larride:


A UCL final is 1000 times bigger than 100 league titles in Norway.

Nobody remembers UCL runners up. I bet you didn't remember Didier Deschamps was the one that took Monaco to champions league final against Porto in 2004, we only remember the winner (Jose Mourinho). Poch can continue celebrating Champions league finalist he should not forget to hang is runners up medal in his Living room.

footiemaniac:


Nobody remembers UCL runners up. I bet you didn't remember Didier Deschamps was the one that took Monaco to champions league final against Porto in 2004, we only remember the winner (Jose Mourinho). Poch can continue celebrating Champions league finalist he should not forget to hang is runners up medal in his Living room.

Which team won the Norwegian league last season? Do you honestly know or give a damn?

Dele my boy.. You are now the second choice left back

footiemaniac:


Nobody remembers UCL runners up. I bet you didn't remember Didier Deschamps was the one that took Monaco to champions league final against Porto in 2004, we only remember the winner (Jose Mourinho). Poch can continue celebrating Champions league finalist he should not forget to hang is runners up medal in his Living room.

Yeah, the same Didier Deschamps that went on to win the prestigious football tournament in the world.

Let’s even look at Deschamps profile since that 2004 champions league final.

He went to Juve when they were demoted to Seria B for match fixing, won them a cup and won the Seria B and gained promotion back in his first season. He resigned afterwards.

Next, he went to Marseille and won the league in his first attempt and won the ligue 1 cup 3 times in a row and still got to quarter final of the champions league.

Left Marseille for France and won them the World Cup.

You see, this is a terrible example to use. If we are going by this example of yours, Poch is destined for great things then.

Omo I don read tire

trust me I feel poch will survive in man utd
but at the same time not with the current united squad

I like ole and poch too
but I think ole is better tactically than poch.
but overall poch is a better coach than ole.

let's take a look at poch and ole features (might be wrong)

Ole
>tactically efficient in handling big teams but looks lost then up against small teams
>knows what player he wants even if it's a gamble
>can handle pressure (trust me on this one)
>bast***d two ways talker
>a yes man


Poch
>he can't handle pressure (poch undoing was going to the champions league finals and not winning it, levy has never forgiven him for it)..the truth is since that finals the media has in one way or the other put Tottenham on the spot light this season.. before this season started Tottenham were now seen as the team that could break Liverpool and mancity duopoly.. pressure was a poch and he started figgeting ...even in news conference ..and he also lost the dressing room....I say again poch greatest undoing was not winning that champions league final
>poch is really good at bringing in youngsters and good with low budget( does that ring a bell ....MOYES)
>Poch team is always the underdog when playing a top team excluding arsenal(derby match)
>poch is a trophy less coach
>poch is not an average coach ....NEVER!!!!!!!!!
>poch is also a yes man

in conclusion I know poch will succeed in United
but are we United fans ready to becoming the next Tottenham (all top 4 and no trophies)

so people say with available funds he will compete

how much did he buy ndombele and what about Moura

which is a better player currently at Tottenham


I also feel OGS will succeed

try and go through ole's journey in molde

CrystalTiger:
All these ones na shalaye yarns jare..

That nincompoop Levy for just sack Poch as we dey find manager so all these OGS fanboys for see as ED for throway OGS from window..

This is the lesson from this Poch saga; NEVER COMPROMISE FOR ANY EMPLOYER..WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR WORTH, DEMAND FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE WORKING COND

Only on Nairaland will you see people putting OGS and Poch in the same sentence. A phuvking disgrace.


Like you said, if Poch was sacked right after Mourinho was sacked, OGS would not have been given the permanent job. Even with his string of wins back then that fooled the board, Poch would've been begged to take over. But alas, he got sacked this season.

If Poch had ditched loyalty and agreed to our flirtings with him, by now he wouldn't have met this fate.

We're talking of coach who managed his squad without buying a single player last season as Bottleham moved to another stadium, yet over-achieved with his squad to reach a UCL final. A coach that took unknown names like Kane, Alli, Son, Winks and built a good team, a coach that that competed with Leicester for a title which they lost at the end. A coach that gave Bottleham back to back to back UCL spots despite Bottleham not being a top club like Utd and City and Chelsea etc... Na em people wan compare OGS to? Chai. Poch, itala ahuhu!!


Poch, eriela nsi!! Wetin Babcock University no go see for internet. SMH!!

BTW, Patrickmuf, I loved all your points. Wish I'd give your posts multiple like.


Respect!!

Ole is a better tactician than Poch but you still think Poch is better.

Poch can’t handle pressure because he got to champions league final without winning it.

Dozie, you are confused.

obainojazz:

Lmao!!

larride:


Yeah, the same Didier Deschamps that went on to win the prestigious football tournament in the world.

Let’s even look at Deschamps profile since that 2004 champions league final.

He went to Juve when they were demoted to Seria B for match fixing, won them a cup and won the Seria B and gained promotion back in his first season. He resigned afterwards.

Next, he went to Marseille and won the league in his first attempt and won the ligue 1 cup 3 times in a row and still got to quarter final of the champions league.

Left Marseille for France and won them the World Cup.

You see, this is a terrible example to use. If we are going by this example of yours, Poch is destined for great things then.

You know the comparison i was trying to make, you are just twisting the narrative. Didier Deschamps won trophy before the Champions league final appearance,he his not remembered because of his champions league runners up medal, rather than the exploit he did winning trophies as a player and manager with Juventus and Marseille. Poch has only 1 Champions league runners up medal to showcase so far as player and manager in his 10years glittering career yet he has been anointed as the next Messiah.

sinizia:
BTW, Patrickmuf, I loved all your points. Wish I'd give your posts multiple like.


Respect!!

Oasis007 thought i was joking when i praised his brilliance. It's hard to find an highly intelligent person among you scummies.

weedtaker:
but he'll challenge for top 4, something OGS won't be able to do with the way we are playing.

How you're so certain about this marvels me..

footiemaniac:


You know the comparison i was trying to make, you are just twisting the narrative. Didier Deschamps won trophy before the Champions league final appearance,he his not remembered because of his champions league runners up medal, rather than the exploit he did winning trophies as a player and manager with Juventus and Marseille. Poch has only 1 Champions league runners up medal to showcase so far as player and manager in his 10years glittering career yet he has been anointed as the next Messiah.

No one said Poch is the next messiah. At least not me.

We are having this discussion because of your comparison of Ole and Poch.

Poch started with Espanyol and improved them to get employed by Southampton.

With Southampton, he finished 6th in his first full season, their highest finish since 1992, they haven’t finished at that position since he left them.

He met Spurs at 6th and turn them to regular top 4 team and got them challenging for the title. So it’s not like Poch has being managing the top teams in the clubs he has ever being.

A season before Ole was appointed manager at Molde, they finished second. So he went to the second best team in Norway league and won the title with them, it’s not like he went to the 6th or 12th placed team in Norway.

Let Poch go to the best team in any league or the second best team and see if he won’t win any trophies.

Until then, UCL final with Spurs is 1000 better than whatever Ole has achieved.

larride:


Isn’t it funny that they already concluded Poch will fail if given the Utd job?

While I do not want Poch at United, it’s ridiculous the certainty that Poch will fail.

Interesting!

Why don't you want Poch at United? Just curious bro.

sinizia:
BTW, Patrickmuf, I loved all your points. Wish I'd give your posts multiple like.


Respect!!

The respect is shared.

chidexxy007:

Interesting!

Why don't you want Poch at United? Just curious bro.

My views on Poch are well documented here.

I don’t want Poch when we can get better managers like Blanc, Erik Ten Hag or even Allegri.

Moreover I don’t like the way he set up his team against the big boys. He most times set up to contain them than to play his own system of football which in most cases usually backfire.

Will I take Poch over Ole? YES

Will I take Poch when we can get a better manager? Absolutely NO.

Una still dey on this Matter?! Me I don lock up o.

Sky in Germany are reporting Poch is being considered as next permanent manager of Bayern Munich.

Make E go win Titles with Bayern, then come back to the EPL as a possible United Manager.

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larride:


No one said Poch is the next messiah. At least not me.

We are having this discussion because of your comparison of Ole and Poch.

Poch started with Espanyol and improved them to get employed bun Southampton.

With Southampton, he finished 6th in his first full season, their highest finish since 1992, they haven’t finished at that position since he left them.

He met Spurs at 6th and turn them to regular top 4 team and got them challenging for the title. So it’s not like Poch has being managing the top teams in the clubs he has ever being.

A season before Ole was appointed manager at Molde, they finished second. So he went to the second best team in Norway league and won the title with them, it’s not like he went to the 6th or 12th placed team in Norway.

Let Poch go to the best team in any league of the second best team and see if he won’t win any trophies.

Until then, UCL final with Spurs is 1000 better than whatever Ole has achieved.

@bolded, make una camdan o, which league did Molde finish second in before Ole took over..

larride:


My views on Poch are well documented here.

I don’t want Poch when we can get better managers like Blanc, Erik Ten Hag or even Allegri.

Moreover I don’t like the way he set up his team against the big boys. He most times set up to contain them than to play his own system of football which in most cases usually backfire.

Will I take Poch over Ole? YES

Will I take Poch when we can get a better manager? Absolutely NO.

Interesting indeed..

Poch and Ole both have same setup against "big boys" with Ole coming out top 7/10 times..

How is Blanc and Ten Haag an upgrade on Poch?

larride:


No one said Poch is the next messiah. At least not me.

We are having this discussion because of your comparison of Ole and Poch.

Poch started with Espanyol and improved them to get employed by Southampton.

With Southampton, he finished 6th in his first full season, their highest finish since 1992, they haven’t finished at that position since he left them.

He met Spurs at 6th and turn them to regular top 4 team and got them challenging for the title. So it’s not like Poch has being managing the top teams in the clubs he has ever being.

A season before Ole was appointed manager at Molde, they finished second. So he went to the second best team in Norway league and won the title with them, it’s not like he went to the 6th or 12th placed team in Norway.

Let Poch go to the best team in any league or the second best team and see if he won’t win any trophies.

Until then, UCL final with Spurs is 1000 better than whatever Ole has achieved.

Can you prove the bolded? Molde actually finished 11th in previous season (2010), 28 points behind league winner(Rosenborg) before Ole took over and won the league(2011) in his first try and repeated it 2012. Do you consider that has a great feat?

footiemaniac:


Even Poch will get that Cardiff team relegated, that squad was very poor, even Benitez got relegated with NewCastle. At least OGS has titles to his name at Molde(Norway) , let poch go to Argentine league or lower league, win it and reinvent himself, then we can start talking.

There are reports Bayern Munich is about to make a move for Poch. So he'll win the trophies you've all been yapping about. But after then there will be nothing to talk about cuz there's no way he'd move to United. So this arguments are even baseless. He's not moving to United shikena.

ChristoBam:


There are reports Bayern Munich is about to make a move for Poch. So he'll win the trophies you've all been yapping about. But after then there will be nothing to talk about cuz there's no way he'd move to United. So this arguments are even baseless. He's not moving to United shikena.

Let him go to Bayern Munich, Ramdueter/Dayokanu will welcome him with open hands. From Kovac to Pochettino.

footiemaniac:


If Poch was not tactically inept, he should have known that going toe toe with Liverpool in Champions league final was a disaster waiting to happen. If he had scored one goal and tried to survived on a defensive masterclass, by now he would have had a trophy to his name and his name written in Spurs folklore. Nobody will remember him years to come in Spurs if Mourinho start delivering them trophies.

OGS result against big teams this season : Man United 4- 0 Chelsea, Man United 1-0 Leicester, Man United 1-1 Arsenal, Man United 1-1 Liverpool and you say he doesn't understand tactics?
Let us give him 5 seasons and same expectations Poch had at Spurs and see if he will not win us trophies.

Hehe, Poch tactically inept? Hehe, you know how many big games Poch has won? We all know that Poch doesn't do defensive masterclass o.

Re: CL final.....Poch bottled one in one final, how many Cl finals did Klopp lose before the win against Tottenham? You think the competition is very easy to win.

Honestly, I dont know why you are doing this. You even said that OGS won a trophy with Molde, therefore, he is better that Poch

I am done!

nitrogen:


Hehe, Poch tactically inept? Hehe, you know how many big games Poch has won? We all know that Poch doesn't do defensive masterclass o.

Re: CL final.....Poch bottled one in one final, how many Cl finals did Klopp lose before the win against Tottenham? You think the competition is very easy to win.

Honestly, I dont know why you are doing this. You even said that OGS won a trophy with Molde, therefore, he is better that Poch

I am done!

Which big game Poch win?

Why is he dragging bottom with Assnal in the big 6 mini league since he took over Tottenham?

Get your facts...

chidexxy007:

Interesting indeed..

Poch and Ole both have same setup against "big boys" with Ole coming out top 7/10 times..

How is Blanc and Ten Haag an upgrade on Poch?

How many games has OGS managed? Which kind comparison be this for fuvk's sake?

footiemaniac:


Can you prove the bolded? Molde actually finished 11th in previous season (2010), 28 points behind league winner(Rosenborg) before Ole took over and won the league(2011) in his first try and repeated it 2012. Do you consider that has a great feat?

Their first league in 100years as a club...

weedtaker:
why are dis people mentioning Ndombele as if he's a bad player, one even called him Bakayoko 2.0 lol,
that guy is good na.

Exactly
I've been surprised

chidexxy007:

@bolded, make una camdan o, which league did Molde finish second in before Ole took over..

Molde finished second in 2009. Ole was appointed manager in Nov 2010.