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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 7:01am On Nov 24, 2019
How many games have we won since we dropped Xhaka.?


Fastest fingers, Anybody?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:08am On Nov 24, 2019
afrodoc2:


Hmmm well you talk am true true.
You guys have no good CB and no leader in central midfield. It is lack of leadership that makes that Guendouzi caress the ball a million times before passing it.
I like to read from the neutrals, no sentiment or emotions, they say it as it is..

You've said it right, The over 30yrs professional internationals who are supposed to lead the team and Marshall the defense requires Arterta and Ljumberg to come teach them basics and leadership..

Chambers,Holding and Mustafi are just "okay" not spectacular nor gradeA.

The midfield of Torreira,Guendozi,Xhaka,Ozil and Willock used to have what some fans here secretly in thier mind believe is a leader in XHAKA, but unfortunately the fans who see games live at the emirates booed him off and were even suggesting young players like Guen, bellerin and Holding to take over.

The situation is that bad, and its the reason why we suggest we get a big heart midfield destroyer in the mould of Viera like Ndidi or Thomas partey..

For me you can't rely on the Willocks,Guen and Torreira to guard your midfield in England for the whole season.
Torreira though, older and more matured among the trio, but he is not Alex Song yet, he still needs cover.
Lastly,like you rightly said, a team with a good coach and team leaders can correct simple stuffs like "carresing," the ball from players in thier formative stage.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:37am On Nov 24, 2019
afrodoc2:


Hmmm well you talk am true true.
You guys have no good CB and no leader in central midfield. It is lack of leadership that makes that Guendouzi caress the ball a million times before passing it.
Bro the whole team set up is rubbish, we are known for tikitaka and fast football yet you have one boy that would rather have like 10 touches or like been crowded just to draw a stupid foul.
We used xhaka/ torreira early last season enroute to the 20 games unbeaten run,I don't understand why some coaches are just stupid and stubborn
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 8:02am On Nov 24, 2019
We are getting to that time of the season where Arsenal fans abandon their thread...One by one, them go run leave here...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:22am On Nov 24, 2019
patrickmuf:
We are getting to that time of the season where Arsenal fans abandon their thread...One by one, them go run leave here...
You always think so high of yourself, we ain't you that run away after a defeat.
Btw what's dead will never die
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 9:11am On Nov 24, 2019
iamoyindamola:
You always think so high of yourself, we ain't you that run away after a defeat.
Btw what's dead will never die
Why do you always get worked up when trolled but you never hesitate to go to other fans thread to troll? Are you the only Arsenal fan on here?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:14am On Nov 24, 2019
patrickmuf:
Why do you always get worked up when trolled but you never hesitate to go to other fans thread to troll? Are you the only Arsenal fan on here?
Oga trolling is normal, not frustrating the people here to run away.
Just because you always run away doesn't mean we do here I never said anything bad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 9:22am On Nov 24, 2019
iamoyindamola:
Oga trolling is normal, not frustrating the people here to run away.
Just because you always run away doesn't mean we do here I never said anything bad
Lol how does the post below equate to frustrating people? Well, for your information, it's a trend I have noticed with your thread, in the first month of the season, you'll see monikers you have forgotten commenting here but come November/December, the interaction here reduces. I said it before the season began proper and it's already happening and this won't be the last time it happens...
patrickmuf:
We are getting to that time of the season where Arsenal fans abandon their thread...One by one, them go run leave here...

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:30am On Nov 24, 2019
patrickmuf:
Lol how does the post below equate to frustrating people? Well, for your information, it's a trend I have noticed with your thread, in the first month of the season, you'll see monikers you have forgotten commenting here but come November/December, the interaction here reduces. I said it before the season began proper and it's already happening and this won't be the last time it happens...
okay bye
You can get us a register then to know the number of guys that comment here, I know 5 of your guys that run away too. You they top the list bros so stick to club trolling and leave those who will leave the thread before December
Peace
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:52am On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

I like to read from the neutrals, no sentiment or emotions, they say it as it is..

You've said it right, The over 30yrs professional internationals who are supposed to lead the team and Marshall the defense requires Arterta and Ljumberg to come teach them basics and leadership..

Chambers,Holding and Mustafi are just "okay" not spectacular nor gradeA.

The midfield of Torreira,Guendozi,Xhaka,Ozil and Willock used to have what some fans here secretly in thier mind believe is a leader in XHAKA, but unfortunately the fans who see games live at the emirates booed him off and were even suggesting young players like Guen, bellerin and Holding to take over.

The situation is that bad, and its the reason why we suggest we get a big heart midfield destroyer in the mould of Viera like Ndidi or Thomas partey..

For me you can't rely on the Willocks,Guen and Torreira to guard your midfield in England for the whole season.
Torreira though, older and more matured among the trio, but he is not Alex Song yet, he still needs cover.
Lastly,like you rightly said, a team with a good coach and team leaders can correct simple stuffs like "carresing," the ball from players in thier formative stage.

The fact that he caresses the ball in an effort to always be at the centre of the camera and the manager keeps him for 90mins and features him in every PL game tells you the manager likes it. So is the senior players that will tell him not to listen to a manager that already loathes them(senior players)?

He’s been playing same shii since last season and keeps getting playing time And you think he won’t be encouraged to do more of it.

This thing is simple logic!

You see why I said u and Solo watch games with emotions.

Both of em should fu.ćk off!!!

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:03pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:


The fact that he caresses the ball in an effort to always be at the centre of the camera and the manager keeps him for 90mins and features him in every PL game tells you the manager likes it. So is the senior players that will tell him not to listen to a manager that already loathes them(senior players)?

He’s been playing same shii since last season and keeps getting playing time And you think he won’t be encouraged to do more of it.

This thing is simple logic!

You see why I said u and Solo watch games with emotions.

Both of em should fu.ćk off!!!
You are the one who watch games with emotions, you don't see anything positive from the lad, it is outright condemnation..

That is not fair assessment, that afrodoc guy pointed to defense and CMs, its the Guendozi part that interest you, I've reiterated my desire for big tough midfielders, they can shield most of our young and small frame players..

There are so many far more rubbish going on in the pitch the manager hasn't addressed, is Guen caressing the ball the biggest issue at Arsenal atm?
Is it his fault the manager can't manage him or others around him?

Those who see games live from Emirates are not loathing him, they see potentials, you with emotions see him to fnck off

What about Leno leading on errors leading to goals in the league?
What about the senior clowns at the back?
Your record signing missing chances after chances?
The fitness of certain players who pants heavily?
The boring predictable pattern of always wanting to walk the ball in the net?
Rewarding the most erratic midfielder with captain and playing him game after game until fans booed him out?

There are far more reasons why we are down or Emery should go, you know this but emotions won't gree you.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 12:24pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:


The fact that he caresses the ball in an effort to always be at the centre of the camera and the manager keeps him for 90mins and features him in every PL game tells you the manager likes it. So is the senior players that will tell him not to listen to a manager that already loathes them(senior players)?

He’s been playing same shii since last season and keeps getting playing time And you think he won’t be encouraged to do more of it.

This thing is simple logic!

You see why I said u and Solo watch games with emotions.

Both of em should fu.ćk off!!!
I like Guendouzi but he delays attack by holding on to the ball longer than necessary however that has a lot to do with his age. Ozil, Auba, David Luiz, Lacazette, Sokratis etc should be in a position to correct him.

At United, I remember when Ronaldo came and was fixated on entertaining the fans and drawing plaudits from fans, men like Keane, Giggs, Neville had to scold him. They demanded that release the ball earlier and it payed off. Arsenal need leaders and not what is on show...

But did you notice that the players wanted to lose the game desperately yesterday that at 1 vs 2 and with 7 mins added, Ozil was more comfortable passing backwards than going forward. Martinelli probably didn't get the script and Lacazette looked disappointed in himself after scoring. I have never seen fans of a club so oissed off after their club scored a goal except last season when Evertaons celebrated every goal Man City scored just so Liverpool don't win the league...Football is funny.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:33pm On Nov 24, 2019
patrickmuf:
I like Guendouzi but he delays attack by holding on to the ball longer than necessary however that has a lot to do with his age. Ozil, Auba, David Luiz, Lacazette, Sokratis etc should be in a position to correct him.

At United, I remember when Ronaldo came and was fixated on entertaining the fans and drawing plaudits from fans, men like Keane, Giggs, Neville had to scold him. They demanded that release the ball earlier and it payed off. Arsenal need leaders and not what is on show...

But did you notice that the players wanted to lose the game desperately yesterday that at 1 vs 2 and with 7 mins added, Ozil was more comfortable passing backwards than going forward. Martinelli probably didn't get the script and Lacazette looked disappointed in himself after scoring. I have never seen fans of a club so oissed off after their club scored a goal except last season when Evertaons celebrated every goal Man City scored just so Liverpool don't win the league...Football is funny.
Southampton were just useless, they had 5 or more chances to kill off the game. I know why people insult black players that mumu with tinted hair could have scored a hat trick the werey was just missing sitters
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 12:38pm On Nov 24, 2019
patrickmuf:
I like Guendouzi but he delays attack by holding on to the ball longer than necessary however that has a lot to do with his age. Ozil, Auba, David Luiz, Lacazette, Sokratis etc should be in a position to correct him.

At United, I remember when Ronaldo came and was fixated on entertaining the fans and drawing plaudits from fans, men like Keane, Giggs, Neville had to scold him. They demanded that release the ball earlier and it payed off. Arsenal need leaders and not what is on show...

But did you notice that the players wanted to lose the game desperately yesterday that at 1 vs 2 and with 7 mins added, Ozil was more comfortable passing backwards than going forward. Martinelli probably didn't get the script and Lacazette looked disappointed in himself after scoring. I have never seen fans of a club so oissed off after their club scored a goal except last season when Evertaons celebrated every goal Man City scored just so Liverpool don't win the league...Football is funny.
The difference here is that not until results started going against us a lot of peeps said he’s doing excellently well, the manager kept playing him and hardly subs him. Aside Leno Guen has played most minutes for us, that further reinforces him to keep doing what he does. You now think the senior players telling him to correct it won’t be seen as bad belle.

At a point this season Guen was even dishing out instructions to other players on the pitch.That’s what overhyping a below par performance does to the psyche of a kid.

There’s nothing exceptional in Guen’s play to warrant the hype, his passes hardly threaten the opposition, he can’t tackle, he lacks pace what exactly does he do that Emery is building the team around him.

For all I know Emery could have been bribed by Guen’s agent. Another anguu

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 12:41pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

You are the one who watch games with emotions, you don't see anything positive from the lad, it is outright condemnation..

That is not fair assessment, that afrodoc guy pointed to defense and CMs, its the Guendozi part that interest you, I've reiterated my desire for big tough midfielders, they can shield most of our young and small frame players..

There are so many far more rubbish going on in the pitch the manager hasn't addressed, is Guen caressing the ball the biggest issue at Arsenal atm?
Is it his fault the manager can't manage him or others around him?

Those who see games live from Emirates are not loathing him, they see potentials, you with emotions see him to fnck off

What about Leno leading on errors leading to goals in the league?
What about the senior clowns at the back?
Your record signing missing chances after chances?
The fitness of certain players who pants heavily?
The boring predictable pattern of always wanting to walk the ball in the net?
Rewarding the most erratic midfielder with captain and playing him game after game until fans booed him out?

There are far more reasons why we are down or Emery should go, you know this but emotions won't grew you.
My point is Guen is a major part of it too, the team/midfield played very well during the winning streak last season. We lost form once Emery decided to force him into the starting lineup. It’s a fact!

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 1:06pm On Nov 24, 2019
iamoyindamola:
Southampton were just useless, they had 5 or more chances to kill off the game. I know why people insult black players that mumu with tinted hair could have scored a hat trick the werey was just missing sitters
That guy is just useless, he should have scored at least 2 goals but no, he rather dyes his hair feeling funky when he can't do Jack with the ball.

At a point yesterday, I was hoping Arsenal lose to an embarrassing scoreline so that Emery can be booted out. I want all the top teams firing so that Manchster City and Liverpool won't just stroll to the top of the league.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 3:40pm On Nov 24, 2019
patrickmuf:
I like Guendouzi but he delays attack by holding on to the ball longer than necessary however that has a lot to do with his age. Ozil, Auba, David Luiz, Lacazette, Sokratis etc should be in a position to correct him.

At United, I remember when Ronaldo came and was fixated on entertaining the fans and drawing plaudits from fans, men like Keane, Giggs, Neville had to scold him. They demanded that release the ball earlier and it payed off. Arsenal need leaders and not what is on show...

But did you notice that the players wanted to lose the game desperately yesterday that at 1 vs 2 and with 7 mins added, Ozil was more comfortable passing backwards than going forward. Martinelli probably didn't get the script and Lacazette looked disappointed in himself after scoring. I have never seen fans of a club so oissed off after their club scored a goal except last season when Evertaons celebrated every goal Man City scored just so Liverpool don't win the league...Football is funny.
Now this is a good view, This man likes Guen, he didn't hype like him like he is pilrlo or Modric, he points out his negative side of the game,suggested how it can be corrected as against outright condemnation of asking him to get the fvk out of here cheesy

The united analogy is what I've been saying, but they twist it to mean " Ozil, Auba et al are the reasons for the young players mistakes
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 3:54pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

The difference here is that not until results started going against us a lot of peeps said he’s doing excellently well, the manager kept playing him and hardly subs him. Aside Leno Guen has played most minutes for us, that further reinforces him to keep doing what he does. You now think the senior players telling him to correct it won’t be seen as bad belle.

At a point this season Guen was even dishing out instructions to other players on the pitch.That’s what overhyping a below par performance does to the psyche of a kid.

There’s nothing exceptional in Guen’s play to warrant the hype, his passes hardly threaten the opposition, he can’t tackle, he lacks pace what exactly does he do that Emery is building the team around him.

For all I know Emery could have been bribed by Guen’s agent. Another anguu
Before the result started going bad, Auba,Guen and Martinelli were the only ones putting up the top class performance,they were voted players of the month and got to TOTW steadily, its clear, but you'll not admit it because you have preconceived mindset.

Is it not normal that fans commend and praise them?

The fans fury I read on every other platform has little to nothing to do with Guen, he was doing well and deserved his spot.

There's nothing like bad belle, they are supposed to be leaders, but they may lack the confidence because the youngsters are even outshining them, they may be to ashamed of their errors..

There's nothing like hype, it is commending him for his effort,asking him to get better on your weak areas and never relent.

Your last 2paragraphs, emotions as usual.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 3:57pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Now this is a good view, This man likes Guen, he didn't hype like him like he is pilrlo or Modric, he points out his negative side of the game,suggested how it can be corrected as against outright condemnation of asking him to get the fvk out of here cheesy

The united analogy is what I've been saying, but they twist it to mean " Ozil, Auba et al are the reasons for the young players mistakes
It’s a lie! He never pointed out shii! His playing style never changed as a matter of fact he was actually building the team around him. Which is pure celebration of mediocrity.

I can dig up several posts where ur ilks made it look like other peeps were dragging the team back except Guen. Everyone should get benched except Guen. Chicken has come home to roost u are changing tune saying what’s not.

We were playing better when he wasn’t starting, when performance dropped everyone has chopped bench except Guen but ur hypocrisy will let u blame someone that was on the bench.

I don’t hate Guen!
My point has always been Guen does not deserve to start regularly and enjoy the playing time he’s had even with our current squad. He’s not even our best youth player he has only benefited from the manager’s favouritism same way Giroud did during Wenger.

Pairing Ceb with Torreira with Ozil playing behind the CF flanked by Pepe and Saka/Auba/Matinelli till they sync can never be worse than what we currently have.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 3:59pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Before the result started going bad, Auba,Guen and Martinelli were the only ones putting up the top class performance,they were voted players of the month and got to TOTW steadily, its clear, but you'll not admit it because you have preconceived mindset.

Is it not normal that fans commend and praise them?

The fans fury I read on every other platform has little to nothing to do with Guen, he was doing well and deserved his spot.

There's nothing like bad belle, they are supposed to be leaders, but they may lack the confidence because the youngsters are even outshining them, they may be to ashamed of their errors..

There's nothing like hype, it is commending him for his effort,asking him to get better on your weak areas and never relent.

Your last 2paragraphs, emotions as usual.
By results started going down I’m talking as far back as 2nd half of last season, I was never carried away by the fluke wins of early this season and u know that.

We were never good this season at least in the league
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:04pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Before the result started going bad, Auba,Guen and Martinelli were the only ones putting up the top class performance,they were voted players of the month and got to TOTW steadily, its clear, but you'll not admit it because you have preconceived mindset.

Is it not normal that fans commend and praise them?

The fans fury I read on every other platform has little to nothing to do with Guen, he was doing well and deserved his spot.

There's nothing like bad belle, they are supposed to be leaders, but they may lack the confidence because the youngsters are even outshining them, they may be to ashamed of their errors..

There's nothing like hype, it is commending him for his effort,asking him to get better on your weak areas and never relent.

Your last 2paragraphs, emotions as usual.
Can you itemise at least 4 Intrinsic qualities of a DM and tell me the ones Guen has in good measure?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:06pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

My point is Guen is a major part of it too, the team/midfield played very well during the winning streak last season. We lost form once Emery decided to force him into the starting lineup. It’s a fact!
"Played very well" can be relative, you were among the people saying the unbeaten was only papering the cracks..

The unbeaten run had us play some low class games in Europa and league cup, we didn't win any big side except Tottenham..
Guen featured in those games to,It was not a Xhaka or Guen matter..

For me, it was down to some players form, Bellerin,Monreal and Holding were inform, Welbeck and Ramsey were motivated and wanted to impress the manager..

And an Iwobi who was always changing the game from the bench with his power,pace,directness,urgency and agility..

We conceded 5 at Anfield, Were 3-0 down at wolves,3-0 at Leicester and 3-0 in Baku with Xhaka/Torreira.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:10pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

"Played very well" can be relative, you were among the people saying the unbeaten was only papering the cracks..

The unbeaten run had us play some low class games in Europa and league cup, we didn't win any big side except Tottenham..
Guen featured in those games to,It was not a Xhaka or Guen matter..

For me, it was down to some players form, Bellerin,Monreal and Holding were inform, Welbeck and Ramsey were motivated and wanted to impress the manager..

And an Iwobi who was always changing the game from the bench with his power,pace,directness,urgency and agility..

We conceded 5 at Anfield, Were 3-0 down at wolves,3-0 at Leicester and 3-0 in Baku with Xhaka/Torreira.
First paragraph, I never said a thing like that

Meanwhile how are we faring with same low class team with Guen in the heart of it?

during the winning streak Guen came in from bench and his energy level was useful I had no problems with that. he never started!! That’s a fact.

Last paragraph; I thought you would say that. These defeats came up 2nd half of last season when runs were already bad after trying to force Guen into the starting line up and alienating Torreira and Ozil etc while at it, those guys didn’t enjoy good playing time prior to Liverpool away.

We played Liverpool in the first leg and it was a draw 1-1
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:23pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:


The fact that he caresses the ball in an effort to always be at the centre of the camera and the manager keeps him for 90mins and features him in every PL game tells you the manager likes it. So is the senior players that will tell him not to listen to a manager that already loathes them(senior players)?

He’s been playing same shii since last season and keeps getting playing time And you think he won’t be encouraged to do more of it.

This thing is simple logic!

You see why I said u and Solo watch games with emotions.

Both of em should fu.ćk off!!!
The funny thing is that, caressing the ball is part of his job as a centre midfielder. I am waiting for any one who thinks he has sense to prove to me that a normal CM should not caress the ball and recycle possession. Hevis not an AM, but a CM for fuks sake. Let's be less stupid and think.

The lad was poor in the first half when we played 3-5-2 but picked up when we switched to a 4-5-1 formation after half time which earned him our second best player on the night after Lacazette. The absence of leaders in the team may have affected his game reasoning and perhaps hindered his progress, but the lad is putting better performances than most of the clowns we have currently.

Like I said before, he is like a one legged man in the land of the lame. In a shiity team like Arsenal, Guendouzi manages to give a decent performance. It may not be enough for a top team like ours or any top team at all, but he is among the best we have currently.

If you doubt, check player ratings on any site you wish, or else you want to tell us that you know more than every analyst that exist today.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:36pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

It’s a lie! He never pointed out shii! His playing style never changed as a matter of fact he was actually building the team around him. Which is pure celebration of mediocrity.

I can dig up several posts where ur ilks made it look like other peeps were dragging the team back except Guen. Everyone should get benched except Guen. Chicken has come home to roost u are changing tune saying what’s not.

We were playing better when he wasn’t starting, when performance dropped everyone has chopped bench except Guen but ur hypocrisy will let u blame someone that was on the bench.

I don’t hate Guen!
My point has always been Guen does not deserve to start regularly and enjoy the playing time he’s had even with our current squad. He’s not even our best youth player he has only benefited from the manager’s favouritism same way Giroud did during Wenger.




Pairing Ceb with Torreira with Ozil playing behind the CF flanked by Pepe and Saka/Auba/Matinelli till they sync can never be worse than what we currently have.
Nobody has problem with Guendozi chopping bench or learning stuffs..

Your talks about him doesn't look like the bolded, what we read from you is " He adds nothing to this team,get the fvk out and bring in anyone else ".

He is always your center of focus, other glaring issues you ignore, but guen here and there, and that's the reason why some of us chose to support, encourage and commend his good works..

Torreira is the only one who deserves a spot ahead of him, hGuen is as vital or have done better than the Xhaka,Willock and Elneny is that position.

Also, Ceballos is more of an attacking midfielder than CM/DM, Guen defends better and Ceba attacks better
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:50pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

First paragraph, I never said a thing like that

Meanwhile how are we faring with same low class team with Guen in the heart of it?

during the winning streak Guen came in from bench and his energy level was useful I had no problems with that. he never started!! That’s a fact.

Last paragraph; I thought you would say that. These defeats came up 2nd half of last season when runs were already bad after trying to force Guen into the starting line up and alienating Torreira and Ozil etc while at it, those guys didn’t enjoy good playing time prior to Liverpool away.

We played Liverpool in the first leg and it was a draw 1-1
I thought I read "Emery had no style, those saying he made us go on 22games unbeaten are not seeing the bigger picture, the unbeaten only papered over the cracks" maybe not you, but looks like you.

How you are trying to make Guen the heart of the team wonders me o, there was a Xhaka who played far more, he was made the captainand was telling us they were scared of the ball at watford,(Guen is even the most confident that demands the ball and holds it like a boss cheesy and draw fouls in tight corners) orthers are scared or there was Auba/Laca, how is he the heart of the team, lot of playing time doesn't mean so.

So the moment Guen came into the team, everything turned upside.. Xhaka, Torreira and Ozil lost rhythm? Ahhhh!
I find this hard to believe
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:52pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

Can you itemise at least 4 Intrinsic qualities of a DM and tell me the ones Guen has in good measure?
His profile from his prev club says CM/DM..
But from his playing style, he more of a CM than DM and his stats are there, but you'll say because he plays the most.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:04pm On Nov 24, 2019
Spy360:

The funny thing is that, caressing the ball is part of his job as a centre midfielder. I am waiting for any one who thinks he has sense to prove to me that a normal CM should not caress the ball and recycle possession. Hevis not an AM, but a CM for fuks sake. Let's be less stupid and think.

The lad was poor in the first half when we played 3-5-2 but picked up when we switched to a 4-5-1 formation after half time which earned him our second best player on the night after Lacazette. The absence of leaders in the team may have affected his game reasoning and perhaps hindered his progress, but the lad is putting better performances than most of the clowns we have currently.

Like I said before, he is like a one legged man in the land of the lame. In a shiity team like Arsenal, Guendouzi manages to give a decent performance. It may not be enough for a top team like ours or any top team at all, but he is among the best we have currently.

If you doubt, check player ratings on any site you wish, or else you want to tell us that you know more than every analyst that exist today.

They see the bolded as "forming activity" since he isn't scoring and assisting..

A team with a good coach and matured quality experienced players would have fashioned his game to something very meaningful.

When we have Ndidi,Partey and Doucoure, you think Guen will have much playing time..
Fans who vote him for POTM can't be all blind, those voting him for Golden boy aren't all daft, even if it be Arsenal fans voting him, he wouldn't still gather votes topping and battling the Sancho,Jao Felix and De light of this world..

In fact I need to see what those lads will look like in England.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:33pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

By results started going down I’m talking as far back as 2nd half of last season, I was never carried away by the fluke wins of early this season and u know that.

We were never good this season at least in the league
And we were better in Europa because..........









Guen wasn't starting is that a co incident
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:43pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:


They see the bolded as "forming activity" since he isn't scoring and assisting..

A team with a good coach and matured quality experienced players would have fashioned his game to something very meaningful.

When we have Ndidi,Partey and Doucoure, you think Guen will have much playing time..
Fans who vote him for POTM can't be all blind, those voting him for Golden boy aren't all daft, even if it be Arsenal fans voting him, he wouldn't still gather votes topping and battling the Sancho,Jao Felix and De light of this world..

In fact I need to see what those lads will look like in England.
It’s the work of players that you claimed Guen is better than that will coach him on how to tackle, intercept passes, create threatening chances?

Guen has been the common denominator in that midfield nothing has improved it’s only logical for the manager to drop him and try another partnership but his bias wouldn’t let him.

Can you point just a game where Guen started and we dominated and won. I can name several where Torreira, Xhaka did , this is another fact!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:46pm On Nov 24, 2019
Spy360:

The funny thing is that, caressing the ball is part of his job as a centre midfielder. I am waiting for any one who thinks he has sense to prove to me that a normal CM should not caress the ball and recycle possession. Hevis not an AM, but a CM for fuks sake. Let's be less stupid and think.

The lad was poor in the first half when we played 3-5-2 but picked up when we switched to a 4-5-1 formation after half time which earned him our second best player on the night after Lacazette. The absence of leaders in the team may have affected his game reasoning and perhaps hindered his progress, but the lad is putting better performances than most of the clowns we have currently.

Like I said before, he is like a one legged man in the land of the lame. In a shiity team like Arsenal, Guendouzi manages to give a decent performance. It may not be enough for a top team like ours or any top team at all, but he is among the best we have currently.

If you doubt, check player ratings on any site you wish, or else you want to tell us that you know more than every analyst that exist today.
How do you keep caressing when you are meant to release a one time pass? How’s that different from showboating.

Guen is fcking overhyped same as Emery, it has got nothing to do with this draw!
you guys are out of excuses.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:55pm On Nov 24, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Nobody has problem with Guendozi chopping bench or learning stuffs..

Your talks about him doesn't look like the bolded, what we read from you is " He adds nothing to this team,get the fvk out and bring in anyone else ".

He is always your center of focus, other glaring issues you ignore, but guen here and there, and that's the reason why some of us chose to support, encourage and commend his good works..

Torreira is the only one who deserves a spot ahead of him, hGuen is as vital or have done better than the Xhaka,Willock and Elneny is that position.

Also, Ceballos is more of an attacking midfielder than CM/DM, Guen defends better and Ceba attacks better
The bolded were my talks until your ilks claimed he’s the best midfielder at Arsenal, and he plays like Vierra which I never agreed with. Then you proceeded in calling me names. One of my Acct managers here even said I don’t have right to criticise a player making more money than I do. It’s only natural for me to beam more light on him. It’s nothing personal with Guen.

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