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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:53am On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


I watched the match and it wasn't as one sided as you make it seem. Main thing is Wenger found a way to bottle all his attempts at European glory, even when he faced inferior teams.

Checking the stats 10 man Gala had more shots than you guys. Most of the memorable Taffarel saves in extra time when Hagi had already been sent off.

Also Taffarel while a good GK was never at any time the best GK in the world, not earlier in his career in the era of Walter Zenga and Schmeichel AND definitely not later in his career in the era of Schmeichel and Oliver Kahn.
Taffarel was the best goalie at the 94 world cup. He was the shot stopper that helped Brazil to win the WC. Internationally he was the best.

That's not taking anything from the Gala side. They were by all means deserving.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kbs468(m): 6:55am On Nov 23, 2019
Roland17:
For those who missed the Uruguay vs Argentina match, please do yourselves a favor to watch extended highlights with special focus on Torreira. Despite not playing regular club football, Torreira had a very dominant performance playing the deep role (DM). This man was doing everything, he intercepted passes, tackled perfectly, screened for the back 4, built the attack from deep and was involved in the set up for the first goal. This is his natural position as against the no 10/ CM role Emery has been forcing on him whenever he uses him. Torreira enjoys playing at the base and when there is an opportunity go forward. His ball playing skills helped Uruguay transition attack quicker from defense to attack. Sadly, at this point, I am convinced the man will leave Arsenal and I will definitely not forgive Emery for how he has mismanaged Torreira.
You are very correct about Torreira and I would only prefers he go while we bring in WILFRED NDIDI in place most especially now that XHAKA too is being eyed by NEWCASTLE UNITED
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:59am On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


You are the one overreacting because you obviously didn’t read the post i was responding to.

Saying “dem no born Fergie or JM if Wenger had spent money” is tantamount to overrating him.

Money was not the only difference.
The question is if Wenger had unlimited resources as Fergie then, would he have achieved more than Fergie?
Personally I believe he could.

But just as Sod pointed out, he was stubborn and arrogant and insisted in grooming and building stadiums instead of title cabins.
That was so unselfish of him though, but life is being a little bit selfish. He is a legend no doubt. He built Arsenal.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 7:10am On Nov 23, 2019
Spy360:

The question is if Wenger had unlimited resources as Fergie then, would he have achieved more than Fergie?
Personally I believe he could.

But just as Sod pointed out, he was stubborn and arrogant and insisted in grooming and building stadiums instead of title cabins.
That was so unselfish of him though, but life is being a little bit selfish. He is a legend no doubt. He built Arsenal.

This is why i say he was overrated. Saying he would have achieved more than Ferguson when there isn’t any good evidence to back it up.


Fergie won trophies locally and in Europe with and without money. His Aberdeen records exist.
And if we delve into the 1st 5-6 seasons of the EPL we will see multiple years in which he won titles without spending the most for that year.

But the excuse artists for Wenger are blaming lack of money for a life time of choking in Europe.

92/93 season Fergie won the league despite being no 7 on the expenditure list.

93/94 season he won again despite being no 2 on expenditure list.

95/96 season he won the league with kids despite being no 40 ( yes no 40) on the expenditure list.

96/97 he won the league despite being no 6 in expenditure.

In summary Fergie won 4 league titles in 5 years despite never spending the most in any year.

Finally. In their first 5 seasons together Wenger outspent Fergie in 3 of those seasons but it was Fergie that won 3 EPL titles with Wenger winning 2.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 1:34pm On Nov 23, 2019
Kbs468:

You are very correct about Torreira and I would only prefers he go while we bring in WILFRED NDIDI in place most especially now that XHAKA too is being eyed by NEWCASTLE UNITED
Torreia and Ndidi can form good partnership..
Xhaka can go and any other celebrity not willing to bust his lungs for us.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 2:44pm On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


This is why i say he was overrated. Saying he would have achieved more than Ferguson when there isn’t any good evidence to back it up.


Fergie won trophies locally and in Europe with and without money. His Aberdeen records exist.
And if we delve into the 1st 5-6 seasons of the EPL we will see multiple years in which he won titles without spending the most for that year.

But the excuse artists for Wenger are blaming lack of money for a life time of choking in Europe.

92/93 season Fergie won the league despite being no 7 on the expenditure list.

93/94 season he won again despite being no 2 on expenditure list.

95/96 season he won the league with kids despite being no 40 ( yes no 40) on the expenditure list.

96/97 he won the league despite being no 6 in expenditure.

In summary Fergie won 4 league titles in 5 years despite never spending the most in any year.

Finally. In their first 5 seasons together Wenger outspent Fergie in 3 of those seasons but it was Fergie that won 3 EPL titles with Wenger winning 2.
QED!!!

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:50pm On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


This is why i say he was overrated. Saying he would have achieved more than Ferguson when there isn’t any good evidence to back it up.


Fergie won trophies locally and in Europe with and without money. His Aberdeen records exist.
And if we delve into the 1st 5-6 seasons of the EPL we will see multiple years in which he won titles without spending the most for that year.

But the excuse artists for Wenger are blaming lack of money for a life time of choking in Europe.

92/93 season Fergie won the league despite being no 7 on the expenditure list.

93/94 season he won again despite being no 2 on expenditure list.

95/96 season he won the league with kids despite being no 40 ( yes no 40) on the expenditure list.

96/97 he won the league despite being no 6 in expenditure.

In summary Fergie won 4 league titles in 5 years despite never spending the most in any year.

Finally. In their first 5 seasons together Wenger outspent Fergie in 3 of those seasons but it was Fergie that won 3 EPL titles with Wenger winning 2.
The only point I can relate with is the 95/96 season.
You think we will just sit and believe those stats up there? No sir.
Show us links. Thanks.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 3:06pm On Nov 23, 2019
Line up. I hope Tierney gets to do his pull outs/crosses and the forward players latch on it for good

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 3:18pm On Nov 23, 2019
Spy360:
The only point I can relate with is the 95/96 season.
You think we will just sit and believe those stats up there? No sir.
Show us links. Thanks.


In the 5 seasons from from 1991/1992 to 1995/1996 Ferguson won the league 3 times and came 2nd the 2 other times despite being no 9 in expenditure.
Here is the link below.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/transfers/einnahmenausgaben/statistik/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=1991&saison_id_bis=1995&land_id=189&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kbs468(m): 3:20pm On Nov 23, 2019
ARSENAL starting Eleven vs SOUTHAMPTON



Arsenal XI: Leno; Chambers, Luiz, Sokratis; Bellerin, Guendouzi, Torreira, Tierney; Ozil; Lacazette, Aubameyang

Subs: Martinez, Mustafi, Maitland-Niles, Nelson, Pepe, Willock, Martinelli.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:37pm On Nov 23, 2019
3-5-2 ni Baba yi to sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 3:39pm On Nov 23, 2019
iamoyindamola:
3-5-2 ni Baba yi to sha

You guys will win this easily.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:41pm On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


You guys will win this easily.
Emery and his boys can bottle anything
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by afrodoc2: 3:59pm On Nov 23, 2019
iamoyindamola:
Emery and his boys can bottle anything

3-5-2 is the only formation that allows your 3 best attacking players to be on the pitch at the same time and play in their natural positions.
I have never really liked all this Auba on the wings stuff.

Play Auba and Laca through the middle with Ozil behind them and get your width with Bellerin and Tierney.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:03pm On Nov 23, 2019
Somebody tell Tierney dem no dey gamble for that kind position ó.

Na those.kind goals Ward-Prowse dem.dey score pass ó
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:07pm On Nov 23, 2019
See rubbish play from Lacazzette
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by obainojazz(m): 4:09pm On Nov 23, 2019
Good ebening grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pharod(m): 4:10pm On Nov 23, 2019
Danny Ings!

grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:11pm On Nov 23, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:11pm On Nov 23, 2019
Lmaooooooo grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:12pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ebening is going today
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:12pm On Nov 23, 2019
shocked shocked
Tierney and Bellerin will be back and we’ll win the league.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by thorrvik55(m): 4:12pm On Nov 23, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by DExponential(m): 4:12pm On Nov 23, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:16pm On Nov 23, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:18pm On Nov 23, 2019
Xhaka is the problem
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:20pm On Nov 23, 2019
1-1 it is
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:21pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ozil's impact can not be denied any more.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:23pm On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


In the 5 seasons from from 1991/1992 to 1995/1996 Ferguson won the league 3 times and came 2nd the 2 other times despite being no 9 in expenditure.
Here is the link below.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/transfers/einnahmenausgaben/statistik/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=1991&saison_id_bis=1995&land_id=189&nat=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0
Thanks.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:24pm On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


3-5-2 is the only formation that allows your 3 best attacking players to be on the pitch at the same time and play in their natural positions.
I have never really liked all this Auba on the wings stuff.

Play Auba and Laca through the middle with Ozil behind them and get your width with Bellerin and Tierney.
Great observation. All players playing their natural positions.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BikeMan: 4:25pm On Nov 23, 2019
iamoyindamola:
Ebening is going today
Na you go sack am?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:25pm On Nov 23, 2019
afrodoc2:


3-5-2 is the only formation that allows your 3 best attacking players to be on the pitch at the same time and play in their natural positions.
I have never really liked all this Auba on the wings stuff.

Play Auba and Laca through the middle with Ozil behind them and get your width with Bellerin and Tierney.

You are absolutely right about the offense but the back 3 predicts calamity/ confusion when we are defending with 5/6 players around the box. Arsenal players lack the discipline, positional awareness and communicate poorly which affects spacing. Ultimately no one is really accountable for opposing players and this has been prominent in how Arsenal have played.

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