A40:

Rubbish. Only Bronsexuals are busy confusing sports banter for hate. Isn't it Bronsexuals that lie unprovoked that MJ got suspended and swear he got his dad killed. That's real hate not the piffle you're chatting here.

Of course LeNomad is more Magic but averaged 6 more shots per game. I don't know why Bronsexuals will not stop propagating this silly myth

Magic is a career 13 shots per game guy who averaged 11asts per game

LeNomad is a career 19.6 shots per game guy averaging 7 asts per game while mostly surrounded by shooters

But naïve ninjas swear LeNomad is a pass first guy a la Magic. We don't believe you you need more people

First of all, everyone here can see you're more of a bronsexual than i am, it goes both ways. If the mention of LeBron gets you riled up you're a bronsexual. Seeing as you relate everyone and every debate to lebron you're the biggest bronsexual on this thread.

Refusing to give someone credit when credit is due or irrationally hoping someone fails or consistently throwing insults at someone is sports banter? LMAO! The things you people say to justify your paltry vices.

No one said lebron is magic completely, dont twist my words please. But hes more Magic than MJ in the sense that he gets off on getting teammates involved more than scoring. His obsession with making the right play rather than playing into emotions. Hes not magic or jordan or dr j or moses malone. Hes a little bit of each of those guys and thats what makes him so special.

What the bloodclart are you chatting about? What does race have to do with anything? Blacks are barely an 8th of the entire US population.

Jerry Rice?? Was Jerry Rice a Quarterback? WTF are you smoking??

By player and by position Tom Brady has surpassed both Jerry Rice and Joe Montana. In Super Bowl rings, Superbowl MVPs and in League MVPs, no sane human being after watching Tom Brady win 3 of the last 5 Superbowls is comparing him to Montana or a receiver who can't even throw himself the ball

I mentioned his standing in the basketball community and then made emphasis on his standing in the black community.

Dont really give a rats furry bum about american football but from what i understand tom brady has been the beneficiary of the greatest nfl coach of all time with one of the greatest defenses of all time. Its quite simple, is tom brady the best quarterback in todays football? every reasonable soul in this world will say no, Patrick mahomes or maybe russell wilson will take that crown. Somehow tom brady and the patriots are the favorites and he'll probably win it all, is that because tom brady is the GOAT or hes on the best team in the NFL? Simple concept, yet you lot cant seem to understand it to save your souls.

Holding the fact that rice is a receiver against him is so funny. The thing is one can safely argue that lawrence taylor was greater than brady. Fact is as far as individual brilliance, those numbers rice has, its not even close. Most rankings I've seen confirm to this. Most recent I've seen was to mark some NFL anniversary and guess who was on top?

Who are these older generation that think KAJ is the GOAT? KAJ who was arguably not even the best player in most of the titles the Lakers won?

KAJ was considered the GOAT before MJ and is still held to that status by a few, especially many who played during mjs era.

He's a much better player than your LeNomad who is a career 38% shooter from anywhere outside 3ft. More offensive moves in the perimeter and the post, better offensive rebounder, better shot blocker, better defender, better free throw shooter, better in the clutch better at everything and was more efficient than LeNomad despite not playing in an analytics era. Let that sink in.

Jordan has the highest PER both in the regular season and postseason.

KAJ vs lebron is an argument i can entertain, i certainly think KAJ is the 2nd greatest player of all time after lebron so i can see how someone can make that argument. But bruh some of the points you made... LMAO This dude actually spoke of lebrons outside shooting and a second later compared him to kareem. Bruhh Man i'm dead.

Tagging Messi and Ronaldo the GOAT is directly related to their titles and goals record, stop blowing fallacies

Cristiano Ronaldo has won more CL titles (5) and CL Golden Boots than anyone else in the modern era. He also led Madrid to a 3peat. A feat that had never been achieved in CL history. Sounds familiar?

Messi is a close second with 4. Stop telling fibs

Good that you brought that up. Does all this make Ronaldo better than Messi? I know you can be delusional but not this delusional. I used to deny messis greatness but that man is by far better than Ronaldo. If Ronaldo is so good lets see him lead juventus to a UCL title no? why did he fail last season since the GOAT is always supposed to win regardless of circumstances. Messi is literally better at everything than ronaldo except jumping. But ronaldo has more team accolades. So yeah. Thank you for making my argument for me.

KarnBarlow:

First of all, everyone here can see you're more of a bronsexual than i am, it goes both ways. If the mention of LeBron gets you riled up you're a bronsexual. Seeing as you relate everyone and every debate to lebron you're the biggest bronsexual on this thread.

I talk about any and everything on this forum. Don't ascribe your title to me. You're the only notorious and obnoxious Bronsexual on this thread. All my anti-Bronsexual banter is purely basketball. You're the disgusting lot who once alluded to MJ having a hand in his old man's death. Only Bronsexuals like you will stoop that low

KarnBarlow:

Refusing to give someone credit when credit is due or irrationally hoping someone fails or consistently throwing insults at someone is sports banter? LMAO! The things you people say to justify your paltry vices.

You're such a hypocrite it's laughable. It's almost like you don't understand you're guilty of this exact same thing you're spewing. Look at the mirror this is literally you

KarnBarlow:

No one said lebron is magic completely, dont twist my words please. But hes more Magic than MJ in the sense that he gets off on getting teammates involved more than scoring. His obsession with making the right play rather than playing into emotions. Hes not magic or jordan or dr j or moses malone. Hes a little bit of each of those guys and thats what makes him so special.

So he's unoriginal and a copycat like we have been saying all along. LeNomad is a scorer that can pass, he is not more Magic anything. The numbers don't back that up. This silly myth must be exposed at all costs

KarnBarlow:

I mentioned his standing in the basketball community and then made emphasis on his standing in the black community.

Irrelevant. There was a GOAT before MJ became GOAT. MJ surpassed it by merit not his standing in any community. MJ is a bigger phenomenon worldwide than even amongst blacks. Don't equate this to something as minute in this context as race. That's lazy as hell

KarnBarlow:

Dont really give a rats furry bum about american football but from what i understand tom brady has been the beneficiary of the greatest nfl coach of all time with one of the greatest defenses of all time. Its quite simple, is tom brady the best quarterback in todays football? every reasonable soul in this world will say no, Patrick mahomes or maybe russell wilson will take that crown. Somehow tom brady and the patriots are the favorites and he'll probably win it all, is that because tom brady is the GOAT or hes on the best team in the NFL? Simple concept, yet you lot cant seem to understand it to save your souls.

Lmaoooo you're Jon Snow. You know absolutely nothing. Go and look up Bill Belichick with the Browns and come back to tell me what he achieved with those teams in 5 years as coach, tell us what he achieved with Drew Bledsoe at QB before Tom Brady came to rescue him from an ignominious exit from New England. He was 5-11 and 0-2 in his second season in Foxboro before GOAT Brady came to save him

Tom Brady is 42 nigga!! He's not supposed to be the best Quarterback in today's football. And yet he's been to 3 Superbowls in a row and was league MVP aged 40.

19 years of Patriots dominance on the field and the only common denominator is Brady

KarnBarlow:

Holding the fact that rice is a receiver against him is so funny. The thing is one can safely argue that lawrence taylor was greater than brady because as far as individual brilliance, does numbers rice has, its not even close.

There is a reason the Quarterback is tagged the most important position in Sports. You can debate who is the greatest till you're blue in the face but Tom Brady has more individual and team accolades than any of these guys you listed and can influence the outcome of a game more than any of these guys. Fair or not that's the reality

KarnBarlow:

KAJ was considered the GOAT before MJ and is still held to that status by a few, especially many who played during mjs era.

He wasn't even the best Showtime Laker. Please the KAJ ship sailed very quickly

KarnBarlow:

KAJ vs lebron is an argument i can entertain, i certainly think KAJ is the 2nd greatest player of all time after lebron so i can see how someone can make that argument. But bruh some of the points you made... LMAO This dude actually spoke of lebrons outside shooting and a second later compared him to kareem. Bruhh Man i'm dead.

Nobody cares what you entertain. The poll says it all

But it's true. Your man's a 38% from outside 3ft. I mean you lot come here to shyte on Giannis but LeNomad is barely better. So much for efficiency if only Kobe took more shots from 3ft maybe he would be more efficient

KarnBarlow:

Good that you brought that up. Does all this make Ronaldo better than Messi? I know you can be delusional but not this delusional. I used to deny messis greatness but that man is by far better than Ronaldo. If Ronaldo is so good lets see him lead juventus to a UCL title no? why did he fail last season since the GOAT is always supposed to win regardless of circumstances. Messi is literally better at everything than ronaldo except jumping. But ronaldo has more team accolades. So yeah. Thank you for making my argument for me.

You're crazy.
Of course Ronaldo is better than Messi. Put Ronaldo anywhere. In the EPL, La Liga, For Portugal and Cristiano Ronaldo dominates. We saw at the last World Cup how one man MOPOL Ronaldo fought Spain to a standstill.

If Ronaldo is so good let Ronaldo lead Juventus to a CL title? Are you on crack? Ronaldo led Real Madrid to not two, not three but 4 CL titles as the undisputed best player on the team and you're talmbout let him lead Juventus to a title. He doesn't need to lead Juventus to a goddamn Scudetto never mind a CL

What did Messi win outside Barcelona? How many CLs has Messi won as the best player in his squad

Ronaldo has nothing left to prove. Nothing! Messi has not won a CL in almost 5 seasons but it's Ronaldo who won a CL title just last year that has a point to prove. What a joke!

A40:
Ahhh but Giannis really bricking everything this 4th quarter. Lmaoooo missed all 9 shots! This is Westbrook level of bricko mode

Melo still looks nice man. Can't believe he was out of the league that long.

Thus far, Giannis has not shown me anything different from what we saw last season or the entirety of his career when he became popular. He has not taken that next step I was anticipating. I am not questioning his quality but just saying..

Roland17:


Thus far, Giannis has not shown me anything different from what we saw last season or the entirety of his career when he became popular. He has not taken that next step I was anticipating. I am not questioning his quality but just saying..

Giannis isn't even 25. I don't know what leap you would have him make at this point and how a u-25 year old is supposed to be flawless with no holes in his game

Even James Harden and Westbrook at this age and stage of their careers still have many glaring weaknesses so perhaps Giannis isn't the only one that needs to take that next step

A40:
With MJ their best player in all the series he played. Every single one! 6 Finals MVPs. Nobody has ever won more than 3

Iverson has 1 MVP, 0 finals MVP, 0 titles, but guess what, he's top 20 all time, probably top 15 for some.

A40:

Rubbish. Only Bronsexuals are busy confusing sports banter for hate. Isn't it Bronsexuals that lie unprovoked that MJ got suspended and swear he got his dad killed. That's real hate not the piffle you're chatting here.

Of course LeNomad is more Magic but averaged 6 more shots per game. I don't know why Bronsexuals will not stop propagating this silly myth

Magic is a career 13 shots per game guy who averaged 11asts per game

LeNomad is a career 19.6 shots per game guy averaging 7 asts per game while mostly surrounded by shooters

But naïve ninjas swear LeNomad is a pass first guy a la Magic. We don't believe you you need more people


What the bloodclart are you chatting about? What does race have to do with anything? Blacks are barely an 8th of the entire US population.

Jerry Rice?? Was Jerry Rice a Quarterback? WTF are you smoking??

By player and by position Tom Brady has surpassed both Jerry Rice and Joe Montana. In Super Bowl rings, Superbowl MVPs and in League MVPs, no sane human being after watching Tom Brady win 3 of the last 5 Superbowls is comparing him to Montana or a receiver who can't even throw himself the ball


Who are these older generation that think KAJ is the GOAT? KAJ who was arguably not even the best player in most of the titles the Lakers won?

He's a much better player than your LeNomad who is a career 38% shooter from anywhere outside 3ft. More offensive moves in the perimeter and the post, better offensive rebounder, better shot blocker, better defender, better free throw shooter, better in the clutch better at everything and was more efficient than LeNomad despite not playing in an analytics era. Let that sink in.

Jordan has the highest PER both in the regular season and postseason.

Tagging Messi and Ronaldo the GOAT is directly related to their titles and goals record, stop blowing fallacies

Cristiano Ronaldo has won more CL titles (5) and CL Golden Boots than anyone else in the modern era. He also led Madrid to a 3peat. A feat that had never been achieved in CL history. Sounds familiar?

Messi is a close second with 4. Stop telling fibs

Lol. This nigga is trying g to convince himself. Go on

steady986:

Iverson has 1 MVP, 0 finals MVP, 0 titles, but guess what, he's top 20 all time, probably top 15 for some.

I know I can always count on you to yarn Okoto meow kutukutu meow meow skrrrrrrrr skrr completely unrelated to the argument

steady986:

Iverson has 1 MVP, 0 finals MVP, 0 titles, but guess what, he's top 20 all time, probably top 15 for some.

Somebody that is not in top 3 SG of all time o. he is the one in top 15.

A40:

I talk about any and everything on this forum. Don't ascribe your title to me. You're the only notorious and obnoxious Bronsexual on this thread. All my anti-Bronsexual banter is purely basketball. You're the disgusting lot who once alluded to MJ having a hand in his old man's death. Only Bronsexuals like you will stoop that low

Whatever you say, bronsexual.

You're such a hypocrite it's laughable. It's almost like you don't understand you're guilty of this exact same thing you're spewing. Look at the mirror this is literally you

LOL I'm gunning for someone to fail? who?

So he's unoriginal and a copycat like we have been saying all along. LeNomad is a scorer that can pass, he is not more Magic anything. The numbers don't back that up. This silly myth must be exposed at all costs

Original? Because he took from the games of those that came before him?

So the forward who has more assists than any other forward in NBA history and averages more assists than all the great forwards in NBA history who by the way is currently playing PG and leading the league in assists who has been notorious for trying to get his teammates involved before getting off himself, this guy is not more magic anything Lebron is a swiss army knife, but right from his high school days, he has always been about his assists.

Irrelevant. There was a GOAT before MJ became GOAT. MJ surpassed it by merit not his standing in any community. MJ is a bigger phenomenon worldwide than even amongst blacks. Don't equate this to something as minute in this context as race. That's lazy as hell

Keep confusing yourself. I did not say its just about race. I mentioned his standing in basketball as a whole and his special standing in the black community, if what i said about the black community is all you saw you need to see an optometrist.

Lmaoooo you're Jon Snow. You know absolutely nothing. Go and look up Bill Belichick with the Browns and come back to tell me what he achieved with those teams in 5 years as coach, tell us what he achieved with Drew Bledsoe at QB before Tom Brady came to rescue him from an ignominious exit from New England. He was 5-11 and 0-2 in his second season in Foxboro before GOAT Brady came to save him

Tom Brady is 42 nigga!! He's not supposed to be the best Quarterback in today's football. And yet he's been to 3 Superbowls in a row and was league MVP aged 40.

19 years of Patriots dominance on the field and the only common denominator is Brady
There is a reason the Quarterback is tagged the most important position in Sports. You can debate who is the greatest till you're blue in the face but Tom Brady has more individual and team accolades than any of these guys you listed and can influence the outcome of a game more than any of these guys. Fair or not that's the reality.

Way did skip through the point while making my point at the same time. Something is making the patriots as good as they are. Its certainly not brady.

He wasn't even the best Showtime Laker. Please the KAJ ship sailed very quickly

Doesnt matter, he may have gone there at the latter stages of his career but put some respect on the captains name. 6 MVPs, 19x all star, 15x all NBA, 11 times all defense.

Nobody cares what you entertain. The poll says it all

The more you see the less you understand.

But it's true. Your man's a 38% from outside 3ft. I mean you lot come here to shyte on Giannis but LeNomad is barely better. So much for efficiency if only Kobe took more shots from 3ft maybe he would be more efficient

But we've seen LeBron destroy teams with his jumper in the playoffs. In fact some of his greatest games were sealed by the potency of his jumpers. Go ask the spurs or the celtics or the raptors how bad a shooter LeBron is. Its a less potent poison, but he has delivered with it nonetheless. Giannis doesnt have even half the consistency of lebrons jumper, especially in the playoffs. Oh LeBron is a better 3 pt shooter than Kobe and MJ so...

You're crazy.
Of course Ronaldo is better than Messi. Put Ronaldo anywhere. In the EPL, La Liga, For Portugal and Cristiano Ronaldo dominates. We saw at the last World Cup how one man MOPOL Ronaldo fought Spain to a standstill.

If Ronaldo is so good let Ronaldo lead Juventus to a CL title? Are you on crack? Ronaldo led Real Madrid to not two, not three but 4 CL titles as the undisputed best player on the team and you're talmbout let him lead Juventus to a title. He doesn't need to lead Juventus to a goddamn Scudetto never mind a CL

What did Messi win outside Barcelona? How many CLs has Messi won as the best player in his squad

Ronaldo has nothing left to prove. Nothing! Messi has not won a CL in almost 5 seasons but it's Ronaldo who won a CL title just last year that has a point to prove. What a joke!

The fact that you can watch football and somehow conclude that Ronaldo is better than Messi just sums up how subjective you are with everything. I hated the little man, i hate barcelona but if you watch that man and conclude that Ronaldo is better you need serious help. Me not liking messi doesnt stop me from giving him the respect he deserves. See unlike you, i am not a hater.

It would be so great to see a lakers vs bucks finals match up. AD vs Giannis. Someone is going to get molested on live TV. I know its unlikely, but one can only dream.

A40:
Giannis isn't even 25. I don't know what leap you would have him make at this point and how a u-25 year old is supposed to be flawless with no holes in his game

Even James Harden and Westbrook at this age and stage of their careers still have many glaring weaknesses so perhaps Giannis isn't the only one that needs to take that next step

Baba, taking the next steps means diversifying/ expanding his offense. Maybe that is not a requirement but I think it makes it difficult and almost impossible to game plan against him and helps his all around game. At this point his offense is way too predictable and he gets away with a lot of foul calls but it can be easily nuked and that is what bothers me. Who knows, maybe it is not necessary that he expands his offense past what it is now.

Roland17:


Baba, taking the next steps means diversifying/ expanding his offense. Maybe that is not a requirement but I think it makes it difficult and almost impossible to game plan against him and helps his all around game. At this point his offense is way too predictable and he gets away with a lot of foul calls but it can be easily nuked and that is what bothers me. Who knows, maybe it is not necessary that he expands his offense past what it is now.

Ok let's play a little game. Aside the GOAT himself I want you to honestly list 5 guys who before they turned 25 had no weaknesses in their game either mentality wise or with their oncourt skillset. Like at 25 you could say this guy it's impossible to game plan against him.

Did you watch the Bucks and Blazers? I did and Giannis was clobbered Everytime he got into the paint. He didn't get nearly enough calls as he deserved

A 25 year old in any field of human endeavor is still in the stage of improving, but Giannis just like every other player will always have their limitations

donlittle25:


Somebody that is not in top 3 SG of all time o. he is the one in top 15.

I know you'll want to list your top 3 shooting guards as
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. Klay.
That's how deluded you are

A40:
I know I can always count on you to yarn Okoto meow kutukutu meow meow skrrrrrrrr skrr completely unrelated to the argument

Because you went ahead to list MJ accolades, so I had to bring you back to earth.

KarnBarlow:

Whatever you say, bronsexual.

Truth hurts Bronsexual

KarnBarlow:

LOL I'm gunning for someone to fail? who?

The evidence is everywhere

KarnBarlow:

Original? Because he took from the games of those that came before him?

So the forward who has more assists than any other forward in NBA history and averages more assists than all the great forwards in NBA history who by the way is currently playing PG and leading the league in assists who has been notorious for trying to get his teammates involved before getting off himself, this guy is not more magic anything Lebron is a swiss army knife, but right from his high school days, he has always been about his assists.

Of course let's ignore the era of basketball, the talent he has played with and the fact that he has been surrounded by shooters for the sizable chunk of his career. A ninja who took 2 fewer shots than MJ and 6 more than Magic is a scorer that can pass. Doesn't make him more Magic anymore than Giannis Antetokounmpo is more Magic just means he can pass.

LeNomad has never not led his team in FGA. He is a scorer first before passer. Stop spreading these lies

KarnBarlow:

Keep confusing yourself. I did not say its just about race. I mentioned his standing in basketball as a whole and his special standing in the black community, if what i said about the black community is all you saw you need to see an optometrist.

MJ's status has nothing to do with his blackness or how he is seen within the black community. Stop being deliberately obtuse!

He is more of a global icon. In the black community after all we have clowns like you who tagged him stingy and a corporate sellout. Though just recently when push came to shove we actually found out who the real corporate sellout was

KarnBarlow:

Way did skip through the point while making my point at the same time. Something is making the patriots as good as they are. Its certainly not brady.

You're horribly clueless. At 42 Tom Brady has earned the right to be carried after 4 Superbowl MVPs, 6 rings and 3 Regular season MVPs. Feat no single Patriot or NFL player living or dead has ever and probably would ever achieve

As recently as 2017 he was voted league MVP. Last season he beat the so-called MVP Patrick Mahomes in his own stadium and then beat him in Foxboro as well. He is old enough to sire Patrick Mahomes and he did sire him on the field. I know another notorious Bronsexual like yourself Nick Wright who comes on TV trying to slander Tom Brady. It's ridiculous how uninformed you zombies can be

KarnBarlow:

Doesnt matter, he may have gone there at the latter stages of his career but put some respect on the captains name. 6 MVPs, 19x all star, 15x all NBA, 11 times all defense.

Not even the best Showtime Laker though.

KarnBarlow:

[s]The more you see the less you understand.[/s]

KarnBarlow:

But we've seen LeBron destroy teams with his jumper in the playoffs. In fact some of his greatest games were sealed by the potency of his jumpers. Go ask the spurs or the celtics or the raptors how bad a shooter LeBron is. Its a less potent poison, but he has delivered with it nonetheless. Giannis doesnt have even half the consistency of lebrons jumper, especially in the playoffs. Oh LeBron is a better 3 pt shooter than Kobe and MJ so...

How long did he take to get a jumper? Don't shoot yourself in the foot because you came here to admit it. He's still a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft. Winning the odd game with a purple patch of shooting does not change zilch

M.J averaged less than 2 3 point attempts per game, LeNomad averaged almost 6.

LeNomad - 34%
MJ - 32%

The margin is infinitesimal and still doesn't negate my argument that LeNomad is a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft and so Giannis does not have nearly as much ground to cover as you claim

KarnBarlow:

The fact that you can watch football and somehow conclude that Ronaldo is better than Messi just sums up how subjective you are with everything. I hated the little man, i hate barcelona but if you watch that man and conclude that Ronaldo is better you need serious help. Me not liking messi doesnt stop me from giving him the respect he deserves. See unlike you, i am not a hater.

This is an extremely obtuse assertion to make. One player might be more naturally gifted but at some point results, performances in crucial games and other metrics have to count as well.

Cristiano won 5 Champions League titles on two different teams as the undisputed best player on his team and a crazeman is telling me I can't conclude Ronaldo is better. Who died and made you judge and jury on that?

steady986:

Because you went ahead to list MJ accolades, so I had to bring you back to earth.

I know it's Friday but unless you're in the Middle East or the Orient as we speak it's far too early in the day to be drunk

steady986:

I know you'll want to list your top 3 shooting guards as
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. Klay.
That's how deluded you are

There is someone called Wade dopemu.

A40:
Ok let's play a little game. Aside the GOAT himself I want you to honestly list 5 guys who before they turned 25 had no weaknesses in their game either mentality wise or with their oncourt skillset. Like at 25 you could say this guy it's impossible to game plan against him.

Did you watch the Bucks and Blazers? I did and Giannis was clobbered Everytime he got into the paint. He didn't get nearly enough calls as he deserved

A 25 year old in any field of human endeavor is still in the stage of improving, but Giannis just like every other player will always have their limitations

At 25 and at this stage, can we agree Giannis is at the prime of his NBA career? I am not speaking projections or prospects, I am speaking of now from what we have seen? I believe the answer to this question is a yes.
Again, except the expectation is for him to stick to this current style and not look to expand his offense then I would not be bothered but if we are saying he needs to expand his game so he is not predictable, he has not done anything new to me then. The fact that he got clobbered and did not get calls last night buttressed the fact that he can be game planned for in contrast to expanding his offense. If he chooses to stick to his bread and butter, I will have no problems but I can not imagine how demonic he would be if he expands his offense.

A40:

Truth hurts Bronsexual

This is childish, bronsexual.

The evidence is everywhere

So who exactly am i gunning for to fail.

Of course let's ignore the era of basketball, the talent he has played with and the fact that he has been surrounded by shooters for the sizable chunk of his career. A ninja who took 2 fewer shots than MJ and 6 more than Magic is a scorer that can pass. Doesn't make him more Magic anymore than Giannis Antetokounmpo is more Magic just means he can pass.

LeNomad has never not led his team in FGA. He is a scorer first before passer. Stop spreading these lies

Magic has led his teams in scoring. Magic averages 20 and 11 for his career so hes not exactly dormant as far as scoring. LeBron averages 27 and 7 for his career. Hence the hybrid tag, hes a passer and a scorer and a rebounder. Also like magic a tall guy who handles the ball well and is one of the greatest passers of all time .As a player, his mentality, his build minus the athleticism, as far as always making the right play, all round more magic than jordan. Its just a fact. You cant put your feelings before facts. No one said LeBron is not a scorer. Like i said, swiss army knife.

MJ's status has nothing to do with his blackness or how he is seen within the black community. Stop being deliberately obtuse!

Bruh, i've explained my point multiple times and if still you can't understand and keep repeating yourself thats your business. At least any sensible person who read that knows what i meant.

He is more of a global icon. In the black community after all we have clowns like you who tagged him stingy and a corporate sellout. Though just recently when push came to shove we actually found out who the real corporate sellout was

Who here said hes not a global icon? Thats literally what i said before expanding further into what he means in certain communities especially. You may slander lebron for sticking by the league but what he has done and is doing in his communities nothing will change. The fact remains your man never did a fraction of what lebron does. And yeah he didnt criticize a country and a system that has lifted 700 million people out of poverty because of dumb american jingoism. What a sellout indeed.

You're horribly clueless. At 42 Tom Brady has earned the right to be carried after 4 Superbowl MVPs, 6 rings and 3 Regular season MVPs. Feat no single Patriot or NFL player living or dead has ever and probably would ever achieve

As recently as 2017 he was voted league MVP. Last season he beat the so-called MVP Patrick Mahomes in his own stadium and then beat him in Foxboro as well. He is old enough to sire Patrick Mahomes and he did sire him on the field. I know another notorious Bronsexual like yourself Nick Wright who comes on TV trying to slander Tom Brady. It's ridiculous how uninformed you zombies can be

You just talked about him being carried and in the same breath you talk about him beating someone singlehandedly. Sums up your confusion. You lot use super bowl rings to talk about him being the GOAT but you just admitted hes not solely responsible for them so how is that an accurate measure of his individual greatness? This patriots are the greatest nfl team? sure. I'm not saying hes not the greatest quarterback, hes just not the greatest overall football player.

Not even the best Showtime Laker though.

His career didnt start and end with the lakers. Still the second greatest player of all time.

How long did he take to get a jumper? Don't shoot yourself in the foot because you came here to admit it. He's still a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft. Winning the odd game with a purple patch of shooting does not change zilch

M.J averaged less than 2 3 point attempts per game, LeNomad averaged almost 6.

LeNomad - 34%
MJ - 32%

The margin is infinitesimal and still doesn't negate my argument that LeNomad is a career 38% shooter from outside 3ft and so Giannis does not have nearly as much ground to cover as you claim

What difference does it make? LeBron is effective now, you can't neutralize him in the playoffs like you can Giannis. He gets the job done and makes his jumpers when it counts. This isnt even about Giannis, kareem and shaq are basically useless outside of 3 ft and they're still top 5 cause it didnt matter for them like it does Giannis. Things have changed now and you need some shooting to lead a team in this league. Lebrons 38% percent doesnt matter cause all in all hes an efficient scorer and has still delivered in the playoffs.

This is an extremely obtuse assertion to make. One player might be more naturally gifted but at some point results, performances in crucial games and other metrics have to count as well.

Cristiano won 5 Champions League titles on two different teams as the undisputed best player on his team and a crazeman is telling me I can't conclude Ronaldo is better. Who died and made you judge and jury on that?

Just name one thing Ronaldo does better than messi apart from head the ball. Messis a better dribbler, passer, scorer, dead ball specialist and has a much higher football IQ. You know you have no idea how much solace this brings me. Knowing this argument is against someone who thinks Ronaldo is better than Messi. I like ronaldo, i dont like messi, as a matter of fact i cant stand him. But facts are facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuoJ_ipNS-8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7kkbpcgXI8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQV3ePhe-kA


The bronsexual is questioning LeBrons shooting when he put on clinics like these in crucial playoff road games? Hes really comparing him to Giannis? By God, these bronsexuals will stop at nothing

Just watched that game 5 of the 2016 finals and it brought a tear to my eye. That song alone did my heart good. Greatest finals of all time.

Also, I miss Kyrie.

A40:
I know I can always count on you to yarn Okoto meow kutukutu meow meow skrrrrrrrr skrr completely unrelated to the argument

This reminds me of that FCMB clapback. I just knew I used to see it somewhere before the FCMB thing.


The sad thing is, you can't say anything about LeBron when it comes to Bronsexuals. You either slob on his knob 24/7 or keep quiet. You're not allowed to criticize or even give him credit when it's due because you don't buy into their delusion 24/7. It's futile. Even LeBron said he's chasing MJ's ghost and mentioned how he's trying to continue Kobe's legacy in LA and make Kobe proud but these ones can swear basketball was made because of LeBron. It's futile with these guys.

donlittle25:
There is someone called Wade dopemu.

Bobo yen sha. It's like he's always on a "say something dumb" challenge.

He's just 20 and will keep getting better. Too bad some believe he's just a prisoner of the moment.

SmooshCHN:
This reminds me of that FCMB clapback. I just knew I used to see it somewhere before the FCMB thing.


The sad thing is, you can't say anything about LeBron when it comes to Bronsexuals. You either slob on his knob 24/7 or keep quiet. You're not allowed to criticize or even give him credit when it's due because you don't buy into their delusion 24/7. It's futile. Even LeBron said he's chasing MJ's ghost and mentioned how he's trying to continue Kobe's legacy in LA and make Kobe proud but these ones can swear basketball was made because of LeBron. It's futile with these guys.

How long ago did lebron say hes chasing MJs ghost? He was asked if hes motivated my mj when they played chicago and the answer was a resounding no. And didnt lebron rightfully proclaim himself the GOAT? He can chase kobes legacy in LA all he wants but we know hes never going to match or surpass that, he can continue the legacy of winning but i dont know what this has to do with LeBron.


Are you mad because i brought up the 2016 finals smoosh? be honest

Smoosh is the perfect example of those false witnesses i speak of.

Oh we know they're shook. GOAT James.

Who wants to place a bet on the warriors game today?



Do they lose by 40 or 50?

KarnBarlow:


How long ago did lebron say hes chasing MJs ghost? He was asked if hes motivated my mj when they played chicago and the answer was a resounding no. And didnt lebron rightfully proclaim himself the GOAT? He can chase kobes legacy in LA all he wants but we know hes never going to match or surpass that, he can continue the legacy of winning but i dont know what this has to do with LeBron.

Ersan, you're smarter than that gibberish you tried to come up with. I'm neither surprised not disappointed. Try harder.

KarnBarlow:
Who wants to place a bet on the warriors game today?



Do they lose by 40 or 50?

you've been known to back out of bets so no one's gonna waste their time with on this one.

SmooshCHN:

Ersan, you're smarter than that gibberish you tried to come up with. I'm neither surprised not disappointed. Try harder.

You do realize that this is an oxymoron right?