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Re: My Opinion On Feminism by henryobinna(m): 2:31pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:where are you getting your facts from? I think in reality it's contrary to what you posit here. Feminism actually is towards the opposite of what you're saying here if my memory of feminism serves me right. From my understanding of the whole movement on feminism and other social justice movements is that their sole aim is to emasculate men. It doesn't matter what role men decide to take up. Long as it's not a role that puts the man where he's decider of his actions. The problem with issues related to nature and nurture discussion is that there isn't a concrete and widely accepted 'story' on the beginning of man(humanity). That's why the argument is always filled with emotional rhetorics. If we're to live in a traditional family. The family style where men were always the head as were in the very past, I don't see a reason why I as a man won't assume the post of a provider since my wife would also without unnecessary complaints assume her rightful position. But today the families we have are ones where there are 2 heads with each threatening to go their way. There's no point providing for a potential traitor. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ryan03(f): 2:32pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:wow! I give it to you baby girl, you are good. Pocohantas, I've found a new crush 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 2:33pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Martinez39:the bodled , consequences enforced by who made by who?lol. Let me answer that the patraichy run society. Women will be fully empowered when the laws of divorce are reviewed ,child support is in place , and traditions relating to girl child inheritance ,child marriage , widow maltreatment etc are scrapped. How Do I Understand/satisfy My Husband? This particular thread is still in front page ,but you will likely avoid it. Many Nigerian women share bills or even take up full responsibility and that is a fact. But the question here is have men taken up the biological responsibilty ? No. A domesticated man is seen as not manly. If i go to work ,you go to work, we pay equal bills ,you should be ready to bath the children ,and do other things. The second bolded says a typical male nairalander that cares to sing like a bird at any time "what do women bring to the table". Lol 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 2:35pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
JONNYSPUTE:lol ,you seem to be very thirsty for my reply |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 2:37pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
henryobinna:Lol, really?, thats a new one, atleast not here in Nigeria |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by JONNYSPUTE(m): 2:40pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:..Thirsty as in? I only quoted you because you just made sense. |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by henryobinna(m): 2:42pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Dimples0303: I'm afraid yes. Personally, I won't go into such a relationship. Obviously that's why more and more families are getting messed up. The American society is the worst hit, the whole trend has affected their young population. A whole lot of them are denouncing modern day feminists and feminism; that includes women as well denouncing 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 2:43pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ryan03:lol, i am flattered. 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 2:47pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Eyeness:lol, you mean the regurgitated lines he keeps spewing ,lol. I dont even have time for his antics ,i spotted the anger in his life with his first comment just knew something was wrong with him now that you have pointed out that his is an incel i guess his goons he mentioned are too. Lol my instincts were right afterall ,such a wounded lion.lol 1 Like |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ryan03(f): 2:55pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Dimples0303:base in this post, I'll like to ask, if the man provides for himself and the woman does same, who provide for the kids? Who do the chores? |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 2:56pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ryan03:lol good question. |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 3:05pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:Patriarchy doesn't necessarily mean misogyny or unfair treatment of women anymore than matriarchy wouldn't necessarily mean misandry and unfair treatment of men. The cultural settings I highlighted was division of labour at it's finest. As long both men and women had responsibilities, there was no unfair treatment and whosoever enforced these responsibilities is irrelevant. It still wouldn't change the four points I gave. Women will be fully empowered when the laws of divorce are reviewed ,child support is in place , and traditions relating to girl child inheritance ,child marriage , widow maltreatment etc are scrapped.Women are already empowered. They already have rights and opportunities as men. If that is not enough for you, you are on your own. So you think women need divorce laws and child support laws to be empowered? You are indirectly admitting that women need to somehow extract a man's resources to be empowered. You have got to be kidding me. Your agenda to bring over the misandric injustices we see in the divorce courts of developed countries will not work. Women are already empowered and are not oppressed. Their destinies are their own hands. Let them go and hustle. So this is what you are all about. By the way, no one is maltreating widows. Funny how you think setting up divorce laws and child support laws are empowering. I knew, and I said, that all these women empowerment talks are ridiculous garbages, romancing of nonexistent oppression of women, and such "women empowerment" invariably has ulterior motives. I am emmaodet argued this with someone. The issues of widow maltreatment and girl child inheritance are issues that are behind us except in few societies like Islamic societies. JONNYSPUTE, emmaodet, Omar09, CAPSLOCKED, AstroG, healthserve. How Do I Understand/satisfy My Husband?You are missing the point. You claimed women are taking double responsibilities and men ought to solely provide. My argument was that men don't owe women a dime, it is not incumbent on men to provide, and women don't have double responsibilities. If i go to work ,you go to work, we pay equal bills ,you should be ready to bath the children ,and do other things.Lol. Women are usually guilty of not keeping up to this. Go figure! Even feminists run to comfort and support the idea that men are to provide when sh!t hit the fan and most women, even feminists, still practice "my money is my money, your money is our money". The scenerios you are crying over are nonexistent. Given all these privileges and hypocrisy, women stand more to lose and men stand to gain more if what you wrote is to be enacted. The bolded says a typical male nairalander that cares to sing like a bird at any time "what do women bring to the table". LolWho would you rather have in your life, someone that brings sex or someone that brings money? Food for thought. 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 3:15pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Eyeness:Hahahahaha. I expected more rude remarks, shaming, and insults but you tried. Give your self a round of applause. @Ladycewhy, since you have taken the discussion away from reasoning into shaming and throwing rude remarks, I end our fruitless discussion. 1 Like |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 3:17pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Martinez39:what a load of delusion grandeur, lol do you know how many women are kicked out every day of their marital homes everyday? Go to welfare and see pending cases, do you know how many families still don't believe in girl child inheritance my tribe for one still does it, do you know how many widows still suffer maltreatment.If you call providing equal support for your kids as injustice it shows just how much of a misguided incel you truly are lol,no wonder we have so many deadbeat dads in Nigeria. Women are no longer caged like it was in the old days where leaving your marriage was a taboo and a dishonour to your family name but we are not where we have to be yet. Many of the things i mentioned are still very much in the Nigerian society and this is what feminism should be chasing. And by the way ,you are not in the position to tell women if they are empowered enough,i feel you feel threatened or something to think that status quo is OK like this,lol. 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 3:20pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Martinez39:you have been ending it since your very first comment, but for some reason you just cant help it,lol 1 Like |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 3:24pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:I am no more arguing with you. All I can say is that in culpable tribes (which are a very small minority and whose practices are dying out), channel your feminism. All women need are the same rights and opportunities as men. They don't need child support laws and divorce laws. If you fear that a woman can get kicked out, why don't you fear that a woman can abandon her husband? I am not surprised since with feminism, women are victims men are oppressors. Good day. I will no longer argue with you. Say what you want. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 3:27pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:Each time I say "good day" or "I rest my case", it is usually when I present arguments that are sound and can't be refuted and I mean to say K. O. Don't worry, I have explicitly stated that I won't argue with you again in my last post and I will keep to it. |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 3:34pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Martinez39:lol na that one dey fear you , taking care if your children,cos for now you can kick a woman out with children and nothing will happen even if that woman has been spliting the bills with you ,,you can wake up one day and say you dont like the way she cooks her stew and kick her out, lol. But come o why do you see it as an injustice to take care of your children, that choice of word from you is very interesting.lol.child support is an injustice ,how cool no wonder dead beat dads litter Nigeria. A woman doesn't kick out ,you are comparing apples and oranges ,a stranded woman with kids and a man left in a shelter are two different things.lol . I can give 20 cases of women thrown out and stranded while you will struggle to get one for a man stranded after his wife left him in a house. You are so convinced that you have the facts where as you don't ,lol women are empowered enough, lol how deluded. Either you dont live in Nigeria ,like to lie to yourself or live under a rock to have convinced yourself that women are empowered enough in Nigeria.lol 4 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 3:38pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Martinez39:lol see this one, in your tiwsted incel mind ,lol . Even a mad man is sane to himself,nor be you wan tell me say your argument dey sound, you are a self conceited person ,and that is the youngest brother of narcissists,you said feminist are toxic but it seems your own toxicity is glaring ,lol. I think this is part of the side effects of those pills you keep taking,lol 1 Like |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Nobody: 3:54pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
henryobinna: I can respect the bolded. |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Nobody: 4:16pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ryan03: These are the questions that bother you people? This is a joke... Put the kids in the bin and dash the dishes in after them... 1 Like |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by MichaelBukamzy(m): 5:06pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
You're having a meaningfull debate with these biitches to either educate them or learn from them next thing you would see is insults upon insults.they result to insults whenever they run short of valid points to back up their rants. What these bitches want from a nigga!!! 1 Like |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Korllami007: 5:46pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
MichaelBukamzy: If they don't understand logic and deductive reasons, na insult go next. It's only Dimples that understands him better. What Martinez has been is very simple. If a woman wants a man to be a provider, which is traditional role of men living in the past, then that woman should be ready to become a traditional wife too by doing house chores, cooking, and taking care of the kids. You want your man to be a traditional husband but you want to be modern wife. That's double standard. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 5:53pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Korllami007:are women of this days not doing chores ,taking care of kids and cooking along side with sharing bills ? I am lost please tell me or have these roles been given to modern Nigerian men that i dont know of? As for your assertion, i am sure you were blind of the way he described feminist like he had a bone to pick with them ,well turns out he is a self conceited fellow who is just as toxic as well. Lol 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by JONNYSPUTE(m): 5:58pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Korllami007:.. When Martinez arrived at this,I thought the whole arguments will end but no it didn't. You know why?They will never agree with Martinez submission. Martinez39 strong walahi. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by MichaelBukamzy(m): 6:08pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Korllami007:simple!!! Someone raised a valid point instead of the biitch to argue it inteligently,she started throwing shades upon shades at both the guy and the lady that agreed with him.unfortunately for her imature ass they both were'nt ready for her childish insults.i swear most of these biitches can't even face or speak to martinez or ubunja in real life. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 6:11pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
MichaelBukamzy:lol, why didn't you quote me to say this ,or you dey fear? Lol. We know your type mr bitch talker. Lol 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 6:14pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
JONNYSPUTE:and as for you since you are thirsty ,can you tell me where modern women have stopped taking care of children ,doing chores etc, except for the fact that ontop of that she even now has to share bills with men ,lol 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by MichaelBukamzy(m): 6:19pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Ladycewhy:Normaly i weigh biitches on their level of intelligence and IQ before engaging them on a debate like this.i'm sorry mrs feminist you aint qualified.we know the real/reasonable feminists when we see them. Peace |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(f): 6:26pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
MichaelBukamzy:lol,says another incel with a mixture of stupidity and a gene of asshole lol. You have nothing to say ,lol, your mentors you are here fighting for can be ancestors or ancient of days ,for their pockets lol,who dem epp? Wetin dey their face to? Lol . Oya shame the devil and drop something sensible and not rant. I am sure you were blind to the shades that flew at me first ,lol obviously i didnt expect you to see it being that you are blinded by your asshole gene,dickhead peace to you too lol. 2 Likes |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 6:41pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
JONNYSPUTE:Nna, I weak o. I could have continued debunking and deconstructing her irrational and directionless arguments but I can't go on forever. Women have rights and opportunities as men but, according to the op, it's not empowerment and women need the evil divorce laws and child support laws in the US and other developed countries to be empowered. What sort of logic is that? So divorce laws and child support are women empowerments? You can see we have a crook here. So she needs misandric laws that can be abused to ruthlessly extort money from men before she can be empowered? She and her kind want to open a pandora box. In life, every decision has it consequences and we must not create a society that absolves individuals of being held accountable. No man forced any woman to marry and no woman forced any man to marry. The risks of marriage include disappointment and unfaithfulness from a spouse, making sacrifices that are eventually futile, a complete turn around in the attitude of your spouse etc. You have no excuse to not be aware of the risks of marriage and it is your responsibility to bear the consequences if your marriage choices backfire and your marriage hits rock-bottom instead of running to the government soliciting child support and alimony. If you can't take the risk, don't get married or don't, as a woman, open your legs and get pregnant for some fvck boy. If op is so concerned about fathers leaving their children, what happens to suing for parental neglect? Why child support and alimony? Because we have a crook and hypocrite on our hands. She has ulterior motives. If a woman has an abusive husband, let her leave the marriage and let him be punished under the law as an abuser. Its wrong if he is asked to compensate with his properties and cash because women will abuse such laws to set their husbands up and government could tax the money (like they do in the USA) and boom, we have a law that government is motivated to keep and exploit alongside with women. The same applies to alimony and child support. Marriage would turn to a business scheme with the divorce and alimony laws we see in western countries. The price the man needs to pay will keep rising. During a divorce, both individuals in a marriage should be separated such that none makes away with the other's assets or cash. It's funny how she thinks men don't like taking care of their children while forgetting the one's that dump and kill their new borns. The only thing government must get involved in is parental neglect and when it comes to financially taking care of the kids, the husband and wife must be held accountable no matter what. Nothing stops the women from building wealth before and during the marriage, same with man. All things being equal, custody should be given to who earns more except if the person wants joint custody or grants sole custody to the other. Bad choices, bad consequences. I rest my case. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 6:49pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
Korllami007:Don't mind her. By her logic, I am an incel for holding the views I have. Once unintelligent and emotional people can't refute your claims, they start insulting or shaming you. I am not surprised. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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