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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 8:40pm On Nov 25, 2019
Leyqute:


No na. I’m talking about his passes. His passes can lull you to sleep in a clubhouse.

I’ve noticed it for quite some time, just posted it today out of frustration.

Remember those times we were playing Soton and Crystal Palace- when the play was slow and boring? Magguya Dey part of the cause.

You have to remember though. The movement from out forwards cannot be compared to the Liverpool forwards. So for Maguire or any defenders to ping good passes to the forwards you would need them making good runs in the first place. Which they very very rarely do. Vardy is also one of the best at making those runs so there's always something for the defenders to aim for.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 8:51pm On Nov 25, 2019
tenmariner:
Maguire is not a bad deal. Every player has one weakness or the other but the quality of the entire squad minimizes the rate at which your weakness will be noticed.. Nobody noticed how harry Maguire scores last min goals for Leicester but very difficult in united..the answer is simple, TEAM QUALITY!!!
fans are much in a hurry to see some things immediately, it doesn't work that way.
the obvious plan is to build from the back and I believe it is strong enough. it may not be very evident right now because football is a collective function. the midfield is still in shambles, so is the center of attack. the chaos in these central areas will make it almost impossible for the defense to have breathing space most of the games.

people calling for sack just want the club to continue moving in circles.
OGS has been appointed, there's need to let him hold the fort and we see if he's making progress. everybody knows he's a rookie there's little use reciting it every matchday like it's the national pledge, everybody knows we are going to sail in murky waters; let's see where we dock. it's not cast in stone that Ole must be finisher but he's bringing together a good group of young players with very positive potential.

for the upcoming winter and summer transfer windows, I expect him to bring in two central midfielders (Matic will leave and Mata seem destined for a management role) and a center forward at least; a center forward that occupies center backs with good hold up play, adept playing with his back to goal and strong in the air. Martial, and I'm a big fan of the man, is just not a serious human being: or maybe he is but he'd never be that kind of CF.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:07pm On Nov 25, 2019
tenmariner:
Maguire is not a bad deal. Every player has one weakness or the other but the quality of the entire squad minimizes the rate at which your weakness will be noticed.. Nobody noticed how harry Maguire scores last min goals for Leicester but very difficult in united..the answer is simple, TEAM QUALITY!!!
Some times, it's like we just want to lament and create imaginary scapegoats on this thread. It's amusing sha

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:16pm On Nov 25, 2019
tenmariner:
Maguire is not a bad deal. Every player has one weakness or the other but the quality of the entire squad minimizes the rate at which your weakness will be noticed.. Nobody noticed how harry Maguire scores last min goals for Leicester but very difficult in united..the answer is simple, TEAM QUALITY!!!
Wow!!! Leicester City has a better team than us? Player for player or it's the good work of Rodgers at play?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:27pm On Nov 25, 2019
MRTA7:


You have to remember though. The movement from out forwards cannot be compared to the Liverpool forwards. So for Maguire or any defenders to ping good passes to the forwards you would need them making good runs in the first place. Which they very very rarely do. Vardy is also one of the best at making those runs so there's always something for the defenders to aim for.

Nope. I’m not talking about those long-distance passes.

I’m all about Maguire’s passes to a close teammate, like the LB or RB. They are really slow. By the time the pass reach B. Williams, Shaw or Young, opponent don mark dem.

Those ones will have no choice but to pass back to Maguire and baba will roll another slow pass to Fred or McTom.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tenmariner: 9:41pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
Wow!!! Leicester City has a better team than us? Player for player or it's the good work of Rodgers at play?

Did u noticed he was much better in Leicester than in man united. Individual player we are better, but as a team, NO!!!.. And as a matter of fact, the quality of a team is deeply rooted in collectively understanding their playing climate and adjusting aggressively to it. EPL requires LOTS of strength, speed and techniques. If u as a player cannot offer it, u may not function efficiently how much more a whole team lacks those requirements.. Shefield united capitalized on our lack of strenght..U could notice the physicality in their play..if u attack your opponent for 75mims, your defenders will be on holiday. Maguire will show what we expect of him immediately the team quality is enhanced!!!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:42pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
Wow!!! Leicester City has a better team than us? Player for player or it's the good work of Rodgers at play?

Their midfield is better than ours by a long way. Pogba is the only one who gets near their midfield. Their attack is definitely better. Vardy is a seasoned goalscorer better than anything we have while Martial/Rashford/James is probably slightly better than Ayoze,/Maddison/DemaraiGray . Maybe we have a slight edge but Vardy tips it in their favour. Defense is again neck and neck as is keeper. There isn't a massive gap between DDG and Kasper. Its more telling that we would rather sign their players like, Chilwell,Ndidi,Teleimans,Madddison, Vardy. All go straight into our first 11.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:56pm On Nov 25, 2019
MRTA7:


Their midfield is better than ours by a long way. Pogba is the only one who gets near their midfield. Their attack is definitely better. Vardy is a seasoned goalscorer better than anything we have while Martial/Rashford/James is probably slightly better than Ayoze,/Maddison/DemaraiGray . Maybe we have a slight edge but Vardy tips it in their favour. Defense is again neck and neck as is keeper. There isn't a massive gap between DDG and Kasper. Its more telling that we would rather sign their players like, Chilwell,Ndidi,Teleimans,Madddison, Vardy. All go straight into our first 11.
Let's see your combined 11 please.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:57pm On Nov 25, 2019
If you think Leicester is better than we are and not because they have a better coach, please post your combined 11...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:03pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
Let's see your combined 11 please.

Make I try

DDG

Ricardo Soyncchu Maguire Chiwell

Ndidi Pogba

Madison

Ayoeze Vardy James



James over Rashford cos James is more of a team player than Rashford who is very selfish with the ball.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 10:07pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


Make I try

DDG

Ricardo Soyncchu Maguire Chiwell

Ndidi Pogba

Madison

Ayoeze Vardy James



James over Rashford cos James is more of a team player than Rashford who is very selfish with the ball.

Lol.. So ur combined 11 of Leicester and Man U and only three United players make it.. grin grin

Tell me u are just joking
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:09pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


Make I try

DDG

Ricardo Soyncchu Maguire Chiwell

Ndidi Pogba

Madison

Ayoeze Vardy James
Interestingly, Ricardo over Wan-Bissaka, why if I may ask?

Ayoze over Martial/Rashford? I don't agree.

Soyuncu over Lindelof? Why not Evans over Maguire?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:10pm On Nov 25, 2019
This combined 11 go expose so many things.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:12pm On Nov 25, 2019
ChristineC:
fans are much in a hurry to see some things immediately, it doesn't work that way.
the obvious plan is to build from the back and I believe it is strong enough. it may not be very evident right now because football is a collective function. the midfield is still in shambles, so is the center of attack. the chaos in these central areas will make it almost impossible for the defense to have breathing space most of the games.

people calling for sack just want the club to continue moving in circles.
OGS has been appointed, there's need to let him hold the fort and we see if he's making progress. everybody knows he's a rookie there's little use reciting it every matchday like it's the national pledge, everybody knows we are going to sail in murky waters; let's see where we dock. it's not cast in stone that Ole must be finisher but he's bringing together a good group of young players with very positive potential.

for the upcoming winter and summer transfer windows, I expect him to bring in two central midfielders (Matic will leave and Mata seem destined for a management role) and a center forward at least; a center forward that occupies center backs with good hold up play, adept playing with his back to goal and strong in the air. Martial, and I'm a big fan of the man, is just not a serious human being: or maybe he is but he'd never be that kind of CF.
What happens if he surprises you by saying the current squad is ok and talented midfielders like Fernandes do not fit the bill? grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:12pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
Interestingly, Ricardo over Wan-Bissaka, why if I may ask?

Ayoze over Martial/Rashford? I don't agree.

Soyuncu over Lindelof? Why not Evans over Maguire?

Ricardo is good defensively and attack wise. Soyuncu over Lindelof on current form same as Ayoeze against Martial, Rashford should have made the team but I preferred James due to his eyes to spot quick counter and Vardy with Ayoeze thrives on those quick pass
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 10:13pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
Wow!!! Leicester City has a better team than us? Player for player or it's the good work of Rodgers at play?
The latter
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:13pm On Nov 25, 2019
thorrvik55:


Lol.. So ur combined 11 of Leicester and Man U and only three United players make it.. grin grin

Tell me u are just joking

Drop yours let's see
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:23pm On Nov 25, 2019
KingTom:

What happens if he surprises you by saying the current squad is ok and talented midfielders like Fernandes do not fit the bill? grin

This guy you’re a clown grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:24pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


Drop yours let's see

That is a Chelsea bot. Pay it no attention.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 10:31pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


Drop yours let's see

The reason why u rate those players highly is because of the work Rodgers has put in. The Soyuncu u a rating so high was bought for less than £10M and he was signed from Turkish league. I guess the reason u mentioned Soyuncu ahead of Evans is because Evans is a Manure reject cos Soyuncu plays LCB(where Maguire plays) and Evans plays RCB(where Lindelof plays).

Pereirra vs £50M Want Bissaka?? Lol

Chillwell?? He is not even rated as high as Luke Shaw was rated b4 he joined Manure..

Same Ayoze Perez dat was relegated with Newcastle and was not even one of the main men that brought dem back. I remember Dwight Gayle banging goals for Newcastle to get dem back to the premier league..

Vardy? Maybe, but age is not on his side. He has a max of 1 to 2 good seasons left in him..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:34pm On Nov 25, 2019
thorrvik55:


The reason why u rate those players highly is because of the work Rodgers has put in. The Soyuncu u a rating so high was bought for less than £10M and he was signed from Turkish league. I guess the reason u mentioned Soyuncu ahead of Evans is because Evans is a Manure reject cos Soyuncu plays LCB(where Maguire plays) and Evans plays RCB(where Lindelof plays).

Pereirra vs £50M Want Bissaka?? Lol

Chillwell?? He is not even rated as high as Luke Shaw was rated b4 he joined Manure..

Same Ayoze Perez dat was relegated with Newcastle and was not even one of the main men that brought dem back. I remember Dwight Gayle banging goals for Newcastle to get dem back to the premier league..

Vardy? Maybe, but age is not on his side. He has a max of 1 to 2 good seasons left in him..

Are we discussing current form or what the player is before?
Price doesn't equate a good player.

Ayoeze Perez was Newcastle main man last season.
Chiwell is among top 3 LB in the league currently.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:37pm On Nov 25, 2019
Leyqute:


That is a Chelsea bot. Pay it no attention.

Drop your combined 11 oga
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 10:39pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


Are we discussing current form or what the player is before?

Those players that u are rubbisshingnow, where they not signed based on current form??

Now u know Maguire and Soyuncu play the same position, do u think a Centre back partnership of Maguire-Evans would do better than one of Maguire-Lindelof?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:41pm On Nov 25, 2019
thorrvik55:


Those players that u are rubbisshingnow, where they not signed based on current form??

Now u know Maguire and Soyuncu play the same position, do u think a Centre back partnership of Maguire-Evans would do better than one of Maguire-Lindelof?

Drop your 11 or are u scared of dropping it?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 10:44pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


Drop your 11 or are u scared of dropping it?

After u answer this question:


Now u know Maguire and Soyuncu play the same position, do u think a Centre back partnership of Maguire-Evans would do better than one of Maguire-Lindelof?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by paafin(m): 10:44pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
This combined 11 go expose so many things.
It will only expose United lack of team depth. Meanwhile my combined team is this:
De Gea

WBS Soyunco Maguire Chiwell

Ndidi

Maddison Pogba

James Vardy Rashford

My bench will consist of Perez, Martial, Evans, Mctom, Greenwood, Fred.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 10:46pm On Nov 25, 2019
ChristineC:
[s] fans are much in a hurry to see some things immediately, it doesn't work that way.
the obvious plan is to build from the back and I believe it is strong enough. it may not be very evident right now because football is a collective function. the midfield is still in shambles, so is the center of attack. the chaos in these central areas will make it almost impossible for the defense to have breathing space most of the games.

people calling for sack just want the club to continue moving in circles.
OGS has been appointed, there's need to let him hold the fort and we see if he's making progress. everybody knows he's a rookie there's little use reciting it every matchday like it's the national pledge, everybody knows we are going to sail in murky waters; let's see where we dock. it's not cast in stone that Ole must be finisher but he's bringing together a good group of young players with very positive potential.

for the upcoming winter and summer transfer windows, I expect him to bring in two central midfielders (Matic will leave and Mata seem destined for a management role) and a center forward at least; a center forward that occupies center backs with good hold up play, adept playing with his back to goal and strong in the air. Martial, and I'm a big fan of the man, is just not a serious human being: or maybe he is but he'd never be that kind of CF. [/s]
So you're Ole-in, okay na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:47pm On Nov 25, 2019
thorrvik55:


After u answer this question:


If you don't want to drop urs. Then no need to answer your question
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 10:48pm On Nov 25, 2019
paafin:

It will only expose United lack of team depth. Meanwhile my combined team is this:
De Gea

WBS Soyunco Maguire Chiwell

Ndidi

Maddison Pogba

James Vardy Rashford

My bench will consist of Perez, Martial, Evans, Mctom, Greenwood, Fred.
na dis soyuncu wey maguire the bench last season na en de burst ma head.

why una de sideline johnny evans?

and according to some Leicester fans, Evans was their best CB last season.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 10:49pm On Nov 25, 2019
patrickmuf:
Wow!!! Leicester City has a better team than us? Player for player or it's the good work of Rodgers at play?

I really still don't understand this "one team is better than the other" it really doesn't make sense to me.

What if on paper everybody knows that a team A is better than team B but team B players are ready yo work and run for 90mins doing the simple effective things that can get a result while team A because they feel are better are playing big man football on the pitch.

If team B is getting results then they are better than team A. Abi no be so.

The table doesn't lie ooo. At the end of the season positions will show how good you are. You can't play 38 games, end up in 10th position and be claiming that your squad was better than the team that was 9th or 5th.

Right now Leicester is better than Man u. Simple.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 10:49pm On Nov 25, 2019
Obere4u:


If you don't want to drop urs. Then no need to answer your question

Lol. It's a simple yes or no question..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 10:50pm On Nov 25, 2019
thorrvik55:


Lol. It's a simple yes or no question..

What I replied was drop your combined 11.
If you don't like what I dropped, ur drop urs

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