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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu2: 11:39am On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: We can't be a Bangladesh or Phils' racing to pay our workers 5 USD a day-our socioculture won't STAND FOR IT. Ideally we'd optimise all our sectors value adding our agri crops while exporting new ones. E.g. we long conquered the French bean market yet apart from one kid in Naivasha we're still exporting raw to be processed and packed in Europe! Why? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 11:39am On Nov 22, 2019 |
tylann:That iss why you guys need an update .... Are you fighting for championship here |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:44am On Nov 22, 2019 |
samorobo: Both you and Vaxx have no clue what you are talking about. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 11:44am On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:why are you been dishonest this way? GHANA earns over 3.3 billion dollar on cocoa and that is almost 75 percent of of what she earns on Gold. the rest are useless ranting as usual. I am taking you as a joker now. Talk about your tea and SGR debt |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:48am On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:To pass u on what else? We grow 7% annually, but u don't do 7%.We are leading on economic inclusiveness, we are ahead on PPP. We do well on infrastructure, health,peace,etc! All that comes without our huge gas deposit which we are about to do a 30b$ investments with another 3b in fertilizer plant.What else do u want us to do to surpass u? Should we go and starve? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 12:13pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Splitting the hairs. Do you think what Cocoa has done to Ghana is comparable to what Gold or Oil has done? Of course the answer you don't want to answer is NO. Oil only contribution to your GDP is that offshore OIL RIG - and measly 1B dollars - otherwise the rest of the money ends up abroad - in oil majors account in Swiss or Luxembourg. Here is your latest export data for 2018 - about 14B dollars in 2018 ..Oil(4.5)+Gold(5.5)+Cocoa(2). https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/Ghana-s-2018-export-improve-significantly-BoG-data-718978# 1)Receipts from oil exports increased from USD 3.1 billion dollars in 2017 to USD 4.5 billion dollars in 2018. 2) Gold exports on the other hand witnessed a marginal decline from USD 5.7 billion dollars exported in 2017 to USD 5.4 billion dollars exported in 2018. This represents a decline of 5.6 percent. 3) While cocoa exports for 2017 stood at USD 2.6 billion dollars, the figure for 2018 dropped significantly by 21.4 percent to USD 2.09 billion dollars for 2018. vaxx1: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Logobenz0: 12:23pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:Shanty towns. Owerri is far more better than any village you called city in your shitthol all your village sorry cities are complete slums. You don't have cities at all 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 12:25pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Yes I think for now we cannot do that - besides automation is kicking the can down on brain dead manufacturing - for me - I think we CANNOT afford to focus on sector or another - we should just continue to liberalize the economy - improve the ease of doing business - improve infrastructure - improve social services spending - and let the private sector handle the rest. Whatever works will work. We don't need a ceremony to celebrate when somebody open a rice mill or pineapple plant like we were some backwater west african country kikuyu2: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:03pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Kazikazi:Nguva yakareba wanga uchiendepi zvese izvi isu tisina kukuona pese pese wakamboenda kumwe kunhu |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:09pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Since the Kenyans and Ghanaian started arguing the Nigerians have taken back and the trade is no more interesting because there are none of my Nigerian people to attack. I think it's time I run to the trend about the border closure that day I can find a lot of Nigerian people |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 1:12pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Before I go boko Haram is deal on rampage killing Nigerians soldiers
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Aderr: 1:16pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:This guy is really desperate. You would die of heart attack very soon. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Aderr: 1:21pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Kazikazi:You forgot to tell him Tanzania is not as indebted as Kenya. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Aderr: 1:26pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN:Your grammar is too poor! If all the time you spend on nairaland is spent developing your writing skills, am sure you would have improved. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:30pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Aderr: I think his camera skills are top notch. What about you? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:32pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
SUFFERInSMILIIN: Looking forward to more Accra photos. Post as much as you can. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 1:59pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Nigeria & Ghana - who are sending thousands of students abroad - can learn from kenya. For most of 90s & 2000s - up until I think around 2010 - Kenya led Africa by the number of students in US colleges...and then we began fixing our higher educations - and we are seeing less & less outbound students. https://monitor.icef.com/2016/02/kenyan-students-staying-home-in-greater-numbers-but-quality-concerns-persist/ Within that group of leading destinations, the US has seen numbers of Kenyan students in its institutions fall off sharply over the past decade or more. Figures from the Institute of International Education (IIE) show that there were[b] 3,072 Kenyan students enrolled with US universities in 2014/15, less than half of the 7,000 students recorded for 2004/05.[/b] 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 2:07pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Kikuyu - here is good report of Kenya Textile. We export nearly 600M dollars to the US under AGOA with about 400M worth of apparels. KQ direct flights will help export to the US - esp flowers and etc. Total workforce = 50,000. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNDAkJ0Yg20 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:08pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
mtisTheQubit: Take no prisoners. Let this be a lesson to all Gunias. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 2:14pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
MOMBASA KENYA 5 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 2:18pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:So you haven't see an inflation growth with GDP growth before? Your doom explanation didn't sound well. Ghana Didn't claim she has a bigger GDP than kenya in 2014, the economy productivity says so, Ghana was growing around 14 percent just in 2011, kenya had rebased its GDP over 8 times , that is what will should be careful about. , Ghana cedis currently has further crash dollar by 2. percent this Friday... worry about sustainability of shilling whose dependence is on artificial value...... how long can you sustained it without additional debt from China. GDP is just the value of goods and services . which largely is dependent on the net income generated by the citizens of the country. so if capital investment is not springing up , GDP will fall. Ghana experience poor investment in 2014 to 2016, the economy grows very slowly due to sluggish demand of its major commodity. The gold and oil including the cocoa. Ghana is an export dependable economy . yours is not diffrence either apart from the fact that, Ghana seems more productive than you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 2:50pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Inflation and currency depreciation is Ghana's main undoing. We have always re-based every 10yrs. UN recommend re-basing every 5yrs and of course doing census every 5yrs. We do it every 10yrs. You don't just rebase. Kenya rebasing. 1) 2013 2) 2006 3) 90s - 80s -70s -60s. vaxx1: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 2:52pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:Since you like to argue absurdly... Your economy is largely agrarian economy, fuel by tea and flower export which are largelly owned by international organization. how does kenya maintain a stable outflow in this race. most of your farmers are working for international agency, they don't even owned the tea farm. how will this not cause a capital flight? the oil money flight is basically because of international organization, ofcus, capital fight will happen, since the headquater of this buisness aren't in Ghana. but the most important , they pay their dues and they remmit their cash to the state. they are also contibutring their quota back to the economy thru the income taxes, royalties etc. they can retrieved all their profit back home .no law is binding them to have it in Ghana. the only way to limit capital flight is thru local company which the goverment have been advocating now we have Ghanaian indigenous company in the name of Springfield and more is coming.. This isn't kenya .... the report you upload is scanty, There is diffrence between cocoa beans and cocoa paste or even chocolate ...... 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 3:05pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:This is why your doom explanation doesn't hold , inflation is under control in Ghana now. it is just 7.6... your country that is tea and flower dependant has rebased its gdp over 7 times . yjis is way before you claimed to have a bigger GDP that is ahead of Ghana, You have rebased your about 6 times ..... you don't even know the last time you rebased ( that is mad) you keep arguing about Ghana. it is 1967, 1976, 2005 and 2014...gjat is the time you rebased your GDP... kenya main issue is corruption and over dependence on debt. debt in itself is not crime but building unsustainable pulse to fund it is the issue..... you can't be digging well and filling well at the same time . 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 3:10pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Tea is like cocoa - in fact Tea is even better - and so are flowers - because there a lot of labour, processing and transportation that happen locally - before they are exported. Kenya has more than 100 tea factories. And note small holder produces 70% of all kenya tea - with multinational doing 30%. Now someone minning few kilos of gold and airlifting it or selling oil offshore - leaves not very much - which is why Ghana when subjected to a picture test - look very POOR. vaxx1: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 3:12pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
A rebasing of gdp last year has flattered the country’s balance-sheet. Ghana’s debt-to-gdp ratio, which hit 73% in 2016, looks quite tame this year at 62% (it would have been 76% under the old gdp measure). But simply changing the estimated size of the economy does not magically bring in more tax. Interest payments still consume one-third of government revenues, which is more than it spends on education or health. Increasing the amount raised in taxes will be tough, because most of the economy is informal. The imf notes that taxes make up a smaller share of gdp(14% in Ghana) than in most other developing countries and classifies it as being at “high risk of debt distress”. Investors are also wary and demand much higher interest rates to hold Ghana’s foreign-currency bonds compared with Nigeria’s or Kenya’s. https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2019/06/22/after-its-16th-bail-out-ghana-hopes-to-put-the-imf-behind-it Ghana rebased their GDP to tame the debt to GDP ratio! 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 3:20pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019:You don't compare cooca with tea that is basically driven by foreing company, how is it better , Your farmer are poor . there is evidence for that. Cocoa are largely produced and 100 percent handle by Ghanaian. all the money involve from production down to finishing line goes back to Ghana. yours is fully driven by international agency . how will capital flight be curb in this process . they only pay your farmers a token while the foreing organization takes the lion share. comparing tea with cocoa is an act of stupidity. your total output even fetch below 1 billion dollar and the majority of this money ends up with foreing company. Your tea actually isn't any thing to write home about ...?most of the profit are largely consumed by international agency same thing with your flower. this is what is making Kenyans farmer poor .... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:37pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: How many cocoa factories do they have and how many are owned by Ghanains? I know for a fact almost 80% of all tea growing and processing is owned by KTDA and Kenyans and Mombasa is the biggest tea auction in the world. You can't say the same about their oil, gold and cocoa. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx1: 3:49pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
gallivant:All the current cocoa factory and chocolate processing are owned by Ghanaian. we also have indigenous company in the oil and gas sector. there is also a goverment owned gold refinery . can you boast of tea and flower in such way ( the cocoa industry alone halve your total export ... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu2: 3:51pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Kazikazi: All dreams are (NOT) valid! 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu2: 3:54pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: Never say never. It can happen if within the next decade there's a complete 180 degree sociocultural change that teaches work ethic and it's value and abandons witchcraft, gossip and hating; the stubborn Tzn characteristics. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:05pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
vaxx1: If you had cocoa factories you wouldn't be the worlds largest exporter of cocoa beans. You also import most of your petroleum products because all you export is crude oil. A wont even touch on a fool's gold! 2 Likes |
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