EasyPeazy:


Izzou you couldn't have said it any better. The picture below is a picture of a comment I made way back. A lot of Nigerians are very cynical and heartless to a large extent as long as money is involved. They don't mind cutting corners to the last as long as Mula is made. We are that wicked!

Just imagine how so many agents are already here using subtle means to try to defend the situation!

If what many of them are saying is the truth, why did the clearing agent not inform the buyer that duty is being underpaid and that he has a work around.... so that buyer will be pre informed and be ready for customs Brouhaha?

I repeat my mantra "I fear who doesn't fear Nigerians. The name of God is always on there lips but there hearts are full of evil and wickedness."

222Martins:
So the 2014 GX460 i pre-ordered from Manheim through KakakiAutos since July finally arrived this November 2019. You can see the thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/5281450/experience-buying-2014-lexus-gx460

Kakeir office[/b]. That was when he opened up that he paid N1.9M total and used the N850k or there about to grease palms at the port.

To be Continued!!!

ShenTeh:


I disagree with you sir.

He gave 222Martins that quote himself. The Op already claimed he doesn't like cutting corners, why help him to cut corners?

Is it your money?

That's fraud. Period.

tempex88:


If agent charge u 2.7m, money to government won’t be up to 2.5m

izzou:




It's terrible. I know someone who died in an accident. When pictures of the car was shared, we noticed that despite the impact, no airbag deployed

The answer was simple: They thought they bought a Tokunboh with "full option", "non accidented" and blah blah blah... But the car had no airbag

A lot of Nigerians drive cars without airbags just because one person wants to be greedy.

We are very wicked here oh.

ProtectMyMoney:


Everyone should be able to calculate the cost of clearing a vehicle.

It is on the customs.gov.ng website under the cet tariff

Just search for vehicles and check which code your vehicle falls under

Openbusiness:


I see your point sir and I don't dispute anything you said. This is where the problem began from, not doing what he agreed to do with the customer. The reason why I said it's not fraud is because from what the OP narrated, his agent did pay duty, even though short payment because he did back door clearing (clearing with part duty and settlements). Assuming he didn't pay duty at all, then that is fraud. That's why I used the word "TECHNICALLY" in my statement. I'm not defending the agent, nor do I support his action. He has himself to blame for this problem that could have been avoided if he followed his customer's wishes.

Openbusiness:


I see your point sir and I don't dispute anything you said. This is where the problem began from, not doing what he agreed to do with the customer. The reason why I said it's not fraud is because from what the OP narrated, his agent did pay duty, even though short payment because he did back door clearing (clearing with part duty and settlements). Assuming he didn't pay duty at all, then that is fraud. That's why I used the word "TECHNICALLY" in my statement. I'm not defending the agent, nor do I support his action. He has himself to blame for this problem that could have been avoided if he followed his customer's wishes.

Openbusiness:


I see your point sir and I don't dispute anything you said. This is where the problem began from, not doing what he agreed to do with the customer. The reason why I said it's not fraud is because from what the OP narrated, his agent did pay duty, even though short payment because he did back door clearing (clearing with part duty and settlements). Assuming he didn't pay duty at all, then that is fraud. That's why I used the word "TECHNICALLY" in my statement. I'm not defending the agent, nor do I support his action. He has himself to blame for this problem that could have been avoided if he followed his customer's wishes.

jaymichael:
That exactly is the issue. 35% duty +35% LEVY, 7% SURCHARGE on duty, 0.5% ETLS 5% VAT. add Shipping, Terminal and clearing agent fee, you are spending like 95% of the FOB VALUE of your car. Check am na, who fit pay the correct duty?
cc 222Martins

Openbusiness:


I see your point sir and I don't dispute anything you said. This is where the problem began from, not doing what he agreed to do with the customer. The reason why I said it's not fraud is because from what the OP narrated, his agent did pay duty, even though short payment because he did back door clearing (clearing with part duty and settlements). Assuming he didn't pay duty at all, then that is fraud. That's why I used the word "TECHNICALLY" in my statement. I'm not defending the agent, nor do I support his action. He has himself to blame for this problem that could have been avoided if he followed his customer's wishes.

Nyamiri:


Is short payment fraudulent or not?
Answer yes or no and stop defending nonsense.

You're using "technically" to defend fraud and criminality. He has not seen someone that he would try this nonsense with and that one would maim him for life.

izzou:
Someone came to you to clear a vehicle and you billed him. You didn't say "Oga, the bill is almost %90 of the cost price, but I can tip my way to make it lesser". You assured him he was paying the correct fee

He still called you while the car was to be transported. You still assured him that what he paid was correct.

And then they impound the car, and some of you come here to explain how it is impossible to pay custom duty and how the government is wicked

Being a Nigerian is a curse. An average Nigerian is wicked, dubious and deceitful. I don't think God listens to prayers about helping Nigeria. We are very good liars, and heartless

Imagine what people come here to explain

ProtectMyMoney:


Attached below is the guide on custom website

izzou:
Someone came to you to clear a vehicle and you billed him. You didn't say "Oga, the bill is almost %90 of the cost price, but I can tip my way to make it lesser". You assured him he was paying the correct fee

He still called you while the car was to be transported. You still assured him that what he paid was correct.

And then they impound the car, and some of you come here to explain how it is impossible to pay custom duty and how the government is wicked

Being a Nigerian is a curse. An average Nigerian is wicked, dubious and deceitful. I don't think God listens to prayers about helping Nigeria. We are very good liars, and heartless

Imagine what people come here to explain

MystiqueTaurus:
Went to Apapa ports to pick up a car for the first time this year. I was amazed at the amount of heavily accidented cars that people import into this country. People no dey fear God.

Make una Dey sell Wetin you fit use. Abeg.




It's terrible. I know someone who died in an accident. When pictures of the car was shared, we noticed that despite the impact, no airbag deployed

The answer was simple: They thought they bought a Tokunboh with "full option", "non accidented" and blah blah blah... But the car had no airbag

A lot of Nigerians drive cars without airbags just because one person wants to be greedy.

We are very wicked here oh. [/b][/color]

izzou:
Someone came to you to clear a vehicle and you billed him. You didn't say "Oga, the bill is almost %90 of the cost price, but I can tip my way to make it lesser". You assured him he was paying the correct fee

He still called you while the car was to be transported. You still assured him that what he paid was correct.

And then they impound the car, and some of you come here to explain how it is impossible to pay custom duty and how the government is wicked

[b]. An average Nigerian is wicked, dubious and deceitful. I don't think God listens to prayers about helping Nigeria. We are very good liars, and heartless

Imagine what people come here to explain [/b]

foolbuster:
Honestly i dont blame the agent or the Op. I might not know the process of clearing a vehicle or obtaining customs duty but i cant seem to understand why no one is blaming customs.

The customs papers are not fake, they are genuine.
It was customs themselves that issued those papers and released the vehicle, irrespective of how the papers was obtained fact remains it was customs that issued those papers, it is not fake.
If the conditions were not met, why did they release the vehicle along with genuine custom papers? Why is nobody talking about arresting the custom officials involved in the processing of the documents and release of the vehicles knowing that the conditions have not been met.

Is it not criminal for customs to issue clearance and papers for a vehicle knowing that the vehicle should not be cleared so that they can turn around and impound same vehicle for more money.

foolbuster:
Honestly i dont blame the agent or the Op. I might not know the process of clearing a vehicle or obtaining customs duty but i cant seem to understand why no one is blaming customs.

The customs papers are not fake, they are genuine.
It was customs themselves that issued those papers and released the vehicle, irrespective of how the papers was obtained fact remains it was customs that issued those papers, it is not fake.
If the conditions were not met, why did they release the vehicle along with genuine custom papers? Why is nobody talking about arresting the custom officials involved in the processing of the documents and release of the vehicles knowing that the conditions have not been met.

Is it not criminal for customs to issue clearance and papers for a vehicle knowing that the vehicle should not be cleared so that they can turn around and impound same vehicle for more money.

ShenTeh:
This will be very painful.

One day i told Gazzuz, "the guy I am talking about knows you very well. Should I trust him?" To which he replied, Don't trust any dealer!"

I will always put that to heart.

Don't trust any agent too has been added to that mantra.

And we will all be complaining about bad government, meanwhile we are worse.

izzou:


Of course, the agent should not be blamed..

[b]When you give your mechanic money to buy original parts for you after he charges you for it, and he buys fake parts, don't blame the mechanic. Blame the importer and customs.

According to the story, who did the op meet to clear his car? The custom officer

Who gave him a bill of 2.750? The custom officer

This is Nigeria, and you are correct sir. The Customs should be blamed for this[/b]

izzou:




It's terrible. I know someone who died in an accident. When pictures of the car was shared, we noticed that despite the impact, no airbag deployed

The answer was simple: They thought they bought a Tokunboh with "full option", "non accidented" and blah blah blah... But the car had no airbag

A lot of Nigerians drive cars without airbags just because one person wants to be greedy.

We are very wicked here oh.

thebigkendo:


I think we should blame Buhari self.. After all he appointed Colonel Hammed who is responsible for the criminal custom officer who you are blaming