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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:59pm On Nov 24, 2019
The hypocrisy is your ilks have criticised every player while claiming Guen is the next best thing after rice and beans. Y’all even criticised AMN that was played out of position, Mustafi that the midfield pairing of Guen and Xhaka got exposed but for some reasons Guen should never be criticised.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:19pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

It’s the work of players that you claimed Guen is better than that will coach him on how to tackle, intercept passes, create threatening chances?

Guen has been the common denominator in that midfield nothing has improved it’s only logical for the manager to drop him and try another partnership but his bias wouldn’t let him.

Can you point just a game where Guen started and we dominated and won. I can name several where Torreira, Xhaka did , this is another fact!
The players he met in the CM/DM positions are all supposed to be better,because he is young and new the club and league, but he looked better than most except Torreira..

The tackles, interceptions and passes you talked about are there already, but you choose not to see, though he isn't very good at that, but he isn't woeful like you're painting him..

Your 2nd paragraph is fairly put, but the manager has the fault instead of venting on the lad.

Your last paragraph is funny, all I know is we win/draw/lose with or without him, there are bigger issues than him, Xhaka beside Lucas in that same midfield was toping the chat with errors leading to goals.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:25pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

The bolded were my talks until your ilks claimed he’s the best midfielder at Arsenal, and he plays like Vierra which I never agreed with. Then you proceeded in calling me names. One of my Acct managers here even said I don’t have right to criticise a player making more money than I do. It’s only natural for me to beam more light on him. It’s nothing personal with Guen.
That's thier opinion, you can counter it like many have done and it will be respected,but when you go on and on him and equating him to a flop or uselessness, that's how emotions will comes in from you and them
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 7:27pm On Nov 24, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
The hypocrisy is your ilks have criticised every player while claiming Guen is the next best thing after rice and beans. Y’all even criticised AMN that was played out of position, Mustafi that the midfield pairing of Guen and Xhaka got exposed but for some reasons Guen should never be criticised.
grin tongue

I know some may go over the board in praising him,but I'm sure it is to pepper you and 1 or 2 orthers who they perceived hating on him.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:14am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:

That's thier opinion, you can counter it like many have done and it will be respected,but when you go on and on him and equating him to a flop or uselessness, that's how emotions will comes in from you and them
I can criticise a player how I want without recourse or respect from any moniker here.

If not for Emery’s uselessness, is Guen we should be worshipping in midfield? A so called elite club.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 1:17am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:
grin tongue

I know some may go over the board in praising him,but I'm sure it is to pepper you and 1 or 2 orthers who they perceived hating on him.
Pepper me? Dude really? I look like I give a fck to u? Who’s having the last laugh?

We are going no where with Emery and Guen (at least for now) at the centre of our footy, go and write it down.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:00am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

Pepper me? Dude really? I look like I give a fck to u? Who’s having the last laugh?

We are going no where with Emery and Guen (at least for now) at the centre of our footy, go and write it down.
One thing is common among Arsenal fans all over right now, and that's Emery not getting things right and has to go. Not many will argue that.
But I assure over 75% of the fans will laugh at you if you attribute the failure to Guen, that's just it.
Fans unanimously agree on the players they think are part of it. So you are on your own.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:11am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
I can criticise a player how I want without recourse or respect from any moniker here.

If not for Emery’s uselessness, is Guen we should be worshipping in midfield? A so called elite club.
I thought you felt disrespected when they insulted you for being a nobody as a pundit in football world and a young boy being richer and more famous than you.

You can continue to say the same thing over and over, All I know is the fans who see games live already know where the problem lies.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:57am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:

One thing is common among Arsenal fans all over right now, and that's Emery not getting things right and has to go. Not many will argue that.
But I assure over 75% of the fans will laugh at you if you attribute the failure to Guen, that's just it.
Fans unanimously agree on the players they think are part of it. So you are on your own.
I don't know where you get your stats from but majority of where I go or read from complained about boy and it's no coincidence that since he has been forced into the line up everything went astray
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:24am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:

One thing is common among Arsenal fans all over right now, and that's Emery not getting things right and has to go. Not many will argue that.
But I assure over 75% of the fans will laugh at you if you attribute the failure to Guen, that's just it.
Fans unanimously agree on the players they think are part of it. So you are on your own.
Chairman census board, keep deceiving yourself.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:25am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:

I thought you felt disrespected when they insulted you for being a nobody as a pundit in football world and a young boy being richer and more famous than you.

You can continue to say the same thing over and over, All I know is the fans who see games live already know where the problem lies.

Keep telling yourself whatever makes u sleep at night.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:29am On Nov 25, 2019
Khalifa my point is Guen does nothing special in that team as you and ur ilks want us to believe while blaming others for his shortcomings.

Una no know ball.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:54am On Nov 25, 2019
iamoyindamola:
I don't know where you get your stats from but majority of where I go or read from complained about boy and it's no coincidence that since he has been forced into the line up everything went astray
let himself and Solo keep deceiving themselves naso them hype Emery as being very tactical and reducing global warming while preserving the Environment by Recycling.
With 4 wins in 13 Solo don go solo. Na stubborn housefly dey follow dead body enter grave.
I said all these then them say na wingbacks be the issue.

Sod give it time posterity will judge.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:56am On Nov 25, 2019
This is Roy on Guen

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:58am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
let himself and Solo keep deceiving themselves naso them hype Emery as being very tactical and reducing global warming while preserving the Environment by Recycling.
With 4 wins in 13 Solo don go solo. Na stubborn housefly dey follow dead body enter grave.
I said all these then them say na wingbacks be the issue.

Sod give it time posterity will judge.
I'm tired abeg, goal he can't score,he can't mark or track his man, he can't assist just falling around again.
Yesterday someone said he defend better than ceballos grin.
Willock,AMN,torreira have all gone to score while our golden boy haven't gotten any
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:00am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

Chairman census board, keep deceiving yourself.

That fan pointed out so many things but you choose to focus on the part that suits you..

Here are some stuffs I can deduce:

He said the kid has some talent, Do I agree? Yes.
He is being asked to do much at 20, which is not fair to him, Do I agree? Yes

He is not going to be a long term success here? NO

Playing as CM is the hardest thing to do, the easier tasks like defending, creating chances and scoring are no issues at Arsenal?

Guendozi is not generational talent? Yes, Fabreags was? Yes, Wilshere was? No


Arsenal can't go to through a season with Guendozi,Ceballos,Torrera in midfield, it will implode? YES.
We need men like Docoure,Ndidi,Alex Song,Partey and Viera.

None of them can run nor are well drilled? Do you agree?

Well, its his opinion and perceptions are not fact.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:08am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:


Keep telling yourself whatever makes u sleep at night.
I hope if bring in posts of fans praising and focusing on his positives, you'll also agree?

For every 1 or 2 posts of this kind, there are 8/9 saying other wise on the boy..

What if I bring Fans thorough analysis on Ozil,Xhaka,Kolasinc,Mustafi,Lacazette,
Pepe,Luiz
,Sokratis,Nelson,Niles,Bellerin..

You'll surely say Guen is the reason for any negatives we see around them.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:20am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
This is Roy on Guen

This is Roy on Guen,Xhaka and Torreira, but its only Guen you see cheesy Abosi of the highest order..

It's a known fact none of the 3 are great midfielders, but it is logical we don't conclude on Guen and Torreira yet, they are young, new to the league and in their learning stage, Xhaka is supposed to be the boss, he is a professional,4 years in England with far more top games under his belt.

But you never wrote on Xhaka, the moment the only World class midfielder in Carzola left, everything began to implode, We've lost champions league football before Guen, we were even losing with cricket scores before Guen.
Xhaka single handedly cost us UCL football last season with his foul against Brighton.
He started the final in baku and controlled which midfield?
He cost you £35 and was made the captain, he played the most number of games.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:25am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:

I hope if bring in posts of fans praising and focusing on his positives, you'll also agree?

For every 1 or 2 posts of this kind, there are 8/9 saying other wise on the boy..

What if I bring Fans thorough analysis on Ozil,Xhaka,Kolasinc,Mustafi,Lacazette,Pepe,Luiz,Sokratis,Nelson,Niles,Bellerin..

You'll surely say Guen is the reason for any negatives we see around them.
same way u said they are the reasons for the negatives around Guen, let’s keep same energy.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:33am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
Khalifa my point is Guen does nothing special in that team as you and ur ilks want us to believe while blaming others for his shortcomings.

Una no know ball.
cheesy
Berbartov on Guendozi

“He’s 19 but he’s playing like he’s been there forever.

“Sometimes I’m watching him like I want to be against him because he p****s me off with the confidence he has.

“He’s so confident on the ball and he’s everywhere on the pitch. I’ve watched him. He’s in the box, running without a problem.

“You can be 19 and have the mentality and experience of a 24-year-old. Age doesn’t matter. He’s unbelievable.”

Martin Koewen of Guendozi


“When I was watching Sunday’s game, I was thinking to myself how young Matteo Guendouzi was to be given such a key role in the heart of their midfield against a team as good as City are,” he told the BBC.

“He is only 19 and was making his debut after his summer move from Lorient, who play in the second tier in France.

Yes, Guendozi made some mistakes, but I actually thought he was quite gallant in his performance. He did not hide after making those errors and was actually fearless in the way he kept on showing to receive the ball.

“It seemed to me that some of the people around him, who are more senior players, did not quite show the same appetite to get on the ball when things were not going well.

“Is Guendozi the answer to Arsenal’s prayers in that position? Probably not, but I think he was put in there for his character, and he certainly showed a lot of it.

Alan shearer..

This guy Guendouzi was absolutely magnificent in the second half, they needed a warrior and he stood up.’

Guendouzi’s influence on the Arsenal side is shown by the stats as he has completed the highest number of passes in the squad, the joint-top number of interceptions and the second-highest number of tackles.

Arsene Wenger on Guen..
Wenger told Arsenal’s website: ‘He looks to be a good potential.

‘I think there are many other players who have fantastic potential, who played already with me, like Joe Willock and you have Reiss Nelson.

‘You have many players who come out and have a big potential and Guendouzi is one of them.

I'll rather read from world football personnel than some cassava farmers from Kenya.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:38am On Nov 25, 2019
Fkhalifa:

I hope if bring in posts of fans praising and focusing on his positives, you'll also agree?

For every 1 or 2 posts of this kind, there are 8/9 saying other wise on the boy..

What if I bring Fans thorough analysis on Ozil,Xhaka,Kolasinc,Mustafi,Lacazette,Pepe,Luiz,Sokratis,Nelson,Niles,Bellerin..

You'll surely say Guen is the reason for any negatives we see around them.
He’s got potential? Yes
But the potential ain’t enough to make him a first team regular starter even in this current squad! That was my stance.

But ur ilks said he’s the best we’ve got that’s why the focus is on Guen cos I wasn’t convinced.
Guen is overhyped period
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:47am On Nov 25, 2019
On the video, the midfielder said: "Actually, I was taking a nap and someone knocked on my door. I didn’t answer because I was sleeping I swear.

"Then my phone rang and it was the coach on the phone. He said, “It’s me, I knocked” and so on. Obviously I went and opened the door straight away! ‘And then he said, “Matteo, come here, we need to talk.” He said, “I like you very much but you have to leave.

"And I said, “What do you mean I have to leave? What do you mean?” He said, “Actually, you’re going with the senior France national team. ‘In my mind I was like, at first I couldn’t believe it. Ten minutes before I was asleep, I thought it was still a dream!

"The coach and I, we had a good talk, he explained it well. That’s it, he told me I was in the national team of France. It’s a dream. I’m glad I just showered for the sake of my awareness."


This is the coach of the world champions, he likes him and sees some talent and future with him.
For sure he wouldn't bench anyone in the France national team because of the qualities in the squad, most especially that midfield, they are arguably the team with best midfielders atm in the world.

You better focus on management and leadership issues you have at the Emirates.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:58am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

He’s got potential? Yes
But the potential ain’t enough to make him a first team regular starter even in this current squad! That was my stance.

But ur ilks said he’s the best we’ve got that’s why the focus is on Guen cos I wasn’t convinced.
Guen is overhyped period

Xhaka has been a team regular, na error upon sadness, fans booed him out, Torreira should but fitness and physical issues and requires a big midfield destroyer around him.

Is it Willock? Or we call Elneny back? Ceballos is more of attacking, he and ozil together will be run ragged except you put an Ndidi behind them with very rugged quality defenders.

The Guen fans here started by telling you he isn't Modric nor Pirlo, that he's got potentials and should be allowed to grow in peace, you disagreed and rubbished him, then we kuku decide praise and love him.

We said he is 60%, you said no he is 5%, we then decide to kuku be use emotions like you and call him 80%. cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:24am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

How do you keep caressing when you are meant to release a one time pass? How’s that different from showboating.

Guen is fcking overhyped same as Emery, it has got nothing to do with this draw!
you guys are out of excuses.
Go and learn the tenets of a CM. Their basic duty is not the attack or defend or give defense splitting passes. They could do those when the need arises, but their basic duty is to keep possession which is by caressing and recycling the ball .

Stop linking Guen with Emery trying to change the focus of the argument. We all know Emery is shiiit, but leave Guen out of his matter.

I gave you an assignment, go and check what the player ratings say of different sites then come back and prove to us that Guen is the worst player at Arsenal.

Stop this witch hunt.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:27am On Nov 25, 2019
iamoyindamola:
I don't know where you get your stats from but majority of where I go or read from complained about boy and it's no coincidence that since he has been forced into the line up everything went astray
Give us your stats and the links. I challenge you.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:31am On Nov 25, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
This is Roy on Guen
Don't be silly. grin
You take posts condemning the entire Arsenal squad as one against Guen. Chai!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:39am On Nov 25, 2019
Kokabeprodigy and iamiyadamola

Tell us your preferred midfield three in this current Arsenal set up and explain why it should be so. With stats off course.

Also tell us your preferred role for Guendouzi.

Let's bury this issue.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:14am On Nov 25, 2019
Spy360:

Give us your stats and the links. I challenge you.
This guy go just they jump into argument he knows nothing about, during the unbeaten streak last season in EPL was guendouzi a starter or not?
What stats are you looking for, last season I compared him with other midfielders and they beat the boy flawless
See your home boy leading on appreance and rating because he played more than them. No wonder xhaka is angry,It's a phucking disgrace mehn grin

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BikeMan: 10:33am On Nov 25, 2019
Spy360:
Kokabeprodigy and iamiyadamola

Tell us your preferred midfield three in this current Arsenal set up and explain why it should be so. With stats off course.

Also tell us your preferred role for Guendouzi.

Let's bury this issue.
Sodick and explanation? You want to hurt his brain o grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 10:39am On Nov 25, 2019
BikeMan:
Sodick and explanation? You want to hurt his brain o grin grin grin
See sir werey trying so hard to get out of vegetable state
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BikeMan: 10:41am On Nov 25, 2019
iamoyindamola:
See sir werey trying so hard to get out of vegetable state
Oya explain with stats ofcourse cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:09am On Nov 25, 2019
Spy360:
Kokabeprodigy and iamiyadamola

Tell us your preferred midfield three in this current Arsenal set up and explain why it should be so. With stats off course.

Also tell us your preferred role for Guendouzi.

Let's bury this issue.
i’ll get Back to you.

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