten used to the North American lifestyle.

What I personally feel is that it’s not a simple “Worth it” answer in all , or even most cases. In fact the more you’d stand to lose, the less worth it will be.

e.g. If you were single and young (say less than 30), then it’s a no brainer as you wouldn’t lose much in terms of your career if you were to start from scratch here.

I was lucky that I got an internal transfer within my company, but trust me many people (perhaps majority) start from scratch when they arrive. Their previous experience, specially if it’s from a non western country, is not counted for most lateral hiring. Are you OK with that?

Another obvious aspect is how well are you doing in your home country? e.g. If you’re in a low paying blue collar job in a non western country, it’s absolutely worth it to move here as the money and social equality you’ll get here, you would never be able to get it in a non western country (assuming it’s like India, where I come from).

If you’re a white collar worker, it gets trickier. Let’s say that your family income is less than 20,000 CAD (10 lakhs INR) annually in India, then it makes sense to move as you stand to gain more than to lose. However, the higher you earn from here the riskier your move will be. If you have (or can expect to have in the next 5 years) an annual family income of 40 to 50,000 CAD (20 to 25 lakh INR), you already belong to the top 1% of the population!

In my humble opinion, earning 50,000 CAD in the most expensive cities in India is much BETTER than earning 100,000 CAD in Toronto / Vancouver.

Also remember, while the blue collar worker would be stepping up from the lower rung of the ladder of an unequal society to the platform of a (relatively) equal society, the white collar worker would be stepping down from the privileged upper end of the ladder onto this equal platform. I’m not saying that it’s a negative, but it’s something to be prepared for.

As for quitting your job to come here, from whatever I’ve seen of the job market, I won’t suggest doing that. Maybe consider taking 2 months of unpaid leave and come here to explore the job market.

Another point, even if you do manage to get a decent job after all the initial struggle of getting the “Canadian experience”, your purchasing power wouldn’t have changed all that much. Your earnings may double but your expenses would go up by 4 to 5 times.

All this is just the economic aspect, of course there are the intangibles like friends and family in your home country that are invaluable. And obviously, the 5 months of winter. But I’ll assume you’ve already taken those factors into consideration.

Though if your reason to migrate is to move to a country with better infrastructure, lesser corruption and pollution and better opportunities for your children, then it’s worth it. Just don’t do it for purely economic reasons. The “Quality of Life” in Canada is better than most countries overall. But the “Standard of Living” of an upper middle class person in a country such as India will be the same (or better) for the income group mentioned above.

Standard of Living Vs. Quality of Life

So, eventually you need to ask yourself - how much do you have to lose?

I am. I've sent you an email. Thank you.

GirlieNtosh:
Anybody interested in a brand new furnished 1 bedroom basement in NW Calgary?

N.B Short-term only

hmmm, all these recent posts here.. We refuse to be discouraged

Me and my family will excel in Canada ! They shall be no better yesterday for us, Amen. We'll take on the challenges and excel exceedingly, Amen

I will come back and quote this message in testimony, some time in the near future

Influential101:
hmmm, all these recent posts here.. We refuse to be discouraged

Me and my family will excel in Canada ! They shall be no better yesterday for us, Amen. We'll take on the challenges and excel exceedingly, Amen

I will come back and quote this message in testimony, some time in the near future

lol. It is well. Even 2 of my friends yesterday awaiting pr began to develop cold feet. Before we all started the journey we knew all these. Seems most are migrating to join the band wagon. Its lonely, boring, hard for relationship, one may not get a befitting job etc. We dont care o. No need posting those stories here. It usually comes from a certain people with one yeye ego.i miss my.family i miss the festivals bla bla bla. I have friends and colleagues who have gotten jobs before landing. One got in BC and was paid relocation expense join. I prefer to hear such stories o than this gloomy ones.

[quote author=abbey4christ post=84209118]People have different experiences, with the few months I have spent here I can agree with the 2nd and 3rd post but I do not totally agree with everything in the 1st post. Let me share my little experience with job search. I came in July this year and after staying with my host for about 3 weeks plus I got an apartment of my own which means paying rent and other bills. I had to eat humble pie to take up an accounts clerk role of 3months just for the so called “Canadian experience” and to pay my bills, no savings. I was working with a multinational oil company, though as a contract staff and earning average of 400k per month depending on days worked.

Nice one Akoda.....If you know you know

Influential101:
hmmm, all these recent posts here.. We refuse to be discouraged

Me and my family will excel in Canada ! They shall be no better yesterday for us, Amen. We'll take on the challenges and excel exceedingly, Amen

I will come back and quote this message in testimony, some time in the near future

it's a little discouraging but it's to get you prepared for life in Canada, it's not all bed of roses as it is painted you will need to work to be successful so plan well and try connect with people before travelling

ednut1:
lol. It is well. Even 2 of my friends yesterday awaiting pr began to develop cold feet. Before we all started the journey we knew all these. Seems most are migrating to join the band wagon. Its lonely, boring, hard for relationship, one may not get a befitting job etc. We dont care o. No need posting those stories here. It usually comes from a certain people with one yeye ego.i miss my.family i miss the festivals bla bla bla. I have friends and colleagues who have gotten jobs before landing. One got in BC and was paid relocation expense join. I prefer to hear such stories o than this gloomy ones.

Yeah, I have also heard fantastic testimonies from people.. It goes both ways..

I can't trade this opportunity because I may not have it in the near future..

We must succeed, no option

Flytime:
it's a little discouraging but it's to get you prepared for life in Canada, it's not all bed of roses as it is painted you will need to work to be successful so plan well and try connect with people before travelling

Yeah, I appreciate the contributions, nowhere is a bed of roses..

I even forwarded the messages to my spouse so that we'll be aware of what we're getting ourselves into..it's a very big decision for us.. but I know that God never fails, We will surely succeed..

We have kids looking up to us, they'll be glad we made this decision..

Hello ,

Kindly add me to the Edmonton WhatsApp group

Nozzle:

@canny19

Sent you a PM already ...edmonton whatsapp group pls i am also interested

Thanks

i tried sending a pm but i get the anonymous mail error. kindly assist. Landing in January

Godisincontrol:
This winter, If you are landing in Edmonton and need assistance getting to your destination free of cost, pm your arrival dates about a week ahead so I can make arrangements to pick you up depending on your arrival days/time and my schedule.

Influential101:
Yeah, I appreciate the contributions, nowhere is a bed of roses..

I even forwarded the messages to my spouse so that we'll be aware of what we're getting ourselves into..it's a very big decision for us.. but I know that God never fails, We will surely succeed..

We have kids looking up to us, they'll be glad we made this decision..

To me, i just liken it to the European Slave trade. On one part, we see it as heinous, inhumane and callous. On the other hand, we wished our forefathers were also shipped abroad, looking at the opportunities the descendants of the then slaves are enjoying now. I can tell you, it was a sacrifice.
Meanwhile, this is not slave trade, its Economic migration. Even if we do not enjoy the totality of the benefits that come with it, our childen will, and be grateful we did.
N.B.: Move oo, make your children no go they ask you where you they when people were moving